It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => World/Foreign Affairs => Topic started by: Libertas on May 19, 2011, 02:36:33 PM
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1967 borders! As soon as I heard that Netanyahu's response was chiseled in stone. Obamakov is desperate to repair his cred with his lunatic base and will throw Jews under the bus to achieve it. But then throwing Jews under the bus comes natural to this bastard doesn't it?!
::mooning::
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/19/obamas-mideast-speech-offers-punishment-praise/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/19/obamas-mideast-speech-offers-punishment-praise/)
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This is unreal. I truly believe Duh Wun believes he can do any damn thing he wants, say anything he wants, and everybody else is required to jump. Unfortunately, in too many instances, this is exactly how events are playing out.
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At least Bibi is one of the few who can and will tell Barry where to jump!
::thumbsup::
Sure would be nice if he had a lot more support though!
::angry::
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I read where this has been the US stance for several years. The obamamessiah is the only one who has gone out and really stressed it though. Can this guy(?) just STFU?
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Apparently not. "It's good to be King".
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No President I can recall has ever asserted as US policy that Israel shrink to 1967 size, I think Clinton flirted with it and Mitchell told him it was a non-starter, primarily because of the volatile issue of Jerusalem (see map link), so "other" land for peace became their mantra. G W Bush said Jerusalem is Israel's, so Obamakov is definitely playing with fire. Perhaps the diseased minds in Foggy Bottom always tout that BS, but they are chartered to execute policy, not make it up independently.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/borders.html (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/borders.html)
Israel will never give one speck of Jerusalem up! Nor should they! It is their eternal city, nobody else has a valid claim.
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No President I can recall has ever asserted as US policy that Israel shrink to 1967 size, I think Clinton flirted with it and Mitchell told him it was a non-starter, primarily because of the volatile issue of Jerusalem (see map link), so "other" land for peace became their mantra. G W Bush said Jerusalem is Israel's, so Obamakov is definitely playing with fire. Perhaps the diseased minds in Foggy Bottom always tout that BS, but they are chartered to execute policy, not make it up independently.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/borders.html (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/borders.html)
Israel will never give one speck of Jerusalem up! Nor should they! It is their eternal city, nobody else has a valid claim.
Duh Wun himself said Jerusalem is Israel's, during the campaign. As with everything, this also has an expiration date.
This is very bad.
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Our nation, and the world, seriously need Duh Wun to reach his expiration date, and at the earliest possible convenience!!!
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Fisking here (http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=186491), H/T nbpundit.
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Listening to a radio show in Indiana--the host is spending his whole show on this --he's outraged
many people calling in feeling the same
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Mark Levin is not yelling. This, IMO, is not a good sign. I believe he knows if he lets go, he may do himself in right on the air.
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Mark Levin is not yelling. This, IMO, is not a good sign. I believe he knows if he lets go, he may do himself in right on the air.
Noticed that too
I thought the guy I was listening to earlier was going to lose it
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/144338 (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/144338)
“That is why Prime Minister Netanyahu expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004, which were overwhelmingly supported by both Houses of Congress.”
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Mark Levin is not yelling. This, IMO, is not a good sign. I believe he knows if he lets go, he may do himself in right on the air.
Noticed that too
I thought the guy I was listening to earlier was going to lose it
Who was it?
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I saw a comment at Ace's that said that Israel should return to its 1967 borders--December 1967.
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/holy/art/map.jpg)
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Mark Levin is not yelling. This, IMO, is not a good sign. I believe he knows if he lets go, he may do himself in right on the air.
Noticed that too
I thought the guy I was listening to earlier was going to lose it
Who was it?
Sorry I don't remember--I was listening to Rush and this guy followed--it's a local show. I usually change it after Rush. It's an Indiana station I can pick up when I take my kids to Hillsdale Michigan.
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I saw a comment at Ace's that said that Israel should return to its 1967 borders--December 1967.
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/holy/art/map.jpg)
::thumbsup::
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Maybe that's what Barry meant, we just misunderstood him.
He's so misunderstood.
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I saw a comment at Ace's that said that Israel should return to its 1967 borders--December 1967.
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/holy/art/map.jpg)
Gotta love a good buffer!
Especially since you don't know what kind of crazies will be taking over Egypt, thanks to Duh Wun!
Peace just gonna break out all spontaneous, ya know man?!
::cussing:: boy tyrant!
::mooning::
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I'm afraid the Holy Bible requires this, as bitter as it is. All nations must turn against Israel before the battle of Armageddon. Thus we know which master Barack Hussein Obama serves.
