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Title: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 28, 2023, 02:09:48 PM
I am back to watching video blogger content from Russia. I have watched Bald and Bankrupt before, also Eli from Russia, maybe Britanica guy. Now this Brit Jonny Tickle is much more concise. 

Moscow compared to rest of Russia.

https://youtu.be/ev5NbuO1f7k
Moscow is NOT Russia 15 min

Jonny Tickle
24.9K subscribers

19,672 views  Feb 13, 2019
I’m stood today in Red Square, the Russian symbol, to talk about a topic which comes up so often here. If you ever find yourself with a Russian not from Moscow, and you tell them you visited Russia because you visited the capital, you’re guaranteed to hear one thing - “Moscow is NOT Russia.” This is even a common comment on my youtube videos from provincial Russians who think I have never left Moscow, even though it’s not true.   Why do many Russians believe Moscow, and to a certain extend St Petersburg, is not Russia?

https://youtu.be/sUzcVRC4tK8
THIRD CLASS ON A RUSSIAN TRAIN 4 min

Jonny Tickle
7,229 views Dec 9, 2019
Over my last few transiberian train videos, many of you have asked to see the inside of Russian Trains, so over the next 3 days I’m gonna show you a few clips from inside 3rd, 2nd and 1st class cabins over three different videos. In this video I’m gonna talk you through third class. Let’s take a look!

https://youtu.be/-QgaD3yWl0E
2ND CLASS ON A RUSSIAN TRAIN 3 min

https://youtu.be/KFoAYGkr8MY
FIRST CLASS ON THE TRANS-SIBERIAN 4 min

https://youtu.be/3vDCNzEN3Sw
An Englishman in Khabarovsk

Jonny Tickle
I plan to visit every single oblast, krai and republic in Russia before I leave.

This is number 19: The city of Khabarovsk in Khabarovsk Krai

Today I’m in the city of Khabarovsk. Khabarovsk is the capital of Khabarovsk Krai and is only 30km from China. Khabarovsk is the largest city in the Far East with over 600k people and is the 26th biggest city in Russia.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2023, 08:19:39 AM
Heh, people everywhere resent being dismissed as fly-over country or assumed to be less in any way to big city snobs... 

As for those two cities...if I was forced to choose I would much rather visit St. Petersburg over Moscow...heck, Vladivostok would be better than Moscow IMO...

But I am not going anywhere...

As for trains, 1st class or nothing...

Unless it's Amtrak in which case nothing is a smart option...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 29, 2023, 08:50:39 AM
Heh, people everywhere resent being dismissed as fly-over country or assumed to be less in any way to big city snobs... 

As for those two cities...if I was forced to choose I would much rather visit St. Petersburg over Moscow...heck, Vladivostok would be better than Moscow IMO...

But I am not going anywhere...

As for trains, 1st class or nothing...

Unless it's Amtrak in which case nothing is a smart option...

This is interesting. The criticisms of Moscow are not all true. Amusing. Also, earlier migrants to Moscow look down on more recent arrivals from the same place. Moscow is a nice city from the videos I have seen.
https://youtu.be/19qwCQWOyn0
 The Most HATED City in Russia
Setarko
54.7K subscribers
111,204 views  Jan 4, 2023
There is a common pattern in many European (and not only European) countries - residents of other cities do not like the residents of the capital. And vise versa. The same thing can be found in Russia. Muscovites are considered lazy, arrogant and annoying. But, most importantly, most people outside of Moscow think that our capital lives at their expense. That all the taxes from Russia are collected in Moscow and then are spent on its improvement. Meanwhile, the rest of Russia is drowning in poverty. Let's discuss this problem today - Is Moscow robbing Russia? Or Russia is just an over-centralized country?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 29, 2023, 10:51:25 AM
IMO the short video on Moldova at the end is worth watching. In short, under USSR it was a well kept place. Now it has been looted. That happened to Russia under Yeltsin also. Then Bald goes to the Tranistyria. I found  some more videos, some from others so I may revisit Moldova soon and post. Some video titles dispute Bald's conclusions.

I obtained most of my information on the Ukraine war early through telegram posts.
Especially Mariupol video clips. It is possible they are CGI or actors but the sources are too diverse and I believe them more than any govt. Civilians and army on all sides like to post on social media and it tells something about themselves.

I also believe what I see and hear on many video blogs. I watched Bald and Bankrupt and noticed that sometimes people would say that life was better under USSR. I thought this was crazy, as I 'knew' better. I have never set foot in Russia.

Recently came across some polls or referendums where people wanted to remain in the USSR, but I noticed this was not the result. I just scratched my head. Those people who voted that way may have right?

I came across this long doc from Australia I think. 1984 USSR. It seems real hokey but real. Something good has been lost. I think they reclaimed some of that without the bad. Some of this sounds like propaganda but I notice what they ere pushing. Workers.

https://youtu.be/Hlb-HwxUxSU
 The Human Face of Russia (1984) - society and everyday life in 1980s USSR
Bits of History
13.7K subscribers
479,691 views  Mar 12, 2022  #1980s #Soviet_Union #history
1984 documentary on the USSR.
Produced by Film Australia.

https://youtu.be/wnDxHTaeNX0
Nobody Visits This Country...Find Out Why 16 min
bald and bankrupt
3.85M subscribers
11,404,421 views  Apr 11, 2019
🇲🇩 Moldova is the least visited country in Europe. And so I came to its capital city Kishinev to see why...It did not take long to find the answer. Years of theft and corruption by politicians has left the locals of the country tripping up on broken pavements and walking past abandoned buildings on their way to collect their 40 Euro pensions.

The parts he showed seem orderly? He did not show much inside in Moldova outside this region?
https://youtu.be/5kVnrqBb6y4
This Country Does Not Exist! | Transnistria

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2023, 12:11:28 PM
Yes...so much to miss about the USSR...little/bad food, presumed guilty always, no gun ownership, free train rides to Siberia, pogroms and millions executed...

Ahh, the good 'ol days...

/
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 29, 2023, 03:00:26 PM
Yes...so much to miss about the USSR...little/bad food, presumed guilty always, no gun ownership, free train rides to Siberia, pogroms and millions executed...

Ahh, the good 'ol days...

/

I know all that and a lot more bad stuff, so I was surprised to hear people tell bald they missed the USSR. Recently I saw that Australian doc and then the Bald Moldovan trip. I listened to the old guys talk abut how things had gotten worse since the USSR fell, unless you were rich.

In the USSR theoretically everything belonged to the people, but controlled by the govt. After the collapse somehow almost everything belonged to some oligarchs thanks to the drunk Yeltsin, whom the US helped into office and the west loved. Being looted by the likes of Blackrock, Cargill,  and Soros isn't all that great, even if the corporate press calls it "Democracy" and "Freedom."
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 30, 2023, 10:17:38 AM
My opinions are just opinions, not God's truth revealed through me.
If think and say that X happened that is separate from the opinion as to whether that was morally right or wrong and the  opinions as to whether that advanced American interests.

I think that US policy makers look on the world like a board game and the goal is to weaken other countries that are getting too strong in their areas. There are other goals. One way is to exploit existing disputes or grievances by funding them, arming them, perhaps getting involved militarily. IMO US funded NAZIs in Poland and Ukraine 1946-1953 to weaken USSR. 400K dead on all sides. IMO Turkey and UAE(?) started the Syrian civil war and the US piled on a year later with money and arms. US funding went from a conspiracy theory, to funding 'moderate rebels', to a CIA complaint that they had to spend too much of their budget.  I think the US funded the Chechen wars to weaken Russia.

IMO Russia wanted to get along with the west, even join NATO,  but that would lessen the reason for NATO to exist.

