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Title: China
Post by: patentlymn on November 27, 2022, 02:22:37 PM

I found a few recent videos from China. More protests than usual over there. Mostly lock down related.

Mostly videos of China in lockdown and riots.
https://youtu.be/RcOTkaC0UxQ
 Tens of thousands of people storm the blockade, workers free to escape Guangzhou/Foxconn Updates
China Insights
287K subscribers
494K views  8 days ago

I find China so confusing. Sometimes I think the Chinese people are sheep.
Then I think they have giant balls.
They recently rioted over covid shut downs.
Now they saw all the maskless people at the world cup.

https://youtu.be/zFA_c9PjBEI
 Chinese people are angry now! The World Cup showed them masks aren't needed in the world.
China Insights
287K subscribers
323K views  1 day ago

https://youtu.be/vPRDLqggwQU
 EMERGENCY - China Has Erupted - REVOLUTION!!!
The China Show
187K subscribers
464K views  Streamed 18 hours ago
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 27, 2022, 09:13:02 PM
They invented pleasant sounding campaigns to crush any germ of individualism or silly notions of freedom...

And people think Arab Springs and color revolutions are something new and Western in origin...

LOL

Mao and his successors rewrote the book...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on November 28, 2022, 11:22:52 AM
They invented pleasant sounding campaigns to crush any germ of individualism or silly notions of freedom...

And people think Arab Springs and color revolutions are something new and Western in origin...

LOL

Mao and his successors rewrote the book...
I saw a headline saying that the protesters were signing the Internationale, the old commie anthem.
I saw some had the Chinese commie flag.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 28, 2022, 12:24:01 PM
They invented pleasant sounding campaigns to crush any germ of individualism or silly notions of freedom...

And people think Arab Springs and color revolutions are something new and Western in origin...

LOL

Mao and his successors rewrote the book...
I saw a headline saying that the protesters were signing the Internationale, the old commie anthem.
I saw some had the Chinese commie flag.

Well, not like they would know anything else, eh? 

See this?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/shanghai-police-pummel-kick-bbc-reporter-edward-lawrence-covid-protest-china-detain-hours-video/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/shanghai-police-pummel-kick-bbc-reporter-edward-lawrence-covid-protest-china-detain-hours-video/)

Wonder if DemoCommies like the way the press is treated in China?

(crickets)

Uyghurs, plandemic dissidents...resisters of enlightened CCP rule...losing a few million here or there is of no consequence...

See what they are doing as a distraction?

The regime is apparently using Chinese bots to flood Twitter with porn and escort ads to stop the spread of news about the protest and make it more difficult for users to access information.

The New York Post reports:

Chinese bots are swamping Twitter with sexually explicit posts about porn and escorts in an apparent bid to stop the spread of news about the massive protests against lockdowns and President Xi Jinping.

Searches for major Chinese cities that have seen mass protests will “mostly see ads for escorts/porn/gambling, drowning out legitimate search results,” said Air-Moving Device, sharing a series of charts.

“Data analysis in this thread suggests that there has been a significant uptick in these spam tweets,” the outlet said, sharing data retweeted by Stanford Internet Observatorydirector Alex Stamos.

The “vast majority” — more than 95% — appear to be spam accounts that “tweet at a high, steady rate throughout the day, suggesting automation,” the analysis said.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/chinese-bots-flooding-twitter-porn-escorts-bury-news-massive-protests-covid-lockdowns/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/chinese-bots-flooding-twitter-porn-escorts-bury-news-massive-protests-covid-lockdowns/)

See what happens when you make social media subservient to government?!

And hey, if they're pimping "escorts"...shouldn't a communist citizen get them free of charge?   ::hysterical::

Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 29, 2022, 09:16:47 AM
ETA - H/T-CTH -

https://youtu.be/5itx3v8So7E (https://youtu.be/5itx3v8So7E)

 ::hysterical::

'The foreign forces you are talking about – are they Marx and Engels?'

https://twitter.com/CindyXiaodanYu/status/1597247427781984257 (https://twitter.com/CindyXiaodanYu/status/1597247427781984257)

Wow!  CCP ain't gonna like that kind of talk!!!

https://babylonbee.com/news/china-taps-governor-gretchen-whitmer-to-lead-lockdown-enforcement/ (https://babylonbee.com/news/china-taps-governor-gretchen-whitmer-to-lead-lockdown-enforcement/)

Did the yankee imperialist capitalist fascist Americans intervene in China?  No, we can only joke about it!

Running-dog CCP owns this mess 100%.

China - the Technate model.

This is good, long, and if you're like me your blood will boil...but it is a necessary read...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-worlds-first-technate-part-1 (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-worlds-first-technate-part-1)

Will post additional parts as they come.  Technology and totalitarianism is an inhumane mix!

ETA - A refresher of the past...

https://youtu.be/R_OM9a1mpnk (https://youtu.be/R_OM9a1mpnk)

H/T-CTH
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 30, 2022, 09:33:59 AM
Last month Xi had Hu Jintao booted from the CCP love-fest...now, 'ol Jiang Zemin bit the dust...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/former-chinese-president-jiang-zemin-who-ruled-after-tiananmen-massacre-dies-96 (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/former-chinese-president-jiang-zemin-who-ruled-after-tiananmen-massacre-dies-96)

...and they have to be dismissive of 'ol Hu in the announcement...

...bet he gets to bite the dust next...

Meanwhile, Bloody Xi rolls armor into Zuzhou...Shanghi et al still being repressed...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20585179/tanks-streets-china-xi-crushing-lockdown-protests/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20585179/tanks-streets-china-xi-crushing-lockdown-protests/)

Sucks when your slaves get upitty, eh? 
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on December 01, 2022, 11:59:30 AM

The long ruling party in Taiwan just lost an election. They were said to be pro US and pro independence.
Some analysts said that the Ukraine war tipped the balance away from that party. Some do not want to be used by the US to harm China as the US is using Ukraine to harm Russia.

https://www.grid.news/story/global/2022/11/29/the-other-midterms-what-taiwans-elections-tell-us-about-the-islands-future-as-china-looms-large/ (https://www.grid.news/story/global/2022/11/29/the-other-midterms-what-taiwans-elections-tell-us-about-the-islands-future-as-china-looms-large/)

Lev Nachman: The significance is that for the last few years, I think that there’s been such popularity internationally around Tsai Ing-wen, the current president of the DPP, that I think from an international perspective, it seemed like they’re the only game in town and that the KMT is failing and struggling to have any sort of electoral victory, especially after their really crushing defeat in 2020. And what these local elections remind us is that the KMT, domestically, still has a strong voter base. Now, that doesn’t mean that everyone in Taiwan is secretly pro-China or is more open to unification. It does not mean that at all. There’s so much polling data that shows that when it comes to the issue of cross-strait relations, which is the most important issue in Taiwan, that the DPP’s policies are still more popular than the KMT’s policies.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/12/01/bqmc-d01.html (https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/12/01/bqmc-d01.html)



Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on December 01, 2022, 12:50:56 PM
Hilarious.

Pretty sure it is the CCP that owns America...witness too, earlier "backlog" of military items for Taiwan..."backlog" = "nothing for you"...how can America use somebody it refuses to arm?

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/china_and-Biden_traitors-1024x790.jpg)

Crush those peasants into mush!  Really, clowns above will still love you!
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on December 16, 2022, 08:55:55 AM
Technate Part II -

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-worlds-first-technate-part-2 (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-worlds-first-technate-part-2)

It is undeniable that socialism is the ideal fertilizer for which to brew such a dystopian Hell on Earth.

And, the usual suspects strewn throughout and the utilization of G3P's, think-tanks, et al to form the web of tyranny...corrupting institutions...corrupting politics...corrupting the flow of information and education...corrupting everything...

I find it stunning that so many other people are so fricken poisoned in the head by all these assholes and their minions that when the crap about "democracy" comes out of the demonic mouths of people devoted to destroying said (fallacious meaning of the word) "democracy" people's brains don't re-boot at all...they just drool and nod as if it was true.

But, The Good Book and Our Lord warned us...evil would be praised as good, good demonized as evil...

Prepare accordingly.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on December 16, 2022, 01:38:45 PM
Technate Part II -

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-worlds-first-technate-part-2 (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-worlds-first-technate-part-2)

It is undeniable that socialism is the ideal fertilizer for which to brew such a dystopian Hell on Earth.

And, the usual suspects strewn throughout and the utilization of G3P's, think-tanks, et al to form the web of tyranny...corrupting institutions...corrupting politics...corrupting the flow of information and education...corrupting everything...

I find it stunning that so many other people are so fricken poisoned in the head by all these assholes and their minions that when the crap about "democracy" comes out of the demonic mouths of people devoted to destroying said (fallacious meaning of the word) "democracy" people's brains don't re-boot at all...they just drool and nod as if it was true.

But, The Good Book and Our Lord warned us...evil would be praised as good, good demonized as evil...

Prepare accordingly.

Huh. China always puzzled me. The book The Party was pretty good but dated now as to the lack of censorship and control. I believe that the Chinese govt is pretty responsive to what the Chinese people want. I understand China mostly as a series of anecdotes. When the ADVChina guys were in China they provided lots of stories.

From the link above.
Quote
In the West we often have difficulty understanding or even conceptualising Chinese mores. We tend to see the world in our own terms and are able to describe it only in reference to the principles and philosophical concepts that we are familiar with. Perhaps we forget that the Western perspective is not the only one in the world.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on December 19, 2022, 09:45:01 AM
Technate Part II -

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-worlds-first-technate-part-2 (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-worlds-first-technate-part-2)

It is undeniable that socialism is the ideal fertilizer for which to brew such a dystopian Hell on Earth.

And, the usual suspects strewn throughout and the utilization of G3P's, think-tanks, et al to form the web of tyranny...corrupting institutions...corrupting politics...corrupting the flow of information and education...corrupting everything...

I find it stunning that so many other people are so fricken poisoned in the head by all these assholes and their minions that when the crap about "democracy" comes out of the demonic mouths of people devoted to destroying said (fallacious meaning of the word) "democracy" people's brains don't re-boot at all...they just drool and nod as if it was true.

But, The Good Book and Our Lord warned us...evil would be praised as good, good demonized as evil...

Prepare accordingly.

Huh. China always puzzled me. The book The Party was pretty good but dated now as to the lack of censorship and control. I believe that the Chinese govt is pretty responsive to what the Chinese people want. I understand China mostly as a series of anecdotes. When the ADVChina guys were in China they provided lots of stories.

From the link above.
Quote
In the West we often have difficulty understanding or even conceptualising Chinese mores. We tend to see the world in our own terms and are able to describe it only in reference to the principles and philosophical concepts that we are familiar with. Perhaps we forget that the Western perspective is not the only one in the world.

Yeah, those people are really getting a response...their wants and perspectives must have been pleading for repression...

Wish granted!
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on December 19, 2022, 10:40:44 AM

I finished a book a few months ago, The Geography of Thought. Chinese people see and report things differently than Westerners. E.g. a painting or an aquarium.  The Chinese report  details while westerners report the main subject. After lots of experiments and analysis they narrowed it down to mostly what language the subjects learned and what language they learned first if more than one.

From memory:
Western language and culture focuses on nouns, classifications, logic.
Chinese focuses on verbs, interactions, harmony.
Mothers playing with children do so differently In China vs the west.

IMO 50,000 years apart is enough time for genetics to vary.

https://www.amazon.com/Geography-Thought-Asians-Westerners-Differently/dp/0743255356 (https://www.amazon.com/Geography-Thought-Asians-Westerners-Differently/dp/0743255356)
 A “landmark book” (Robert J. Sternberg, president of the American Psychological Association) by one of the world's preeminent psychologists that proves human behavior is not “hard-wired” but a function of culture.

Everyone knows that while different cultures think about the world differently, they use the same equipment for doing their thinking. But what if everyone is wrong?

The Geography of Thought documents Richard Nisbett's groundbreaking international research in cultural psychology and shows that people actually think about—and even see—the world differently because of differing ecologies, social structures, philosophies, and educational systems that date back to ancient Greece and China. As a result, East Asian thought is “holistic”—drawn to the perceptual field as a whole and to relations among objects and events within that field. By contrast, Westerners focus on salient objects or people, use attributes to assign them to categories, and apply rules of formal logic to understand their behavior.