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I did a little fisking tonight at the Market Ticker. (http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=186491&ord=2555883#2555883)
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I did a little fisking tonight at the Market Ticker. (http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=186491&ord=2555883#2555883)
Who the hell does that idiot think lived in JUDEA??
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There is a real opportunity for a gutsy reporter to ask some questions here:
"Have you been to the Holocaust Museum yet, Mr. President and if so what was your impression?"
"Did you ever see the movie, Schindler's List?"
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I'm afraid the Holy Bible requires this, as bitter as it is. All nations must turn against Israel before the battle of Armageddon. Thus we know which master Barack Hussein Obama serves.
We know which master he serves but there is not a due date for Armageddon and we don't need to worry 'bout that because all the faithful will be already gone. Tribulation's not for the faithful. However, being in this earthly frame of mind it would be gratifying to drive the devil back in his hole and us to continue in this earthly plane toward more refinement.
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There is a real opportunity for a gutsy reporter to ask some questions here:
"Have you been to the Holocaust Museum yet, Mr. President and if so what was your impression?"
"Did you ever see the movie, Schindler's List?"
He could go to the source and read the codified accounts.
I'm sure the good teachers at Annapolis and West Point would be glad "shepherd" him
through the archives. Maybe let him see some secret stuff too.
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From Ann Barnhardt's website (http://barnhardt.biz/):
OBAMA TRYING HIS DAMNDEST TO START WW3
POSTED BY ANN BARNHARDT - MAY 19, AD 2011 11:57 AM MST
Okay. Here's what you need to understand about what Obama just did. He said that there needs to be a Palestinian State based upon the pre-1967 borders. This isn't just throwing Israel under the bus, this is throwing Israel into the woodchipper. This is like saying that the U.S. needs to return to the 1802 borders. Wait . . . no one give him any ideas about that. I'm sure Obama would be tickled to death with that.
Benjamin Netanyahu is en route to the U.S. and is scheduled to give a speech to a joint session of Congress. Obama has just chop-blocked one of our staunchest allies. Further, what Obama is really doing is inciting and inflaming anti-Israel sentiment on the Muslim street, which is already wildly destabilized. He is throwing gas on the fire.
Here is what they are trying to do. If Israel does not now FULLY surrender to the pre-1967 borders, the muslims will use this as an excuse to riot and eventually attack - because they now have the EXPLICIT BLESSING of the POTUS to do so. Obama/Soros has given the Caliphate a central rallying point. In the name of "human rights", Obama/Soros is setting up a chessboard whereby a U.S./U.N. occupation of Israel will be "needed" to "enforce" the 1967 borders. If Israel tries to defend itself against muslim aggression - which remember has been agitated by Obama himself - or defend its sovereign territory, Obama/Soros will cast these actions of Israeli self-defense and self-preservation as "human rights violations" and move in. DO WE NOW FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE LIBYAN ACTION WAS? It was simply to establish a precedent. Bishop to e6.
If I may be so bold, Netanyahu needs to take a page out of my playbook. He needs to give Obama the @$$kicking of a lifetime in his address to Congress. These Obama/Soros people are common gutter-scum street thugs, and need to be treated accordingly. TAKE OFF THE GLOVES AND BRING THE BEAT-DOWN. Because it is either that, or World War 3.
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I don't usually listen to Stymie's soliloquies but I made an exception in this case . Knowing that he had to say something after the exit of George Mitchell , I knew , also , that this was going to be stock "Fru-Fru" on the Middle East in general and something very pointed about Israeli / Palestinian negotiations . What Stymie attempted was a fumbling effort to pre-empt Netanyahu prior to his visit here . What he didn't figure on was the fact that he doesn't have "authority 1" to give away a square inch of Israeli territory and that if he tries to get any tougher with them a majority of voters and members of congress will cut him off at his liberal knees . Secondly , Stymie apparently has forgotten ( if he ever knew to begin with ) that Netanyahu is a magnificent , and dramatic public speaker and his counter punch before a joint session of congress is going to put Chicago Boy to shame .
Strategically , Israel cannot give up the Golan Heights . That's out ! Morally and Spritually , they can't and won't give up any part of Jerusalem that they currently control . Logistically , they're not about to give up a connecting strip of land between Gaza and the West Bank .
To put it mildly ... Stymie just stepped on his own nuts .
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I would like Netanyahu to inform congress that we have an anti-Semitic traitor in our midst.
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I would like Netanyahu to inform confirm to congress that we have an anti-Semitic traitor in our midst.