The 'geniuses' in DC knew that if Kiev attacked the Donbass Russia would go to war. They believed  that the resulting sanctions would destroy the Russian economy, causing regime change, allowing US and other globalists to strip Russia bare as they started to do in the 1990s. The US wanted the war and acted to make it happen. It did not go according to plan. Russia did a pre-emptive strike and their economy did fine. Soros wrote a 2013 paper proposing using US tech with eastern European manpower to reduce NATO body bags. Here we are.

I watch some videos like I read cases studies in anthropology class long ago. Recently this doc about the human face of USSR. Hmmm. They give pride of place to 'workers.' The material wealth or lack of it is on display in the video. BTW the communal living places (shared kitchens and bathrooms) still exist in St. Petersburg as a cheap place to live.

I watched the  bald and bankrupt video from Moldova. Bald talked to locals who told him things were much better under USSR, unless you were rich. The WEF "young leader" program is well known now. There are other similar programs. The president of Moldova was in one, and went to university in US as I recall. IMO She sold out her country. US would  love to start a civil war there over Transnistria.

What surprised me was how willing the EU leaders were to sell out their citizens to US interests. IF there was a Ukraine war THEN there would be millions of refugees. Therefore, implement Minsk accords to prevent the war. IF Germany stops using Russian nat gas THEN their economy would be destroyed. Therefore don't do that. Germany used to sell lots of stuff, like BMWs, to Russia. Not any more. Now China does. Newer taxis in Moscow are Chinese.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on November 07, 2023, 10:12:05 AM
Easy to be Czar for life when no opposition is ever allowed to reach a threatening level...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters)

...the model the DemoNazis here have fully embraced...and the Cucks have allowed...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Syzygy on November 07, 2023, 03:35:37 PM
Easy to be Czar for life when no opposition is ever allowed to reach a threatening level...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters)

...the model the DemoNazis here have fully embraced...and the Cucks have allowed...

I'm sure Pat is very pleased with this.  Just like "the good ol' days" in the USSR.   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2023, 09:21:11 AM
Easy to be Czar for life when no opposition is ever allowed to reach a threatening level...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters)

...the model the DemoNazis here have fully embraced...and the Cucks have allowed...

I'm sure Pat is very pleased with this.  Just like "the good ol' days" in the USSR.   ::hysterical::

Many will be.  I've never denied Putin is popular among many Russians and admired by many foreigners...I just bristle at any difference between their elite overlords and ours or anybody's for they are the norm not the exception...and suppressing political opposition is not a hallmark of ethical or moral government and certainly not a hallmark of a legitimate electoral system.

As for foreign admirers go not many go ex pat to Russia...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2023, 09:27:54 AM
In others news...

Russia exiting the 1990 Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) treaty has resulted in NATO announcing they will kick it aside on December 7th.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/landmark-treaty-conventional-armed-forces-europe-collapses-after-russia-then-nato (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/landmark-treaty-conventional-armed-forces-europe-collapses-after-russia-then-nato)

Another pretty gift to NATO to keep their band together.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on November 08, 2023, 11:54:58 AM


From your link above another story

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-rejects-biden-request-3-day-pause-gaza-war-idf-tightens-noose (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-rejects-biden-request-3-day-pause-gaza-war-idf-tightens-noose)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 12, 2023, 08:23:00 AM
"Is there a single place where the US intervened with military force, where life has become better? I think you know the answer,"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum)

Change "US" to "Russia" and ask some folks...

That fragile Rus ego never deviates...Rus are exactly like NeoCons/Startists/Globalists...incapable of ever admitting error in anything.

Whatever...let us see how well your polycentric world thrives, avoids conflict and makes all equally happy...   ::pokeineye::

But one thing is certain...they'll never let go of their bogeyman...which ironically and not surprisingly feeds their bogeyman to return the favor...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on December 12, 2023, 03:36:22 PM
"Is there a single place where the US intervened with military force, where life has become better? I think you know the answer,"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum)

Change "US" to "Russia" and ask some folks...

That fragile Rus ego never deviates...Rus are exactly like NeoCons/Startists/Globalists...incapable of ever admitting error in anything.

Whatever...let us see how well your polycentric world thrives, avoids conflict and makes all equally happy...   ::pokeineye::

But one thing is certain...they'll never let go of their bogeyman...which ironically and not surprisingly feeds their bogeyman to return the favor...

I recall 7 regime changes planned in 5 years. Did any of them make the place better? I recall the "Grand Chessboard" and similar US strategies were to harm other countries to make the US relatively stronger, not to make any better.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 13, 2023, 08:51:40 AM
"Is there a single place where the US intervened with military force, where life has become better? I think you know the answer,"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum)

Change "US" to "Russia" and ask some folks...

That fragile Rus ego never deviates...Rus are exactly like NeoCons/Startists/Globalists...incapable of ever admitting error in anything.

Whatever...let us see how well your polycentric world thrives, avoids conflict and makes all equally happy...   ::pokeineye::

But one thing is certain...they'll never let go of their bogeyman...which ironically and not surprisingly feeds their bogeyman to return the favor...

I recall 7 regime changes planned in 5 years. Did any of them make the place better? I recall the "Grand Chessboard" and similar US strategies were to harm other countries to make the US relatively stronger, not to make any better.

Not defending Zbigniew Brzezinski or his schemes...but would he have even been relevant if not for the Fascist & Communist rape, pillage and slaughter in Poland in WWII and his fortunate escape to the West?

Ironically, his birthplace of Berezhany in modern day Ukraine but then under Polish rule following long Habsburg domination...the region was predominately Western Ukrainian/Ruthenian peasants and in Habsburg times the Poles were their middlemen administrators...his birthplace was probably less than 40 miles away from my paternal Ruthenian ancestral home...his escape from the area was a little more comfortable and easy than my ancestor's egress...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 28, 2023, 02:51:22 PM
Hilarious...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/25/president-alexander-lukashenko-states-russian-tactical-nuclear-weapons-now-staged-in-belarus/

Russian nukes in Belarus give Lukashenko a (middle) leg tingle...when in fact he is the new West German pawn in this new era of cold war conflict...

What an idiot.

Well, whatever...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 02, 2024, 01:40:59 PM

Agent Nesty she is cute and funny. BTW there were low level hoodlums in Russia that wore Adidas track suits,, squatted,  and stole from people.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sOyExKt879s?feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sOyExKt879s?feature=share)

Another cute one

https://youtu.be/Z8V_iPcVuKs (https://youtu.be/Z8V_iPcVuKs)

https://youtu.be/iNaEaqr8Owc (https://youtu.be/iNaEaqr8Owc)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 03, 2024, 08:01:37 AM
Must be stuck in the Northern latitudes...girl is damn near pale.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 03, 2024, 01:52:47 PM

Yeah. Many Russian girls do not get much sun. Here is a fan slide show of Alina Gingertail. Very pale. Lives in Khabarovsk on Amur River north of Vladivostok. Not a natural redhead btw.
https://youtu.be/OHOvVXev-WE

reminds me of a fan convention in which red head  Felicia day was on a panel and some (rude) person asked if the the carpet matched the drapes. she did not understand so her fellow panelist whispered to  her. she was very shocked embarrassed and pissed.

Here is who she is. She was ut austin valedictorian in violin and math and a big gamer. cute video.

https://youtu.be/xMrN3Rh55uM
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 03, 2024, 01:58:36 PM

i found the clip
https://youtu.be/GbFjePdOpK8
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 21, 2024, 09:33:28 PM

I like this guy. He grew up in Ukraine maybe first a village then Kiev. He taught in a summer camp in US MI teaching photography then moved here. He has lots of factual videos on growing up there. Here he makes a long requested video. How was the 1980 US hockey victory over USSR covered?

