It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => 2nd Amendment/Firearms => Topic started by: Pandora on July 08, 2011, 01:29:36 PM
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Half a year after the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), the Obama administration is set to release a series of reforms to the current gun law, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said on Thursday. (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/what-a-shock-obama-to-unveil-new-gun-control-reforms/)
The reforms, which are being crafted by the Department of Justice, come after a series of meetings with relevant stakeholders in the Second Amendment debate. But in a nod to the difficulties of getting legislation through a Republican-run House of Representatives, only executive orders or administrative actions — and not an actual bill — are expected to be handed to Congress.
Administration officials were coy on the specifics, from the reforms the Department of Justice would recommend or when it would actually make those recommendations.
"Coy on specifics", hunh?
I am tired of living in dread of what they're going to do next.
I want them to know instead we're coming after them. All of them.
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I want them to know instead we're coming after them. All of them.
If this goes anywhere, I swear on my kids lives I start raising a Militia w/ the express purpose of "...altering or abolishing..."!
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What, did I fart in the pew?
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No, it isn't you. I believe folks are suffering from outrage-exhaustion syndrome. There's only so much BP raising bullspit one can take in a daily dose.
Kids all ok?
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No, it isn't you. I believe folks are suffering from outrage-exhaustion syndrome. There's only so much BP raising bullspit one can take in a daily dose.
Kids all ok?
That about sums it up. I'm thinking I'm shellshocked. Nothing this administration does surprises me anymore. Plus, I don't know who I want to throttle more. The spineless GOP or the "Independent" voters who got us here to begin with. ::gaah::
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Kids are fantastic, thanks. I'll send some summer action photos soon.
Outrage fatigue has struck here, too. Mostly that, but also this has been a great spring/summer so far.
I swing by here when I need a shot of adrenaline!
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....I believe folks are suffering from outrage-exhaustion syndrome....
That ^^^
I go in waves. I've noticed that about myself over the last several years, since Powerline. I have ebbs and flows in how much I can stand to be steeped in the muck.
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I believe folks are suffering from outrage-exhaustion syndrome.
I think that is part of the left's plan. Keep hammering us from all sides, 24/7, without letup, with one outrage after another. Sensory overload. We'll be too paralyzed to do anything about it. We react to one thing, and meanwhile they're doing five or six more things.
It seems to be working so far.
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I believe folks are suffering from outrage-exhaustion syndrome.
I think that is part of the left's plan. Keep hammering us from all sides, 24/7, without letup, with one outrage after another. Sensory overload. We'll be too paralyzed to do anything about it. We react to one thing, and meanwhile they're doing five or six more things.
It seems to be working so far.
Yes and yes.
They're running Cloward-Piven on our heads as well. It's not just sensory overload, it takes a toll on the stamina.
It gets to me to thinking about that old adage: Don't attempt to fight an old man; if he's too tired to fight, he'll just kill you.
I also wonder about our House Republicans as well; they're in the thick of it, every damn day. I expect it's as overwhelming for them sometimes, too, especially if the staunch ones never know who's going to RINO out on them.
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Look here (http://www.eternityroad.info/index.php/weblog/single/whenever_the_slings_and_arrows/). This guy's feeling it as well.
A piece:
But what bugs and fatigues me is that these damned statist outrages just keep frittering coming. You knock one down and a thousand more crop up to take its place. It’s never-ending. They’re all against the rules. But the statist creeps form a very exclusive club, and it appears they coopt nearly any and every one who has the temerity to mount assaults on them. And they move to protect one another, even when they shouldn’t.
Consider this. The Constitution—and therefore the legal framework of the United States—derives its just powers from the governed. Says so right here: We the People, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So just where the hell do judges get off ruling that members of We the People do not have standing when statist gits in Washington waive our rights with out so much as a willy. Or even a nilly. Need to show you’ve been harmed? How does having my liberty diminished—unlawfully, I might add—NOT harm me? Can there be no relief?