From feng shui to metaphysics, from comparative linguistics to economic history, a gulf separates the children of Aristotle from the descendants of Confucius. At a moment in history when the need for cross-cultural understanding and collaboration have never been more important, The Geography of Thought offers both a map to that gulf and a blueprint for a bridge that will span it.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on December 19, 2022, 11:08:42 AM
Differences in philosophical heritage...nothing new there.

There is value in knowing some about all of them...as Sun Tzu said: 

 “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Where to next?  Differences in the (just two!) sexes?

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef0c390fef995969e9f24a3106fac731c66e4613cf4787c7a26f70958011b69a.gif)H/T-WZ
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 03, 2023, 08:23:59 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/19-senior-experts-chinas-top-academic-bodies-died-december (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/19-senior-experts-chinas-top-academic-bodies-died-december)

Life is cheaper in Communist China...

Unfortunately their business model seems all too popular with other despots...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2023, 08:40:07 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-disturbed-turkeys-support-uyghurs-turkish-minister (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-disturbed-turkeys-support-uyghurs-turkish-minister)

Because they are not Kurds...if they were Kurds then Erdogan and his minions would be giddy over their persecution and extermination at the hands of anybody...

Erdogan is pissed about Sweden hosting Kurdsish "terrorists"...labelled "terrorists" since they've been fighting Turks for their ancestral homeland and to live peacefully in their own land...so Kurds anywhere are hated...

ChiCom's should just tell Erdogan the Uyghurs are controlled by Kurds , eh?   ::pokeineye::

Clown sh*t show world...   ::)
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on January 05, 2023, 10:49:54 AM

When Turkey demanded that Sweden extradite some Kurds I think they were serious.
No Kurds no NATO membership for Sweden.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2023, 11:43:18 AM

When Turkey demanded that Sweden extradite some Kurds I think they were serious.
No Kurds no NATO membership for Sweden.

Hypocrites...position on Kurds no different than Chi-Com's on Ughyurs.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on February 03, 2023, 09:38:02 AM
Uyghurs are targets of harsh treatment by the Chinese Communist Party, which views the ethnic group as inferior to the dominant Han Chinese. Hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs have found themselves subject to forced labor and torture in the concentration camps to get them to pledge loyalty to the Chinese Communist Party.

Two Uyghurs, who now live in the U.S., attended this year's conference and shared their experiences with persecution in interviews with The Christian Post.

Jewher Ilham, who lives in the District and works at the Worker Rights Consortium, an "independent labor rights monitoring investigative nonprofit organization," hasn't heard from her imprisoned father in six years.

"The last time we heard from him, he was held in Urumchi First Prison, and that was six years ago, in 2017," she said.

In a 2019 interview with CP, Ilham revealed that her father was set to teach at Indiana University in the U.S. in 2013 when Chinese authorities detained him before he could board a flight to the U.S. While Ilham was attempting to board the same flight, Chinese officials let her go, thinking that she would be kicked out of the U.S. because of her visa status. Instead, the U.S. government accepted her as a refugee.

While Ilham hasn't heard from her father in six years and doesn't know if he is alive or dead, she provided an account of what she learned at the beginning of his captivity.

"The first few months actually when he was arrested, we learned that he was denied food twice, each time for 10 days. And so he lost over 40 pounds just within a few months, and all his hair turned gray. When he was first arrested and detained, he was locked up with lots of criminals."

After noting that her father was "beaten inside the prison cell," Ilham shared information she received from a former inmate who was locked up in the same prison as her father but was later released.

According to the former prisoner, Ilham's father "was teaching inside the prison" and was tasked with judging the quality of skits or plays put on by groups of prisoners to determine which one most effectively praises the Chinese government.

The former inmate also informed Ilham that her father "had a small TV in his room that plays Chinese propaganda 24/7 with very loud volume and strong light, the light won't shut off. So he basically lives in an environment where it's 24/7 bright and loud and full of noise of only about praising the Chinese Government, all this propaganda [about] how China's great, how [the] Communist Party is great."
https://www.christianpost.com/news/uyghurs-share-chinese-prison-camp-horror-stories-at-irf-summit.html (https://www.christianpost.com/news/uyghurs-share-chinese-prison-camp-horror-stories-at-irf-summit.html)

Sounds lovely.  How nice our puppet President is owned lock stock and barrel by these Communists...

/
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on May 08, 2023, 06:33:45 PM


A very unfavorable look at Chinese intrusive busy body rural police. Karens with a badge.

https://youtu.be/5xTMkOCtTGo

And 82,000 rural administrators enter Rural China! CCP Prepares for massive unemployment & war
China Insights
324K subscribers
232,515 views Premiered May 1, 2023 #Chinainsights
#Chinainsights
Recently, talk about rural affairs has been a hot topic in the Chinese media. There are three key elements to this discussion. They are " retiring forests and restoring farmland", retiring 80 million migrant rural workers, and constructing "a comprehensive rural administrative and law enforcement team," or "Nongguan" for short
Another problem that cannot be ignored is that as long as CCP officials have power, it means they can be corrupt and use it as a cash grab. What kind of chaos and turmoil will happen in rural China under the management of such a large administrative army?
It can be said that when the peasants are fooled around like this, the Communist Party's Red Dynasty is in its last days.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on May 09, 2023, 12:54:56 PM
Submission is virtue, resistance is futile.

(https://billmuehlenberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/assimilation.jpg)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on May 17, 2023, 09:01:00 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-launches-nationwide-program-encourage-people-marry-and-have-more-children (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-launches-nationwide-program-encourage-people-marry-and-have-more-children)

LOL!  Drop the Caili and breed, damnit!

 ::hysterical::

And, uhh...where do Communists get married?  Any city prefecture by some atheist political fop?  Just curious...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on May 21, 2023, 03:08:02 PM
Garland Nixon started a sh*t storm with a sarcastic tweet.

https://twitter.com/GarlandNixon/status/1625945743000276995
Garland Nixon
@GarlandNixon
BREAKING NEWS: White House insiders leak that, when asked if there could be any greater disaster than the neocon Ukraine project, President Biden responded, "wait until you see our plan for the destruction of Taiwan."
1:50 PM · Feb 15, 2023
·
520.8K
 Views

Much later he comments on it after some US politician threatens to blow up TSMC. 59 min.
https://youtu.be/56RfUA_xxWc?t=3556
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on May 22, 2023, 08:02:43 AM
This continued linking of Taiwan to Ukraine seems desperate and weak IMO...it is only clouded by the fact that The Kenyan's puppet is the primary driver behind the Ukraine mess when (as Trump states) negotiating an end should be the goal, the cause of keeping the Chi-Com's from spreading like maggots across Asia is a goal worth pursuing...like preventing the Mahdi Death Cult or Kim-led Norks from nuking the planet...but because of the current American regime even a worthy goal gets thrown into the Neo-Con gutter by people whose only solution to those three nations is total capitulation and retreating into your bunker (aka - the mislabeled "safe space").  Any idiot can attack, and any coward can quit.  Give me viable plans that don't involve sticking our head in the dirt and exposing our ass?
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on May 22, 2023, 12:06:01 PM
This continued linking of Taiwan to Ukraine seems desperate and weak IMO...it is only clouded by the fact that The Kenyan's puppet is the primary driver behind the Ukraine mess when (as Trump states) negotiating an end should be the goal, the cause of keeping the Chi-Com's from spreading like maggots across Asia is a goal worth pursuing...like preventing the Mahdi Death Cult or Kim-led Norks from nuking the planet...but because of the current American regime even a worthy goal gets thrown into the Neo-Con gutter by people whose only solution to those three nations is total capitulation and retreating into your bunker (aka - the mislabeled "safe space").  Any idiot can attack, and any coward can quit.  Give me viable plans that don't involve sticking our head in the dirt and exposing our ass?

What do the people of Taiwan want? They may not want Taiwan destroyed like Ukraine in order to save it. There is a presidential election coming up as I recall.
One analyst said that the ideal of the people of Taiwan is to have a govt like Singapore. I have read that more than one western polling organization said that the CCP/CPC enjoys very high support, much higher than US congress. Even a monarchy can be responsive to what people want.

I could be wrong, but I think that people in China vote for local party officials who in turn vote for higher ups who vote for even higher ups.  It took Xi 30-40 years to work his way up by not screwing up increasingly higher positions all over China. There is corruption that may be worse than the Bidens. There used to be a 2 term limit but they changed that for Xi.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on May 22, 2023, 12:20:55 PM
This continued linking of Taiwan to Ukraine seems desperate and weak IMO...it is only clouded by the fact that The Kenyan's puppet is the primary driver behind the Ukraine mess when (as Trump states) negotiating an end should be the goal, the cause of keeping the Chi-Com's from spreading like maggots across Asia is a goal worth pursuing...like preventing the Mahdi Death Cult or Kim-led Norks from nuking the planet...but because of the current American regime even a worthy goal gets thrown into the Neo-Con gutter by people whose only solution to those three nations is total capitulation and retreating into your bunker (aka - the mislabeled "safe space").  Any idiot can attack, and any coward can quit.  Give me viable plans that don't involve sticking our head in the dirt and exposing our ass?

What do the people of Taiwan want? They may not want Taiwan destroyed like Ukraine in order to save it. There is a presidential election coming up as I recall.
One analyst said that the ideal of the people of Taiwan is to have a govt like Singapore. I have read that more than one western polling organization said that the CCP/CPC enjoys very high support, much higher than US congress. Even a monarchy can be responsive to what people want.

I could be wrong, but I think that people in China vote for local party officials who in turn vote for higher ups who vote for even higher ups.  It took Xi 30-40 years to work his way up by not screwing up increasingly higher positions all over China. There is corruption that may be worse than the Bidens. There used to be a 2 term limit but they changed that for Xi.

Takes two to destroy something...or are crazy people taking about US military by itself rendering the island uninhabitable?  Not buying this Taiwan destruction BS.  And if it takes only a majority (thug rule) why would anybody anywhere resist any tyranny?  Better to die on ones knees than standing for something better?  People want to live under communist rule...here's an idea...move to fricken Communist China...oh no...can't have that...gotta drag those resisters along...throw them into re-education camps...or a mass grave...the people have spoken.

China will not allow a new Singapore...basically what Nationalist Chinese wanted when they fled the Communists...I guess those escapees got it coming to them...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on May 22, 2023, 12:30:24 PM

There is a difference between "result" and "blame." The US long ago agreed that Taiwan is part of China and says so in writing. The US could take actions to provoke China into attacking Taiwan. That would result in destruction of Taiwan and the US would blame China. The result would be the destruction of Taiwan. Taiwan is very important and very close to China and has been for a while. Other countries get a vote on what is important to them, not just the US.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on May 22, 2023, 12:31:05 PM

There is a difference between "result" and "blame." The US long ago agreed that Taiwan is part of China and says so in writing. The US could take actions to provoke China into attacking Taiwan. That would result in destruction of Taiwan and the US would blame China. The result would be the destruction of Taiwan. Taiwan is very important and very close to China and has been for a while. Other countries get a vote on what is important to them, not just the US.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1660682836792291329
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on May 23, 2023, 07:54:22 AM
And the inventor of cultural revolutions...condemning others...that IS rich!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-adventures-natostan-sparks-flying-ibiza-locked-down-bilderberg-lisbon (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-adventures-natostan-sparks-flying-ibiza-locked-down-bilderberg-lisbon)

But Pepe the Buttpuppet of Communist China and Imperial Russia sees his hegemons with thick rose-colored glasses...plus, he could use a fricken bibb too...

What a rank fanboy loser...

Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on May 24, 2023, 10:27:45 PM

I read a book years ago, partly dated as to censorship, The Party. Made me realize I did not understand China. Here is another historical video. Same result. Very interesting to me.

I once looked at the career history of Xi and other members of the 7 member CCP/CPC standing committee. It did not seem to be so bad.

https://youtu.be/lrFQ4U7ie6Y
China´s Forbidden City The Reign of the Concubine | Full Documentary
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2023, 09:35:33 AM
No comedy for you!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/comedian-arrested-beijing-informants-become-norm-again-china-eroding-mutual-trust (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/comedian-arrested-beijing-informants-become-norm-again-china-eroding-mutual-trust)

Communist states and rat-fink scum go hand in hand...

And even commies play economic games...

The Shenzhen Real Estate Intermediary Association on Friday issued the reminder to caution the market, stressing that the so-called practices of "zero down payment" and "negative down payment" violate China's financial and credit policies. It warned local agencies and practitioners to strictly abide by the principle that "houses are for living in, not speculation," calling for review and adjustment of agency management and prohibiting any form of participation in similar practices.
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/chinese-developers-resorting-negative-down-payment-practices (https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/chinese-developers-resorting-negative-down-payment-practices)

LOL, no speculation...that is only for high-ranking party officials!