In short, covered in brief on the last page of a USSR sports newspaper. In the US he watched the Miracle on Ice. He was rutting for the USSR and his US  kids got real pissed at him which he found funny.

Everybody remembers where they were during that hockey game, correct? I do. Madison WI was shut down during that game. No one out on the streets. Much later, I heard the USSR goalie moved to Minneapolis. I recall he failed to catch the last goal. Herb, the coach died in a single car accident, likely asleep from sleep apnea.

Not worth watching IMO.
https://youtu.be/ylBeEdyHcYg
 Soviet Reaction to the "Miracle On Ice" in Lake Placid #olympics

also
https://youtu.be/KUfEKDG0s4A
New Zealand Girl Reacts to the MIRACLE - THE GREATEST AMERICAN SPORTS MOMENT OF ALL TIME
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 22, 2024, 08:26:24 AM
Well, my father rooting for the Soviets would be like my father embracing Satan...just not going to happen...we were both raised and trained to kill Soviets and all commie rat bastards...somebody pull a stunt like that in my family gets excommunicated!

It also looks like a cautionary tale about being very careful who you let into the country to me...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 22, 2024, 02:08:35 PM


The Ukr ex pat, current US citizen watched the movie version(?) of the game after he moved here and had US kids.
He is not pro USSR in politics but was cheering on the home team when they made a goal which pissed off his kids.

He makes videos describing everyday life growing  up and I like such material. He did one long video on Soviet military. If you went to certain tech universities you were exempt from conscription but had to pick them carefully. If you failed that school's entrance exam you got drafted the next day and  served then 2 years. Now maybe one. I think they had something like ROTC at those schools.

He said people brought their own food to hospitals. He suspects that the staff stole some food and the good food was diluted or reduced in portions. He had some eye surgery as his eyesight was terrible. I then remembered that Russians/USSR invented Lasik.

The best jobs were those that allowed you to have access to scarce goods like a butcher, retail, cook, or even waiter. In those pre internet days certain jobs allowed you to network and gather scarce information by talking to people. E.g. cab driver. That also allowed access to scarce goods.  BTW Putin worked as a cab driver for a while in st. Pete as I recall.

He describes the good and the bad but some people get all butt hurt if he says anything positive about growing up in USSR.m
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 23, 2024, 08:14:28 AM
At the very least idiot ought to know his audience...Americans don't root for Soviets no matter the excuse...those who do get their asses kicked, should have kept that crap bottled up...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 23, 2024, 05:04:34 PM
In short, I saw a headline for a large protest in Russia and thought maybe anti war? So I clicked. Some popular local guy got a long sentence for allegedly inciting violence against immigrants from central aisa. IMO not worth watching the video.



There is this Russian YT guy, maybe left Russia in protest against the ukr invasion? Depressing guy so I do not watch much. All he does is piss and moan.  I did not watch the whole video.
He came in my YT feed so i clicked. There is some protest quite large. I know that RU has laws against inciting religious or ethnic hatred.The protests were against a heavy sentence for a popular local guy.
Here is the BBC version.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68029262 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68029262)
...
Bashkir singer Altynai Valitov was visited by local authorities in Ufa after he put out a call on Instagram for protests to take place both in Bashkortostan and elsewhere in Russia.

Fail Alsynov was convicted of insulting migrants at a demonstration against plans to mine for gold, but supporters said it was delayed revenge for his activism in preventing soda mining in what locals consider a sacred place.

He is said to have called Central Asians and Caucasians, who make up most of Russia's migrant population, "black people", considered a derogatory term in Russian.

But he insists the words he used in the Bashkir language mean "poor people" and were mistranslated into Russian. He intends to appeal against the verdict.

Alsynov has also in the past criticised military mobilisation in the region as "genocide" of the Bashkir people, a Turkic race closely related to the Tatars which inhabits the southern Ural mountains.

https://youtu.be/ehqlcC_O32U (https://youtu.be/ehqlcC_O32U)

RUSSIAN PROVINCE BASHKORTOSTAN IS PROTESTING | Breaking News!
INSIDE RUSSIA
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 23, 2024, 05:17:13 PM

Have the ex Ukr guy tells some jokes.

A local artist gets his art work inspected by culture/censorship board. The painting has 3 naked black men, one with a white penis.  The boards asks why 3 black men instead of Russian proletarians. Artist says these are 3 white coal miners about to take a shower before going home.

So why the white penis? That miner went home for lunch.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 24, 2024, 08:51:05 AM
Da!   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 31, 2024, 08:52:26 AM
FWIW - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/massive-new-russian-natural-gas-pipeline-china-faces-delays (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/massive-new-russian-natural-gas-pipeline-china-faces-delays)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 31, 2024, 04:10:52 PM

Reminds me of an older story. USSR or RU was building a gas pipeline but did not have the SW to control the stations. So they decided to steal the SW from a US company. CIA found out and planted flaky SW which was stolen. The SW would intermittently stress the system.  Finally there was a major explosion maybe in Siberia. Seen from space.

So this SW was a little like the stuxnet SW but not as clever.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 01, 2024, 01:09:32 PM

I recently learned from various sources that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was mostly a fraud who made things up. He greatly exaggerated the number of people in the Gulags. His wife said he just made things up. Russians mostly despised him. After 1991 the records became available but he refused to revise anything pointing out that the Gulag books were fiction, as indicated in the title.

He was a useful idiot for the west.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 01, 2024, 02:46:20 PM
Sure, commies kept good records of who went to gulag, who perished...who was executed in the woods...totally believable. 

As always what number makes it right or wrong in the end?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 07, 2024, 08:58:09 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions)

Well, ain't that nice?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 07, 2024, 04:07:11 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions)

Well, ain't that nice?

I do not get that. Russia froze NK assets?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 07, 2024, 04:17:19 PM
Sure, commies kept good records of who went to gulag, who perished...who was executed in the woods...totally believable. 

As always what number makes it right or wrong in the end?

I think than they did keep good records. They had some sort of legal fetish. The trials were not fair or just but they checked off all the boxes.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 08, 2024, 08:04:06 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions)

Well, ain't that nice?

I do not get that. Russia froze NK assets?

In return for missiles and ammo...   ;)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 08, 2024, 08:05:36 AM
Sure, commies kept good records of who went to gulag, who perished...who was executed in the woods...totally believable. 

As always what number makes it right or wrong in the end?

I think than they did keep good records. They had some sort of legal fetish. The trials were not fair or just but they checked off all the boxes.

So the right number is 1:1 with the number star-chambered and guilty...

Good to know
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 08, 2024, 02:44:28 PM
I am slowly reading a book on life and terror under Stalin. A little too detailed for me. Year by year trends. There were plots against Stalin which sent his paranoia into overdrive.  Lots of evidence going both ways that he was a monster and lenient. The worst was during early 30s during collectivization. The civil war took a toll. He compared the Russians to the Germans who were mostly in favor of NAZIs who did not rely of terror mostly as they did not have to.

https://www.amazon.com/Life-Terror-Stalins-Russia-1934-1941/dp/0300074425 (https://www.amazon.com/Life-Terror-Stalins-Russia-1934-1941/dp/0300074425)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 09, 2024, 09:33:38 AM
Ever see this?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/)

 ;D
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 09, 2024, 01:25:01 PM
Ever see this?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/)

 ;D

No. Is it good? Is this one the comedy I heard about?

About the book I am reading.
Chapt 3 starts the better material around page 59. In part of a table. Pct targeted for exile /death in 1937 Moscow oblast 0.25/0.041 Leningrad oblast 0.15/0.059 in 1937. Other oblasts were mostly  less.
Then a table 1934-1938.   for all crimes, counter revolutionary crimes, convictions , executions.
For 1937-1928 respectively 1.6M, 1.4 M, 1.3M, 700K.

