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Topics => World/Foreign Affairs => Topic started by: Libertas on May 20, 2016, 08:34:40 AM
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Rodrigo Duterte won the presidential election.
He is a lawyer, served as a prosecutor and then mayor and considered quite competent, but very unorthodox and not bothered with breaking laws to do what his constituents want. This was made clear during the 22 years he was mayor of Davao City (population 1.5 million) in the southeast. This part of the south is largely Christian, most of the Moslems are in the southwest. Until Duarte got elected in the 1990s Davao City was an economic mess and had one of the highest crime rates in the country. The local government was corrupt and Duarte said he would fix it. He did, but not by using methods anyone expected. His most alarming tactic was to approve the use of death squads to murder criminals caught in the act. In the past bribes and a well-connected lawyer could get the worst criminals set free. No more. The use of death squads by powerful men was not unusual in the Philippines, especially in the south. So Duarte was able to get away with it. Soon people realized that he maintained control of the death squads and the crime rate plunged after about a thousand accused criminals were murdered. Duarte also cracked down on corruption in general and hired competent economic and business advisors to create an economic boom. Duarte describes himself as a socialist but not anti-business.
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/phillip/articles/20160514.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/phillip/articles/20160514.aspx)
Will be interesting to see how he gets along with the US, our military, neighbors...China...
Could be a wild ride...
Not sure I would turn my back on this guy...or lose sight of him...
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When the mainstream isn't even interested in (insert issue here) people will start looking outside of the mainstream. People are sick of corruption in government and petty crime on the streets, as well as lack of progress on infrastructure improvements.
He has some good issues no one else ran on, such as ixnaying the foreign ownership rules that keep so many companies, especially retail, out of the Philippines. Of course, that rule helps local billionaires with their locks on retail, but everyone else is for.
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He has some angel and demon...just watch out for the latter.
In that part of the world though...as long as you don't step on the wrong shoes or pee where you shouldn't all will be well for the average Jose...
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Media groups expressed outrage Wednesday at Philippine president-elect Rodrigo Duterte's endorsement of killing corrupt journalists, warning his comments could incite more murders in a nation already one of the world's most dangerous for reporters.
Duterte, who won last month's elections in a landslide after pledging to kill tens of thousands of criminals, told reporters on Tuesday there was justification for killing journalists who took bribes or engaged in other corrupt activities.
"Just because you're a journalist you are not exempted from assassination, if you're a son of a bitch," Duterte said when asked how he would address the problem of media killings in the Philippines after a reporter was shot dead in Manila last week.
The National Union of Journalists of the Philippines described the comments as "appalling". It conceded there were corruption problems in the industry but said these did not justify murdering reporters.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-duterte-endorses-killing-corrupt-journalists-155911848.html?ref=gs (https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-duterte-endorses-killing-corrupt-journalists-155911848.html?ref=gs)
Something the Presstitutes here fail to realize...it can always get worse...the more corrupt, biased and unfair you become does not make you more safe...it makes it even more likely you will piss off even more people...until people take action themselves.
Part of me hopes our a-holes keep up their shenannigans...but I don't think I have to wish too hard...
Tick/tock...click/bang! ;)
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Serendipitously, Trump called a couple of Presstitutes sleazes, to their faces, on national tv. Gotta love it. Britt Hume (don't know what happened to that guy; he seems to be seguing more Liberal/Establishment every day) went ballistic over it, citing inappropriate Presidential-candidate behavior never heretofore witnessed.
::popcorn::
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That guy started slipping during W's years...
Maybe the death of his boy?
I dunno, he got all touchy/weepy about then...
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Now that I'm bugged out, at ground zero, and am sleeping reasonable hours (I consider 7PM to 2AM a reasonable sleep which is why I'm here at 3:15AM reading and typing :supercool: ) Duterte really is a less polished Trump and really does appeal to the same kind of people. The productive. This is no longer a conservative/libertarian vs leftist/progressive world. It really is a doer vs taker world. As Trump draws both union labor and business owner support (as opposed to welfare/union government/rent seekers of Obama's half of America) Duterte really does unite the doers of the Philippines. My brother in law, the successful business man as well as the lowest of trike drivers are Duterte supporters, vs protected business/government types who see their employment as a means to graft and...well, there are no welfare recipients here, you work or starve.