As for this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/china-announces-plan-put-humans-moon (https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/china-announces-plan-put-humans-moon)

...there goes the neighborhood.

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 02, 2023, 01:22:19 PM


I watched more China history docs. They have lots of history. I think they do not want chaos as it is very destructive and causes starvation and mass death. Most recently Mao.

I never looked at China history before. They were often conquered by outsiders like Mongols but the Mongols adopted Chinese customs.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 05, 2023, 12:37:14 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/tragic-chinese-communist-regime-arrest-hong-kongers-commemorating/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/tragic-chinese-communist-regime-arrest-hong-kongers-commemorating/)

They don't like all history...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 06, 2023, 08:35:32 AM
Ahh, the powerful hand of the communist party dictate...

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-tells-largest-banks-cut-deposit-rates-bid-boost-growth (https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-tells-largest-banks-cut-deposit-rates-bid-boost-growth)

I think another lockdown/beatdown of the populace should solve things to the satisfaction of the Politburo...

Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 06, 2023, 02:58:06 PM

China is weird to me. The culture is weird. The history is weird. The language is weird. According to a heavily footnoted book I read, their language effects the way they think and view the world. Lots of experiments show this. The experiments are reproduceable. If you learn Chinese plus another language the order learned effects the results. . Maybe the genetics are different from the west.

People should not assume that the people on Taiwan are like westerners. I hope people start asking them questions.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 07, 2023, 08:37:26 AM
Ancient waring tribal China is interesting, the several imperial dynasties are interesting...but when Mao and the communists came along and seized all of China and drove the nationalists off the mainland they stopped being interesting to me and became something to oppose...

As for the people of Taiwan IMO most people don't know, want to know or care what they think...and even if we did most people wouldn't believe the majority want to capitulate to communist rule or oppose communist rule...people have already made up their minds...

I've always been willing to reconsider my opinions...but when it comes to totalitarian regimes (communist, fascist or a Mahdi Death Cult) I am steadfastly hostile towards any accommodation or conciliation...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 07, 2023, 11:30:51 AM

'I used to watch lots of video blogs from China. I check  in on some of the critical ones from time to time. IMO Mao was a monster and did a great deal of harm to China. That the CCP/CPC still displays his image creeps me out. I see almost nothing  in Xi to compare to Mao. They use the word "communist" but so did Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot. I think it is good to dig down and look at the mechanics of how they operate as much as possible.

IMO the Taiwanese people want to make money, have stability, law and order, family life.  They might see what is happening in Ukraine and decide they do not want to goad China into attacking them. Taiwan currently trades a lot with China.Disrupting trade would destroy Taiwan.

What is this so called communism in China? BTW I could make a list of negative or suspected negative things about their system of govt.
Title: Re: China
Post by: ToddF on June 07, 2023, 12:19:26 PM
Quote
Taiwan currently trades a lot with China.Disrupting trade would destroy Taiwan.

And that is the main issue.  China doesn't have to attack Taiwan to destroy it.  They just have to stop the flow of trade.  I've heard that personally from business people there.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 08, 2023, 08:00:55 AM
That they haven't done it indicates it might be an over-stated threat...

But if it has put concern in the minds of those susceptible to it then the strategy is successful since it will curb for lack of a better word "extreme" actions injurious to the Communist aims...

Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 08, 2023, 10:00:56 AM

The US govt seems to have only one tool in their tool bag and that is military. The US could provoke an invasion by giving Taiwan nukes. I fear some on the US govt would like a war.

I suspect that the US govt 'knew' that Russia would collapse due to sanctions after they invaded.  So they wanted the war there. I hope they are not optimistic about a war over Taiwan. I am no military expert but I would foresee US carriers sunk. Then again maybe the US govt is not results oriented.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 08, 2023, 10:27:50 AM
I'm sure the other Pacific Rim nations would welcome a Communist invasion of Taiwan and greater military expansion for them in the region...it'd be crazy to think that isn't a good thing...

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 13, 2023, 09:00:12 AM
(https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/30173.jpeg)

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/these-countries-are-expanding-their-nuclear-arsenal (https://www.zerohedge.com/military/these-countries-are-expanding-their-nuclear-arsenal)

Gotta love it...they are all such straight up trustworthy nations only looking for peace and prosperity...

China especially is interested in peace and cooperation...

And they are entitled to catch up to Imperialist America and Russia!

/
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 14, 2023, 02:47:48 PM
I have watched this guy for a while. He hates the CCP.
Here he exposes CCP propaganda through western youtube influencers in Xinjiang.
Lots of stage managed videos with CCP minders in the background.
I have heard so many different views on this region.

I used to watch lots of videos from him and his side kick. My impressions of China are from hundreds of stories like this. There is much more control now than back when he was first there.

https://youtu.be/5ZhgYT6ipZU
Moron EXPOSES Chinese Government by Accident

Here he explains how he was monitored when he arrived in China.
https://youtu.be/EaBg06osKXY
China tries a Honey Trap to Ensnare me

on edit:
She tries to track him down at his US address. Maybe it is a Chinese male with a pretty picture. Then She/he offers to book  hotel room.

 
 
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 14, 2023, 02:54:33 PM
BTW when I post something positive about China it does not mean I do not believe there are lots of bad things and lots of suspect things. Then again what I think is bad may be normal for them. China  and the CCP is opaque.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 15, 2023, 08:16:54 AM
They've infiltrated America through corrupt Biden and Quislings like McConnell et al...they bribe/bully others around the globe...and here we learn (not for the first time...remember how accommodating they were with China and the WuFlu?) the Chi-Com's have the WHO by the short-hairs with this "One Health" crap on the precipice of the WHO's pandemic treaty aka backdoor usurpation of national sovereignty scam! (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/intelligence-analyst-sounds-alarm-ccps-influence-over-who-through-one-health-ideologies)

Fvck the Krain!  We need to kill these sonsofbitches!!!
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 15, 2023, 05:39:27 PM

Yeah. I recall that the EU wanted their guy in as head of WHO but the Chinese won and had their guy, the Paki, the current head, installed.

During the "century of humiliation", the Chinese perfected the art of "barbarian management."
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 15, 2023, 06:07:27 PM
I had these in my feed. I spent way too much time years ago listening to these guys. They  are now very negative on the CCP but I believe their personal stories are honest.
I have heard hundreds. There are lots of western "influencers" or vloggers in China. If they make negative reports they are asked to leave or not allowed back in. They made sure Kissinger and Gen Hague never made negative reports as this would end their visas and the millions they made trading off their contacts in recently opened China to US businesses. The day after Tienanmen square Kissinger wrote an op ed saying the US should not act in haste.

Some vlogger makes positive report on western china. Serpentza notices his minders in the background some geography lessons. He notices the same locals in most videos.
https://youtu.be/5ZhgYT6ipZU
 Moron EXPOSES Chinese Government by Accident
serpentza

He was doing very positive videos on china years ago and went to Inner Mongolia. There was some rabid nationalist he relied on in Bejing who screwed him then sicced the police on hm and his crew. He describes how foreigners have to report where they live/reside every time they change but bigger hotels do it for you. Only certain hotels are allowed to house foreigners. Foreigners have to report to the police within 24 hours of entry and every time they move. He said most police were very nice guys.  Hmmm. I recall a few decades ago the same was true in Germany, according to a prof I had.

https://youtu.be/bq1Vgh_Ux34
 I was Interrogated and Detained by Chinese Special Police - NO BS
serpentza
1.25M subscribers
702K views  2 years ago
I was detained, trailed and harassed by Chinese SWAT, a special police investigator, a Chinese communist party leader and the PLA...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 15, 2023, 06:24:13 PM

One of the guys above taught English in inner Mongolia for a couple years and talks about it and control of the people there.
https://youtu.be/Fuk0KuUPBsc
 China Doesn't Want You To Know About This Place
laowhy86
915K subscribers
1,331,084 views  Nov 13, 2019
Hey Laowinners!

I lived in Inner Mongolia for 2 years, but have traveled extensively through the province for many years. Everyone talks about Tibet and Xinjiang, but Inner Mongolia is a province of China that has a lot of issues with local Mongolian uprisings and no real friendship between them and the Han Chinese mean media is on tight crackdown. In my travels, I slowly uncovered the deep problems that haven't come to light yet due to army and government intervention and censorship. Enjoy my story.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 21, 2023, 10:44:30 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/blatant-provocation-china-lashes-back-after-biden-labels-xi-dictator (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/blatant-provocation-china-lashes-back-after-biden-labels-xi-dictator)

Right word...totally wrong messenger.

Pot calls Kettle black...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 21, 2023, 12:08:38 PM
The ADVChina duo guys are individually serpentza and laowhy86 on youtube. Serpentza is from South Africa and laowhy86 from US. They both taught English in China for years, married Chinese women, and now live in the US. The dared not report too much negative while in China. Now they use old footage and report very negative news and opinions. If they went back they might be disappeared. They have sources back in China.

e.g.
https://youtu.be/AE6bMJMFPao

What Happened After the Protests in China? - The Dark Truth LEAKED
laowhy86

There was protest and the govt ended the lockdowns. The chilling part is around 6 min.
https://youtu.be/AE6bMJMFPao?t=351


The CCP got bad press on Tienanmen square. So this time they gathered data on the protesters. Maybe through cell phone data and/or facial recognition. They have been quietly rounding up the protesters and they are disappeared.
In the video he describes the methods he used where people know of someone who was at the protest and they try to contact them and there is no response.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 21, 2023, 01:07:31 PM
Their whole nation is wired, it is one enormous prison...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on June 21, 2023, 02:05:06 PM
Yes. They adopted AI and tracking software in a big way. I saw that they can track a person walking through a big city automatically. They use facial recognition. They can also use gait analysis. I heard it was against the law to leave home without your cell phone.

I am not defending their actions but historically periods of chaos have caused mass starvation so they err on the side of clamping down. Long ago there was a civil war that was sparked in  part by a religious guy who called himself the "Chinese Jesus."  I read that the CCP will never allow creation of ANY national organization as that might be used to challenge the CCP.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on June 22, 2023, 08:10:43 AM
Bad math IMO...I would rather be free and hungry than enslaved and fat...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on July 18, 2023, 08:20:47 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hong-kong-offers-1m-bounties-dissidents-abroad (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hong-kong-offers-1m-bounties-dissidents-abroad)

This is not difficult to understand...

If your government is playing pattycake with Communists while mouthing support for human rights and freedom they are not for human rights and freedom, they are in lockstep with totalitarianism.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on July 25, 2023, 09:14:52 AM
Ahh, PRC...where the elite disappear unfavored members at will...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-jinpings-vanished-foreign-minister-abruptly-replaced-shake (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-jinpings-vanished-foreign-minister-abruptly-replaced-shake)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on August 03, 2023, 08:03:47 AM
Act of war...

And it seems to dovetail nicely with the CCP thug presence in America (Chi-Com police centers, recall those?)...

https://www.muckraker.com/articles/chinese-invasion-blueprint-exposed/ (https://www.muckraker.com/articles/chinese-invasion-blueprint-exposed/)

...shoot the spies (no uniforms, clearly military...they want to serve the motherland, let them be killed for it)...hold the Chi-Com bastards accountable...arrest, try, convict and execute any US citizen aiding and abetting this treason...

Problem would disappear immediately.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on August 07, 2023, 05:05:55 PM


China has reportedly been not reporting the huge floods in Bejing. The ADVChina guys said people in China are not told of the floods. This CGTN is the mouthpiece of the CCP. They do not even mention the Forbidden City being flooded.



https://news.cgtn.com/news/2023-08-06/Rescue-relief-operations-continue-in-flood-hit-north-northeast-China-1m31ThIaAEM/index.html (https://news.cgtn.com/news/2023-08-06/Rescue-relief-operations-continue-in-flood-hit-north-northeast-China-1m31ThIaAEM/index.html)
Rescue, relief operations continue in flood-hit north, northeast China
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Emergency rescue and relief operations are continuing after torrential rain and widespread flooding brought by Typhoon Doksuri pounded many regions of north and northeast China since late last week.

Six people have been killed and four remain missing after heavy rain battered the city of Shulan in northeast China's Jilin Province, local authorities said Saturday night.