I think 1930-31 are not in table as part of collectivization. 1934-1938 have increasing deaths. In part maybe due to NAZI intrigue fingering innocent politicians and military.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 09, 2024, 04:40:31 PM
Ever see this?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/)

 ;D

No. Is it good? Is this one the comedy I heard about?

About the book I am reading.
Chapt 3 starts the better material around page 59. In part of a table. Pct targeted for exile /death in 1937 Moscow oblast 0.25/0.041 Leningrad oblast 0.15/0.059 in 1937. Other oblasts were mostly  less.
Then a table 1934-1938.   for all crimes, counter revolutionary crimes, convictions , executions.
For 1937-1928 respectively 1.6M, 1.4 M, 1.3M, 700K.

I think 1930-31 are not in table as part of collectivization. 1934-1938 have increasing deaths. In part maybe due to NAZI intrigue fingering innocent politicians and military.

I thought it was hilarious...and in some respects totally believable...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 12, 2024, 12:15:32 PM
I have this on. Sachs says Russia fear/hatred goes back 1000 years before 1917. Alexander says you could take UK editorials from 1815 through the Crimean war and publish them today and they would seem current. Anti Russia. I am just trying to figure out this whole Russophobia thing which goes back a long way. In short, Russia is big and scary. Alexander says London is the center of Russophobia. In 1800s Russia was said to be about to invade India. Not realistic but who cares.

https://youtu.be/eJNg5OwM6VU
 Putin's message to the west w/ Jeffrey Sachs (Live)
The Duran

update
Sachs is on for 30 minutes only. Good stuff. How MSM and NYT refuse to do reporting.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 12, 2024, 03:42:17 PM
Then why were so many Brits Russia-loving red commie traitors like Kim Philby & Guy Burgess (there were lots others)?

Snort!

Lots of red-lovers here too from Wilson on...FDR's man Harry Hopkins was a red.

Dem's after the Soviet fall wept about losing their soulmates...and now they are as totalitarian as any commie or fascist.

Also, Russia never helps itself when later rulers failed to stick with Catherine the Great's pivot West...the tortured Russian soul has always struggled with their identity and if they were East or West...there is always a glum everybody is out to get us cloud in their psyche they have never been able to shake...that and their indifference to strong-handed central leadership...Putin is Czar in all but name...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 13, 2024, 12:01:59 PM
I have a book to read on Russophobia. The subtitle indicates it might go back to the Catholic vs Orthodox split. Indra-religious wars are often nasty. .
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 13, 2024, 03:35:19 PM
Ahh, The Great Schism...

Many latter day armchair historians like to think the theological issues were secondary and the main driven was East-West hatred...but that is latter day socialist dreck (culminating in present day woke garbage) that seeks to promote cultural differences like socialists all like to do as a means of legitimizing their fringe beliefs and mainstreaming their powerbase...

It was not a Pope Leo IX vs Patriarch of Constantinople (or See of Constantinople) Michael Cerularius cage match.

Things came to a head in 1054 after a series of councils discussing theological issues and the primacy of the Bishops of the Churches.

A big point of contention was over the Trinity...the Latin use of filoque in the Nicene Creed for from whence the Holy Spirit flows...and it seems kind of odd for a "Christian" to demote Jesus as the Eastern Orthodox did, but it was a big deal to these early church leaders...as was using unleavened bread in Eucharist...and relatively lesser differences on original sin etc...and yes, governance.

The Bishop of Constantinople has an honorary title of First Among Equals but in Orthodox structure the Bishops of the key churches (and in their view) including the Bishop of Rome (aka The Pope) are all equals...(and interestingly the honorific First Among Equals was also used by the East for the Bishop of Rome pre-Schism)...the 5 Patriarchs were - Rome, Constantinople, Antioch, Jerusalem & Alexandria...  The East saw St.Peter as the first Bishop of Antioch, at this time not even the West saw him as the First Bishop of Rome...but around the 3rd century it became popular in the West to see him as First Pope, and many see the scripture where Jesus says to Peter he shall be the rock upon which he would build his church and the fact that he was martyred in Rome as support of that even if the title had not yet existed.  It also shows the centralized versus decentralized view of East and West at the time. 

Anyway, excommunications ensued both directions, each went their separate ways and not until the 4th Crusade did some ill-advised morons from Europe see an opportunity to plunder the wealth of the Eastern Empire than be slaughtered in the dust of the Holy Land fighting howling Muslim hordes...

If some are butthurt over that, well...that's their problem.  Vatican II saw reconciliation and the lifting of each others excommunication decrees.  Everybody is getting along now...nobody needs to be an asshole.  Well, Z...but that's his fricken problem, not mine/ours/yours.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 13, 2024, 04:24:35 PM

How do you know all of the above? Why and when did you learn that?
I am only trying to figure out the Russia hatred that seems to have started long ago.
e.g. Why Russiagate? I cannot think of a time when Russians were not the boogeymen.

Russia did occupy much land in driving the Axis back into Germany but that does not seem bad by historical standards plus they left. Romans would have enslaved them and plowed salt into the soil. Mongols would have killed them all. Germans had the "special groups" to hunt down civilians, not the USSR. I will try to learn why the USSR fell apart. Yeah USSR troops  got permission to rape in Berlin for a while but at least the victims  lived.

 I get the feeling it was political suicide by the USSR leaders. I am only now learning how life fell apart after the USSR collapse. Gorbachev is viewed as a traitor. Yeltsin a drunk.

I get the impression that many of the occupied lands before and after WWII were money losers for USSR/Russia. I think that the Baltics really tanked after USSR fell rather than improve, at least for a couple decades. Plus they lost a lot of people. Why are they so nasty now? Maybe they get their time in the limelight before their leaders join NGOs.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 13, 2024, 04:37:05 PM

Quote
A big point of contention was over the Trinity...the Latin use of filoque in the Nicene Creed for from whence the Holy Spirit flows...and it seems kind of odd for a "Christian" to demote Jesus as the Eastern Orthodox did, but it was a big deal to these early church leaders...as was using unleavened bread in Eucharist...and relatively lesser differences on original sin etc...and yes, governance.

Reminds me. Long ago a Russian exchange student pointed out a painting in a book. Some famous battle where people who crossed themselves with 2 finers fought people who used 3 fingers. She said it was more complicated than that and involved som,el forced change in liturgy.

A while back I watched another video blog of a visit to an isolated village in Siberia where the "Old Believers" lived. One of the factions. I saw the painting again.

https://youtu.be/6sdbf2XZJuU
 Religious Refugees Who Opposed Moscow and fled to Siberia. What happened to them?
Real Reporter

180K subscribers
 
 
370,008 views  Jul 11, 2023
Agafia Lykova is perhaps the most famous hermit living in the Siberian wilderness. Not everyone knows that she's a descendant of the Old Believers, Russian Orthodox Christians who fled to this frontier 300 years ago fearing repression and persecution from Moscow's official Church. Today, Old Believers are still found in secluded Siberian communities, where they maintain peculiar traditions inherited from their ancestors.

https://orthochristian.com/60716.html
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 14, 2024, 12:18:48 PM

Tucker asked Putin about the jailed WSJ journalist. Putin said that they had proof he was spying, received secret documents,  and was dealing with it through channels.

Ritter reminded me of something. The CIA said they would not rule out using journalists as spies. This pissed off journalists as they said it marked them as possible spies. Ritter guessed that given the location, Yekaterinburg, the guy was trying to find numbers of missile production and stockpiles.