Interesting time we're in.
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Now that I'm bugged out, at ground zero, and am sleeping reasonable hours (I consider 7PM to 2AM a reasonable sleep which is why I'm here at 3:15AM reading and typing :supercool: ) Duterte really is a less polished Trump and really does appeal to the same kind of people. The productive. This is no longer a conservative/libertarian vs leftist/progressive world. It really is a doer vs taker world. As Trump draws both union labor and business owner support (as opposed to welfare/union government/rent seekers of Obama's half of America) Duterte really does unite the doers of the Philippines. My brother in law, the successful business man as well as the lowest of trike drivers are Duterte supporters, vs protected business/government types who see their employment as a means to graft and...well, there are no welfare recipients here, you work or starve.
Interesting time we're in.
Bingo. That's my feeling as well. The political landscape is changing. In addition to the Maker vs. Taker dynamic, there's also a re-emergent Nationalism vs. the Internationalism/Globalism of the legacy power structure.
The legacy power structure, which oddly enough shows seamless transition between the nominal Right and the nominal Left, is lashing out at this new threat by doubling down on its usual tactics, especially the tactic of declaring this or that goal of theirs to be inevitable and unavoidable. People are damn sick of being told there is no alternative to the world they're creating, that mass immigration is simply the way it's going to be now, that trade agreements are simply the way it's going to be now, that supranational entities like the EU are simply the way it's going to be now.
Nothing is set in stone. Their ecstatic predictions of the extinction of white people can be reversed. People aren't obliged to follow their script. They might be chastened by a glimpse of that future, and decide against it.
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Now that I'm bugged out, at ground zero, and am sleeping reasonable hours (I consider 7PM to 2AM a reasonable sleep which is why I'm here at 3:15AM reading and typing :supercool: ) Duterte really is a less polished Trump and really does appeal to the same kind of people. The productive. This is no longer a conservative/libertarian vs leftist/progressive world. It really is a doer vs taker world. As Trump draws both union labor and business owner support (as opposed to welfare/union government/rent seekers of Obama's half of America) Duterte really does unite the doers of the Philippines. My brother in law, the successful business man as well as the lowest of trike drivers are Duterte supporters, vs protected business/government types who see their employment as a means to graft and...well, there are no welfare recipients here, you work or starve.
Interesting time we're in.
I hope your bug-out and settling in went well. As for the sleeping, it seems to become an issue for many as they get older, so a seven-hour stretch seems good.
As for your Duterte-Trump comparison, I'm thinking you're on the money as well.
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The sleeping thing comes from turning night into day. You'd think you can sleep if you're awake the whole trip, but if your body is still saying it's daytime, no matter the local clock, you can't sleep. It never gets easier for me. It does take a few days to align the body with the clock.
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I was always "sleep anywhere - any time" kinda person. Still am. My dad once took a picture of me sleeping on the engine-box cover of the cabin-cruiser he build - while underway. I was the only one who could sleep anywhere!
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I could sleep anywhere anytime and through any clamor...when I was young...after turning 30 that started to fade...now, if I get 5-6 hours I consider myself fortunate.
BIL runs a trike eh? Man, it has been a long time since I rode one of those, or a Jeepny.
And I think the Maker/Taker and Nationalist/Globalist thing is definitely emergent and if properly guided could become a positive vehicle to unshackle the nominally free and elevate them to actual freedom. If the Takers and Ruling Elite are not ended all else is moot and bloody hell will certainly ensue. It may ensue anyway because of what the Statists have already baked-in to systems...but it will be easier to overthrow the masters now than give them any more time to reel in slack and entrench further.
Duterte and Trump are sledgehammers, and that is what we need if we are to begin dismantling what the thieving masters and takers have erected. And do not forget that the Takers are not just the rabble in the FSA ranks...those crony capitalists that sold out to the Ruling Class are Taker's too. It is the "corrupt" Duterte is targeting, break the cronies and their political support and the FSA will see their troughs empty.
