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Title: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Pandora on August 16, 2011, 10:07:12 AM
On his first day on the campaign trail, Texas Gov. Rick Perry admitted he made a mistake on the sole issue pro-life advocates bring up as the lone black mark in an otherwise sterling pro-life record. (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/08/15/perry_regretting_hpv_vaccine_mandate)
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 16, 2011, 10:15:55 AM

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Perry explained that, in his zeal to protect children, he went too far.

“I signed an executive order that allowed for an opt-out, but the fact of the matter is I didn’t do my research well enough to understand that we needed to have a substantial conversation with our citizenry,” he said. “I hate cancer. Let me tell you, as a son who has a mother and father who are both cancer survivors.”

Read an article saying it was his wife, a graduate nurse, promoted the idea to him.
This will not be the last time he's asked about it.

Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Pandora on August 16, 2011, 10:18:36 AM
Merck lobbied him, hard.  High-level staffer involved too.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 16, 2011, 10:40:27 AM
It's amazing how these pols have regrets now that they are out there trying to win an election
I question the soundness of their judgement in the first place

Also saw (somewhere)  his excuse for supporting Al Gore in 1988

He claimed that Al was a different guy before he invented the internet.
What I saw was Al still thought greenhouse gasses were the problem then,too
And other clues to being a nut case.

Can't lay my fingers on where I saw it but I'll keep looking
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 16, 2011, 10:50:56 AM
I found the source.
I know, it's Politico
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61428.html (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61428.html)

I will grant that there are many things that I view much differently than I did 25 years ago.
Heck, even 3 years ago.

I'd give Perry a pass on this Al Gore thing
Couple other things, not so sure
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Pandora on August 16, 2011, 10:59:03 AM
http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/ (http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/)

H/T Mike C.

Haven't finished reading it yet; I thought I'd just toss it up for everyone's edification.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: AlanS on August 16, 2011, 11:32:03 AM
So he was for it before he was against it? ::thinking::

As far as campaigning for Algore, I'm not so quick to forgive.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Libertas on August 16, 2011, 11:36:08 AM
http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/ (http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/)

H/T Mike C.

Haven't finished reading it yet; I thought I'd just toss it up for everyone's edification.

IMO he has some vulnerability on Gardasil, Taxes (has raised sin taxes etc) & Immigration (TX Dream Act had him over the barrel, but he could have vetoed and let legislature override him, his poop would be clean in that case...and his positions on border are not Arizona enough for me).  Honorable mention would go to the Bilderberg crap, not because I buy into that global conspiracy crap, more because too many on that invitee lists are Ruling Class clowns and it just looks bad.  The remaining issues look weak or really weak to me.  My two bits anyway.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Libertas on August 16, 2011, 11:39:21 AM
So he was for it before he was against it? ::thinking::

As far as campaigning for Algore, I'm not so quick to forgive.

I know.

But either AlGore provided the cathartic response causing him to part ways with the DemonRat party or he's full of crap.  I'll error on the side of patience and give him a little slack, but he proves my tentative restraint misplaced and I'll jerk that rope tight!
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Libertas on August 16, 2011, 11:41:29 AM
18. Rick Perry is way too chummy with Muslims
(publishing 8/16/11)

Can't wait to see what this is about...

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 16, 2011, 01:40:56 PM
So he was for it before he was against it? ::thinking::

As far as campaigning for Algore, I'm not so quick to forgive.

I know.

But either AlGore provided the cathartic response causing him to part ways with the DemonRat party or he's full of crap.  I'll error on the side of patience and give him a little slack, but he proves my tentative restraint misplaced and I'll jerk that rope tight!


I may stand corrected but most of rural Texas was Democrat in the '80s.
Today the rural is going Republican and the metro is going Democrat.  The two biggest counties are close to flipping and if the Pubbies aren't careful it will flip the state. 

Wasn't he Lt. Governor at the time, an elected official at the time anyway and a Democrat, therefore, being chair for Gore would  have been good for the CV, it seems a natural thing to have done.
 

That he saw the light and has proved it in deed seems more important.

Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 16, 2011, 03:48:58 PM
Any politician is gonna have 'splainin' to do over one thing or another. The question then becomes, "do I believe the explanation".

I have to say for myself that an explanation without admission of a mistake seems like pandering and justification, every single time. Admissions of mistakes made - and better yet, apologies for them - goes a long way with me. But even then, I'm looking for a sign of authenticity.