What is Yekaterinburg Russia known for?
Today, Yekaterinburg is primarily known both as a center of heavy industry and steel-making, the Russian equivalent of Pittsburgh, and as a major freight transportation hub.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 14, 2024, 02:54:08 PM
Well, he should quit being a pussy then and just put him up against a wall and shoot him then...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 14, 2024, 04:33:27 PM
Well, he should quit being a pussy then and just put him up against a wall and shoot him then...

Naw. They swap them now. Maybe worse if a traitor. But this guy is American. I heard they want to swap him for some assassin who is in EU custody. I think they want to try him for the crime of killing some Russian in EU.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 14, 2024, 04:37:09 PM

Some cute RU propaganda video that is pro Carlson. An eagle flies with a microphone interviews the RU bear while uncle same seethes while the curtain raises and reveals a nice RU. Same people make the Ukr piglet animations.

https://t.me/svinkavobmoroke/460
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 15, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Well, he should quit being a pussy then and just put him up against a wall and shoot him then...

Naw. They swap them now. Maybe worse if a traitor. But this guy is American. I heard they want to swap him for some assassin who is in EU custody. I think they want to try him for the crime of killing some Russian in EU.

And that's why there is no trade...maybe Putin should arrange an escape and pin a murder on him, par it up...   ::rolllaughing::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 15, 2024, 01:00:45 PM
OK, this is funny...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816)

H/T-GP

Also...Larry Johnson at GP posted this...

(https://voxukraine.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/eng-merezha_propagandy_rosii-_na_Zahodi_1.jpg)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/)

Of course he is having fun with it...

On a personal note, I would not want to be associated with Escobar (so in love with anything Putin) and for Macgregor I think my opinion is known (he undercuts his statements with too much ego-driven detours)...

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 15, 2024, 04:10:20 PM

Thanks for the above. I only saw the LJ meme in Russian for some reason. I have watched everyone on there off and on.
Judge NAP has lots of those fmr CIA guys on his show but listed under "live" rather than videos after they play.
I trust amateur video bloggers more than any news source.
I love that Tucker did the grocery store video. Lots of video bloggers have been doing those for over a year, comparing current food prices to before the SMO but most people do not watch those. I like Eli from Russia.

Some ex pat from UK lived in St. Pete and heated his house with all electric. He said his winter monthly elec bill was around 100 USD.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 15, 2024, 04:29:12 PM


I found this, If you download telegram desktop you can download a hi res version of the map of Russia. From 1887 Chambers Encyclopedia.
https://t.me/c/1458395831/328213
I may try to upload the hi res map into a link.
There is no Ukraine on the map.  BUT I notice there is a Lapland label stretching across Finland and Great Russia so other maps may also have geographic terms like this and Ukraine. The only reason I find this important is that people who say they are Ukrainian say they want to drive the subhuman Russians (civilians and army) off their sacred land. They have rewritten history to create an ancient Ukraine nation of the Ukr people from whom even the french, spainards, and jews descended.

Little Russia included Kiev within the eastern border. West Russia has Grodino on eastern border. Poland is centered on warsaw. Siberia may be a geographic term.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 15, 2024, 05:20:08 PM
OK, this is funny...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816)

H/T-GP

Also...Larry Johnson at GP posted this...

(https://voxukraine.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/eng-merezha_propagandy_rosii-_na_Zahodi_1.jpg)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/)

Of course he is having fun with it...

On a personal note, I would not want to be associated with Escobar (so in love with anything Putin) and for Macgregor I think my opinion is known (he undercuts his statements with too much ego-driven detours)...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 15, 2024, 05:50:29 PM
OK, this is funny...
...
Of course he is having fun with it...

On a personal note, I would not want to be associated with Escobar (so in love with anything Putin) and for Macgregor I think my opinion is known (he undercuts his statements with too much ego-driven detours)...

IMO Jackson Hinkle is second rate. So is Redacted but they are getting better and include first rate people often on site. I presume they pay them. People like Patrick Lancaster. They dug into the Hawaii fire a lot.
Brian Berletic is a  CPC simp but he usually backs up what he says with lots of links, often from western sources, even US DOD.
I may look into the others. Alex Christoforou is fast paced, funny, and not too long. A daily news aggregator. From Cyrprus but grew up in US. Moscow, Mexico City. He seems to have a Long Islamd accent.

alex
https://youtu.be/0reEXeWjHBs

here is the RU propaganda Tucker meme
https://rumble.com/v4dgwh0-carlson-is-back.-.html

I had heard that Ukr rewrote history of the ancient Ukr people. Here is a meme
https://rumble.com/v4dgwh0-carlson-is-back.-.html

Depleted uranium meme
https://rumble.com/v2r9slm-ukraine-piglet-20-20-chapter-20-not-every-mushroom-is-a-truffle.html


three little Ujr pigs meme. Different source. Watch to the end.
https://youtu.be/QyMoKGJZ5jA


Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2024, 08:24:53 AM
I don't know the other names you mentioned, which it appears is a good thing...I have heard Christoforou from time to time and hear others mentioning him too here and there...he seems OK, not a rabid Putin gravy lover like Escobar...not an egomaniac like Macgregor...seems fairly stable, almost Tucker like, eh?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 16, 2024, 02:21:51 PM
Before I forget, how do you know so much about the history of the eastern orthodox and the like?

We differ on Macgregor. Just bc he wrote a few military history books and has a PhD does not mean is is right about everything but he seems to  know a lot of history and geography. He seems to know the current state of the US and other militaries. He also looks at things from the point of view of other countries.

Judge Nap also has on former ambassadors Chas Freeman and Alastair Crooke, both very measured and wise IMO. Plus several former CIA and US DOD or state dept. Larry Johnson, Col. Shaefer? Col. Davis? Ray McGovern. Look under the "live" YT playlists. His friday intel round table is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom/streams (https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom/streams)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYrFstT3q8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYrFstT3q8)



Alex differs on the events of the day he is covering. When Alexander is added they are "The Duran" but be drones on and on and speaks slowly His aunt was some greek actress and politician.

Brian Berletic is former US marine. What he added for me is pointing out the US NGO background and training of many in  US funded opposition parties around the world, starting with Thailand where he lives.  US NED does the work of the old CIA around the world. He shows the inter locking boards and even extended families involved. Also massive supply and training and parts for the latest US weapons to save Ukraine. He backs it up with lots of links. He also shows the Harvard atlas of econ dev? You can view the degree of imports and exports for any  nation.

Finally, if you ever have more time, read Robert D. Kaplan (make sure the D is present. Balkan Ghosts was good and so was Monsoon.
He embedded with the Taliban fighting the soviets! he weaves geography, ethnography, history,and some geology. 
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000APBESC/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=ca447547-939a-41b9-aad2-5ada3a02ac15&ref_=ap_rdr (https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000APBESC/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=ca447547-939a-41b9-aad2-5ada3a02ac15&ref_=ap_rdr)

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 16, 2024, 04:13:51 PM

I was given a Russian picture book long ago. It seemed every photos had a helicopter in the background. Siberia.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/8891

The Ket People / 2009
#Russia

Ket are indigenous people from the Yenisei River in Central Siberia. Their settlements can only be reached by a helicopter or a boat. The Ket way of life has remained the same for hundreds of years. They go hunting and fishing. Some people call them the Siberian Indians, as they are related to some native North American groups. There’re only around 1000 Ket people left and only 200 of them speak their native language. February 21 is International Mother Language Day! Ket is one of the rare languages in Russia, its closest relative language died out in the 20th century.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 16, 2024, 04:33:09 PM

When Kiev realizes they are losing they strike civilian targets rather than military.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47500
??WOMAN'S AGONIZING WAIL RESOUNDS as people find dead, contorted bodies in the rubble of the Belgorod attack. (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/34083?single)

NATO-armed Ukrainian forces attack a mall on the outskirts of the city (pictured bottom right) - official sources yet to confirm number of perished.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 19, 2024, 08:02:41 AM
Sure, worth billions more in US taxpayer money...some for bombs, some for payoffs, some for blow up Z's nose...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 21, 2024, 08:36:43 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/russia-arrests-u-s-citizen-on-treason-charges-for-donating-50-to-ukrainian-charity (https://www.dailywire.com/news/russia-arrests-u-s-citizen-on-treason-charges-for-donating-50-to-ukrainian-charity)

Wow.