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BIL is a middle man in motorcycle parts. He gets the stuff in metro Manila that needs to get to the far flung islands and makes sure they get there. He does very well with that. I was just saying that from the poorest of worker to the successful business man, they all like Duterte. The real doers. Not the corrupt looking for an angle to get graft.
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Aye.
And hey, this guy's press conferences are not going to be boring, check this out!
http://iotwreport.com/faggy-voice-in-a-proh-pri-aaaaate/ (http://iotwreport.com/faggy-voice-in-a-proh-pri-aaaaate/)
Yeah...she is cute.
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Note that she really doesn't have a problem with that. She acts like it was the compliment it was intended to be. Totally different culture, here. Which is despite the issues, people are noticeably happier here.
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Try pulling that stunt on a presstitute here...the entire PressCorpse, every moonbat politician and boot-licking Pubbie and Progs and E-GOP lackeys across the nation would be baying for blood.
It's another reason why I hope Trump continues to bait them and play them for the fools they are.
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Heh! We wish!
http://www.weaselzippers.us/275401-philippine-president-elect-urges-public-to-kill-drug-dealers/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/275401-philippine-president-elect-urges-public-to-kill-drug-dealers/)
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It will be interesting to see what happens to the petty gangs, the ones that steal phones and try to resell, things like that.
I have a one word response to a street seller holding out a phone, whispering Samsung Galaxy S7/Iphone.
Duterte. ::rockets::
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Is he issuing hunting permits? No license needed? Just be sure of the proper legal forms to follow. :D
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Thugs put bounty on Duterte...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3632805/Gang-lords-raise-300-000-bounty-assassinates-new-Philippines-president-Duterte-offered-reward-killed-drug-dealer.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3632805/Gang-lords-raise-300-000-bounty-assassinates-new-Philippines-president-Duterte-offered-reward-killed-drug-dealer.html)
$5m, 46:1 exchange rate...
$108k?
::hysterical::
Thugs not only stupid...they're cheap!
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That'll get him to back down.
Not.
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As seen on the BIL's SUV...
(https://scontent.fmnl4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13412222_1034397573262299_1501792269194906753_o.jpg)
Now more than ever.
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It's been so long...I cannot remember...at least I don't recall people can...can citizens own guns there?
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I don't know the exact rules but as many as you see openly protecting malls and business', I assume yes. Not a lot of armed robberies of banks when the guards are packing sawed off shotguns.
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Most of us think the shooting will start here one day......they Are just ahead of the curve. We only make movies about it......the purge.
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Seen in my neighborhood mall, the size of Mall of America.
He 70. "She" 20. "She", however, has at least 6" on him, and giving off a definite Ann Coulter vibe, if ya know what I mean. Every niece and nephew in attendance, over the age of 10, all went together, "LADYBOY!"
::hysterical::
I hope the surprise doesn't give the elderly gent a heart attack.
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Seen in my neighborhood mall, the size of Mall of America.
He 70. "She" 20. "She", however, has at least 6" on him, and giving off a definite Ann Coulter vibe, if ya know what I mean. Every niece and nephew in attendance, over the age of 10, all went together, "LADYBOY!"
::hysterical::
I hope the surprise doesn't give the elderly gent a heart attack.
Benny Boy...well, gramps will find out soon enough... ::hysterical::
I hope he isn't dropping Viagra...he'll keel over for sure!
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I don't know the exact rules but as many as you see openly protecting malls and business', I assume yes. Not a lot of armed robberies of banks when the guards are packing sawed off shotguns.
I am trying to remember...been a long time for me and a lot of those brain cells were probably flushed decades ago...but...I think the cities back then were more regulated than rural areas...pretty sure farmers were allowed shotguns and small handguns for fending off thieves or butchering the family meal...I'm sure those in the cities with a need and the right connections and payments can get permission for whatever though...
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Heh, this is hilarious!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/10/that-time-the-philippine-president-called-the-u-s-envoy-the-homosexual-offspring-of-a-sex-worker/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/10/that-time-the-philippine-president-called-the-u-s-envoy-the-homosexual-offspring-of-a-sex-worker/)
"As you know, I’m fighting with [U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry’s] ambassador. His gay ambassador, the son of a whore. He pissed me off,” Duterte said.