I buy Perry's admission, but I also can't shake the sense that he's an awful lot like George W. Bush. Eerily so at times.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 16, 2011, 04:38:08 PM

They were born in Texas.
They are devout Christians.
They flew airplanes.
They are both male.

That's about it.

Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 16, 2011, 05:03:57 PM

Bushies slam Rick Perry's Ben Bernanke comment (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61486.html)

Rick Perry’s attack on Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke – calling the country’s central banker “almost treasonous” for adopting quantitative easing policy – has drawn a sharp round of rebukes from former Bush administration officials, starting with known Perry skeptic Karl Rove.

[Turd Blossom] Rove blasted on Fox News (via GOP12):

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“It's his first time on the national stage, and it was a very unfortunate comment. You don't accuse the chairman of the federal reserve of being a traitor to his country and being guilty of treason and suggesting that we treat him pretty ugly in Texas — that's not, again, a presidential statement … Governor Perry is going to have to fight the impression that he's a cowboy from Texas. This simply added to it.”
[/blockquote]



Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Glock32 on August 16, 2011, 05:25:38 PM
I'm not a Perry cheerleader, but my estimation of him can only go up if the likes of Rove don't like him. Words cannot adequately express how much I loathe that pudgy tub of sh*t.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: AlanS on August 16, 2011, 05:49:32 PM
I'm not a Perry cheerleader, but my estimation of him can only go up if the likes of Rove don't like him. Words cannot adequately express how much I loathe that pudgy tub of sh*t.

That is a DEFINITE plus in the Perry category.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Pandora on August 16, 2011, 05:50:58 PM
Any politician is gonna have 'splainin' to do over one thing or another. The question then becomes, "do I believe the explanation".

I have to say for myself that an explanation without admission of a mistake seems like pandering and justification, every single time. Admissions of mistakes made - and better yet, apologies for them - goes a long way with me. But even then, I'm looking for a sign of authenticity.

I buy Perry's admission, but I also can't shake the sense that he's an awful lot like George W. Bush. Eerily so at times.

We go with Perry, we're going to have to fight him tooth and nail on the illegal alien/amnesty issue.

To wit:

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But the effort to combat disease and illness requires greater cooperative efforts between our two nations. It is a simple truth that disease knows no boundaries. An outbreak of drug-resistant tuberculosis, for example, endangers citizens of both our nations. We have much to gain if we work together to expand preventative care, and treat maladies unique to this region.

Legislation authored by border legislators Pat Haggerty and Eddie Lucio establishes an important study that will look at the feasibility of bi-national health insurance. This study recognizes that the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border compose one region, and we must address health care problems throughout that region. That’s why I am also excited that Texas Secretary of State Henry Cuellar is working on an initiative that could extend the benefits of telemedicine to individuals living on the Mexican side of the border.

As a compassionate state, we know that for our children to succeed, they must not only be healthy, but educated. The future leaders of our two nations are learning their fractions and their ABC’s in classrooms all along this border. Immigrants from around the world are being taught in Texas classrooms, and our history is rich with examples of new citizens who have made great contributions. We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.

...

President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it.

The rest. (http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/)

Now, this speech is from August, 2001.  His thinking may have changed since then and maybe it hasn't.

Don't shoot the messenger, please.  I report, you decide.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 16, 2011, 05:54:16 PM

ETA:
        [Perry] He added, “We’ve already tried this. All it’s going to be doing is devaluing the dollar in your pocket and we cannot afford that. We have to learn the lessons of the past three years that they’ve been devastating. The President of the United States has conducted an experiment on the American economy for almost the last three years, and it has gone tragically wrong and we need to send him a clear message in November of 2012 that new leadership is coming.”

Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 16, 2011, 06:21:22 PM

They were born in Texas.
They are devout Christians.
They flew airplanes.
They are both male.

That's about it.



No, it's more than that. The swagger (which doesn't bother me a bit, BTW). The cadence of speech and tone of voice. The hand gestures, facial expressions. The squint in the eye.

I'm talking about non-policy similarities. He just reminds me of Bush.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Glock32 on August 16, 2011, 06:34:03 PM
IDP is right, there is a strong similarity to Bush on all those counts. And yes, it will be a liability for Perry. An insurmountable liability? Given the state of affairs under the present "leadership", probably not. But combined with the other demerits on Perry's scorecard, he's not my choice for nominee.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Pandora on August 16, 2011, 06:41:19 PM
(http://www.amnation.com/vfr/Perry%20and%20Bush.jpg)

H/T Auster.