As of Saturday noon, nine reservoirs exceeding flood limits in the city had maintained proper discharge. The current round of rainfall has now basically ended. A total of 18,916 people have been evacuated, with 21 temporary relocation facilities established. Also, rescue forces have restored functionality of 85 electricity and 26 telecommunication facilities.

...
Also, there was a mag 5 earthquake in some city but felt in Bejing.
Chinese are superstitious.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/magnitude-55-earthquake-strikes-northeastern-china-region-gfz-2023-08-05/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/china/magnitude-55-earthquake-strikes-northeastern-china-region-gfz-2023-08-05/)

Twenty-one injured in east China magnitude 5.5 earthquake - state media
Reuters
August 6, 20237:17 AM CDTUpdated a day ago

Aug 5 (Reuters) - Twenty-one people were injured and 126 buildings collapsed after an earthquake of magnitude 5.5 struck the eastern Chinese province of Shandong on Sunday, state broadcaster CCTV reported.

The earthquake, 10 km (6 miles) deep, jolted Pingyuan County of Dezhou City at 02:33 a.m. (1833 GMT on Saturday), according to the China Earthquake Networks Center.
...

Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2023, 08:11:48 AM
The Great Dragon Spirit is troubled by the Xi Politburo's plans for seizing Taiwan...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on August 11, 2023, 09:06:38 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-bail-out-1-trillion-yuan-hidden-lgfv-debt-shifting-it-provinces (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-bail-out-1-trillion-yuan-hidden-lgfv-debt-shifting-it-provinces)

Confucius say, he who spreads hidden debt
probably spreads other unwise things

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on August 14, 2023, 11:33:38 AM

The videos are shocking.
https://youtu.be/PKrInVDqYVQ
 Hit by Consecutive Typhoons and Floods, China’s Largest Grain Region Nearly Wiped Out in One Day
China Observer
259K subscribers
145,053 views  Premiered 20 hours ago  #flood #chinaflood #chinaobserver
Typhoon Doksuri introduced floods that ravaged areas like Beijing, Hebei, and Tianjin, then its circulation continued northward to reach the Northeast region of China. Influenced by the typhoon, several days of heavy rain hit the provinces of Heilongjiang, Liaoning, and Jilin, often referred to as China's "granary". The rivers and reservoirs in these areas saw dramatic rises in water levels, leading to dam breaches. Many at-risk reservoirs, due to years of neglect, not only failed to serve their flood control purpose but also had to release a massive amount of floods to ensure their own safety. This exacerbated the flooding. The raging floods destroyed villages, factories, and other infrastructure, and submerged vast tracts of fertile lands.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on August 15, 2023, 12:17:51 PM
It's not very shocking to see Communists snuff bad news...

Fu Linghui, a spokesman for the NBS, explained it was because the current statistics “need to be improved.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/china-halts-release-youth-unemployment-numbers-after-figures/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/china-halts-release-youth-unemployment-numbers-after-figures/)

FU Fu!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on August 16, 2023, 09:25:26 AM
Oh, man...it just keeps getting more hilariously stupid!

With China's Economy On "Verge Of Collapse", PBOC Central Banker Calls For Helicopter Money
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinas-economy-verge-collapse-pboc-central-banker-calls-helicopter-money (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinas-economy-verge-collapse-pboc-central-banker-calls-helicopter-money)

Looks like that 4T Yuan helicopter drop is about to commence...

 ::hysterical::

TRhat'll add a stable fiat to the BRICS basket!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on August 21, 2023, 05:32:17 PM
In short, this rice/grain producing area was flooded and wiped out. Sad.

https://youtu.be/XBF_-yeLA2k (https://youtu.be/XBF_-yeLA2k)

Here is Heilongjiang province in the video. The Amur river and Russia is the northern border.
(https://www.chinasage.info/maps/Heilongjiang-map.jpg)

I think Harbin is the capital city. I think this is the so called Russian city because of the Russian speaking people.

 China's grain has been devastated by the flood/Millions of People's Rice Bowls are in danger
China Insights
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8,357 views  Aug 20, 2023  #Chinainsights #Chinanews #chinaflood2023
#Chinainsights#Chinanews#chinaflood2023
The flooded area in the video is Wuchang County in Heilongjiang Province. It's located in the northeastern part of China and is known as the "grain warehouse in Northeast China," a region that is well known nationwide. 
Peasants have suffered great damage. Homes built by generations are destroyed, and crops are flooded with no harvest. Look, the floodwaters have inundated the rice paddies. One can only see a sea of water with the tip of the rice crops. Now it’s supposed to be the flowering period. No rice will grow without flowers. In about two months it will be harvesting time, but now with the big flood, the harvest is gone.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on August 22, 2023, 08:14:29 AM
Well, if there are Russian speaking peoples there the Chinese have no choice and must give it to Mother Russia...

I hope those starving Chinese enjoy that helicopter money Xi is going to drop on them that they can spend on, uhh...well not food...maybe escape?

Snort!
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on August 22, 2023, 09:36:15 AM
Well, if there are Russian speaking peoples there the Chinese have no choice and must give it to Mother Russia...

I hope those starving Chinese enjoy that helicopter money Xi is going to drop on them that they can spend on, uhh...well not food...maybe escape?

Snort!

Russia and China settled their border disputes long ago as I recall. I learned of the Russians inside China from the ADVChina guys from there motorcycle rides through China. I trust such videos more than any other source.

I think Mongolia had been part of China at one time but then became independent and China left well enough alone. Not sure if there is anything worth anything in Mongolia. Mostly arid grasslands with maybe one big city where most live.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on August 22, 2023, 09:45:35 AM

https://youtu.be/fbJ7VM46QVs
 We Found White Chinese People in China!
ADVChina
467K subscribers
933,223 views  May 20, 2019
In the northern regions of China near the Russian border there are white Russian Chinese citizens that speak Chinese. We rode all the way up there to find them, and it was one of our most interesting discoveries.

on edit:
This is not the original video from years ago. Not sure what city they were ion on the border.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on August 22, 2023, 09:50:48 AM

https://youtu.be/fHFNA2JTvk0
 Harbin: A Chinese city with a Russian feel
Blondie in China
337K subscribers
421K views  3 years ago
Walking through the centre of Harbin in China's northeast, you'd be forgiven for thinking you were in Russia!

Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on August 22, 2023, 10:39:34 AM


Hmmm
Fast paced history lesson. Russian Chinese border. Chinese city of Harbin is 10 million, more than entire Russian far east.
https://youtu.be/IslzsHmdSho
 Khabarovsk: Russian city on the Chinese border!
Geo Perspective
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158,709 views  Dec 4, 2020
MOSCOW MAP:
https://geoperspective.org/product/mo...

Khabarovsk is a Russian city that is just 30km away from the Chinese border. How did this border come to be? And what is it like for Russians living on so close to their much more populated neighbors?

The Amur river is mostly the border between Russia and China in that region.

I only became aware of this region in trying to find some cities as the musician Alina Gingertail lives there.
Turns out she is a geek who does Renaissance fair kinda stuff in Khabarovsk but she was born in Blagoveshchensk also on the Amur river.

Meanwhile in 2023 Khabarovsk across the river from a larger Chinese city
https://youtu.be/CC8Sfcly8ts?list=PLSUUnrBgjhLL7oCaqMgO3fEPUvrJpKM4g

In 2013 Blagoveshchensk
https://youtu.be/R0hXWJnur_Q
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on August 22, 2023, 12:50:28 PM
Well, if there are Russian speaking peoples there the Chinese have no choice and must give it to Mother Russia...

I hope those starving Chinese enjoy that helicopter money Xi is going to drop on them that they can spend on, uhh...well not food...maybe escape?

Snort!

Russia and China settled their border disputes long ago as I recall. I learned of the Russians inside China from the ADVChina guys from there motorcycle rides through China. I trust such videos more than any other source.

I think Mongolia had been part of China at one time but then became independent and China left well enough alone. Not sure if there is anything worth anything in Mongolia. Mostly arid grasslands with maybe one big city where most live.

 ::hysterical::

Ya, under Soviets?  Snort!  So they did with Ukraine...but when Putin saw those previously agreed to borders no longer benefiting them after the Soviet collapse...

I know I am weird as heck...I demand consistency of principle and action...if a SMO is launched to benefit Russian speaking people and advance the security of Russia...there should be no difference applied for the Russian speaking people in Asia...borders respected by a previous regime should hold no merit for a new regime...the precedent is set.

In fact the Obamian puppet FJB is inconsistent too...should be exploiting the f**k out of this opportunity to reassert the Monroe Doctrine...

This Nicaraguan butthead is acting up again...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/major-threat-america-communist-dictator-nicaragua-authorizes-installation/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/major-threat-america-communist-dictator-nicaragua-authorizes-installation/)

...ought to roll up in that crap (had no idea that commie taco bastard was still alive, how disappointing...) and wipe them out...and Cuba too while we're at it...

But no...Obamian puppet FJB loves commie scum...

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on August 22, 2023, 01:05:34 PM

I have not kept up on any of those Latin American countries. I wish the US would lift sanctions as they use them as an excuse for their socialist mismanagement. Indigo Traveler did a series from Venezuela. A scary place. He had a local body guard and guide. He went through that abandoned partially built high rise full of squatters. No outside skin on the place, or elevators.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on September 09, 2023, 05:36:00 PM

Reasons? recent military purge (including missile force), foreign minister went missing, the economy is bad.
Xi blames his predecessors.

https://youtu.be/WGDDTCULdDk

Xi Jinping Reprimanded By Party Elders Over China's Crisis | Vantage with Palki Sharma
Firstpost
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Xi Jinping Reprimanded By Party Elders Over China's Crisis | Vantage with Palki Sharma

Amid China's economic downturn, military upheaval, and political instability, party elders have reprimanded President Xi Jinping at a Beidaihe meeting.

They warn that continued turmoil could erode public support and threaten the party's rule.

Could this wave of criticism be the reason behind Xi Jinping's absence from the G20 Summit? Palki Sharma reports.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on September 11, 2023, 08:37:12 AM
Probably scheming to have those elders sent to carousel...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on September 11, 2023, 09:50:21 AM

carousel?
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on September 11, 2023, 10:22:27 AM
Logan's Run...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on September 12, 2023, 09:37:33 AM
Witness the CCP eagerly anticipating a nuke detonated over Tokyo...

https://youtu.be/1OUQ9U8zQyg

...that's some sick twisted sh*t right there.

But, Commies...they hate people who aren't Commies and those who don't kiss their crazy asses...

 ::doublebird::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on September 12, 2023, 02:04:49 PM
The ADVChina guys said that the CCP used to show lots of WWII movies with almost cartoonish bad Japs. They used them in part to generate nationalism feelings.

The think the Japanese govt is economically intertwined with China to a great degree. The US govt would love to stir things up.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on September 25, 2023, 06:01:33 PM


Some guy showing how the US is building up military near China. I did not know that Japanese islands extend down to Taiwan. Currently being built up by US and Japan.

https://youtu.be/plHRRFHZ_f0
 Why the US Military is Preparing for War With China
Johnny Harris
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2023, 08:17:25 AM
Yeah, Chi-Com's not recognizing Japanese, Vietnamese or Philippine territory either...such a nice benevolent neighbor...

And for fvck sake, Mageshima is right off the coast of Kyushu...

This YouTuber will really wet his pants to learn where Okinawa is...

 ::ohno::

 ::laughonfloor::

Wake me up when the US military de-woke's itself and starts playing hardball with these little commie bastards by making artificial islands in strategic places and militarizes the mommafracking shizzle out of them...but I suspect I'll be napping until death first...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on September 26, 2023, 10:40:46 AM

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Location_of_the_Ryukyu_Islands.JPG)

I had no idea the islands extended far south and west of Okinawa. US wants to put bases on them to at least monitor the sea traffic.

I knew a USAF guy. He said there is anti US sentiment in Okinawa. I recall that China, by hook or crook, controls Japanese news media, at least in Okinawa.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2023, 12:35:55 PM
Been US air and naval assets on Okinawa since WWII...

Anti-US sentiment?   ::ohno::

More ungrateful louts we've foolishly protected for far too long!  Should just make it the 51st state, problem solved.  I hear annexation is back in style anyway and I hate being left out of the fun.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on September 26, 2023, 02:21:17 PM
Been US air and naval assets on Okinawa since WWII...

Anti-US sentiment?   ::ohno::

More ungrateful louts we've foolishly protected for far too long!  Should just make it the 51st state, problem solved.  I hear annexation is back in style anyway and I hate being left out of the fun.
For some reason there is heavy communist influence in Okinawa. Lots of anti US protests. Maybe it a reaction to heavy US presence on the island. The Chinese fund this I think.