::hysterical::
Now Washington has reportedly summoned Manila's charge d’affaires in Washington to complain, in what must have been a rather awkward meeting.
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Idiot, it's not awkward at all...go in there and tell that Obama ass-kissing fool freedom of speech is freedom of speech, bitch!
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Want to really make our bakla (my Tagalog word of the day to learn) ambassador wet his onsies? Try taking a picture of his embassy, from the sidewalk along the street. In a rare bit of showing my waning patriotism I thought to take a picture of the "United States Embassy" sign. You've never seen a rent a cop scramble faster, than the one that came running towards the fence telling me to put down my phone.
https://www.google.com/maps/@14.5763138,120.9792114,3a,19.3y,248.24h,84.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szuHLq9JF3AqfL7xgywb43Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@14.5763138,120.9792114,3a,19.3y,248.24h,84.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szuHLq9JF3AqfL7xgywb43Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Psst. Don't tell him about Google Street View.
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Heh, good word. ::thumbsup::
Maybe throw "moro" in front of that too. ;)
Nice building...hope there is a patio bar on the bay side for the hardworking Amerikano's to relax after a long hard day of apologizing for whatever O'Bongo tells them to apologize for...
::mooning::
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There probably is. From my AirBnB place I had for the first 2 months here I could look down on the whole compound. Quite the bit of prime bay space.
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Wonder if the Russian compound is nearby? Could be some interesting banter if stroke-out loony Hillary starts a war with Vlad.
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It's in Makati, which is basically the Wall Street of the Philippines.
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Oh sure...old Commies like being near OPM! ::hysterical::
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Oh sure...old Commies like being near OPM! ::hysterical::
Old habits die hard, don't ya know.
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Oh sure...old Commies like being near OPM! ::hysterical::
Old habits die hard, don't ya know.
Yeah...just look at the DemoProg's!
I know...I don't like looking at them either! ::laserkill::
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"Maybe we'll just have to decide to separate from the United Nations. If you're that rude, son of a bitch, we'll just leave you," Duterte told reporters in Davao, quoted by Bloomberg.
“I don't give a sh*t about them,” he added. “They are the ones interfering. You do not just go out and give a sh*tting statement against a country.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-21/i-dont-give-sh*t-about-them-furious-philippines-president-threatens-quit-stupid-unit (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-21/i-dont-give-sh*t-about-them-furious-philippines-president-threatens-quit-stupid-unit)
Heh! Leave the UN, now that's an idea that I think could catch fire fast in some quarters! ::whoohoo::
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Some here say, "but they just ruled for us in the Spratlys," in which those who know better reply, "UN rulings aren't worth as much as toilet paper."
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I like it. "The UN, less useful than toilet paper!" So true.
I sure would like to see us boot those clowns off our soil...but there will have to be a lot more bootin' goin' on before that can happen...
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Heh!
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte called Barack Obama a "son of a whore" on Monday as he vowed not to be lectured by the US leader on human rights when they meet in Laos.
The acid-tongued Duterte bristled at warnings he would face questioning by the US president over a war against drugs in the Philippines that has claimed more than 2,400 lives in just over two months.
"You must be respectful. Do not just throw away questions and statements. Son of a whore, I will curse you in that forum," Duterte told a news conference shortly before flying to Laos to attend a summit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3774386/Philippines-Duterte-calls-Barack-Obama-son-whore.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3774386/Philippines-Duterte-calls-Barack-Obama-son-whore.html)
Man, I hope there is some good video of this meeting! ::whoohoo::
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Ødungo just cancelled their meeting....
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::hysterical::
What a wuss!
I guess he took too much a battering from Putin...Rodrigo would have eaten him alive!
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Duterte obviously isn't impressed by a beta poser.
::curtsy4::
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"Instead of helping us, the first to criticize is this State Department, so you can go to hell, Mr. Obama, you can go to hell," Duterte said. Then addressing the EU, he said: "Better choose purgatory, hell is filled up."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-04/philippines-president-tells-obama-you-can-go-hell-i-will-buy-weapons-russia (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-04/philippines-president-tells-obama-you-can-go-hell-i-will-buy-weapons-russia)
Heh.