She'll be popular in gulag...

Lesson?  Once out stay out.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 21, 2024, 09:11:19 AM
And looks like the Rooskies finally caught up to this guy...

https://twitter.com/TOGAjano21/status/1759605320496603599
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 21, 2024, 12:17:49 PM

That was predictable. The helicopter pilot. I recall 2 crew member were killed.

I am not sure if this is in the news, but Navalny's organization was paid money by NED, a CIA cutout. Also, his right hand man was caught on camera asking MI6 for millions.

Fmr CIA Ray McGovern said he would not be surprised in the US or UK had Navalny killed in prison.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 21, 2024, 02:03:37 PM
That sounds like a large load of crap to me...one would think if Putin had evidence like that he and everybody in his government would be waiving it proudly...

Without evidence it looks like desperate knee-jerk Putin exoneration...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 21, 2024, 08:17:04 PM

I meant his right hand man was caught on camera asking for $10-20 million USD (yearly?)  from UK MI6. It was released to the pubic.I recall he said it was to pull off a color revolution but my memory is faulty

The source for the NED funding the Navalny organization was Wikileaks which was published.

Given that the US, according to Viki Nuland, pumped $5B USD into Ukraine, pumping that low an amount into NED  Russia does not seem out of place.

He is a clip of Nuland saying that from the only recent source I remember. This is Russian animation propaganda but has the clip. .
https://t.me/svinkavobmoroke/458
or
https://rumble.com/v4dha6b-ukr-piglet-30-sacral-swine-30-.html

Hearing Ray McGovern on Judge Nap speculate that the west killed Navalny in prison was the wildest thing I ever herd him say. CIA is former CIA who used to brief Reagan.
Others have noticed navalny's wife's behavior. Putin has nothing to gain by making him a martyr. He had very low approval ratings in Russia.

I think this is the McGovern video. See 10 min in.
https://youtu.be/RPYrFstT3q8
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/
Throwing Good Money After Bad in Ukraine?
February 16, 2024
Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.

Brian Berletic has been useful in many areas. One is in showing how the US does color revolutions, including using the NED, He has seen them used in Thailand. I think he went to some receptions until they figured out who he was.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 11:48:23 AM
 I had some videos on and heard a different aspect to Navalny. It went into some details but said he was convicted for fraud involving large amounts of money. It would be nice if the news reported on news. That is their official job.

Plus his death is pretty convenient and is being used to beg for a current bill passage. also, I may have just heard a phrase about his wife's boyfriend but I was half asleep. she does seem to be very happy at the Munich conference a day later.

I heard that yer ago navalny ran for Moscow mayor and got a respectable 27 pct of vote but low turnout. Then he decreased over time to maybe 1 pct nationwide.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 01:10:27 PM

his mother does a brutal smack down on ex wife.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/9001?comment=215907
or
https://t.me/myLordBebo/23524

🇷🇺??🚨 BREAKING: Navalny’s mother says:
- His wife did not see Navalny for 2 years
- She forced him to go to Russia
- She made him transfer all his property in her name
- She appears with other men in public
- Is shamelessly profiting on his death.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 22, 2024, 01:52:29 PM

I meant his right hand man was caught on camera asking for $10-20 million USD (yearly?)  from UK MI6. It was released to the pubic.I recall he said it was to pull off a color revolution but my memory is faulty

The source for the NED funding the Navalny organization was Wikileaks which was published.

Given that the US, according to Viki Nuland, pumped $5B USD into Ukraine, pumping that low an amount into NED  Russia does not seem out of place.

He is a clip of Nuland saying that from the only recent source I remember. This is Russian animation propaganda but has the clip. .
https://t.me/svinkavobmoroke/458
or
https://rumble.com/v4dha6b-ukr-piglet-30-sacral-swine-30-.html

Hearing Ray McGovern on Judge Nap speculate that the west killed Navalny in prison was the wildest thing I ever herd him say. CIA is former CIA who used to brief Reagan.
Others have noticed navalny's wife's behavior. Putin has nothing to gain by making him a martyr. He had very low approval ratings in Russia.

I think this is the McGovern video. See 10 min in.
https://youtu.be/RPYrFstT3q8
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/
Throwing Good Money After Bad in Ukraine?
February 16, 2024
Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.

Brian Berletic has been useful in many areas. One is in showing how the US does color revolutions, including using the NED, He has seen them used in Thailand. I think he went to some receptions until they figured out who he was.

Well, OK an "associate"...perhaps he was the CIA's patsy and perhaps Navalny trusted his man too much or was negligent in vetting where his contributions came from (not hard to do with all of the cut outs IC types do) it doesn't mean Navalny is directly guilty and at this time was Russia not a nominal global business nation?  If the CIA wanted to pop somebody maybe the patsy...and is said "right hand man" even living now...or was his job to merely frame up Navalny for Putin to act against (making Putin silly for falling for the bait)?  Too many unknowns to take Putin or anybody off the hook.  And Rus apologists have too much color revolutions on their mind...the time for that was under Yeltsin and could have been codified by him over some Stoli.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 22, 2024, 01:56:00 PM
I had some videos on and heard a different aspect to Navalny. It went into some details but said he was convicted for fraud involving large amounts of money. It would be nice if the news reported on news. That is their official job.

Plus his death is pretty convenient and is being used to beg for a current bill passage. also, I may have just heard a phrase about his wife's boyfriend but I was half asleep. she does seem to be very happy at the Munich conference a day later.

I heard that yer ago navalny ran for Moscow mayor and got a respectable 27 pct of vote but low turnout. Then he decreased over time to maybe 1 pct nationwide.

No court evidence?  Russia doesn't allow that to be seen by the public?  I mean if he was on the take for the evil US their return stunk if your vote numbers are right...which also begs the question - how much of a threat to Putin could he have been?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 22, 2024, 01:57:02 PM

his mother does a brutal smack down on ex wife.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/9001?comment=215907
or
https://t.me/myLordBebo/23524

🇷🇺??🚨 BREAKING: Navalny’s mother says:
- His wife did not see Navalny for 2 years
- She forced him to go to Russia
- She made him transfer all his property in her name
- She appears with other men in public
- Is shamelessly profiting on his death.

Whore who will do anyting for money?  Hey, Nikki has a friend!   ::rimshot::   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 02:33:19 PM

At least the 'news' could report on what he was charged with.
At the very least the associate meeting with MI6 would put Nalvany under surveillance.
Also stop making his wife a widow saint.
The post from the mother is kinda sad.
The Navalny death IS being used to press for more spending. It helps the west and hurts Putin. That may be partly why Ray McGovern thought the west did it and how easy it would be. Plus I heard that Navalny's lawyer gave him recent medicine? 2 days before? My memory is not perfect but the timing seems too convenient.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 22, 2024, 03:21:20 PM
You are talking helping raise funds from Congress here?  I've heard nobody pimp that idea, though the ones who would (dems/cucks) I would dismiss anyway...their actions have helped Putin more than anything anybody else here has or can do!  Sanctions!  Killing your own energy independence!  Hurting your own currency!  Bankrupting your nation!  Putin himself favors FJB over Trump because he is more "predictable"...yes, to do that worst think for us and best thing for Russia!  Is the CIA looking to help Russia and hurt us?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 04:21:01 PM
You are talking helping raise funds from Congress here?  I've heard nobody pimp that idea, though the ones who would (dems/cucks) I would dismiss anyway...their actions have helped Putin more than anything anybody else here has or can do!  Sanctions!  Killing your own energy independence!  Hurting your own currency!  Bankrupting your nation!  Putin himself favors FJB over Trump because he is more "predictable"...yes, to do that worst think for us and best thing for Russia!  Is the CIA looking to help Russia and hurt us?