My USAF friend said he went to some war museum in Japan, maybe Hiroshima?  If looks could kill he would have been dead.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on September 27, 2023, 08:59:27 AM
Been US air and naval assets on Okinawa since WWII...

Anti-US sentiment?   ::ohno::

More ungrateful louts we've foolishly protected for far too long!  Should just make it the 51st state, problem solved.  I hear annexation is back in style anyway and I hate being left out of the fun.
For some reason there is heavy communist influence in Okinawa. Lots of anti US protests. Maybe it a reaction to heavy US presence on the island. The Chinese fund this I think.

My USAF friend said he went to some war museum in Japan, maybe Hiroshima?  If looks could kill he would have been dead.

When the Chi-Com's roll in then they will all be in a good position to compare occupation differences, won't that be swell?
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on October 04, 2023, 12:33:13 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12589429/chinese-sailors-trap-yellow-sea.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12589429/chinese-sailors-trap-yellow-sea.html)

Snared by their own trap...

Priceless!

Of course everybody is denying everything...Chi-Coms cannot lose face and Taiwan cannot afford a panic over something as minor as potential nuclear contamination heading their way...

All is well...

 ::bus::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on October 05, 2023, 04:09:51 PM


I get such mixed news on Chinese military. Competent or screw ups?
For Taiwan maybe all they have to do is make lots of missiles.

Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on October 05, 2023, 04:55:12 PM
Mix of both, hear their MBR is not so good...having to compensate by augmenting troops with upgraded body armor to maintain viability in the field, I think their stealth is spotty at best...if they use inferior materials in things like they do in the crap they sell us they will experience issues...how integrated they are I am skeptical of...but they have numbers in personnel and material...and like the Soviets & Mao throwing lots of each at enemies is not anything leadership will lose sleep over...

The move it will be with shotgun blasts of everything...basically meaning lots and lots of collateral damage to life and infrastructure...and if they are successful inherit a big ugly mess...

If US military leaders were smart...oops, almost let that cat out of the bag...no, not doing any favors for them...plus, how smart those woketards are is sketchy at best...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2023, 03:34:58 PM
More Chi-Com weaponizing of space?

No thanks.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-double-size-its-space-station-iss-phased-out (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-double-size-its-space-station-iss-phased-out)

Blast it!
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2023, 09:10:59 AM
The Neo-Keynesian Chi-Com's...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-considers-stimulus-higher-deficit-spending-counter-property-bust (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-considers-stimulus-higher-deficit-spending-counter-property-bust)

 ::hysterical::

B-b-but Communism will do it better!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 13, 2023, 10:00:56 AM
Murderous Chi-Com robots cannot tell the difference between a box and a human...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/industrial-robot-kills-man-south-korean-distribution-center (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/industrial-robot-kills-man-south-korean-distribution-center)

...lucky for them they have so many replacements...   ::)
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on November 15, 2023, 02:15:39 PM

China refused to meet with Biden in China but met with Newsom.
Now Xi goes to California and the first to meet him is Newsom, then Biden.
They know how to manage barbarians.

Years ago I was in Chicago walking around. There was a street blocked off. Chinese flags. Chinese lettering on the buildings. Chinese police cars. Freaked me out until I learned they were shooting a new Transformers movie.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 16, 2023, 08:51:54 AM
Well, you'll see them flying again for real...maybe some others too...

It doesn't take a genius to see how weak corrupt puppet FJB America is...any idiot can see it...

And, no idea if someone thought this was good domestic PR to divert people from the bromance of the official statements the two made to each other in public...or if its the dementia kicking in again...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talks (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talks)

...but it doesn't matter, actions speak louder than words and puppet FJB's actions all benefit Dictator Xi and hurt Americans...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on November 16, 2023, 12:20:49 PM
Well, you'll see them flying again for real...maybe some others too...

It doesn't take a genius to see how weak corrupt puppet FJB America is...any idiot can see it...

And, no idea if someone thought this was good domestic PR to divert people from the bromance of the official statements the two made to each other in public...or if its the dementia kicking in again...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talks (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talks)

...but it doesn't matter, actions speak louder than words and puppet FJB's actions all benefit Dictator Xi and hurt Americans...

Speaking of lack of diplomacy above.

 Nothing has changed my mind about China. They are a nation of merchants, traders, hustlers who are taking over the world. They don't need arms to do it.  Remember when "The business of America is business." Now that might as well be the motto of China. I recall they are the leading trading partner of most of south America. It used to be the US.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 16, 2023, 12:59:34 PM
Well, you'll see them flying again for real...maybe some others too...

It doesn't take a genius to see how weak corrupt puppet FJB America is...any idiot can see it...

And, no idea if someone thought this was good domestic PR to divert people from the bromance of the official statements the two made to each other in public...or if its the dementia kicking in again...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talks (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talks)

...but it doesn't matter, actions speak louder than words and puppet FJB's actions all benefit Dictator Xi and hurt Americans...

Speaking of lack of diplomacy above.

 Nothing has changed my mind about China. They are a nation of merchants, traders, hustlers who are taking over the world. They don't need arms to do it.  Remember when "The business of America is business." Now that might as well be the motto of China. I recall they are the leading trading partner of most of south America. It used to be the US.

They couldn't have gotten there without dollar-chasing Globalists, corrupt politicians and voters who love being treated like sh*t...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on November 16, 2023, 01:45:32 PM
Well, you'll see them flying again for real...maybe some others too...

It doesn't take a genius to see how weak corrupt puppet FJB America is...any idiot can see it...

And, no idea if someone thought this was good domestic PR to divert people from the bromance of the official statements the two made to each other in public...or if its the dementia kicking in again...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talks (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scenes-red-dawn-2023-san-francisco-biden-xi-enter-4-hours-talks)

...but it doesn't matter, actions speak louder than words and puppet FJB's actions all benefit Dictator Xi and hurt Americans...

Speaking of lack of diplomacy above.

 Nothing has changed my mind about China. They are a nation of merchants, traders, hustlers who are taking over the world. They don't need arms to do it.  Remember when "The business of America is business." Now that might as well be the motto of China. I recall they are the leading trading partner of most of south America. It used to be the US.

They couldn't have gotten there without dollar-chasing Globalists, corrupt politicians and voters who love being treated like sh*t...

Yup.
China did not steal US jobs. US investors sold them.
Now it seems that countries should make things. One unsaid lesson of Russian sanctions is that free trade is not all good.

OT
I saw that one of the Baltics was to sanction Russia further by not selling them sewing needles and the like. So another Baltic industry gets hurt. They already lost lots of industry due to sanctions. I recall specialty cheeses and others. I wonder if Russia, China, or Vietnam could figure out how to make such needles?

OT but I heard something via Roku. It said that leaked US embassy cables reported that little was known about Putin and that the oligarchs backed a different guy.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 17, 2023, 08:16:27 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/president-xi-arrives-to-inspect-his-colony-in-the-americas/ (https://babylonbee.com/news/president-xi-arrives-to-inspect-his-colony-in-the-americas/)

Heh, dark humor.

And, in perfect timing...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/applied-materials-plunges-after-doj-probe-report-shipments-china (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/applied-materials-plunges-after-doj-probe-report-shipments-china)

Funny how this happens AFTER the machines were sent to Communist China!  Not really funny though, predictable, it's the backside cleanup of the transaction allowed to happen so corrupt compromised FJB can make good on his 10% for the Big Guy dark deals with scumbags!

Corrupt elections, fraudulent and compromised leaders leads to more and more corruption and fraud...

America was always going to be threatened by corruption...and the sewer of cultural decline stoked by ComIntern operatives and homegrown traitors planted vile seeds that poisoned things all too well to the point that things like morality, ethics and virtue in leaders has been replaced with all 7 of the deadly sins...

 ::upsidedownflag::

PS - Did you see this?  What has Blinken so scared?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1724915618040721902 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1724915618040721902)

He looks like he wants to cry and vomit.

Did Xi himself or a henchling shoot a quiet threat across the table, slip a note of warning?

(https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/111/424/262/353/295/230/original/b00221aeb4d52fb1.jpg)H/T-CTH

The consequences of The Steal could be so nightmarishly underestimated by most American's...   ::outrage::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on November 17, 2023, 01:38:49 PM


one minute clip on Biden and Xi. Funny.
The earlier photo of Biden and Blinken on plane are when Biden earlier said something cringe worthy making Blinken cringe.

"Every single time Biden opens his mouth without a script, a part of Blinken's soul leaves his body." :lolh:

https://youtu.be/U-5AMR0YfZE?t=1957
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Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on November 17, 2023, 02:50:08 PM

The Duran analyses the recent Xi visit. He played hard to get and had strict demands, all met. Clean streets, no protests, only friendly crowds. Barbarian management 101.

https://youtu.be/mqrwwR5dDQI?t=249
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 20, 2023, 08:49:54 AM
When you own a corrupt POS getting your way is not very hard...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/outside-apec-complaints-intimidation-assaults (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/outside-apec-complaints-intimidation-assaults)

...but paid agitators always help...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on November 20, 2023, 11:15:38 AM
When you own a corrupt POS getting your way is not very hard...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/outside-apec-complaints-intimidation-assaults (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/outside-apec-complaints-intimidation-assaults)

...but paid agitators always help...

Tickets for the banquet started at $2,000 each, with several companies shelling out $40,000 to buy eight seats at a table in the ballroom and one at Xi’s table. After Xi’s remarks, attendees provided yet another standing ovation, according to Reuters.

Some executives made no attempt to hide their gushing. On the way into the Hyatt, Bridgewater Associates hedge fund founder Ray Dalio told the Financial Times that he was “excited to have this relationship [with Xi].”
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 20, 2023, 11:38:06 AM
When you own a corrupt POS getting your way is not very hard...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/outside-apec-complaints-intimidation-assaults (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/outside-apec-complaints-intimidation-assaults)

...but paid agitators always help...

Tickets for the banquet started at $2,000 each, with several companies shelling out $40,000 to buy eight seats at a table in the ballroom and one at Xi’s table. After Xi’s remarks, attendees provided yet another standing ovation, according to Reuters.

Some executives made no attempt to hide their gushing. On the way into the Hyatt, Bridgewater Associates hedge fund founder Ray Dalio told the Financial Times that he was “excited to have this relationship [with Xi].”

Yup, excited to look away from slave labor, genocide of minorities, stealing tech and caving to Chi-Com BigBrother rules...to make a buck...exciting...eh?

Ghouls.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 28, 2023, 12:28:06 PM
Oh yeah...immediately defenestrating a human risk to state designs once their usefulness is complete is so Communist China and eminently totalitarian...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/creator-covid-19-vaccine-was-reportedly-thrown-roof/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/creator-covid-19-vaccine-was-reportedly-thrown-roof/)

Chuck Zhou off roof, har har... He no fly...ha..mark as accident...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on November 29, 2023, 01:10:14 PM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/china/family-appeals-for-global-attention-as-chinese-faith-persecution-case-heads-to-trial-5537484?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily&src_src=partner&src_cmp=TheLibertyDaily (https://www.theepochtimes.com/china/family-appeals-for-global-attention-as-chinese-faith-persecution-case-heads-to-trial-5537484?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily&src_src=partner&src_cmp=TheLibertyDaily)

Huh, I guess I was surprised any survivors of the slaughter begun by Zemin were still alive.  Well, looks like the purge is still on...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on December 19, 2023, 08:56:01 AM
I do not see this as a pivot to Washington because the Euro's believe in Washington...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-china-summit-goes-nowhere-and-frustrates-beijings-plans (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-china-summit-goes-nowhere-and-frustrates-beijings-plans)

...I see it as a rare sober recognition that the interests of China are selfish and will always be that way...so needling them on their economic & trade practices, Uyghurs & Taiwan is indicating their patience has worn thin...

Perhaps too late, who knows...if China stays true to form they'll engage in soft bullying...

And XI probably wishes the Euro's were as easy to buy off as The Kenyan's corrupt jello-headed puppet FJB...

(https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/biden-laughing.jpg)

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/18/now-that-blackrock-biden-white-house-have-forced-ev-mandates-china-moves-massive-investment-into-mexico-to-make-evs-for-u-s-market/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/18/now-that-blackrock-biden-white-house-have-forced-ev-mandates-china-moves-massive-investment-into-mexico-to-make-evs-for-u-s-market/)

...the raping of America to enrich its corrupt leadership just keeps rolling on...

