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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Pandora on May 09, 2011, 11:27:07 PM

Title: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Pandora on May 09, 2011, 11:27:07 PM
On one hand we have this: (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/yemeni-man-tries-to-rush-cockpit-on-aa-flight-to-san-francisco/)

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Crew members and passengers wrestled a 28-year-old man to the cabin floor after he began pounding on the cockpit as an American Airlines flight approached San Francisco, the third security incident in a day on U.S. planes, authorities said Monday.

The man was yelling unintelligibly as he brushed past a flight attendant about 10 minutes before American Airlines Flight 1561 was due at San Francisco International Airport Sunday night, Sgt. Michael Rodriguez of the San Francisco police said.

Turns out the "unintelligible yelling" was "Allahu Akbar".  The piece reports the "man" was taken away on a stretcher.  Because nothing screams insanity, as opposed to a war-cry, like islam, right?

And, on the other hand, we have this: (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/it-begins-tsa-now-checking-babys-butts/)

(http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tsa-poop-check.jpg)

Make all the dirty/poopy diaper jokes you like.  This is a sign people are willing to submit to almost anything.

I will not submit.
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 09, 2011, 11:38:57 PM
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I'M SICK OF IT
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Sectionhand on May 10, 2011, 04:54:49 AM
Looks like a  "Government Changing Station" . With the arbitrary promulgation and enforcement of these new laws T.S.A.  should stand for "Tough Sh*t , America !"
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Libertas on May 10, 2011, 07:41:01 AM
You're never too young to be groped by the TSA!

Now there's a campaign slogan...

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 10, 2011, 09:29:51 AM

The conditioning continues.

Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Libertas on May 10, 2011, 09:47:16 AM

The conditioning oppression continues.



FIFY!
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 10, 2011, 10:09:44 AM
Jihadi? What Jihadi? I guess screaming "Allahu Akbar" isn't relevant to the story.

Radical Yemeni Jihadi Storms Cockpit of American Airlines Flight Bound for San Francisco, Media Yawns. (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/10/man-storms-cockpit-in-flight-to-san-francisco/)
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Dan on May 10, 2011, 10:22:08 AM
madness
sheer madness
how long can they continue to deny islam is at war w/ us?
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 10, 2011, 10:28:13 AM
madness
sheer madness
how long can they continue to deny islam is at war w/ us?

It's worse than denial. It's an active effort to misinform the American people. They know Islam is at war with us, but they don't want the American people to turn against Islam, so they lie.
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 10, 2011, 10:29:07 AM
There were four incidents last week of either flights diverted or as in Florida, pilots refusing to fly with imams aboard.  It's some kind of hysteria.\

Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Dan on May 10, 2011, 10:30:53 AM
is there such a thing as propaganda-through-silence?
this is complicity and can be seen as nothing short of subversive
domestic enemies abound
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Pandora on May 10, 2011, 10:33:43 AM
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1413.msg15811/topicseen.html#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1413.msg15811/topicseen.html#new)
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 10, 2011, 10:35:46 AM

It may be oppression to you but actually they are simply establishing the new normal. 
What was considered liberty twenty years ago will be incompressible to that baby as an adult.

Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 10, 2011, 10:35:49 AM
@ the link:

[blockquote]Within moments Sunday, a flight attendant tackled Rageh Almurisi. Authorities do not yet have a motive...

...Federal agents are investigating Almurisi’s background. He was carrying a Yemeni passport and a California identification card, authorities said.[/blockquote]

How stupid do they think we are? Do they really believe that if they just utter the phrase "Authorities do not yet have a motive" that we'll all just go, "OK, nothing to see here..."?
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 10, 2011, 10:37:23 AM
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1413.msg15811/topicseen.html#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1413.msg15811/topicseen.html#new)

Oopsie - solly. I thought that thread was about the baby, not the Jihadi.

Thread merge underway....
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 10, 2011, 10:45:58 AM

well, that's not confusing\

Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Pandora on May 10, 2011, 10:50:27 AM
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1413.msg15811/topicseen.html#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1413.msg15811/topicseen.html#new)

Oopsie - solly. I thought that thread was about the baby, not the Jihadi.

Thread merge underway....

Better titling on my part would've helped.
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Libertas on May 10, 2011, 11:32:58 AM
It's not like these clowns scream that for any old reason...like say as they run to the head grabbing their privates...they scream it when they are about to do something dangerous...dangerous to us specifically...and this jihadi jackass was screaming it as he charges the cockpit...

Motive?

 ::cussing:: morons!
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Glock32 on May 10, 2011, 12:43:27 PM
"You voluntarily surrender your 4th Amendment rights as a condition of participating in air travel"

That's the general argument. It's an incredibly insidious, dangerous rationale that is becoming widespread. Is there any activity that can't be subjected to arbitrary conditions in this manner?
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Libertas on May 10, 2011, 12:51:15 PM
Ask a pointed question like that of a Ruling Class schmuck and you'll get a bunch of bureaucratic gobbledygook for an answer!

