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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Weisshaupt on November 24, 2016, 11:43:47 AM

Title: Pizzagate
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 24, 2016, 11:43:47 AM
Okay,  so most of this originated from 4Chan,  that unregulated hive of scum and villainy where all of the best tricksters and hackers hang out - the people who  commonly comes up the the most hilarious memes, and the best hoaxes.  They are not lazy and they can be very, very clever.   But if even half of what is here is true,  then, well , its very disturbing.

https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/first-blog-post/ (https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/first-blog-post/)

I was able to independently  verify some of the "code slang" but not other parts. CP is used, but its unclear if that translates to Cheese Pizza.   This  isn't a fun internet search, so I admit I didn't try very hard to verify everything.  So this is 4Chan, so every single image could be made up, but at this point I don't think so.

If the images are genuine, then the whole adds up to a distrubing pattern.  Any image taken by itself is "weird" but not enough by itself to really bring you to the final conclusion.. I see enough circumstantial evidence that Comet Pizza (and surrounding joints)  is involved in promoting Pedophilia , and perhaps participating in it. The owner is obviously a fellow traveler, as is Podesta.

So  what do we know

1) We were teased with a Big drop of related information that never came
2) There appear to be deadman  codes from Assange  (http://usuncut.news/2016/10/17/julian-assange-goes-missing-after-releasing-cryptic-deadmans-switch-tweets/) shortly before his internet was cut
3) We really  haven't seen Proof of Life from Assange since that day
4)  AJ and other sites held special events in anticipation of the information drop
5)  Murder/Suicide of suspected leak on day of the drop  (http://alexanderhiggins.com/fbi-agent-behind-hillary-email-leaks-found-dead-murder-suicide/)
6) Nov 5 is Guy Fawkes Day
7) Reddit starts scrubbing "fake news witch hunt" from its site
8) 4Chan moderators start deleting pizzagate related threads. (on 4Chan? Its virtually moderated!)
9) This story has just disappeared-- even from Infowars ( other conspiracy tolerant sites are still running with it - beforeitsnews, dailysheeple etc)

So  reading between the lines:  They are pressing hard on the Fake news angle right now, so if Pizza-gate was entirely a 4chan Hoax, wouldn't one  be highlighting that as an example and leaving it out there for people to see instead of actually deleting the threads? 

Theory: The Clinton's managed to take down Assange. He is dead or in custody.  His deadman codes were used to release the podesta emails in his absence. Wikileaks sites/admins etc  were compromised on or around Nov5th to prevent the drop of the damning Wiener "insurance" emails. The actual leaker and his wife were killed  to prevent them from speaking out.

Now Trump has walked back on promises to prosecute Hillary.  I suspect that a deal was struck on or around Nov 5th, and the powers that be are strong arming Reddit/4Chan etc to try and drop this down the memory hole.  This deal may have involved dialing back the margin of cheat to allow Trump to win in return for promises to not expose this pedophile ring  - which most leading Democrats, including the Clinton's and perhaps Obama , were involved in.

Election night I fulled expected the Clinton camp to file lawsuits in the morning, and that was why Clinton was not giving a concession speech. But they seemed to have opted for paid civil unrest  instead of legal measures to contest the election.  I think that means legal measures were taken off the table in the deal.
Trump may or may not be aware of this deal  - it may be just between the leaders of the "soft coup" talked about by Pieczenik. A second deal may ave been strong amred into place with Trump afterwards, or Trump or even the soft Coup coalition  is just bidding his time on making charges till after Obama can do anything about it.  Or they are withholding that information as insurance, and because they feel that  the country would become even more divided after the release of such information, and they really want to begin a healing process.

</tinfoil hat>
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Glock32 on November 24, 2016, 12:54:04 PM
If something as vile as that has been taking place (and given all their weird proclivities for "spirit cooking" and the like, I would not entirely doubt it) it is hard to imagine someone like Trump being willing to assist in their cover up.  If I had evidence of things like that going on, there is nothing they could threaten me with to prevent going public with it.