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His Hitler comment pretty much had no defenders. Godwin's Law is something you get the other side to impose, you don't impose it on yourself! :o
The guy isn't a moron. He sees what America has done to various countries over the past 20 years or so. He knows an America that worries more about lactation stations for its troops, and is now promoting by skin color and what you stick your richard into is not going to defend the Philippines from anything. It's an ugly world out there and more will be picking the least ugly option...kind of like the American election.
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Yeah...he steps in it on occasion, but he's been more right than wrong. 1,000 times better than the SCoaMF or Hitlery, that's for dang sure!
I'm kinda in more of a SMOD mood now though...a sure-fire way to end the misery.
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And this is why you have to pass for native, but I am sure ToddF has a perspective to share :)
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/americans-philippines-jittery-duterte-rails-against-united-states-031557543.html
The talk is of Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte's tensions with Washington and his courting of China, which is worrying the bar's mostly American clients who have settled in the vicinity of the huge Subic Bay base, a former U.S. navy installation.
"The biggest fear is that one day he's going to wake up and say 'everybody from the U.S., get out of town' and we'd have to leave our loved ones behind," said Jack Walker, a retired Marine sergeant who has lived in Olongapo, the town around the base, for five years.
Duterte would be a fool to do that of course, but the danger of inciting passions against the "other" is that those passion might be acted upon, or calls will start for them to be acted upon and get all of those dirty F'ing ugly Americans out of the country. The natural response to forced globalism is nationalism and tribalism, and if you aren't part of the local tribe that sucks. Of course, the greenback still has value, and as long as it does, I don't see any serious attempts to purge those with it ( unless they can keep those funds, but I suspect may expats still use other banking systems ) When the dollar goes, there won't be anything holding them back. Papers Please.
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Duterte has a long history of not liking the American government interfering in local affairs. This is the perfect example of a journalist making up a narrative and finding someone to confirm it.
Why didn't they interview Americans in Davao, who have lived under Duterte for decades? Why just a sexpat or two in a girly bar, a thousand miles away?
http://liveinthephilippines.com/content/get-out-americans/ (http://liveinthephilippines.com/content/get-out-americans/)
I trust this guy more than a couple of journotards looking to confirm a narrative. Plus, Duterte knows a large chunk of the Filipino GDP comes from overseas workers. He's not going to screw that up. He just wants the military out. He isn't the first to do such.
I'm only here through the "winter" before I move on. There I will watch over the longer term.
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Duterte has a long history of not liking the American government interfering in local affairs. This is the perfect example of a journalist making up a narrative and finding someone to confirm it.
Why didn't they interview Americans in Davao, who have lived under Duterte for decades? Why just a sexpat or two in a girly bar, a thousand miles away?
http://liveinthephilippines.com/content/get-out-americans/ (http://liveinthephilippines.com/content/get-out-americans/)
I trust this guy more than a couple of journotards looking to confirm a narrative. Plus, Duterte knows a large chunk of the Filipino GDP comes from overseas workers. He's not going to screw that up. He just wants the military out. He isn't the first to do such.
I'm only here through the "winter" before I move on. There I will watch over the longer term.
Oh, didn't realize your situation was temporary. I had gotten the idea you had decided to settle there for the long term.
The problem isn't so much what Duterte said, its that its open to interpretation. This article you posted says Davao reporter are better at correctly understanding what he says, and I can take that as true at face value. But what about those natives already harboring envy or resentment against foreigners? Will they also get Davao interpreters? Anti-foreigner/Nationalistic sentiment can take on a mind of its own regardless of its leaders or how its incited - and the Philippines isn't so western as to actually think such sentiments are racist or immoral. They are the status quo.
As long as Dollar is King, I don't see him dislodging anyone forecfully - even the military. But that doesn't mean that anti-American sentiment won't kill business deals, and if Duterte leads a pivot to China, then you can bet there will be people willing to follow. I don't blame them if they do - given China's geographic per-eminence and America's dwindling power and prestige , tightening of relationships with China is probably prudent, but one can also see how that circumstance will increase Anti-American sentiment. Then, when the dollar isn't worth squat, and all of those expats living on the dollar savings they had , can no longer do so.. ...all while massive numbers of American's flee America's conflicts and collapse to popular ex-pat locations like the Philippines - how will sentiment sour even more then?