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on December 19, 2023, 02:36:48 PM

I keep seeing the same thing around the world. China is a bunch or merchants, traders, and now builders and manufacturers.  The US does not respond by doing those things better than China but by subverting them wherever possible.

I heard that US is working to subvert govts in SE Asia that get too friendly with China. China had some HS rail project lined up and US killed it. US does not seem to bring anything positive to the table to sweeten the pot.



Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on December 19, 2023, 04:26:47 PM
old video clip of Nixon on the Israel lobby
https://t.me/putingers_cat_chat/171841

Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on December 21, 2023, 11:52:37 AM


Had YT on. Some guys said that China and Russia just inked a big deal in the RU far east and named the province. I recognized it as the site of major flooding. Visa free travel both ways. Direct China federal control of the major city Harbin, usually reserved for important cities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbin. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbin.)

RU city is Blagoveshchensk on the Amur river. Birthplace of Alina GingertailI believe. My  latest internet addiction.
From Blagoveshchensk ...2013
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO)

Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on January 08, 2024, 02:44:02 PM

Long. Different take on China. Canadian guy in China. What he reports on about Honk Kong matches what I heard elsewhere including reporting from Michael Yon.  He goes into details on the HK security law passed. Also the HK riots were US financed as many are. I recall that Muslim countries sent fact finding missions into the Uighur regions and did not find what the west reported.


https://youtu.be/BENky0V_qDM
[lowkeysays]https://youtu.be/BENky0V_qDM[/lowkeysays]
 Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Media Lies and the War On China, w/ Daniel Dumbrill
BreakThrough News

542K subscribers
TIME CODES
0:00 Intro
0:57 Who is Daniel Dumbrill?
4:15 What really happened in Hong Kong vs the western media narrative
17:32 How does China view the US leaving Afghanistan?
20:54 Has Daniel ever had trouble with security authorities in China?
23:52 How did Daniel get to Xinjiang? Was it hard to get in?
26:38 What Daniel saw in Xinjiang and how it compares to accusations in the US press
31:41The US “War on Terror” vs legitimate threats countries deal with in their own borders and how it’s different
34:30 Daniel speaks Mandarin!
38:51 What is the terrorism problem in Xinjiang? Who is behind it?
47:47 Is there diversity in China or is there an attempt to impose one culture on people, as Western media claims? 
49:51 The intended impact of US sanctions on Xinjiang
54:56 Who is behind all these wild accusations against China?
1:00:09 The importance of Xinjiang to the Belt and Road Initiative
1:06:15 Daniel responds to his critics
1:16:10 The eradication of extreme poverty in China
1:25:37 Where you can follow Daniel’s work
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 09, 2024, 07:43:12 AM
Wow, shocking....China perfect, US evil incarnate...seems fair...

/

And the perfect little Commies sure like dicking with Taiwan politics...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-sanctions-5-us-defense-firms-message-ahead-taiwan-election (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-sanctions-5-us-defense-firms-message-ahead-taiwan-election)

...I think the twisted panda needs a kick in the berries!

PS - And this POS should have been executed!

https://www.frontpagemag.com/how-does-a-navy-sailor-spying-for-china-come-away-with-only-2-years-in-prison/ (https://www.frontpagemag.com/how-does-a-navy-sailor-spying-for-china-come-away-with-only-2-years-in-prison/)
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on January 09, 2024, 01:48:28 PM
2 years in prison? Geez.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 18, 2024, 10:35:25 AM
It was an easy call I made earlier...the Chi-Com PPT jumps into action...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/futures-rebound-amid-whispers-relief-rally-china-plunge-protection-team-steps (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/futures-rebound-amid-whispers-relief-rally-china-plunge-protection-team-steps)

...state funds to the rescue!

When that has exhausted itself and the reversion to the original mean resumes...they'll move on to Plan I - Invasion of Taiwan!
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 19, 2024, 10:56:47 AM
More on the absolute joy of living in a people's paradise...

A deleted article detailing the torture and death of a young man in police custody in China's northwestern region of Xinjiang offered a picture of the methods typically used by police during interrogations, a former police officer and a rights lawyer told Radio Free Asia in recent interviews.

In 2018, police officers in Xinjiang's Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture detained Sun Renze, the 30-year-old son of a police officer who died on active duty, on suspicion of "picking quarrels and stirring up trouble," according to the Jan. 14 article on the news website Caixin, which cited court documents from a November 2023 trial of eight police officers in connection with Sun's treatment.

On the early morning of Sept. 27, 2018, Sun Renze fell into a coma after being interrogated and tortured for seven hours straight by officers in Ili's Kuitun city, Caixin reported, detailing a litany of torture methods including the being forced to carry an iron chair, electric shocks, mustard, hanging heavy objects from the victim's genitals and waterboarding.

While the article, which focused on the Nov. 6, 2023, trial of eight of the officers involved, was deleted within minutes of appearing on the Caixin website, copies were still available on overseas websites, including China Digital Times.

While it has been increasingly targeted for deletion and censorship under Xi Jinping’s nationwide crackdown on public speech, Caixin nonetheless once made a name for itself as a cutting-edge media organization that published a number of hard-hitting reports on the suppression of press freedom and purges at the Guangzhou-based Southern media group in 2012 and early 2013.

Sun, who is Han Chinese, was taken to the ICU and transferred between "multiple hospitals" after losing consciousness, eventually dying at the age of 30 on Nov. 9, 2018, Caixin reported.

The Kuitun Municipal People's Court found eight Ili police officers, including two named as Wu Xuemin and Liu Xianyong, guilty of "intentional injury," and sentenced them to jail terms ranging from three to 13 years, it said.

‘Murderers!’

Sun's mother and police widow Ren Tingting was present at the trial, crying on a number of occasions during proceedings, and standing up and shouting at the officers: "Murderers! I will never forgive you!" at one point, the report said.

The article said Sun was initially held at the Qapqal Xibe Autonomous County Detention Center, then transferred to a basement room at the Ili traffic police headquarters because officers felt they had made little progress in extracting a confession.

According to the Caixin article, Sun was arrested during a region wide crackdown on criminal gangs, and police were hoping to extract a confession that was precisely worded, in connection with the death of a young woman, Deng Xuefei, who fell from a building during a visit by debt collectors including Sun several years earlier.

Sun was then taken to the "case-handling station" at Huocheng County police, where the officers were asked to take him away again because Sun's screams could be heard in the front-of-house offices.

Sun eventually wound up in the Huocheng County Detention Center, where the officers arranged for an interrogation room without surveillance cameras, the court heard.

The interrogations were so intense that even the officers were exhausted, and asked their bosses for a break on Sept. 26.

But they were told to intensify their efforts to "completely break Sun Renze’s spirit," Caixin reported.

Waterboarding, beatings

The court heard that the interrogation room was one used exclusively by state security police, and was equipped with two surveillance cameras. The detention center director ordered one of the members of staff, surnamed Chai, to shut down the cameras, but Chai kept one of them rolling for seven hours, for fear that the case would come back to bite him, the report said.

"The surveillance video showed that for more than seven hours between 4 p.m. and 11:30 p.m., Sun Renze was waterboarded, both directly and with a towel, more than ten times, with two of the sessions lasting more than 15 minutes at a stretch. He was also forced to carry an iron chair and dumbbells back and forth repeatedly for 40 minutes.

"In the video, when the interrogators were carrying out the waterboarding, we couldn't see Sun Renze's expression and reaction, but we saw the iron frame bed shaking violently for a long time, and we can imagine how much he was suffering," one witness told the court.

Sun's interrogators also slapped him in the face, beat his calves and heels with a white PVC pipe, and administered electric shocks with an old-fashioned telephone, while he was restrained on the bed.

While some of the police officers claimed that they wouldn't typically engage in such torture methods, a former police officer told Radio Free Asia that they were common in Chinese law enforcement.

"Some officers get emotionally involved in interrogations, and they will hit a bit harder," former Zhuzhou city cop Cheng Xiaofeng told RFA Mandarin.

"This kind of water torture can make it hard for suspects to breathe, and it can cause suffocation and death," he said. "It's a harsher method that they use in the north, but we typically don't use it in the south."

According to Cheng, officers are more likely to torture suspects when they are under pressure to crack a case from higher up.

"The higher-ups would say things like 'you have to crack this case in the next week', which would prompt the lower-ranking officers to rush their investigations and start using 'methods'," Cheng said. "This was quite common, and a primary cause [of torture]."

Guo Min, a former deputy director of a police station in Zhuzhou, Hunan, agreed that torture is commonplace in Chinese law enforcement.

"Actually, we would often use such methods when handling cases," Guo told RFA. "Using 'methods' is pretty common when suspects are uncooperative."

He said there has been more of an attempt to prevent the abuse and torture of suspects in run of the mill police work, but political cases had fewer restraints.

"The police are a bit more regulated while handling [regular] criminal cases, but in political cases, they stop at nothing," Guo said.

‘It happens in almost every case’

U.S.-based rights attorney Chen Jiangang, who once exposed the details of the torture of fellow rights lawyer and client Xie Yang, agreed.

"Based on my more than 10 years of experience in handling criminal cases, it is common for the public security to use illegal methods like torture, ill-treatment, beatings and intimidation when handling cases," Chen told RFA in a recent interview. "It happens in almost every case."

But in Chen's view, torture and ill-treatment aren't effective ways of getting a suspect to tell the truth, and will likely just generate miscarriages of justice.

He said it's extremely rare for a case such as the torture of Sun Renze to win any kind of public redress -- the vast majority have no consequences for the perpetrators.

"The law states that video cameras must be switched on during interrogations ... but obviously officers who torture won't be recording it," he said.

"Cases like [Sun's, in which perpetrators are brought to justice] only happen by accident, and the ratio is less than 1 in 10,000," he said. "It's the tip of the iceberg."

"Torture is huge [in China] -- it's a humanitarian disaster," Chen said.

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-torture-01172024134723.html (https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-torture-01172024134723.html)

And remember, this regime is the one demonazis and DeepState despots long to emulate in America...   ::speechless::

Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 22, 2024, 08:43:04 AM
Heh, Chi-Com PPT effort #1 fizzled, time for PPT effort #2!

The rout in China was about to take out key knock-in levels before Beijing's Plunge Protection Team, i.e., the Naitional Team, stepped in. Turnover on a handful of ETFs tracking the CSI 300 Index and the SSE 50 Index jump in afternoon trading, a sign that state-led buying continues as the CSI 300 falls as much as 1.5%.Trading on the China AMC CSI 300 Index ETF was 5.6 billion yuan, the E-Fund CSI 300 ETF was 6.5 billion yuan and Harvest CSI 300 was 6.2b yuan, with all hitting their highest levels on record as of 2:18 p.m. local time.

The intervention was triggered after the CSI 500 Index slipped 2.2% to 4,911 points on Monday, taking it less than 1% away from an earlier estimated threshold that would possibly result in a mass knock-in level for so-called snowball derivatives ties to the gauge. CICC estimated that the average knock-in threshold for the CSI 500 Index is 4,865 points, a breach of which would mean a loss at maturity, and could bring wave of selling in index futures.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/futures-enter-blow-top-tech-led-frenzy-chinas-plunge-protection-team-steps-again (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/futures-enter-blow-top-tech-led-frenzy-chinas-plunge-protection-team-steps-again)

More here - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-stocks-crash-through-snowball-derivatives-trigger-levels-overnight (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-stocks-crash-through-snowball-derivatives-trigger-levels-overnight)

Basically, option derivatives betting one way were poised to be slaughtered and the Chinese stepped in to reverse at best or lessen at worst the natural damage it was heading to...and the stimulus bazooka they talk about is no guarantee and as we saw here with the loose Fed there is a steep price to pay for over-priming...