I am still willing to give Trump benefit of the doubt with this whole "not going after Hillary" thing, but that will change rapidly if we get more than 60 days into his administration and there are still no efforts to apply justice.
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 24, 2016, 01:25:24 PM
You know me - on several of these conspiracy theory stories I've urged restraint - as unpopular as that may be. This is one that is so contemptible that I don't want it to be true, but in the case of podesta I wouldn't put it past him. He has always tripped to creep~o~meter.

The problem with this CT is that there isn't sufficient there there to hold my interest. I've read through most of the different posts and stand unimpressed.

I will continue to withhold judgement.

Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 24, 2016, 05:01:21 PM
You know me - on several of these conspiracy theory stories I've urged restraint - as unpopular as that may be. This is one that is so contemptible that I don't want it to be true, but in the case of podesta I wouldn't put it past him. He has always tripped to creep~o~meter.

The problem with this CT is that there isn't sufficient there there to hold my interest. I've read through most of the different posts and stand unimpressed.

I will continue to withhold judgement.

I didn't attribute much to this either, until they started trying to stamp it out.. that I think is the best proof there is something there. Plus the anticipation was that there would be something like this to reveal and it never came
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: ToddF on November 24, 2016, 05:46:13 PM
Vox Day was on this a few weeks ago.  To be honest, I don't know what to think, anymore. 
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on November 27, 2016, 01:28:22 PM
OK, so...if any of this is real...and thanks to entrenched interests, cronys, and a useless pack of rats in the media...

Best to nuke it from high orbit...just to be sure.

Right?   ::whatgives::

 ::foilhathelicopter::
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 02, 2016, 11:00:41 PM
This would certainly require an agency like Planned Parenthood @ the ready...& possibly explain the PP affiliation with Girl Scouts of America (as a supplier of potential raw material).
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on December 05, 2016, 08:54:32 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-04/pizzagate-explodes-after-man-arrested-comet-restaurant-shooting (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-04/pizzagate-explodes-after-man-arrested-comet-restaurant-shooting)

Funny...D-MC describing Pizzagate as a fictitious online conspiracy theory while itself continues to run with the fictitious campaign story that Russia is behind the Wikileaks info...which nobody has shown the information released to be false let alone the proof any Russian was behind its release...

Welcome to the bizzaro world of the D-MC...

Can we burn these Goebbels outlets out yet?   ::whatgives::

Yet another example where beefed up anti-defamation laws and expedited justice needs to happen!!!
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Glock32 on December 05, 2016, 01:23:59 PM
I find it suspicious that the MSM have spent the past few weeks drumming up the "Fake News" meme and then, conveniently, someone goes into the center of the #Pizzagate controversy and fires a gun.  It seems tailor made for the FakeNews meme.  "See!  These irresponsible fake news sites are going to get people killed! We have to Do SomethingTM about this!"
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on December 05, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
Just wait for it...
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: richb on December 05, 2016, 09:46:27 PM
Some fake news is more equal then other fake news.....
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: IronDioPriest on December 06, 2016, 09:29:16 AM
And every "news" outlet - even those supposedly on the Right, like Hot Air, preface this shooting story by citing the pizzagate scandal as "discredited" "debunked" and "conspiracy theory".

They are all blowing over the obviously bizarre code language as if it never happened. I think it may honestly be a case of this story being so horrible, people cannot believe it's true.
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 06, 2016, 10:03:15 AM
And every "news" outlet - even those supposedly on the Right, like Hot Air, preface this shooting story by citing the pizzagate scandal as "discredited" "debunked" and "conspiracy theory".

They are all blowing over the obviously bizarre code language as if it never happened. I think it may honestly be a case of this story being so horrible, people cannot believe it's true.

Bingo! We attended a German festival over the weekend (so the stage was set for having fun) & on the way home an opening for this topic came up & I inserted it casually. My explanation was that it seemed highly improbable EXCEPT for the coded words in the emails. I found myself in a state of "Why would they do that at their level?" or "Nah - this is too bizarre" - and I presented it that way so as not to [again] be the sledgehammer wielder of conspiracy theory.