Some are complaining about our early vetting of Perry -- and the criticism of him -- looks like we're ready to eat our own, again.  I'm not referring to the Rove-type of "vetting"; it's that of 'we, the people'.  I don't know .... are we too critical, too early?
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 16, 2011, 06:46:23 PM
Maybe Pan. But who can blame us if skepticism is our starting line?

The perfect candidate does not exist. But we have earned the right to demand the best one we can get.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Pandora on August 16, 2011, 07:26:29 PM
Maybe Pan. But who can blame us if skepticism is our starting line?

The perfect candidate does not exist. But we have earned the right to demand the best one we can get.

I don't blame us.

No, one doesn't exist and we've not only earned the right, it's our duty and responsibility, as I see it.

For me, it's just a sign of how far this country and its people have slid down the slope of leftism, that "the perfect candidate" would be one who merely holds steadily to Constitutional principles and understands the concept of THE RULE OF LAW. 

What we have instead are ones that we have to "forgive" certain left-leaning flaws in order to not let the 'perfect be the enemy of the good'.

What the hell good is it to get a Perry, instead of a Romney, when there's a chance we'll also get a fight on illegal amnesty as well.

I'm disgusted, actually.  And leaning heavily toward Bachmann at this point.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 16, 2011, 07:49:28 PM
...For me, it's just a sign of how far this country and its people have slid down the slope of leftism, that "the perfect candidate" would be one who merely holds steadily to Constitutional principles and understands the concept of THE RULE OF LAW...

No doubt. It should be a given that any president - any politician for that matter - meets the bare minimum requirement of holding steadily to constitutional principles and understanding the rule of law. Down the slope indeed.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: John Florida on August 16, 2011, 07:57:52 PM
...For me, it's just a sign of how far this country and its people have slid down the slope of leftism, that "the perfect candidate" would be one who merely holds steadily to Constitutional principles and understands the concept of THE RULE OF LAW...

No doubt. It should be a given that any president - any politician for that matter - meets the bare minimum requirement of holding steadily to constitutional principles and understanding the rule of law. Down the slope indeed.

 At this point for me none of them work,till they prove that they do.I don't know enough about Perry to go either way on him. But so far Rove and Huck are against that puts me leaning towards a yes but still too soon to tall.

 Huck has no credibility with me and Rove even less.The way I see it they're both pushing Romney one because he wants a job later(Huck) and the other wants to get even. All I need is for McCain to come out against and if Rudy comes out against that's all I need to go for him.

 I know one thing and that's this time they're gonna have a harder time picking a candidate for me.


 


 
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Pandora on August 16, 2011, 08:06:32 PM
...For me, it's just a sign of how far this country and its people have slid down the slope of leftism, that "the perfect candidate" would be one who merely holds steadily to Constitutional principles and understands the concept of THE RULE OF LAW...

No doubt. It should be a given that any president - any politician for that matter - meets the bare minimum requirement of holding steadily to constitutional principles and understanding the rule of law. Down the slope indeed.

Yes.  Bare f**king minimum.

And how often are we told what we consider to be the bare minimum is making the perfect an enemy of the good?

Are we just destined to have to pick the best of the worst and then fight him on one front or another?  This is past bearable now.

Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 16, 2011, 08:22:53 PM

Two things:
                  Karl Rove - That pudgy tub of sh*t  ----- PTOS ::hysterical::
                  He endorsed Rudy because of national security issues and Rudy will probably return in kind.


Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: John Florida on August 16, 2011, 08:42:42 PM

Two things:
                  Karl Rove - That pudgy tub of sh*t  ----- PTOS ::hysterical::
                  He endorsed Rudy because of national security issues and Rudy will probably return in kind.





   RudyHuck and Rove are all going to be making deals with the candidates to get jobs in DC just like the deal they had with Johnny Mac. they hung in there long enough to screw Romney last go round and this time they will be looking to make a deal with him to back him. Whores!
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 16, 2011, 08:59:19 PM

Link (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/16/usa-campaign-perry-idUSN1E77F10V20110816)
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The White House denounced Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry on Tuesday for his threatening remarks toward the head of the U.S. Federal Reserve that represented some of the most inflammatory  ::speechless:: rhetoric of the 2012 election campaign.
[/blockquote]

Hey Barry, are you sure it wasn't racist or anti-Semitic or something?
Oh, I got it!   It was hate speach, yeah, that's it. That's the ticket.


Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Pandora on August 16, 2011, 09:19:07 PM
The "most inflammatory rhetoric"??  Are you KIDDIN' ME?!
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 16, 2011, 10:34:41 PM

Chris Matthews Blast Entire State of Texas as Ignorant , Full Of BS, Calls Perry A Clown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG4yU4wp94g#)

Six states?  Five states?  Maybe four states.

Secession or recession?  Maybe procession.

Tingles is so happy, he's going to race Barney for the biggest spread of the year.

Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 17, 2011, 12:08:09 AM
http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/ (http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/)

H/T Mike C.

Haven't finished reading it yet; I thought I'd just toss it up for everyone's edification.

IMO he has some vulnerability on Gardasil, Taxes (has raised sin taxes etc) & Immigration (TX Dream Act had him over the barrel, but he could have vetoed and let legislature override him, his poop would be clean in that case...and his positions on border are not Arizona enough for me).  Honorable mention would go to the Bilderberg crap, not because I buy into that global conspiracy crap, more because too many on that invitee lists are Ruling Class clowns and it just looks bad.  The remaining issues look weak or really weak to me.  My two bits anyway.

Rick Perry and the Trans-Texas Corridor (http://www.therightscoop.com/rick-perry-and-the-trans-texas-corridor/)

Posted by The Right Scoop on Aug 16, 2011 in Politics

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Ok one more for the night. Pesky Truth (http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/), who is a retired business owner and veteran who lives in dallas, has a great write-up called “Seventeen (17) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry” and it seems to be a very objective take on the criticisms people are leveling at Rick Perry. Some are true, and some are not. You can jump over via the link above and read all 17 of them, but I plan on posting most of them here, one per night, to give you guys a chance to discuss them at length. Tonight’s topic is the Trans-Texas Corridor and here’s Pesky’s write-up:  Link (http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/)
[/blockquote]

It's a good summation, the rest of them should be interesting.


Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2011, 07:37:03 AM
Forest n' trees...  The Butthead is doing us a favor by bringing the Perry knives out so early...it's not as important right now that we debate why we have issues with Perry (we do, but the normal course of the campaign will help the vetting process), what is important is why the Rovian's and Ruling Class whores are attacking Perry!  They are attacking him because they see him as the logical threat to their establishment candidate - Romney!  We shouldn't forget about our issues with Perry, but we need to focus on thwarting the Ruling Class pukes from once again hijacking who we want to represent us against the single greatest threat to American Liberty to come along, ever - Obama!  I have no problem having Perry take Romney down and keep Bachmann below radar.  Once Romney is out of the way the road will be clear to tackle Perry.  The Rovian's & Ruling Class PTB's see Bachmann as a minor threat, a blip to be easily dispatched by their man, once their man puts down the usurper from Texas.  I say we change the game to our advantage and beat the Rovian's at their own game.  Follow the money, Ruling Class money is going to Romney.  Who is our real target at this point in time?  What do you think?
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 17, 2011, 09:57:02 AM

 ::thumbsup::

That changes the game from "anybody but Obama" to "nobody from the Ruling Class".   ::USA::

Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: AlanS on August 17, 2011, 04:08:11 PM

 ::thumbsup::

That changes the game from "anybody but Obama" to "nobody from the Ruling Class".   ::USA::



That has quite a ring to it. ::cool::
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 17, 2011, 08:37:52 PM

Thump (http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/perry-defends-treason-bernanke/2011/08/17/id/407666?s=al&promo_code=CDB2-1)
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Presidential candidate Rick Perry renewed his attack on the Federal Reserve on Wednesday,
...
“There have been a number of politicians who have stood up and really questioned the transparency of the Federal Reserve,” ... “They should open their books up. They should be transparent so that the people of the United States know what they are doing and how they are doing.

“Until they do that, there will continue to be questions about their activity and what their true goal is for the United States.”

[/blockquote]

Link (http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/perry-defends-treason-bernanke/2011/08/17/id/407666?s=al&promo_code=CDB2-1)


I've been thinking about all the metrosexuals in the Republican Party and how plain speak gets them all a quiver.  Just hypothetically day dreaming:
                                                    If he were to choose Allen West as his running mate would it light them up
                                                    more than if he were to choose Michele Bachmann? 