???
I just meant that I saw that pressure being put on the US Congress citing Vavalny.

Also here is a link to the UK MI6 video
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47611
It’s never good to be caught on camera attempting a coup in your country with a foreign intel service.

In this video, Navalny's top aide Vladimir Ashurkov is asking MI6 Officer James William Thomas Ford for $10-20 Million a year to start a color revolution in Russia.

This is one of the reasons why Navalny was arrested. And has major implications especially in light of the CIA and MI6 sabotaging the Trump administration.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 04:23:54 PM

Here is the old navalny campaign ad. Comparing Muslims to cockroaches then shooting a cockroach.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47618
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 23, 2024, 07:59:01 AM
You are talking helping raise funds from Congress here?  I've heard nobody pimp that idea, though the ones who would (dems/cucks) I would dismiss anyway...their actions have helped Putin more than anything anybody else here has or can do!  Sanctions!  Killing your own energy independence!  Hurting your own currency!  Bankrupting your nation!  Putin himself favors FJB over Trump because he is more "predictable"...yes, to do that worst think for us and best thing for Russia!  Is the CIA looking to help Russia and hurt us?

???
I just meant that I saw that pressure being put on the US Congress citing Vavalny.

Also here is a link to the UK MI6 video
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47611
It’s never good to be caught on camera attempting a coup in your country with a foreign intel service.

In this video, Navalny's top aide Vladimir Ashurkov is asking MI6 Officer James William Thomas Ford for $10-20 Million a year to start a color revolution in Russia.

This is one of the reasons why Navalny was arrested. And has major implications especially in light of the CIA and MI6 sabotaging the Trump administration.

Telegram doesn't work for me...almost always.  Anyway, if what you say is accurate that makes Ashurkov a suspect for trial, not Navalny...unless the former implicated the latter, but I do not recall his trials or if this Ashurkov character testified or was cross-examined...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 23, 2024, 08:00:22 AM

Here is the old navalny campaign ad. Comparing Muslims to cockroaches then shooting a cockroach.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47618

Another link that doesn't work for me.

Anyway...is that a bad thing?   ::whatgives::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 23, 2024, 09:15:02 AM
Well, isn't this entertaining?!

Russian authorities have said that the opposition activist Aleksei Navalny died of natural causes while in prison in a far northern Arctic penal colony. It comes nearly a full week after Russian prison services announced he died on Feb.16.

There's now a public fight over his body, and the question of a funeral service, as his family and legal team have complained they are being denied access to the deceased. Condemnations have come in from various Western countries, and have pointed at the Putin government, ultimately blaming the Kremlin for his death while in custody. This has included US and European officials.

Navalny's mother, Lyudmila Navalnaya, has newly accused Russian officials of seeking to pressure her into accepting a secret burial, presumably to prevent it from becoming a major televised memorial event.

"Looking me in the eyes, they say that if I don't agree to a secret funeral, they will do something with my son's body," she said in a video posted to Navalny's widow's social media account.

"According to the law, they should have given me Alexei's body immediately," she said. "Instead, they are blackmailing me, and telling me where, when and how Alexei should be buried." She has reportedly filed a lawsuit for immediate release to her custody of his body.

Navalny's legal team has seen a death report saying his death was "natural" - however, few other specifics has been made public.

Meanwhile, Western press has already hailed that his wife Yulia is carrying on the work of team Navalny and will lead the political "opposition" against Putin. Name recognition inside Russia is a whole different question...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-navalny-died-natural-causes-western-msm-anoints-widow-newest-opposition (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-navalny-died-natural-causes-western-msm-anoints-widow-newest-opposition)

I predict the most dedicated Russophiles and Putin idolizers will glom on the MFM championing Yulia as opposition heir...but really, that only works if a) an independent autopsy is allowed and the cause of death is as the government says and b) the allegations of harassing the widow into signing off on a quick quiet burial are a fraud...sans that evidence the position of the government is suspect.  Also, if the government just chooses on its own to cremate Navalny's remains it will look magnitudes worse.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 25, 2024, 08:20:52 PM
Some other intel guy speculated that UK killed Navalny.
Some Berlin blood work years ago  indicated he was not a well man.
His lawyer visited him 2 days before death.

Former CIA Ray Mcgovern said Obama did not want to send lethal weapons to Ukr because it might make them think they could win against Russia. Merkle said it would be a terrible idea in public.

In 2015 someone said/wrote that if war in Ukr that played to Russian strength. Anything we gave to Ukr would be matched, then doubled, then tripled, then quadrupled by Russia. Who? Then deputy US SOS Blinken.

Former US ambassador Burns wrote his famous (leaked) memo saying that inviting Ukr into NATO was a red line and would likely provoke Russia to war. In 2008? Later as CIA director he said the RU invasion was unprovoked.


https://t.me/kalibratedchat/320115
🇷🇺🇺🇦 JUST IN: The head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine, Kyrylo Budanov, said that, according to Ukrainian intelligence, Alexey Navalny actually died due to a blood clot.

🐻 You don't say... We thought Putin killed him, that's what Western Media has been SCREAMING for the past week.

Could it be possible that a certain US based pharmaceutical company killed Navalny? 🤷???

A link to the McGovern video. He gives a summary of recent history leading up to SMO. I knew it all  before.
https://youtu.be/XcIHchh7Bac
 Ex-CIA: US Pentagon TERRIFIED Over New Russia Strike Plan On Ukraine
Stephen Gardner


[They shopped the piece below around to major media for 10 days and no one would touch it so they posted it below]
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/
Throwing Good Money After Bad in Ukraine?
February 16, 2024
Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.
...

Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2024, 08:36:27 AM
I thought the only jab possible in Russia was Sputnik?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 26, 2024, 10:33:12 AM
I thought the only jab possible in Russia was Sputnik?

maybe the commenter did not know that.
Is sputnik a conventional vaccine?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 26, 2024, 11:08:01 AM


Judge NAP has good guests. Here he has Larry Johnson fmr CIA.

I have noticed a change in some western reporting lately.

https://youtu.be/Acwrv4KIblc
I hope this link works. The title looks different.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2024, 12:32:22 PM
I thought the only jab possible in Russia was Sputnik?

maybe the commenter did not know that.
Is sputnik a conventional vaccine?

It was the Russian vax for Covid, thought it was mRNA based too...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 05, 2024, 01:07:03 PM


Ice house fishing in siberia.
https://t.me/RWApodcast/793
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 17, 2024, 12:55:40 PM

Kinda cute video clip
https://t.me/ForeignAgentIntel/9785
A family of nomads from the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug traveled 150 km on a snowmobile to vote in the Russian presidential elections.

Andrei Khudi, his wife and two children live in chum tent in the tundra; during the period of early voting, a helicopter flies to them and brings them ballots. According to him, this year the helicopter did not have time to fly to the Nadym district, where they were staying. So family decided to go there themselves. They set out on a snowmobile early in the morning and in an hour and a half drove to the site in the village of Yar-Sale in time for its opening.

“It is imperative to elect a president, because the quality of our lives depends on it,”-said Andrei Khudi’s wife.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 17, 2024, 12:59:17 PM


https://t.me/putingers_cat/9375
Russians being forced to vote...