I still say their best stimulus is invading Taiwan...and it could happen in the next couple months...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on January 22, 2024, 02:13:02 PM

I do not understand such finance stuff at all.
I have been reading headlines that china finance is about to collapse for maybe decades.
Maybe it will tomorrow. Or not.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 23, 2024, 08:18:23 AM
Well, their empty infrastructure projects are legendary...and they've hurt their own domestic manufacturing sector and I am still trying to figure out if it was planned to harm external customers or not but am leaning towards yes...and this mess of late is all getting bailed out...and its effect will be fleeting...so I am sticking to my prediction that their answer to their problems is an invasion of Taiwan...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on January 23, 2024, 05:53:10 PM
The Chinese diaspora in SE Asia controls most commerce and will aid China.
https://youtu.be/b-dpiEwSmB0 (https://youtu.be/b-dpiEwSmB0)
 
WHY China's UNICULTURAL EDGE Terrifies Pentagon Planners



In short, China has an advantage as a nation state over the US multicultural empire.
https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Litigation_Release/Litigation%20Release%20-%20The%20Strategic%20Consequences%20of%20Chinese%20Racism%20%20201301.pdf (https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Litigation_Release/Litigation%20Release%20-%20The%20Strategic%20Consequences%20of%20Chinese%20Racism%20%20201301.pdf)

THE STRATEGIC CONSEQUENCES
OF CHINESE RACISM:
A Strategic Asymmetry for the United States
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 24, 2024, 08:55:00 AM
Well, to be fair...totalitarian states can cut out of society whatever it wants to...duh! 

And it should be no surprise to people to learn the demoscats envy the Chi-Com system...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on January 25, 2024, 08:18:45 AM
WTF is this crap?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-piano-player-threatened-ccp-agents-filming-their-faces-public (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-piano-player-threatened-ccp-agents-filming-their-faces-public)

You a-holes are not in communist China MFer!  What arrogant little bastards!  I would have told them to bugger off...and the Bobbies...really, they're useless...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on February 04, 2024, 09:29:45 PM


https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/46683
Chinese lead home ownership.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on February 05, 2024, 08:49:14 AM
Have you read the links on real estate collapse and loan implosion and eroding standard of living?

They have problems, and their solutions no different than anybody else's - stimulus and war.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on February 05, 2024, 01:39:04 PM
Have you read the links on real estate collapse and loan implosion and eroding standard of living?

They have problems, and their solutions no different than anybody else's - stimulus and war.

Yes but I have been reading headlines like that for a long time. China may fall apart tomorrow or in 100 years.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on February 06, 2024, 08:01:42 AM
Have you read the links on real estate collapse and loan implosion and eroding standard of living?

They have problems, and their solutions no different than anybody else's - stimulus and war.

Yes but I have been reading headlines like that for a long time. China may fall apart tomorrow or in 100 years.

Same here, same in Europe, same a lot of places...just because the big collapse hasn't happened yet doesn't mean all is well...

And I still say in the end the Chi-Coms will see war as their answer...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on February 07, 2024, 09:02:39 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beijing-appoints-capital-markets-veteran-regulatory-chief-amid-stock-meltdown (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beijing-appoints-capital-markets-veteran-regulatory-chief-amid-stock-meltdown)

https://youtu.be/NuAKnbIr6TE (https://youtu.be/NuAKnbIr6TE)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on February 08, 2024, 12:01:54 PM
https://www.frontpagemag.com/chinese-hackers-had-access-to-critical-infrastructure-for-5-years/ (https://www.frontpagemag.com/chinese-hackers-had-access-to-critical-infrastructure-for-5-years/)

Here's an idea...KILL THEM!  Then fix our vulnerabilities, damnit!
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on February 20, 2024, 08:17:40 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ccp-tightens-exit-controls-amid-sharp-increase-citizens-fleeing-china (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ccp-tightens-exit-controls-amid-sharp-increase-citizens-fleeing-china)

Chi-Com's tightening exit controls...yeah...communism is like a prison...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on February 20, 2024, 06:54:10 PM
https://www.frontpagemag.com/chinese-hackers-had-access-to-critical-infrastructure-for-5-years/ (https://www.frontpagemag.com/chinese-hackers-had-access-to-critical-infrastructure-for-5-years/)

Here's an idea...KILL THEM!  Then fix our vulnerabilities, damnit!

The US DOJ went after SpaceX because they only hired US citizens. I am so old I remember when people having relatives behind the Iron Curtain could not get security clearances.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on February 20, 2024, 07:03:25 PM

Plus a few Chinese nationals residing in China were subcontractors working on the OPM federal database with root access to every bit of data. Hugh Hewitt used to work there long ago. He said that included field notes of every top secret clearance investigation. So now the Chinese have the dirt on every such person.


BUT the CIA does not use OPM. This means that in a group of top feds, the one without an OPM record is CIA.

Then of course there was the top secret web site used to communicate with spies around the world. Iran broke the code somehow and shared it with China. Every US spy in China was exposed. Using the words of Garland Nixon, they checked into the Horizontal Hilton.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on February 28, 2024, 08:47:44 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/combatting-slavery-china (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/combatting-slavery-china)

Ahh, forced labor...the nirvana of every totalitarian regime...

Looking forward to Uyghurs to go full-intifada since the CCP already endorsed that violence as totally swell...

 ::pokeineye::   :D
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on March 04, 2024, 08:33:09 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/world-unprepared-fight-against-chinese-disinformation-around-elections-warns-analyst (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/world-unprepared-fight-against-chinese-disinformation-around-elections-warns-analyst)

Gosh I cannot imagine who the Chi-Com's would favor in America?

/

Bonus - I wonder who the corrupt institutions will persecute in the general election...

/
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on March 09, 2024, 06:33:28 PM
I have heard so many different things about this region. I heard that the Chinese were preventing western tourists to hide their genocide. I heard China had allowed tours and inspections by Islamic organizations. I heard the Chinese used slave labor to pick cotton. Then John Deere said it was all mechanized and US govt bans hurt their sales as their equipment to pick cotton was preferred.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/49367

US POLITICIANS  WANT TO STOP AMERICANS FROM VISITING XINJIANG AND SEEING THROUGH WESTERN LIES
Americans visiting Xinjiang can't find any evidence of the "Uyghur genocide" that according to US media is taking place in the region. What they encounter instead is the rich Uyghur culture, they enjoy Uyghur cuisine, music and dance shows, visit mosques where Uyghurs are free to worship, see different ethnic groups living in harmony, shopfronts with Chinese and Uyghur writing, they hear people speaking both languages everywhere they go. And when they return to the US they tell friends and family that what they see or read in the media are blatant lies. Obviously this is causing a headache to peddlers of the "genocide" narrative. 
So a bipartisan group of US legislators is pushing the State Department to escalate its travel advisory to Xinjiang to the highest risk level and make it impossible for travel agencies to offer tours to the region. This level of risk will de fact stop insurance companies from selling travel insurance to tourists and therefore halt US travel companies' work in the region.

In a letter to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken released on Thursday, the co-chairs of the Congressional-Executive Commission on China (CECC) said that “American citizens and permanent residents, companies, and other entities should be warned about the risk of enabling atrocity crimes if they participate in tourism to the XUAR”, referring to the Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region.

The commission’s leaders – Representative Chris Smith, Republican of New Jersey, and Senator Jeff Merkley, Democrat of Oregon – also sent letters to three US travel agencies to stop any tours to the region until conditions change. On their US websites, two of the companies, Wild Frontiers Adventure Travel and Geographic Expeditions, offer trips to Xinjiang cities, including Kashgar, as part of broader “silk road” tours.

The third, Abercrombie & Kent, offered tours to Tacheng in northern Xinjiang on its British website as of last week, but has since removed mention of them from the site. There are no mentions of Xinjiang tours on its US website.

In August 2023, Wild Frontiers – which along with the other two companies was named in a report about international travel agencies operating in Xinjiang by Washington's Uygur Human Rights Project – said it was conducting a “full investigation” of its tours. A company representative from Geographic Expeditions said that sending guests to a destination “is never meant as an endorsement of that government’s policies or practices” and rather an endorsement of travel being “a vital force for good around the globe”. Chinese embassy spokesperson Liu Pengyu said on Thursday that “the door to Xinjiang is always open”.
“We welcome people with no bias from all countries to visit Xinjiang,” he added. @LauraRuHK
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on March 11, 2024, 10:14:13 AM
Kinda like lumping Asian, Latino & light-skinned black murderers as "Caucasian" in crime stats...

The old "hide & lie"...

As opposed to this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-agrees-sign-bill-could-ban-tiktok-if-congress-passes-it (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-agrees-sign-bill-could-ban-tiktok-if-congress-passes-it)

...which is just a pure lie.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on March 15, 2024, 03:56:21 PM


Brian is going into US interference in Thailand and Myanmar to cause problems for China by making messes around them.
US interferes in both govts and supports terrorists in Myanmar who kill anyone in uniform and teachers. He sums up around 30 min. US wants a civil war to disrupt a China built pipeline across Myanmar that allows oil to bypass the straights.

https://youtu.be/myoFh1sL9rw (https://youtu.be/myoFh1sL9rw)
US Uses Thai Proxies to Escalate Crisis in Myanmar, Creating Arc of Chaos on China's Borders

https://www.youtube.com/@TheNewAtlas/search?query=Myanmar (https://www.youtube.com/@TheNewAtlas/search?query=Myanmar)

Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on March 18, 2024, 08:32:39 AM
Snort!

Yeah, China, Thailand & Myanmar are a hot seething cauldron of geopolitical intrigue...

OK, I'll bite...I'll tale Thailand, the got legal weed.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on March 20, 2024, 09:02:23 AM
Of course the NY Slimes is riding on to the aid of the fricken Communist Chinese Masters!

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-york-times-after-years-appeasing-ccp-now-plans-attack-dissidents-us (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-york-times-after-years-appeasing-ccp-now-plans-attack-dissidents-us)

They should be charged with treason for aiding and abetting foreign communist despots in tyranny and oppression.
Title: Re: China
Post by: ToddF on March 20, 2024, 12:20:01 PM
What kind of garbage people would take it upon themselves to go after what is essentially a ballet company?
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on March 22, 2024, 04:12:58 PM


https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/01/10/think-tank-the-us-fleet-could-lose-four-aircraft-carriers-defending-taiwan/?sh=b007a302a371 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/01/10/think-tank-the-us-fleet-could-lose-four-aircraft-carriers-defending-taiwan/?sh=b007a302a371)

Even when the United States and Japan successfully defended Taiwan—as they did in most of CSIS’s 24 simulations—the Navy lost at least two carriers ... and sometimes as many as four.

And it happened fast. “Typically, the United States lost both forward-deployed carriers within the first turn or two,” CSIS analysts Mark Cancian, Matthew Cancian and Eric Heginbotham explained in their summary of the war games. A turn represented 3.5 days of fighting.

While the carriers were getting blasted by Chinese missiles, the Navy’s nuclear-powered attack submarines and the U.S. Air Force’s heavy bombers not only were dodging Chinese attacks for the most part, they also were managing to sink more than enough Chinese ships to win the war.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2024, 09:12:56 AM
These elitists are part of the problem, not the solution...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinas-xi-meets-us-ceos-including-blackstones-schwarzman-bid-restore-confidence (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinas-xi-meets-us-ceos-including-blackstones-schwarzman-bid-restore-confidence)

We need to end cooperation with China and begin focusing at home and seek domination over China...aka do unto them as they do unto us!

And that will only come with a 180 degree change in political leadership and a flushing of DeepState trash.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 01, 2024, 02:13:36 PM
Spengler is pessimistic on US/Western future. Via vox Day.
https://voxday.net/2024/04/01/spengler-and-the-clowns-in-the-bunker/ (https://voxday.net/2024/04/01/spengler-and-the-clowns-in-the-bunker/)
Spengler and the Clowns in the Bunker

David Goldman, the Asia Times columnist formerly known as Spengler, was invited to an elite conclave of Clown Worlders to discuss the current state of their war with Russia. And if he is to be believed, there is no Plan B for Clown World:

Quote
Somewhere last weekend a few dozen former Cabinet members, senior military officers, academics and think tank analysts met to evaluate the world military situation. I can say that I haven’t been so scared since the fall of 1983, when I was a junior contract researcher doing odd jobs for then Special Assistant to the President Norman A Bailey at the National Security Council…

Russia’s economic resilience in the face of supposedly devastating sanctions is only one reflection of a great transformation of world trade. China’s exports to the Global South doubled during the past three years and China now exports more to the South than to developed markets. China’s unprecedented exporting success, in turn, stems from the rapid automation of Chinese industry, which now installs more industrial robots per year than the rest of the world combined.

This is evident, I added, in China’s newfound dominance in the world automotive market but it also has critical military implications. China claims that it has automated plants that can make 1,000 cruise missiles a day—not impossible given that it can manufacture 1,000 EVs a day, or thousands of 5G base stations.

The implication is that China can produce the equivalent of America’s inventory of 4,000 cruise missiles in a week while American defense contractors take years to assemble them by hand.
...

