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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: trapeze on June 10, 2011, 10:17:55 PM
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Perhaps he will run or maybe not. Looking more like he might, though.
Two separate and reliable sources in Texas tell me serious preparations are being made for Governor Rick Perry, 61, to seek the Republican nomination for president.
Dave Carney and Rob Johnson — the former top Perry aides who on Thursday left Newt Gingrich’s floundering campaign — are said to be heading to Texas soon to join in on preparations for the run. I am told this is now “ninety percent likely to occur.” Additionally, Perry allies have begun holding meetings in the state and have been instructed to quietly reach out to contacts in early primary states.
LINK (http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/09/sources-rick-perry-is-running/)
Okay, so Perry would become my candidate of choice over Cain almost immediately. I think Cain would make a good veep pick for whoever gets the nomination.
A great turn of events, really. Gingrich implodes and Perry immediately inherits his staff. Can't beat that with a stick.
This is going to be a really good primary season.
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an he's subtle too
(http://www.willisms.com/archives/texasownstheusa-thumb.gif)
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Texas Succeeding. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8igr4YX0ubk#ws)
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an he's subtle too
(http://www.willisms.com/archives/texasownstheusa-thumb.gif)
This may sound a little picky, but it is a pet peeve of mine when ANY politican claims they created a job. It needs to read "more private sector jobs have been created in Texas". Politicans do not create jobs. Politicans can only inhibit job creation by over regulation, taxation, etc. I wish we had a politican with this mindset instead of how they create jobs.
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...This may sound a little picky, but it is a pet peeve of mine when ANY politican claims they created a job. It needs to read "more private sector jobs have been created in Texas". Politicans do not create jobs. Politicans can only inhibit job creation by over regulation, taxation, etc. I wish we had a politican with this mindset instead of how they create jobs.
I agree in principle with what you're saying. I'd quibble only slightly, in that political influence over job creation is not only inhibitive. Government can also adopt policy that helps the private sector flourish - usually by standing aside, but not always. But that is a small quibble that leaves your point fully intact: government helps the private sector most when it does nothing.
I guess I would say too that I get why a politician would highlight a positive job-growth tenure in office with the simplified version, claiming at least partial credit for job-growth policies. As a business owner, you understand there is much more to the story. I think though, if we had a President who suddenly undid everything Obama and the Democrats have done to destroy economic growth, we may be inclined to forgive that person for taking some political credit.
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Perry/Cain.........
Perry............ insert name
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I think though, if we had a President who suddenly undid everything Obama and the Democrats have done to destroy economic growth, we may be inclined to forgive that person for taking some political credit.
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And as we are witnessing leadership drive job destruction, leadership can greatly influence the direction of legislation and bureaucratic perspective toward business and drive for a constructive economy.
This influence radiates as confidence and assurance of dependable constancy which inspires production. Confidence in a stable and predictable future nurtures a climate where people and business thrives. If leadership does not support this, winning is a hard pull.
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Øbozo has set the bar so low a comatose person could do a better job (you should have seen what I wrote first!)
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Øbozo has set the bar so low a comatose person could do a better job (you should have seen what I wrote first!)
Tell that to be blind left.
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Øbozo has set the bar so low a comatose person could do a better job (you should have seen what I wrote first!)
Tell that to be blind left.
::hysterical::
::hysterical:: ::hysterical::
The left have picked their leader. It's the mushy middle that's the worry. Have they had enough or have they succumbed?
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Øbozo has set the bar so low a comatose person could do a better job (you should have seen what I wrote first!)
Tell that to be blind left.
Anymore the only things I have to share with the left begin with a "." and have numbers after them...
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry Rips Obama For Turning “Abortion Into A U.S. Export”…
LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110612/ap_on_el_ge/us_perry_abortion)
Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a potential 2012 presidential candidate, accused the Obama administration on Sunday of transforming abortion into a U.S. export and breaking faith with the nation’s founding principles by supporting taxpayer-funded embryonic stem cell research.
The conservative Republican has long been at odds with President Barack Obama’s stand on reproductive rights and stem cell research, but his remarks at an anti-abortion rally amounted to a political introduction to a mostly Hispanic crowd of about 5,000 at a downtown arena.
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Perry was greeted warmly by the crowd, and left to a standing ovation.
HT: Weasel Zippers (http://weaselzippers.us/2011/06/12/texas-gov-rick-perry-rips-obama-for-turning-abortion-into-a-u-s-export/)
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Preaching to the world.