FTFY
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I'm afraid the Holy Bible requires this, as bitter as it is. All nations must turn against Israel before the battle of Armageddon. Thus we know which master Barack Hussein Obama serves.
We know which master he serves but there is not a due date for Armageddon and we don't need to worry 'bout that because all the faithful will be already gone. Tribulation's not for the faithful. However, being in this earthly frame of mind it would be gratifying to drive the devil back in his hole and us to continue in this earthly plane toward more refinement.
It may surprise you to know that my faith has not led me to believe that pre-tribulation rapture is a forgone conclusion. I understand that is a common interpretation, but in any studies I've done, I cannot find where that conclusion is drawn convincingly. I don't discount it out of hand either. But I'm more inclined to think that we'll be here fighting.
ETA: I'm not trying to challenge your faith or anyone elses. I respect the pre-trib rapture theology, and as I said, don't discount it. I just wanted to share my view.
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I don't believe in "The Rature" but that's just me .
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I believe in a reckoning, and it just seems like this batsh*t-crazy SOB in the WH right now is doing all he can to expedite it!
Michelle Bachmann said it best, Obama had “betrayed our friend and ally Israel.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55338.html#ixzz1Mth8crju (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55338.html#ixzz1Mth8crju)
I would give anything to be a fly on the wall when Bibi gets into this bastards face and tells this Judas his psychotic idea is DOA!
He has nothing to gain by being diplomatic with this Palestinian stooge, all illusion to friendliness should be evaporated by now. I'd like Bibi to bash this fool in public. If I were Bibi I would inform this traitor that if he does not immediately and in public retract this psychotic idea, Israel will remove its Ambassador to the US.
Somebody has to stand up to the Boy Tyrant!
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I'm afraid the Holy Bible requires this, as bitter as it is. All nations must turn against Israel before the battle of Armageddon. Thus we know which master Barack Hussein Obama serves.
We know which master he serves but there is not a due date for Armageddon and we don't need to worry 'bout that because all the faithful will be already gone. Tribulation's not for the faithful. However, being in this earthly frame of mind it would be gratifying to drive the devil back in his hole and us to continue in this earthly plane toward more refinement.
It may surprise you to know that my faith has not led me to believe that pre-tribulation rapture is a forgone conclusion. I understand that is a common interpretation, but in any studies I've done, I cannot find where that conclusion is drawn convincingly. I don't discount it out of hand either. But I'm more inclined to think that we'll be here fighting.
ETA: I'm not trying to challenge your faith or anyone elses. I respect the pre-trib rapture theology, and as I said, don't discount it. I just wanted to share my view.
I make no assumptions how you practice your faith is not my business. The intent was not to challenge your faith but to add commentary about Armageddon and to state that what ever time it comes - right now, "it would be gratifying to drive the devil back in his hole and us to continue in this earthly plane toward more refinement."
No offense intended.
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There is a Palestinian statehood vote coming up in the UN and Israel is counting on the US to veto it.
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There is a Palestinian statehood vote coming up in the UN and Israel is counting on the US to veto it.
That is set for September . Has anyone noticed what an important month September is in the history of Arab Terrorism ?
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I'm afraid the Holy Bible requires this, as bitter as it is. All nations must turn against Israel before the battle of Armageddon. Thus we know which master Barack Hussein Obama serves.
We know which master he serves but there is not a due date for Armageddon and we don't need to worry 'bout that because all the faithful will be already gone. Tribulation's not for the faithful. However, being in this earthly frame of mind it would be gratifying to drive the devil back in his hole and us to continue in this earthly plane toward more refinement.
It may surprise you to know that my faith has not led me to believe that pre-tribulation rapture is a forgone conclusion. I understand that is a common interpretation, but in any studies I've done, I cannot find where that conclusion is drawn convincingly. I don't discount it out of hand either. But I'm more inclined to think that we'll be here fighting.
ETA: I'm not trying to challenge your faith or anyone elses. I respect the pre-trib rapture theology, and as I said, don't discount it. I just wanted to share my view.
I make no assumptions how you practice your faith is not my business. The intent was not to challenge your faith but to add commentary about Armageddon and to state that what ever time it comes - right now, "it would be gratifying to drive the devil back in his hole and us to continue in this earthly plane toward more refinement."
No offense intended.
!!! None taken !!! !!! And none intended !!! I was only trying to delicately say that I'm unsure that the faithful will already be gone for the tribulation, without coming across as if I negate the beliefs of those who are sure.