     
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 17, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
More On Perry And Gardasil (http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2011/08/17/more-on-perry-and-gardasil/)

The article has accurate information and enlightening links to facts and opinion about the Gardasil fiasco.  
Erick said it only resonates with the base and he's correct.  This will be a reoccurring agitprop and in order to
form accurate opinion our sources must be trusted and accurate.



ETA: Another one

Vetting Rick Perry (http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2011/08/17/vetting-rick-perry/)

    
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Libertas on August 18, 2011, 07:26:05 AM
Good find CO, but you know the average voter attention span is about 3 seconds and the attention span of the MFM is 1/3 that, so explaining the details behind the Gardasil move in any explanation will be DOA.  In hindsight it would have been better had he not signed that bill and let the legislature override him, his hands would have been clean.  As it is he is doing the only thing the ADD electorate can understand - admit he goofed up and move on.

And re: ticket, way too early for specualtion.  I like Bachmann & West, so why can't the former tap the latter as Veep?

 ;)
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 18, 2011, 10:27:19 AM

I am concerned more about internecine conflict.  I found the articles at RedState informative and interesting presenting not only facts but circumstance. Like Trap, I don't think Erick is the great predictor but he has brought more facts and information than I have found elsewhere.

 One must consider most information comes first from a media that hates conservatives, then from anti-Perry groups, then from various specific interest groups.  Each of these groups presenting, if accurate at all, information that promotes their agenda.  Putting all the actual facts and events together with the sequence of events will tell what happened and what was driving the events.

At this point there is more misinterpretation and falsehood than fact about the Gardasil fiasco.  This thing is going to be a reoccurring topic and it would benefit all concerned to be clear about fact and truth.  When argument is made is shouldn't be amongst the base, the base should be unified and be able to enunciate the facts to the middle.   

Bachmann/West sounds great. 
I'm thrilled that we have so many participants in the political theater that are persons of character and spine.
This vetting process will be exhilarating and I look forward to learning more about all of our favorites.

No more is it "anybody but Obama", it's been elevated to "nobody from the Ruling Class".



Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 18, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
I'm not looking for the perfect candidate but how about one who's principles have remained constant over their lifetime/political career?

I have my doubts about Perry.  He couldn't see Gore for the dud he is?  I did and I'm not in politics.  I read about the HPV vaccine-lots of stuff.  He didn't? I had family members die from cancer--he's not unique in that.

Give me a break.  That's the man and now he's trying to swept it up into a pile and ask us to ignore it.

Lame.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: John Florida on August 18, 2011, 07:05:46 PM
At this point we have options as to who we want to run. How would you like to be the people stuck with Obama.
Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 19, 2011, 03:11:47 PM


Columbia, South Carolina (CNN) (http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/09/16/south.carolina.hpv/index.html?hpt=po_t2) South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, has her own history on the HPV issue.

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In 2007, ...Haley was throwing her support behind a similar bill in South Carolina....

... Unlike the executive order for which Perry is taking heat, this legislative mandate did not include a provision for parents to opt out of inoculating their daughters.
...
Within months, fierce opposition mounted, and legislative records back up accounts from sources who recall sponsors "dropping like flies" before a unanimous vote killed the bill on April 18, 2007.

More than a dozen legislators formally requested to be removed as sponsors from the bill, but the future governor of South Carolina was not one of them.



Link (http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/09/16/south.carolina.hpv/index.html?hpt=po_t2)

Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 19, 2011, 03:47:52 PM
The problem with politicians is they never understand how much the voters will accept.  Sure, outside of a minority, most will accept some vaccinations as necessary but when it starts to appear that every new vaccine that comes down the pike is being mandated especially without a groundswell of voter support this happens.
And I think it's not unique to this issue.  Any issue.  Once people get the idea that the fiction most live with--that politicians actually care about us---is untrue then the resentment builds and then any issue becomes fair game to nail a politician on.

I bet Haley swallowed hard when she heard the firestorm around Perry's history.



Title: Re: Perry Regretting HPV Vaccine Mandate
Post by: Pandora on September 19, 2011, 04:55:51 PM
I'll bet she did, and rightly so.

I'd like to think they're all learning something new about "how much the voter will accept" these days, which is, to my way of thinking, "damn little/you work for us/mind your Ps & Qs".