A day of prayer and fasting at the Reliant Stadium
from various articles:
Last Monday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry proclaimed Saturday, Aug. 6, "a Day of Prayer and Fasting for our Nation to seek God's guidance and wisdom in addressing the challenges that face our communities, states and nation." the event ... nondenominational, apolitical and Christian. ... seeking "forgiveness, healing and blessing ..." and extended invitation to the other 49 governors to join...
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"Right now, America is in crisis: we have been besieged by financial debt, terrorism, and a multitude of natural disasters. As a nation, we must come together and call upon Jesus to guide us through unprecedented struggles, and thank Him for the blessings of freedom we so richly enjoy."_ _ _Governor Rick Perry
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"We simply want to humbly ask our creator to intervene on behalf of our people and nation, and ask for His blessing and healing power to transform our lives," Perry said in the letter.
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So far, though, not every governor is listening to the criticism. Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback plans to attend the August event, and three governors – Rick Scott in Florida, Nikki Haley in South Carolina and Christine Gregoire in Washington – will declare Aug. 6 a day of prayer in their states, ...
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Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/06/07/115365/perry-invited-us-governors-to.html#ixzz1P7wwNMva (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/06/07/115365/perry-invited-us-governors-to.html#ixzz1P7wwNMva)
Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/7606355.html#ixzz1P7vzOCwg (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/7606355.html#ixzz1P7vzOCwg)
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/06/perry-invites-governors-to-prayer-meeting/#ixzz1P7xONLuT (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/06/perry-invites-governors-to-prayer-meeting/#ixzz1P7xONLuT)
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/07/perrys-planned-prayer-event-draws-condemnation/#ixzz1P7yTViH6 (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/07/perrys-planned-prayer-event-draws-condemnation/#ixzz1P7yTViH6)
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Gov. Perry Declares August 6th a Day of Prayer
Proclamation
In 1775, the Continental Congress asked the colonies to join in prayer, seeking wisdom as they faced the responsibility and opportunity of building a new nation. As leaders of that young nation assembled in 1787 to craft a Constitution, Benjamin Franklin implored the framers to pray for guidance, famously declaring, "The longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth: that God governs in the affairs of men." Decades later, during a time of national turmoil, President John Adams declared "a day of solemn humiliation, fasting and prayer," asking citizens of all faiths to pray for America's protection from danger. Later, as civil war tore our young country apart, President Abraham Lincoln proclaimed a day of national fasting and prayer, saying "It behooves us ... to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray to the God that made us." During World War II, with our troops locked in battle on the beaches of France, President Franklin D. Roosevelt led the nation in prayer, "As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts."
Given the trials that have beset our country and world - from the global economic downturn to natural disasters, the lingering danger of terrorism and wars that endanger our troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and theaters of conflict around the globe, and the decline of our culture in the context of the demise of families - it seems imperative that the people of our nation should once again join together for a solemn day of prayer and fasting on behalf of our troubled nation.
In times of trouble, even those who have been granted power by the people must turn to God in humility for wisdom, mercy and direction. In the spirit of the Book of Joel, Chapter 2, Verses 15-16, I urge a solemn gathering of prayer and fasting. As those verses admonish: "15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, declare a holy fast, call a sacred assembly... 16 Gather the people, consecrate the assembly..." As Jesus prayed publicly for the benefit of others in John 11:41-42, so should we express our faith in this way.
THEREFORE, I invite my fellow Texans to join me on August 6 at Reliant Stadium in Houston, as we pray for unity and righteousness - for this great state, this great nation and all mankind. I urge Americans of faith to pray on that day for the healing of our country, the rebuilding of our communities and the restoration of enduring values as our guiding force.
THEREFORE, I, Rick Perry, Governor of Texas, do hereby proclaim August 6, 2011, to be
A Day of Prayer and Fasting for Our Nation
in Texas, and urge the appropriate recognition whereof.
In official recognition whereof, I hereby affix my signature this the 23rd day of May, 2011.
RICK PERRY
Governor of Texas
http://theresponseusa.com/ (http://theresponseusa.com/)
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I'm thinking this is just what we need
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I'm thinking this is just what we need
Can you see that debate?? He should really clean his clock.
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She?
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She?
Type o.
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Anyone know if Perry will make the debate tomorrow night? Or is that for declared candidates only?
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Bachmann is going so it is not restricted to declared only.
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...This may sound a little picky, but it is a pet peeve of mine when ANY politican claims they created a job. It needs to read "more private sector jobs have been created in Texas". Politicans do not create jobs. Politicans can only inhibit job creation by over regulation, taxation, etc. I wish we had a politican with this mindset instead of how they create jobs.