And I can’t help looking for a silver bullet. Like: ought it be lawful to assassinate tyrannical public officials? You’d have to stand trial, in jeopardy for your life, yes, of course. But should “He needed killing, Judge,” be considered an affirmative defense? (With a very high bar, of course.)
But somehow this shinola’s gotta stop. Or we face a far worse whirlwind behind it.
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Off topic, but I've spent some time over there today, on this (http://www.eternityroad.info/index.php/weblog/single/4978/) thread.
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I want them to know instead we're coming after them. All of them.
If this goes anywhere, I swear on my kids lives I start raising a Militia w/ the express purpose of "...altering or abolishing..."!
I'm all for that!
My Constitution and DOI trumps their Tyranny!
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::lalanotlistening:: ::gaah:: ::angry:: ::cussing::
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Create a problem, mandate a "solution" by bureaucratic fiat. This is the building blocks of tyranny being set into place folks. Can there be any further doubt?
ATF to require gun buyer information on border (http://news.yahoo.com/atf-require-gun-buyer-information-border-213420855.html)
WASHINGTON (AP) — In an effort to stem the illicit flow of weapons into Mexico, the Justice Department announced Monday that all gun shops in four Southwest border states will be required to alert the federal government to frequent buyers of high-powered rifles...
More dismay at the link.
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Smith should inform the gunshops in these states to ignore the ATF on this and call for heads, our representatives have got to start yanking leashes or these rabid dogs will turn on us all!
::cussing::
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Create a problem, mandate a "solution" by bureaucratic fiat. This is the building blocks of tyranny being set into place folks. Can there be any further doubt?
ATF to require gun buyer information on border (http://news.yahoo.com/atf-require-gun-buyer-information-border-213420855.html)
WASHINGTON (AP) — In an effort to stem the illicit flow of weapons into Mexico, the Justice Department announced Monday that all gun shops in four Southwest border states will be required to alert the federal government to frequent buyers of high-powered rifles...
More dismay at the link.
Any mention of his administration stopping the selling of guns by them!!
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No, it isn't you. I believe folks are suffering from outrage-exhaustion syndrome. There's only so much BP raising bullspit one can take in a daily dose.
Kids all ok?
"Barking dogs don't bite"
Some of us are just busy choosing our ground.
Tom Petty - I Won't Back Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4ustq-kmQ#)
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Create a problem, mandate a "solution" by bureaucratic fiat. This is the building blocks of tyranny being set into place folks. Can there be any further doubt?
ATF to require gun buyer information on border (http://news.yahoo.com/atf-require-gun-buyer-information-border-213420855.html)
WASHINGTON (AP) — In an effort to stem the illicit flow of weapons into Mexico, the Justice Department announced Monday that all gun shops in four Southwest border states will be required to alert the federal government to frequent buyers of high-powered rifles...
More dismay at the link.
This is not equality under the law, as I see it. Only these States are required to meet different reporting requirements? The AGs need to get together and sue DOJ's ass off.
I noticed also, yesterday, that they're clamping down on certain calibers of ammo and the DOD has begun crushing brass again instead of letting it out to the market. Looks to me like the incursions against the guns themselves are minimal; what they're going after now is ammunition.
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(sigh)
Are you recommending I place some bulk orders...while I can?
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(sigh)
Are you recommending I place some bulk orders...while I can?
EA has had to remove our Trident bullets in .223, 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 SPC. The BATF has ruled that all of these cartridges are now pistol cartridges. Since they are now pistol cartridges their construction now falls under the content and construction limitations of the 68 GAC and pistol cartridges. (http://www.eliteammunition.net/newsletters/newsletter/7385257/81014.htm)
Read the rest and you tell me.
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Jeebus!
First, classifying rifle ammo as pistol is pure BS, I want to see a federal judge agree with that crap!
Second, I wouldn't expect copper exemption to last longer than a biscuit on a table at a fat man convention.
Third, no surprise they are targeting popular AR rounds, eh? Bastids!