This in itself is nothing. But it is also , I believe, a harbinger of larger movements.
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Right now the dollar is worth more here, thanks to his spooking markets and business people.
Again, he's said nothing anti-American. He's said plenty about people elsewhere sticking their noses into Filipino business. Euros and Americans alike. Frankly, I think it's about time people start standing up for themselves, against the patronizing attitude of a failing America and Europe. This is just the beginning of that. And as you hint at, you have to cover all your bases in a post Obama world. That includes China and Russia. When all sides are ugly, you try to play the middle.
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I think he knows a difference between American's living there and contributing to PI economy and not messing with their culture vs political deadheads and jurnotards on safari and corporatist goons raping and pillaging the nation with impunity. If he kicked the scum out who's to blame him?
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http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/826739/filipinos-trust-us-more-than-china-says-survey (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/826739/filipinos-trust-us-more-than-china-says-survey)
Eyeballing the graphs, net trust in China (the country shipping all the meth/Shabu to the Philippines) -30, America, +70.
That's why I always take the hysteria of AFP or the AP at face value.
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I think what angst there is at America is largely centered on the moronic O'Bongo Regime as much as anything and with China it is driven by fears most have in the region of an aggressive regime contesting their islands and manufacturing news ones and acting like punks in others areas as Todd mentioned.
I would think that sentiment is similar in Taiwan and Japan...same in South Korea except there it is weighted more to the North than China but China still an influence regardless.
I don't know about Singapore or Malaysia, they seem pretty neutral in general, the Switzerland's of Asia...the Thai's and Indian's are pals with China and figure prominently in their String Of Pearls strategy...Vietnam is a wildcard...would be nice to at least keep them neutral...they and China have never been overly cozy.
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There is the small group that hates America (communists and muslim trash) and they were out yesterday.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/826954/violent-dispersal-of-us-embassy-protesters-ordered-by-mpd-exec-groups (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/826954/violent-dispersal-of-us-embassy-protesters-ordered-by-mpd-exec-groups)
All international coverage refers to "workers, students, and tribes people." I was watching TV news of this last night and caught the word "moro" several time. For one thing, "workers" don't have time to protest, here. They're too busy working. Students is just code for communists and sure enough, "tribes people" refers to Muslims. So yes, 1,000 Muslims and Communists protested in front of the embassy, shutting down Roxas Blvd. (the main street along the bay.) Unlike the Twin Cities, cops went ahead and started to clear the road.
THIS reinforces to me to always have a little situational awareness. Not that I worry too much about getting the Reginald Denny treatment, as long as I wasn't an asshole, and told them to their face what I really thought about Muslims and Communists. ::devil::
Especially as this is my neighborhood, and I do take a lot of walks in that direction, as Luneta Park and Intramuros is in that direction.
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Nobody likes muzzies and commies...except muzzies and communists...and proglodyte trash, so... ::mooning::
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Interesting.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-20/caught-tape-filipino-police-run-over-anti-american-protesters-they-storm-us-embassy (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-20/caught-tape-filipino-police-run-over-anti-american-protesters-they-storm-us-embassy)
China pivot? Yeah, I doubt that...they want to stay independent, not look for a new lord to serve. This China crap is commie wet dream BS.
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I wish it was a wet dream. Looks like Duterte is going Full Retard on China and Russia. The Taiwan animators are less than impressed, I'm guessing.
http://us.tomonews.com/duterte-tells-u-s-the-philippines-can-do-it-alone-%E2%80%94-with-china-and-russia-s-help-3184378 (http://us.tomonews.com/duterte-tells-u-s-the-philippines-can-do-it-alone-%E2%80%94-with-china-and-russia-s-help-3184378)
People don't like Presidents lying to them and Duterte lied to everyone about his intentions on China.