I agree in principle with what you're saying. I'd quibble only slightly, in that political influence over job creation is not only inhibitive. Government can also adopt policy that helps the private sector flourish - usually by standing aside, but not always. But that is a small quibble that leaves your point fully intact: government helps the private sector most when it does nothing.
I guess I would say too that I get why a politician would highlight a positive job-growth tenure in office with the simplified version, claiming at least partial credit for job-growth policies. As a business owner, you understand there is much more to the story. I think though, if we had a President who suddenly undid everything Obama and the Democrats have done to destroy economic growth, we may be inclined to forgive that person for taking some political credit.
In my mind, there is a vast difference in the self congratulory slap on the back in claiming " I have created a job" vs an administration hiliting economic policy which will allow American business to do what WE do best. Imo, it is completely different messages.
I would go gaga if a candidate said "i'm gonna get out of the way and I'm gonna remove policy in the way"..... The people would accept it because it's just ambiguous enough for the huddled masses and the informed would know exactly what was meant. In other words, I'd outobama obama...and follow thru.
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Bachmann is going so it is not restricted to declared only.
She declared.
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Rick Perry’s Scandalous Skeletons Come Out of the Closet! (http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/06/17/rick-perrys-scandalous-skeletons-come-out-of-the-closet/)
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Stand up and stop apologizing (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/18/6889280-perry-stand-up-and-stop-apologizing)
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Of all the speakers of the three-day confab, Perry was the best-received, even more so than Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), who was a close second. Perry got a standing ovation when he took the stage, several times during his speech, and at the end.
“He’s the man,” one man said to a woman right after Perry’s speech.
“Him and Bachmann,” she responded. “That’s the ticket.”
ETA: This is a better link than the RCP link - especially if your connection is slow. LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9dUMJyzjtA#)
6/18/11 - Here is complete video of Texas Gov. Rick Perry speaking today at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans. From the speech Perry delivered, it is clear he is not just preparing to launch a campaign - he sounded like a man launching a movement.
Real Clear Politics Video: LINK (http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/06/18/perry_left_never_going_to_like_us_so_lets_stop_trying_to_curry_favor_with_them.html)
"It saddens me when sometimes my fellow Republicans duck and cover in the face of pressure from the left. Our party cannot be all things to all people," Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX)
LINK (http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/06/perry-roadtests.php)
"This administration in Washington that's in power now clearly believes that government is not only the answer to every need, but it's the most qualified to make the most central decisions for every American in every area," . [Obama's approach to the economy is] "an affront to every freedom-loving American and a threat to every private sector job in this country."
_ _ _ _ Governor Rick Perry, (Tx)
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He is saying a lot of good stuff, and it appears he may be gearing up for a run. Sounds like right now he is speed-dialing donors...if a money-bomb solicitation comes along I would take that as a pretty positive indication.
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Perry - Bachmann could become the "Dream Team".
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Too early to say. Perry does have some of his own issues to overcome. Saying nice things now is one thing...jumping in with both feet and having his record examined by peers another. I can be patient for now and let the process proceed. In the meantime I am enjoying seeing my gal Michele do well. Assuming she's in it to just settle for Veep I think is naive, misguided and possibly offensive. I would rather see her stay in my district than settle for second banana, and not knowing who the top of the ticket it could be a disaster.
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Too early to say. Perry does have some of his own issues to overcome. Saying nice things now is one thing...jumping in with both feet and having his record examined by peers another. I can be patient for now and let the process proceed. In the meantime I am enjoying seeing my gal Michele do well. Assuming she's in it to just settle for Veep I think is naive, misguided and possibly offensive. I would rather see her stay in my district than settle for second banana, and not knowing who the top of the ticket it could be a disaster.
She's not in it for the Veep, she got the fire. She is impressive but... well, considering only the group up there who else? They are either retreads, Ruling Class or same ol same ol. Cain, but he is not upgrading his presentation. I wouldn't want to lose her either and more importantly she is a needed force in the house. No offense intended for her as Veep. A Perry/Bachmann ticket would pull both ends of the continent and that could be overwhelming to adversaries.
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Too early to say. Perry does have some of his own issues to overcome. Saying nice things now is one thing...jumping in with both feet and having his record examined by peers another. I can be patient for now and let the process proceed. In the meantime I am enjoying seeing my gal Michele do well. Assuming she's in it to just settle for Veep I think is naive, misguided and possibly offensive. I would rather see her stay in my district than settle for second banana, and not knowing who the top of the ticket it could be a disaster.