Brutal and inhumane!...

Show this to every Westerner you know to highlight the terrible oppressive regime in Russia!...

This is Milan, Italy, by the way.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 17, 2024, 03:48:54 PM

I saw some election results for DPR. 95 pct Putin, around 1.5 pct each for liberal party, nationalist party, and communist party.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on March 18, 2024, 08:48:42 AM
Putin Wins Transparent Russian Reelection, Biden Calls it a Dictatorship – Zelensky Cancels Ukraine Elections, Biden Calls it a Democracy
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/putin-wins-transparent-russian-reelection-biden-calls-it-a-dictatorship-zelensky-cancels-ukraine-elections-biden-calls-it-a-democracy/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/putin-wins-transparent-russian-reelection-biden-calls-it-a-dictatorship-zelensky-cancels-ukraine-elections-biden-calls-it-a-democracy/)

I have issues with Putin, I have concerns with the lack of opposition party viability...but I have no illusions of the Russian psyche either...and no matter how you cut it that headline should make Americans go "Uhh, WTF?!".

More good news for Russia and those wanting to see the Mahdi Death Cult expand nuclear capacity - the military junta in Niger -

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/niger-severs-ties-us-military-after-alarm-raised-junta-will-supply-uranium-iran (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/niger-severs-ties-us-military-after-alarm-raised-junta-will-supply-uranium-iran)

Mmm, yellowcake...yum.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 22, 2024, 03:33:17 PM


This sub reddit is interesting. Seems honest..
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1bemq10/comment/kw0kmw5/?context=3 (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1bemq10/comment/kw0kmw5/?context=3)
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Hi, I just want to ask, given that Muslim peoples have always lived in what is now Russia for generations, is it true that Russians are much more friendly to Muslims compared to Western Europe (where Muslim presence is more recent due to immigration) or India under current Prime Minister Narendra Modi?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 27, 2024, 11:52:52 AM


https://t.me/myLordBebo/26426
🇷🇺🇬🇧🚨?? BBC Torched By RT's Editor-In-Chief: 'We Don't Like You Much Really'

Nobody likes Rosenberg ..
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2024, 11:58:33 AM
Russian state media hates a BBC clown...

No?!

/
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 27, 2024, 02:01:17 PM

Is this true?

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/19435
Russia is the second most-read country in the world, Putin said:

"Today, Russia ranks second in the world in terms of the amount of time its citizens spend reading. China is in first place and Spain is in third".
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 08, 2024, 03:06:18 PM

VERY INTERESTING
Sachs describes a book he read.
https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Russophobia-Britain-Historical-Hardcover/dp/0674281098/ (https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Russophobia-Britain-Historical-Hardcover/dp/0674281098/)

RU and Britain were on the same side in the Napoleonic wars. What happened? NOTHING RU did.
Britain had an empire and was threatened by the very existence of another large country.
So they generated fear of RU including fear of Russia invading India.


https://youtu.be/TAbi_2mbVKM?t=2943 (https://youtu.be/TAbi_2mbVKM?t=2943)   49 min
1992 We won, they lost, so we can do anything we want. We do not have to honor any agreements.

https://youtu.be/TAbi_2mbVKM?t=3015 (https://youtu.be/TAbi_2mbVKM?t=3015) 50 min
Russo phobia goes back to 1840s.



Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on April 09, 2024, 08:07:37 AM
Well, Russophobia like any phobia cannot exist in a vacuum...so, logically there is also Anglophobia, Ameriphobia, Europhobia...

Or it is all just a BS crutch used by small minded fools...

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 15, 2024, 12:41:47 PM

I am part way into a book on Russophobia.
https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Russophobia-Religious-Anti-Putin-Hysteria/dp/0997896523 (https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Russophobia-Religious-Anti-Putin-Hysteria/dp/0997896523)
He starts off going into lots of examples where there is a massive double standard in recent history and reporting where Russia is concerned. Many examples. Western reporting on the Sochi Olympics is an embarrassing hatchet job. Too many examples to repeat.

The local mayor said there were no gay activists in Sochi. So the MSM left off the last word to quote he said there were no gays. Then they removed his interview with the manager of a local gay bar. Over and over.

he includes lots of reporting on the Beslan school massacre. Almost zero empathy just bashing Russians.

The next part deals with history and the schism. The split got worse starting 1054. The byzantine church and court was very civilized when the west was fairly barbaric. Western royals went there in search of marriage partners.There were later attempts by the western churches to re-unify the Orthodox by force. Invasion from the west and through the baltics.

The Russians were characterized as expansionist and barbaric when the west was colonizing the world. One reason given aside from religion is that they look like us but they are not us so something is wrong with them. The orthodox did not send out missionaries.

The Mongols were invading from the east so the Swedes picked that time to invade I did not know that about the battle on the ice.
https://youtu.be/IcPixaWL2Pg?t=346. (https://youtu.be/IcPixaWL2Pg?t=346.)




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Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on April 15, 2024, 01:44:37 PM
Poor Russians...

Picked on like no other, uhh...

/
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 15, 2024, 05:07:45 PM

No. It turns out that Russia as the bogey man goes back long before the SMO. I am just learning about.

I have not gotten that far in the book yet. On YT I heard that it goes back in UK to around 1840. UK liked RU help in beating Napoleon but then decided there was only room for one empire on the planet. So they started making stuff up not based on RU actions.
E.g. RU had plans to invade and conquer India. Also, Poland and others created a fake will/testament for Peter the Great having his plans to conquer Europe or some such.

I heard that US tranny who was the official eng language spokesperson for Ukr govt say that Russians are mongols while Ukr are European and Russians are a slave race that need to be led. I just got to that part in the book. That is hundreds of years old in the west. Another is that the RU czars are despots needed to control the RU but also they re a meek slave race and easy to lead.

China and Japan have both gone to war with RU and border them  but they do not share the European stereotypes. That is weird.
It just seems that the Russia hatred is way beyond reasonable I so I wanted the history.

Some guy wrote a 1950 Harvard PhD on Russo-phobia apparently turned into a 1962 book. I have a request for inter library loan for that.

https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Russophobia-Britain-Historical-Hardcover/dp/0674281098 (https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Russophobia-Britain-Historical-Hardcover/dp/0674281098)
The Genesis of Russophobia in Great Britain Hardcover – February 5, 1950
by John Howes Gleason (Author)

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 15, 2024, 06:50:31 PM
from amazon


Quote
Whence, then, the rabid Russophobia that characterised British public discourse after WWII? He debunks the notion that the British Russophobia originates in the inter-imperial rivalry (there was no severe clash of imperial interests, the “Great Game” legend notwithstanding). According to Professor Gleason, a good part of it was due to internal ideological and political polemics, fueled both by journalistic demagogues and representatives of some limitrophe states such as Poland. It is fascinating to compare the anti-Russian political and media campaign of that time with what goes on right now in the US, for example.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on April 16, 2024, 08:15:07 AM
And yet the Brits were penetrated first by the Russian Communist contagion...so some went from so-called "haters" to "traitors" pretty damn easy...

And now days I see the long-suffering Russian psyche exploiting weaker minds to feel sorry for them as an avenue to convert them into Russophiles...

Yes, Russia is so superior to all other nations on the face of this Earth they cannot fend off the people begging to belong to it...

So tired of the word "hate" being bandied about casually...

Ask German Jews what hate really is...ask those shipped off to Siberia or shot in the woods or the basement of the Lubyanka under Stalin what hate is...ask the victims of Pol Pot what hate is...the victims of North Korean Un reign of terror...etc etc...

Poor fricken Russians?

Pah!

 ::)