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I wish it was a wet dream. Looks like Duterte is going Full Retard on China and Russia. The Taiwan animators are less than impressed, I'm guessing.
http://us.tomonews.com/duterte-tells-u-s-the-philippines-can-do-it-alone-%E2%80%94-with-china-and-russia-s-help-3184378 (http://us.tomonews.com/duterte-tells-u-s-the-philippines-can-do-it-alone-%E2%80%94-with-china-and-russia-s-help-3184378)
People don't like Presidents lying to them and Duterte lied to everyone about his intentions on China.
Bigger movements. We cannot she what pressures and threats are being made outside the view of the cameras. In order for Duterte to play the middle, as you suggested, he has to put on a convincing show. He may not be any more pro-China or Pro-Russian than before when he expressed different sentiments - but the world is changing, and the smaller guys will have to step lightly to avoid being crushed.. I think more and more of the world is figuring out that American weakness is permanent, and that the age of the US throwing its weight around , and both militarily and economically, are coming to a close - no matter who is elected President. Russia is sailing warships through the English channel. China is building military bases just off the coast of Japan. Iran and North Korea are now Nuclear powers. The emperor has no clothes, and the Philippines had better look to make nice with the new warlords.
(http://i61.tinypic.com/23ith03.jpg)
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Lots of smaller countries have also learned that it's less dangerous to be one of America's enemies than one of its allies. We routinely get leaders of our client nations far out on a limb they'd rather not be on, and then leave them hanging. It doesn't go unnoticed.
So Duterte has announced he is severing the Philippines relationship with the USA. Well, I can't exactly blame them on that count, but they are in for a rude surprise if they think getting in bed with China and Russia represents a new expression of sovereignty.
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We'll have to see how this plays out...I still think Duterte's angle here is to piss of the puppetmasters and puppets in America and the idiots and parasites that consist of their support base...and from that perspective I can't blame the guy one bit...I don't see a grand alliance with China or Russia in the works...anything China gives will be a result of giving them what they want - more strategically placed real estate to complete their String of Pearls and an easy market for their slave labor goods...Russia has less to offer than China except the opportunity to pal around with Putin and say bad things about Obama...again, who can blame the guy? I just don't see any long term all-in pivot to China and Russia. And if Clinton is prevented from stealing the election a Trump Administration would no doubt repair a lot of the damage and ill will engendered these past eight years.
We need to see what is in the details of these $13.5B 'deals" (https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-xi-says-hopes-dutertes-visit-fully-improve-041807637.html)...but I find this quote priceless -
In Washington, the U.S. State Department said it was "baffled" by Duterte's comments and would seek an explanation when Daniel Russel, the top U.S. diplomat for East Asian and Pacific Affairs, visits Manila this weekend.
"We are going to be seeking an explanation of exactly what the president meant when he talked about separation from the U.S.," said State Department spokesman John Kirby. "It's not clear to us exactly what that means in all its ramifications."
What's not to understand? Your boss is a dick, he treats everybody like a dick, he is trying to fundamentally transform a nation and a world into a batshyt crazy nest of psychopaths and Duterte just told you to eat shat and die...what don't you understand?
I think we'll see cash for looking the other way in the South China Sea disputes and shared jabs at O'Bongo and little beyond that.
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I just read an article stating Obama told Duterte to settle the South China Sea thing on his own. So Duterte did.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-21/the-philippines-just-blew-up-obama-s-asia-pivot (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-21/the-philippines-just-blew-up-obama-s-asia-pivot)
I read elsewhere there will probably be an agreement to jointly start developing some oil drilling projects off the Philippine coast. THIS is something Obama surely wouldn't have gone along with.
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I just read an article stating Obama told Duterte to settle the South China Sea thing on his own. So Duterte did.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-21/the-philippines-just-blew-up-obama-s-asia-pivot (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-21/the-philippines-just-blew-up-obama-s-asia-pivot)
I read elsewhere there will probably be an agreement to jointly start developing some oil drilling projects off the Philippine coast. THIS is something Obama surely wouldn't have gone along with.
Oh hell no, spewing oil on gaia's sea creatures with impunity (because yeah, spilling sh*t before it hits market is so good for the bottom line dontchyaknow?!)....O'Fvckface would tell, no, lecture Duterte he can't do that. The only thing different here is Duterte didn't wait to hear the obvious dreck out of O'Fvckface before telling him to go screw himself!