She's not in it for the Veep, she got the fire. She is impressive but... well, considering only the group up there who else? They are either retreads, Ruling Class or same ol same ol. Cain, but he is not upgrading his presentation. I wouldn't want to lose her either and more importantly she is a needed force in the house. No offense intended for her as Veep. A Perry/Bachmann ticket would pull both ends of the continent and that could be overwhelming to adversaries.
Yeah, a lot depends on how this shakes out and who floats to the top. If Michele accepts a Veep spot it will have to be offered by a candidate she can identify with and respect, it won't be just anybody, that's all I'm trying to convey. Wether that could be Perry or someone else is up for debate. Romney is going to annoy the heck out of me, he has too much cash right now so he'll run the string out, and overcoming the Ruling Class clowns, fighting the MFM and resisting the urge to destroy themselves simultaneously is a lot to overcome whenever Repub's congregate!
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Romney won't get it, there are viable alternatives from which the base may choose. He could have redeemed himself over the past four years but has steadfastly resisted. Romney could win a national election but not the primary.
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True, but his pile of cash ensures he'll be meddlesome for some time...potentially draining the resources of better options. I'd like to think that if he gets buried in several early primaries he graciously bows out, but that pile of money could make it difficult to just walk away... And then you also have to worry about who he would endorse even if he does bow out...that endorsement could be beneficial or detrimental...depending upon your horse in the race.
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I'm irritated by states with open primaries. Meddling from the Left will be widespread next year since they have nothing to miss in their own primary. Two of the high profile early primaries, NH and SC, both have open primaries too. ::facepalm::
Was Romney's asinine statement about global warming designed to highlight himself as the choice for interlopers? It's all about securing the nomination...by whatever means necessary, right?
Romney will almost certainly win in New Hampshire, because Republicans there would be Democrats in any other region of the country. Let's hope this is followed up by a rebuke in South Carolina. I hate this tendency of Republicans to just fall into line with whatever small momentum is established in the first few primaries.
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I agree.
And conservative/Tea Party turnout in SC will be key to overcoming leftist shenannigans and Ruling Class operatives!
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I agree.
And conservative/Tea Party turnout in SC will be key to overcoming leftist shenannigans and Ruling Class operatives!
And having the right kind of Governor helps loads.
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I agree.
And conservative/Tea Party turnout in SC will be key to overcoming leftist shenannigans and Ruling Class operatives!
And having the right kind of Governor helps loads.
Yeah, and leftnuts hate her too, so maybe she can run interference for the candidates and draw their fire!
::thumbsup::
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Rick Perry will be in New Hampshire in October to check out the spectacular foliage, and speak at a fundraising dinner for the Cornerstone Action Group. In the meantime Texas Democrats are invesitigating him pilforing petty cash to pay for his jaunts.
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Rick Perry will be in New Hampshire in October to check out the spectacular foliage, and speak at a fundraising dinner for the Cornerstone Action Group. In the meantime Texas Democrats are invesitigating him pilforing petty cash to pay for his jaunts.
Heh, funny. Perry is a saint compared to Pelosi, Obama, Clinton...
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LINK (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20076936-503544.html)
[blockquote]A political showdown is brewing in the Lone Star State.
On one side is Texas governor Rick Perry, who is considering a late entry into the GOP presidential race. And on the other are allies of former Texas governor (and, of course, president) George W. Bush,...
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Here's a clue. There was no nurturing from Governor Bush and the only alliance was a Rovian numerological one designed to improve his boss's position in Texas. Witness Perry's last campaign against Kay Hutchison where the Bush's and Rove et al were allied with Mrs. Hutchison. Whatever Bush did for Perry was politics, they warn't never buddies. Whatever Perry is he is not Ruling Class material. He'd better remember it too.
This is an indication that the MSM believe Perry is in and they are chumming the water.
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I read elsewhere that the Texas legislature made public records secret (allegedly) to hide his campaign travel details
I don't trust him
Sorry
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In the meantime Texas Democrats are invesitigating him pilforing petty cash to pay for his jaunts.
I seriously doubt that he's that stupid .
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I don't think he's that dumb either, if evidence lets see it.