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This will also most likely fall into the "Too bizarre to be believed & brushed aside" category for NOW & then so much time will elapse that it won't be revisited in the future.
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Glock32 on December 06, 2016, 12:48:34 PM
What else were they talking about in that odd coded language?  And why did the code words just so happen to be words known to the FBI as euphemisms used by pedos?
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on December 06, 2016, 01:42:26 PM
Those are discredited questions to ask...because they are too accurate, appropriate, pointed and necessary if one wants to truly ascertain the truth...and the truth is the very last thing a prog wants...so you will not see the Goebbels Acolytes in the D-MC ask them.  And as wide as this gaggle of scum goes they cannot even use one of their favorite tactics - pinning it on some sacrificial sap (preferably one without a little "d" after their name!) because to do so in this case could fling the whole barrel of monkeys wide open and trying to stuff them back in would be impossible and there would be too many to run Clinton-style accidents on.  So, yes...IDP is dead right...all the progs have is demonizing messengers and ignoring facts.

I would look the other way if vigilante committees were formed for the purpose of abducting people using these code words and having them branded in the forehead with "Child Raper!".

Seriously...I would not frown upon such a course of action.
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 06, 2016, 02:38:35 PM
I would look the other way if vigilante committees were formed for the purpose of abducting people using these code words and having them branded in the forehead with "Child Raper!".

Seriously...I would not frown upon such a course of action.

This is where I have to draw the line & disagree with you...vehemently!

I'd go for the branding process to be performed by shoving the iron up their hind quarters, working it all the way up to the forehead & placing the brand on the inside.

Less conspicuous for sure...but providing for a more. memorable. experience.
 ;)
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on December 07, 2016, 06:45:05 AM
I would look the other way if vigilante committees were formed for the purpose of abducting people using these code words and having them branded in the forehead with "Child Raper!".

Seriously...I would not frown upon such a course of action.

This is where I have to draw the line & disagree with you...vehemently!

I'd go for the branding process to be performed by shoving the iron up their hind quarters, working it all the way up to the forehead & placing the brand on the inside.

Less conspicuous for sure...but providing for a more. memorable. experience.
 ;)

Naturally, I begrudge no man their opinion if they think they have a better plan to achieve the same ultimate objective.   :D
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Weisshaupt on December 13, 2016, 09:50:12 PM
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=59282 (http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=59282)

So Milo declined to talk about Pizzagate again tonight in Wisconsin. What couldpossible shut Milo up, get Alex Jones to not cover a conspiracy theory, and cause him to dismiss a reporter, who then apparently thinks better of it and joins the coverup?


and still firmly in unauthenticated, might very well be 4chan hoaxers, territory, what was in some of the removed Biggs footage

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=58783 (http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=58783)

Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on December 14, 2016, 07:20:48 AM
If a hoax...it's pretty extensive and nasty...

But, as Progs taught us...it's not about truth, it's about allegations being used as a sledgehammer...so...until the guilty are proven innocent, they are guilty...progs should after all suffer prog justice.
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on January 04, 2017, 08:35:51 AM
A new player listed - DynCorp -

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2017/01/02/dyncorps-involvement-in-pizzagate-the-seven-country-plan-and-who-killed-monica-peterson/ (http://www.captainsjournal.com/2017/01/02/dyncorps-involvement-in-pizzagate-the-seven-country-plan-and-who-killed-monica-peterson/)

...could explain the who behind the recent "accidents"...
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 11, 2017, 11:45:08 AM
All the proof you need that Pizzagate is real

http://news.sky.com/story/spy-chief-would-not-put-it-past-russia-to-plant-child-porn-on-pcs-10724583 (http://news.sky.com/story/spy-chief-would-not-put-it-past-russia-to-plant-child-porn-on-pcs-10724583)

The RUSSIANS DID IT!

And now you know the real reason they have been pushing the Russian Hacking Narrative. No Blood for Oil but we can certainly start a war to provide plausible deniability for the child prostitution ring we participate in.
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on January 12, 2017, 07:20:24 AM
All the proof you need that Pizzagate is real

http://news.sky.com/story/spy-chief-would-not-put-it-past-russia-to-plant-child-porn-on-pcs-10724583 (http://news.sky.com/story/spy-chief-would-not-put-it-past-russia-to-plant-child-porn-on-pcs-10724583)

The RUSSIANS DID IT!