An honest answer would be "increasingly, no"!

My answer?  I'll point to Dan's avatar!

 ::rockets::
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Pandora on May 10, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
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Is there any activity that can't be subjected to arbitrary conditions in this manner?

No.

The streets are "public", so merely stepping out of one's house would trigger a voluntary surrender of rights should this bullsht continue.  Forget driving; the right to travel freely has already been commandeered and twisted into a privilege subject to regulation and checkpoints.
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 10, 2011, 01:36:12 PM

But see, it just takes discipline. If one plans his schedule correctly he may hook the lead from his electric car to the trolley cable and travel without concern of exhausting his battery reserves.  There is absolutely no restriction to travel, one simply must be disciplined with his planning.

Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Pandora on May 10, 2011, 01:40:33 PM
This was included in the Chicago Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/5266378-417/passengers-subdue-man-charging-cockpit-on-flight-from-chicago.html) write-up of the story:

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It was the third disturbance of the day in U.S. airspace.

During the afternoon, a Continental Airlines flight from Houston to Chicago diverted in St. Louis after a 34-year-old man from Illinois tried to open a plane door during the flight, officials said.

Continental spokeswoman Julie King said Flight No. 546 landed around 1:30 p.m. and was grounded about an hour before resuming it journey.

FBI and airport police questioned the passenger. No charges have been filed.

Shortly before that, a Delta Air Lines flight from Detroit to San Diego was landed instead in Albuquerque, N.M., because of a security scare but authorities found “no suspicious devices” on the plane, an FBI spokesman said.

Agency spokesman Frank Fisher declined to clarify the nature of the “potential security threat” that caused Flight 1706 to land in New Mexico. He said agents searched the plane and interviewed the crew and 107 passengers before clearing the aircraft to fly again.

Albuquerque International Sunport spokesman Daniel Jiron also declined to say what the potential threat was. No one was arrested.

The Fox News piece (linked by Hotair to Malkin's link) mentioned it, but excluded some of the info.
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 10, 2011, 01:45:58 PM
I want to know more about the Continental and Delta flights. Then there was the case a few days ago of a pilot returning to the jetway and forcing a 'Slim to disembark. I want to know more about that too.

It would seem to me that we've possibly undergone a flurry of Muslim terrorist attempts, and nobody wants to talk about it.
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Libertas on May 10, 2011, 01:51:41 PM
Keeping a tight lid on it serves two purposes for proglodytes -

1 - Bad form to disparage such a noble and peaceful group of people. (gag!)

2 - Makes deniability easier to sell if something bad happens/and allows Obamakov more time to manufacture a victory if something bad happens.

Either way it's a win-win for the bad buys and the rest of us get bent over again!
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: hemm on May 10, 2011, 02:54:09 PM
totus ain't figured a way to benefit politically from it, and that includes the complicit lsm pretzleizing it for him as they continue to keep their firm lip to his ass airtight grip.

Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 10, 2011, 03:11:44 PM
...yeah, I mean, if they were to report every instance of 'Slims trying to blow sh*t up, people might get the false impression that 'Slims are prone to wanna blow sh*t up.
 ::gaah::
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Pandora on May 10, 2011, 03:21:50 PM
Contrast these reports with the photo of the infant being "inspected".

Tell me there's anything normal going on in this country these days except in rare pockets of sanity.
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 10, 2011, 03:24:14 PM

Clearly a case of racism on the part of the pilots.

Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 10, 2011, 04:10:21 PM

http://www.wfae.org/wfae/1_87_316.cfm?action=display&id=7297

 At least three Muslim clergymen were denied access to flights bound for Charlotte over the weekend. ...The airlines are saying little about why the men were not allowed to fly.

Imam Al-Amin Abdul Latif ... American Airlines refused to let him on the plane.

…”What’s happening here is an issue of lack of education and ignorance,” says Safaa Zarzour, Secretary General of the nonprofit Islamic Society of North America.
...
American Airlines would not explain the decision to bar Latif, but only said in a statement there was "no ill intent on the part of any of (its) employees."
...
Delta Airlines apologized for the inconvenience in a statement and called the incident "extremely rare," but refused to answer questions about the pilot's actions.

Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 11, 2011, 12:05:54 AM
"You voluntarily surrender your 4th Amendment rights as a condition of participating in air travel"

That's the general argument. It's an incredibly insidious, dangerous rationale that is becoming widespread. Is there any activity that can't be subjected to arbitrary conditions in this manner?

No there isn't.  The same for taxes--anything can now be taxed.

Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Sectionhand on May 11, 2011, 03:30:12 AM
You're never too young to be groped by the TSA!

Now there's a campaign slogan...

 ::facepalm::

Have any airlines begun to offer  "Grope Rates" ?
Title: Re: TSA ... follies?
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2011, 07:25:05 AM
You're never too young to be groped by the TSA!

Now there's a campaign slogan...

 ::facepalm::

Have any airlines begun to offer  "Grope Rates" ?

 ::rimshot::