Also in the news-MFM plays up rift w/Bush. Like people cannot disagree with each others actions without it being a rift? In demonrat circles its called healthy debate...whatever. Anyway, if Perry statements are accurate, I cannot say his characterization of NCLB etc is off base.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20076936-503544.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20076936-503544.html)
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Gov. Rick Perry met Tuesday with former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf to exchange ideas about improving the economy and discuss the strained relationship between the U.S. and Pakistani governments.
Rick and Anita Perry dined with Pervez Musharraf and his wife at an Austin, Texas hotel.
The governor voiced concern that the historical relationship between our two countries are at not going well.
Musharraf later reflected that the essence of nations relationships is trust and that relations were excellent through 2008.
LINK (http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/political-digest-perry-musharraf-meet-in-austin-perry-1603593.html)
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6th in the Iowa poll...no sentiment there to lure him in...
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At this point I'm of the mind that we should line up around Michele Bachmann and try to make sure she has early momentum. We need to decapitate the Romney campaign within the first few primaries, and I think the best way to do that is for there to be a clear challenger and Tea Party favorite. If it comes down to "Romney and an assortment of others" we know how it's going to turn out.
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At this point I'm of the mind that we should line up around Michele Bachmann and try to make sure she has early momentum. We need to decapitate the Romney campaign within the first few primaries, and I think the best way to do that is for there to be a clear challenger and Tea Party favorite. If it comes down to "Romney and an assortment of others" we know how it's going to turn out.
::cool::
::thumbsup::
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At this point I'm of the mind that we should line up around Michele Bachmann and try to make sure she has early momentum. We need to decapitate the Romney campaign within the first few primaries, and I think the best way to do that is for there to be a clear challenger and Tea Party favorite. If it comes down to "Romney and an assortment of others" we know how it's going to turn out.
Yep....Bachmann picked up support and seems to have stripped it away from other, more conservative opponents. From what I saw this morning, Romney stayed at around 25%.
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At this point I don't see a reason not to support the Lady.
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LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/break-the-spend-and-borrow-cycle/2011/07/13/gIQAYYtZEI_story.html)
Break the spend-and-borrow cycle
By Rick Perry and Nikki Haley, Published: July 14
As governors of states whose residents, like all Americans, are desperate for the restoration of fiscal responsibility in Washington, we are proud to have signed the “Cut, Cap and Balance Pledge” amid the debate over once again raising the federal debt ceiling.
We oppose an increase in the federal debt limit unless three common-sense conditions are met: substantial cuts in spending; enforceable spending caps to put the country on a path to a balanced budget; and congressional passage of a balanced-budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution. That amendment should include a requirement for a congressional supermajority to approve any increases in taxes.
Article at LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/break-the-spend-and-borrow-cycle/2011/07/13/gIQAYYtZEI_story.html)
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LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/break-the-spend-and-borrow-cycle/2011/07/13/gIQAYYtZEI_story.html)
Break the spend-and-borrow cycle
By Rick Perry and Nikki Haley, Published: July 14
As governors of states whose residents, like all Americans, are desperate for the restoration of fiscal responsibility in Washington, we are proud to have signed the “Cut, Cap and Balance Pledge” amid the debate over once again raising the federal debt ceiling.
We oppose an increase in the federal debt limit unless three common-sense conditions are met: substantial cuts in spending; enforceable spending caps to put the country on a path to a balanced budget; and congressional passage of a balanced-budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution. That amendment should include a requirement for a congressional supermajority to approve any increases in taxes.
Article at LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/break-the-spend-and-borrow-cycle/2011/07/13/gIQAYYtZEI_story.html)
::thumbsup::
More please!
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This whole "I feel a calling" thing kind of creeps me out. This guy does have a history of putting his finger into the wind and following the wind wherever it goes.
Bachmann leaving her church for political expediancy. Not good. Smells like Ed Rollins is starting to get to her, and that can never mean good things. The reason people like you, Michele, is that you're authentic. This is not helping the authentic quotient.
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Ed Rollins is a big water balloon in the face. I had forgotten about him.
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Forgetting him should be mandatory!
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Forgetting him should be mandatory!
As long as Bachmann does, too.
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This whole "I feel a calling" thing kind of creeps me out.
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::facepalm:: ::bashing::
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This whole "I feel a calling" thing kind of creeps me out. This guy does have a history of putting his finger into the wind and following the wind wherever it goes.
Bachmann leaving her church for political expediancy. Not good. Smells like Ed Rollins is starting to get to her, and that can never mean good things. The reason people like you, Michele, is that you're authentic. This is not helping the authentic quotient.
I don't think he meant that as a religious calling.That would put me off too.