::hysterical::
Obama is getting punked by everybody! It could be even worse with that narcaleptic semi-lucid batshyt crazy Hitlery stumbing through 1600 PA Ave!!!
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http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/11/02/1639678/us-stops-arms-sale-philippines (http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/11/02/1639678/us-stops-arms-sale-philippines)
You know. If America really cared to have the Philippines as an equal partner in things, you'd think you'd reign in our little pit yorkie in the form of Ben Cardin.
If Obama really cared.
Up next, Malaysia!
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Meh, putting the Democrat seal of stupid on something works for me...it's not like they can blame anybody else but Obama and assholes like Cardin for driving PI into Chi-Com hands.
If assholes like Cardin really gave a flying fornication about human rights they would pull out of the UN in protest over the biggest muzzie human rights violators being put on the UN Human Rights Commission, detach and divest from every Muslim country on the planet and march themselves into the nearest cult deprogramming psychiatrist!
But we all know not one of those things will ever happen...in any of our lifetimes!
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First, an IED foiled near the US embassy...now muzzies trying to go after El Presidente?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-29/philippine-president-dutertes-advance-motorcade-attacked-muslim-militants (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-29/philippine-president-dutertes-advance-motorcade-attacked-muslim-militants)
I think 45 is going to have some common ground to discuss with Rodrigo. ::thumbsup::
“Maybe we can have a little gunfight here, gunfight there.”
Heh!
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Muslims are a scourge everywhere. The thing is, the dumbass' wouldn't have damaged the embassy, just the people in line outside waiting for their Visa appointments.
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Yeah, the embassy thing did seem to indicate low IQ...not that senior muzzie terror leadership is going to be rocking that scale...but that attempt seemed especially moronic. Going after a motorcade is a little more brash...not sure if there was any inside info as to route/timing...but even if staking out a likely path it seemed a bit of a haphazard production. Probably a good thing these idiots are poorly led.
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The awesome continues.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-speaks-taiwans-president-financial-times-215242627.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-speaks-taiwans-president-financial-times-215242627.html)
Treating Taiwan like a friend. How original. Of course, the rocket surgeons in the J-School disapprove because treating friends like friends angers those who aren't our friends.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-invites-philippines-duterte-white-house-during-animated-161838126.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-invites-philippines-duterte-white-house-during-animated-161838126.html)
Fixing Obama's screwups continues.
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The awesome continues.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-speaks-taiwans-president-financial-times-215242627.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-speaks-taiwans-president-financial-times-215242627.html)
Treating Taiwan like a friend. How original. Of course, the rocket surgeons in the J-School disapprove because treating friends like friends angers those who aren't our friends.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-invites-philippines-duterte-white-house-during-animated-161838126.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-invites-philippines-duterte-white-house-during-animated-161838126.html)
Fixing Obama's screwups continues.
Yeah...I made a similar comment somewhere in here...we haven't seen the D-MC knee-jerk like this since the Soviet Union fell...the Chi-Com's are their new Commie BFF's!
America started getting it stupid on Taiwan once Reagan left office...the Establishment GOP had their man H.W.Bush in and it was back to adopting the Nixon/Kissinger position of not going out of your way to piss the Maoists off. Huge mistake. What we should have done (and could not achieve even under Reagan) was to fully embrace Taiwan, supported openly and loudly their independence and told the PRC if they want to have nicey nicey with us they have to accept an Independent Taiwan.
I never understood this irrational fear of angering the Chinese...it's like treating them like the Democrats treat blacks here...a combination of treats, appeasement and indifference to their actions...in the end all it does is make matters worse and builds up unnatural and artificial dependencies that can only result in complete disaster.
And I have no doubt Trump will get along better with Duterte, there can be some give and take there that benefits both nations, it doesn't have to be imperial America vs poor Philippines or angry Philippines vs indifferent America...and it doesn't mean the Philippines cannot engage with China or Russia if it wants to...the US simply has to treat the Philippines fair like it would any friendly nation...if the focus is on mutual benefit and not seeking advantage there should be no problems of a material nature, period. One seeks advantages from foes and potential foes...friends should be accorded some deference as long as it isn't stupid.