...
https://asiatimes.com/2024/03/america-has-no-ukraine-plan-b-except-more-war/ (https://asiatimes.com/2024/03/america-has-no-ukraine-plan-b-except-more-war/)

https://www.rt.com/news/595211-rheinmetall-eu-nato-protection/ (https://www.rt.com/news/595211-rheinmetall-eu-nato-protection/)
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 01, 2024, 09:23:34 PM
video clip. Geez.

https://t.me/myLordBebo/26953
🇨🇳??🚨 CRAZY: Chinese automated cruise missile production line.

?? The report states that the assembly, when working around the clock, can create up to 1000 rockets per day!
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 02, 2024, 08:25:49 AM
Links never work for me, and not joining...

So, just more stolen US tech?  How good are they?
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 02, 2024, 01:25:34 PM

I am sure China steals everything it can. This is a video clip of a robotic assembly line said to make up to 1000 cruise missiles  per day. They did not steal this as US has nothing close.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 02, 2024, 01:36:42 PM
The start of the clip is said to be the making of the engines of the cruise and anti-ship missiles.


https://youtu.be/fIGrlpWPtfo
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 02, 2024, 04:42:16 PM
Yeah how much of that "capability" is bullsh*t?  1000+ hypersonics a day, yeah uhh, no.

But I do not doubt they are ramping up for war...they always have been...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 02, 2024, 07:29:42 PM
Yeah how much of that "capability" is bullsh*t?  1000+ hypersonics a day, yeah uhh, no.

But I do not doubt they are ramping up for war...they always have been...

I did not hear they were hypersonic. From previous videos the Chinese are rapid adopters of technology like AI and robots.
This video looks like the robot car assembly lines I have seen.

I read they can make lots of ships and are. How well they would fight is an open question. I recall there was some corruption in the rocket forces. Also in the metal used in ship hulls.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 03, 2024, 12:00:13 PM
Yeah how much of that "capability" is bullsh*t?  1000+ hypersonics a day, yeah uhh, no.

But I do not doubt they are ramping up for war...they always have been...

I did not hear they were hypersonic. From previous videos the Chinese are rapid adopters of technology like AI and robots.
This video looks like the robot car assembly lines I have seen.

I read they can make lots of ships and are. How well they would fight is an open question. I recall there was some corruption in the rocket forces. Also in the metal used in ship hulls.

I take a lot of grains of salt with anything coming out of socialist utopias...

I reckon we'll find out when the SHTF...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 03, 2024, 01:30:21 PM

For all I know the video of the rocket  or rocket motor making was an auto plant.
They rapidly adopt tech.
I saw one where they can track  the  movement of people through an entire large city on video with facial recognition or even gait analysis. From one camera to the next. Also through their cell phones. In real life people use smart phones for everything. Like paying. Cash is rarely used or credit cards

The ADVChina guys reported from China for maybe  decade. One guy jay walked. He said it was detected and he was given a fine which was taken from his bank account. One many stories. And that was over 10 years ago.

Here is HS RR map
(https://i.redd.it/o8iql8yiz7r91.png)

Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 04, 2024, 03:01:55 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/janet-yellen-arrives-china-high-stakes-economic-meetings (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/janet-yellen-arrives-china-high-stakes-economic-meetings)

...seems a pointless visit...unless they agree to start buying more of our worthless paper again...or slip some donations to FJB coffers via one the Biden shell companies...
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 04, 2024, 03:29:24 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/janet-yellen-arrives-china-high-stakes-economic-meetings (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/janet-yellen-arrives-china-high-stakes-economic-meetings)

...seems a pointless visit...unless they agree to start buying more of our worthless paper again...or slip some donations to FJB coffers via one the Biden shell companies...

The Chinese will send  no one to meet her and make her take public transport to the meetings.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 04, 2024, 03:36:48 PM


China is building its belt and road. I remember when the US used to build things like  transcontinental RR. Erie Canal. Panama canal.
Dams. It took 30 years and an act of congress to build a new bridge at Stillwater

Now China builds stuff.

The US responds by messing with China since we can no longer build stuff. I read current USN ship building is years behind schedule.

US is backing terrorists to kill Chinese working on Pakistan power plants, dams, and ports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFb5NxuLHdI&t=1115s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFb5NxuLHdI&t=1115s)
 Terrorists Target China-Pakistan Projects & the US Role Backing Separatists
The New Atlas
257K subscribers

   
 
28,457 views  Apr 3, 2024
- China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) is being countered by the United States not through competing infrastructure projects but through a global-spanning campaign of subversion, sabotage, and terrorism;

- The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) has been hit particularly hard by US-backed terrorism for years including open US government efforts to carve off Baluchistan province from Pakistan to deny CPEC a terminal port at Gwadar;

- Between 2011-2012 US government officials openly called for an “independent” Baluchistan while pumping money through the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) into opposition groups including media and so-called “human rights” organizations; 

- US-backed separatists have since regularly targeted Chinese engineers and their Pakistani counterparts and Pakistani security with armed violence;

Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 05, 2024, 07:55:43 AM
Gosh, why do they build stuff, including their military?

WE GIVE THEM OUR MONEY LIKE IDIOTS!!!
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 05, 2024, 01:09:01 PM


China is a bunch of greedy merchants, traders, hustlers and always have been. China spends money to make even  more money. The Us spends money on military to lose money. There was a saying that the Chinese succeed everywhere but China. Now they succeed in China.

I notice that the US spends money to interfere with Chinese projects instead of doing our own projects broad. It has a bad look. The Chinese projects are not charitable but neither was the Panama Canal. At least it had a benefit.
I heard that the US tried to interfere with a Laos HS RR. US is now interfering with a China built oil pipeline across Malaysia and a BRI port in Pakistan by funding separatists.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 08, 2024, 12:31:59 PM

I posted a video of alleged China production of cruise missiles or cru9use missile engines.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1777012736821518677
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKk3qgpXkAErLqT?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 08, 2024, 12:51:33 PM

https://t.me/IntelRepublic/36116
🇨🇳🇷🇺🇺🇸 FOR 1ST TIME, WASHINGTON THREATENS CHINA BANKS WITH SANCTIONS for "supporting Russia" - Biden's Treasury Hag Yellen (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/34548) delivers warning in above video, at same time Russian FM Lavrov is in Beijing (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/36101) on a diplomatic visit.

I stressed that companies, including those in China, must not provide material support for Russia's war, and that they will face significant consequences if they do. Any banks that facilitate significant transactions that channel military or dual-use goods to Russia's defense industrial base exposes themselves to the risk of U.S. sanctions - Yellen.

China responds, declaring it controls export of dual-use goods by law and regulations.

Relevant countries should not denigrate or attack the normal state relations between China and Russia. Cooperation should not be restricted - Chinese Foreign Ministry.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 08, 2024, 01:09:12 PM


https://t.me/EurasianChoice/36483
EU fears China ‘gun cotton’ reliance will harm Ukraine military supplies — FT

European defense contractors are concerned Beijing may threaten their supply of cotton linters - a key ingredient of nitrocellulose, used to make artillery shells and explosives - for geopolitical reasons.

According to a Financial Times report, 70% of Europe’s cotton linten is sourced from China, and Sweden’s leading arms manufacturer Saab fears for the continent’s “ammunition ecosystem.”

The group’s chief Micael Johansson stressed the need to build new supply chains in a “multipolar world” where “not only the Western rules-based order will be present.”
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 12, 2024, 10:00:10 AM
Pouty Panda....no longer able to use business to feed their military machine...forced to fend for themselves...

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/intel-amd-slide-after-beijing-tells-telecoms-phase-out-foreign-chips (https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/intel-amd-slide-after-beijing-tells-telecoms-phase-out-foreign-chips)

...yeah, that newfound "independence" could not happen without reverse-engineering what we stupidly have already sold them...so instead of reverse-engineering solely for military applications, they now have to do it for domestic use...

Yeah, boo fricken hoo...   ::mooning::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 15, 2024, 06:29:42 PM

https://t.me/ZradaXXII/32891
The highest-ranking official who met German Chancellor Olaf Scholz at the airport during a three-day visit to China was the deputy mayor of Chongqing
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 16, 2024, 08:07:31 AM
A real German would have told this minor fop of a bureaucrat to go screw himself and returned to his plane and left...

So sad...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 16, 2024, 08:58:33 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/watch-live-house-subcommittee-reveals-chinese-govt-involvement-americas-fentanyl-crisis (https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/watch-live-house-subcommittee-reveals-chinese-govt-involvement-americas-fentanyl-crisis)

Blah blah blah...and we can't do anything to stop it cause we're ankle-grabbing wusses...blah blah blah...

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 23, 2024, 12:19:54 PM


The threatened China sanctions are not due to Russia trade but fear of alt finance systems to be set up.
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 24, 2024, 03:05:32 PM


I will try to find another source. I had heard this but no source. It was  famous FBI whistle blower. A high class beauty BTW Simon Edmonds. I recall she wrote a book.
In short, the US trained Uighur terrorists and sent them back to China This is the source of the story.

https://t.me/myLordBebo/28959?comment=233573
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 24, 2024, 03:25:13 PM


The threatened China sanctions are not due to Russia trade but fear of alt finance systems to be set up.

Makes no sense...the latter can happen and will happen, nothing can stop it...what they want to stop is Chi-Com feeding of the Russian war machine...which cannot be much easier a task...

Basically the FJB Baboons are flashing their engorged hindquarters in a futile display of butthurt that is going to go nowhere...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 24, 2024, 03:30:20 PM


I will try to find another source. I had heard this but no source. It was  famous FBI whistle blower. A high class beauty BTW Simon Edmonds. I recall she wrote a book.
In short, the US trained Uighur terrorists and sent them back to China This is the source of the story.

https://t.me/myLordBebo/28959?comment=233573

Obviously even if true...that would have been sanctioned by the adjudicated liar and sexual predator Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton aka William Blythe...

And is Sibel really a "whistleblower" or was she hired to blow something else?  Because what does the FBI have to do with an obviously CIA-led kind of operation?

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: China
Post by: patentlymn on April 24, 2024, 03:54:56 PM


I will try to find another source. I had heard this but no source. It was  famous FBI whistle blower. A high class beauty BTW Simon Edmonds. I recall she wrote a book.
In short, the US trained Uighur terrorists and sent them back to China This is the source of the story.

https://t.me/myLordBebo/28959?comment=233573 (https://t.me/myLordBebo/28959?comment=233573)

Obviously even if true...that would have been sanctioned by the adjudicated liar and sexual predator Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton aka William Blythe...

And is Sibel really a "whistleblower" or was she hired to blow something else?  Because what does the FBI have to do with an obviously CIA-led kind of operation?

 ::laughonfloor::

I do not know. I had heard about the Uighurs but no written source and I thought they were paid by Saudis
They were killing govt officials and blowing up govt buildings in western China which triggered the Chinese govt.
I think she worked as a govt translator and heard a lot.

update she was asked to infiltrate a few international groups which turned out to be criminal but somehow involved with US govt.


https://www.amazon.com/Classified-Woman-Sibel-Edmonds-Story/dp/0615602223 (https://www.amazon.com/Classified-Woman-Sibel-Edmonds-Story/dp/0615602223)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/G/01/apparel/rcxgs/tile._CB483369110_.gif)

Title: Re: China
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2024, 08:37:51 AM


I will try to find another source. I had heard this but no source. It was  famous FBI whistle blower. A high class beauty BTW Simon Edmonds. I recall she wrote a book.
In short, the US trained Uighur terrorists and sent them back to China This is the source of the story.

https://t.me/myLordBebo/28959?comment=233573 (https://t.me/myLordBebo/28959?comment=233573)

Obviously even if true...that would have been sanctioned by the adjudicated liar and sexual predator Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton aka William Blythe...

And is Sibel really a "whistleblower" or was she hired to blow something else?  Because what does the FBI have to do with an obviously CIA-led kind of operation?

 ::laughonfloor::

I do not know. I had heard about the Uighurs but no written source and I thought they were paid by Saudis
They were killing govt officials and blowing up govt buildings in western China which triggered the Chinese govt.
I think she worked as a govt translator and heard a lot.

update she was asked to infiltrate a few international groups which turned out to be criminal but somehow involved with US govt.


https://www.amazon.com/Classified-Woman-Sibel-Edmonds-Story/dp/0615602223 (https://www.amazon.com/Classified-Woman-Sibel-Edmonds-Story/dp/0615602223)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/G/01/apparel/rcxgs/tile._CB483369110_.gif)

Like the CIA and the Golden Triangle...

Hard to live off Congressional scraps ya know...thugs gotta fund the thug life...