And now you know the real reason they have been pushing the Russian Hacking Narrative. No Blood for Oil but we can certainly start a war to provide plausible deniability for the child prostitution ring we participate in.

the hacking conclusions had been based on "human sources, technical collection and open source information".

Yeah, shuure.  Whose humans?  Who collected what from whom?  And "open source info"?  Oh, catch all for other sh*t we don't have to justify!

Damn, no wonder politicians are so easy to bamboozle...stupid, complicit or both...it's the perfect blend for that fascism that stinky rabble on the street thinks only comes from one source...

Mr Clapper said much of the intelligence community's report could not be revealed in order to protect sensitive sources and methods.

BS!  It cannot be revealed because there is not one shred of evidence.  When the price for being wrong means seeing your nation in radioactive ruin...I think the burden of proof demands full disclosure of your evidence...otherwise it isn't worth exchanging nukes over, is it, asshole?!

What a smug statist goon!  This one I would vote to hang by his shriveled old junk and leave for the crows to fight over!

Russia had tried to influence elections in a "couple of dozen" countries.

How many have we influenced?  Obama and the Dem's have made several attempts to dick with Israeli politics and routinely target Netanyahu for defeat...while dropping to a knee before the likes of Castro and the Persians...who can possibly defeat that asshole for dickhead of the century?

He said he believed that the Russians had concluded that it was best to support then Republican candidate Donald Trump because he was a businessman and "he'd be easier to make deals with" than the Democrats.

What the hell kind of 3rd grade bullsh*t is that?  Putin has been doing whateverthefvckhewants with Obama in office because Obama is easier to fold than a Bangkok hooker!  They're still pissed because back in the day when Russia was the socialist utopia it was the Statesman who brokered deals with the Soviets and only a madman like Reagan waving nuclear warheads around was judged insane for not cutting any deal!  Now, since they're no longer socialist cutting deals with them makes one insane and risking nuclear war with them is the Statesman thing to do?  These fvckers are completely effed in the head!

He also said that he wouldn't "put it past" Russia to plant indecent images of children on the computers of American citizens.

Finally we have it, the Establishment story for why any evidence gets liberated showing their members engaged in child sex activities...never mind the truthfulness of the evidence...it was planted by the Russians!  Yeah, the crackhead "that's not mine, I was framed" schtick.  What an imagination they have.  And since they cannot produce high grade manufactured evidence backing up their bogus Russian angle...I can only conclude the evidence of the Establishment pedophile ring is quite damaging.

FBI Director James Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee the Democratic National Committee denied "multiple requests" made by his agents to examine its hacked servers.

Well, if it proves they are buying under age sex slaves to rape...uhh, duh?!  Why else would they deny access, hmmm?!

He said he had "no doubt" that Russian hackers accessed voter data from state election systems.  Mr Comey also said there were indications that Russian hackers had penetrated the Republican National Committee's computers,

Wow, no doubt...but also no proof...isn't that just...  ::hysterical::

I have no doubt these people are lying straight through their teeth, I have no doubt these people know the real truth and are scared sh*tless to utter a single word of it for fear of being accidentally suicided in the head with a drill placed in their off-hand at the next crime scene...and I have no doubt these psychotic cowardly batshyt insane child-raping bastards will risk a full nuclear exchange with Russia than admit to the slightest fact!

If ever there was a case where people with the means to do so ever needed to carry out an extra-legal mission to kidnap suspected key players in this mess and subject them to filmed interrogation and play their confessions to the world...this is one of those cases.

Too bad we'll not get to see it...

All these morons will have us see is mushroom clouds...if we see anything at all...

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on January 12, 2017, 10:51:33 AM
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2017/01/11/challenge-to-the-fbi-and-cia/ (http://www.captainsjournal.com/2017/01/11/challenge-to-the-fbi-and-cia/)

Challenges are nice...but something tells me these assholes will only respond to direct personal contact...
Title: Re: Pizzagate
Post by: Libertas on December 20, 2023, 09:40:52 AM
https://twitter.com/LizCrokin/status/1737192884489572754

Seems overly optimistic to me...but I would like to be pleasantly surprised with mass outbreaks of real good ol' American honest-to-God justice...