Lastly - "Those who have T6 ammunition and PFP bullets will be contacted by the BATF to recover any bullets or ammunition that have not been FIRED yet."
The "FU" leveled at these pricks cannot be shouted loud enough!
In conclusion I guess I just answered my own question.
::angry::
::cussing:: Facists!
This has Stymie & Erica's foul stench all over it!!!
::gaah::
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Is it too late to learn how to make my own rounds?
::whatgives::
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Is it too late to learn how to make my own rounds?
::whatgives::
No, but the components are prolly becoming more expensive too, so get a move on.
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Is it too late to learn how to make my own rounds?
::whatgives::
No, but the components are prolly becoming more expensive too, so get a move on.
::bashing::
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Create a problem, mandate a "solution" by bureaucratic fiat. This is the building blocks of tyranny being set into place folks. Can there be any further doubt?
ATF to require gun buyer information on border (http://news.yahoo.com/atf-require-gun-buyer-information-border-213420855.html)
WASHINGTON (AP) — In an effort to stem the illicit flow of weapons into Mexico, the Justice Department announced Monday that all gun shops in four Southwest border states will be required to alert the federal government to frequent buyers of high-powered rifles...
More dismay at the link.
Further information as Issa and Grassley react to the new long-gun registration requirements: (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/rep-darrell-issa-responds-to-team-obamas-new-regulations-on-guns-sold-in-fast-furious-video/)
There is now evidence that the Obama Administration was looking for anecdotal cases to support their regulations on long gun multiple sales.
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Senator Charles Grassley released this statement yesterday:
Senator Chuck Grassley, Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, gave the following comment after it was announced by the Justice Department that Federal Firearms Licensees along the Southwest Border would be required to report multiple long gun sales. The Judiciary Committee has primary jurisdiction over policy related to the Justice Department. Grassley is also leading an investigation into the risky strategy employed by Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to allow guns to be sold to straw buyers and then watch the guns be transported to third parties without following the guns.
“We’ve learned from our investigation of Fast and Furious that reporting multiple long gun sales would do nothing to stop the flow of firearms to known straw purchasers because many Federal Firearms Dealers are already voluntarily reporting suspicious transactions. In fact, in just the documents we’ve obtained, we are aware of 150 multiple long guns sales associated with the ATF’s Fast and Furious case, and despite the fact that nearly all of these sales were reported in real time by cooperating gun dealers, the ATF watched the guns be transported from known straw purchasers to third parties and then let the guns walk away, often across the border. This makes it pretty clear that the problem isn’t lack of burdensome reporting requirements. The administration’s continued overreach with regulations continues, and is a distraction from its reckless policy to allow guns to walk into Mexico.”
Neither Grassley nor Issa are quite there yet; this was not a bungle, this was deliberate.
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"this was not a bungle, this was deliberate"
Damn right, and people, not just us, should be hoping mad about this!!!
::gaah::
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They sure could use more help (more like-minded pubbies to chair investigations, etc).
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They sure could use more help (more like-minded pubbies to chair investigations, etc).
They should also be cleaning out cells for future guests and not wait for the Christmas rush. Somebody needs to go to jail. I'm thinking Holder first.
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This action by batf - creating a new standard for multiple sales on. Border states - begs the observation: they are making this move in spite of all that's been revealed about gunwalker. They let the guns walk across the border, they facilitated the murders of a border agent and god knows how many others. Yet they have the hubris to use ths very activity as an excuse for these new regulations.
It smacks of a plan, elements of which must be accomplished no matter what - even in the face of complete exposure and revelation, and even when their sole justification is exposed as fraud and scandal, they believe that making this move against firearm rights trumps whatever fallout that may come from doing so.
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It's frightening.
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I'm starting to feel like a German Jew circa 1930's!
But the Proglodyte Gestapo gonna find our people a much tougher populace to snuff, which is why the evil bastards are sneaking around doing crap like this. Laying the groundwork for eventual confiscation of all privately held guns. Then nothing will stop them!
Time for The Resistance to start kicking some fascist ass!