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Topics => Economy => Topic started by: IronDioPriest on September 06, 2011, 11:54:30 PM

Title: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 06, 2011, 11:54:30 PM
I'm sure the Leftists are shopping for a federal judge to overturn this.

Mich. governor signs 48-month welfare limit (http://news.yahoo.com/mich-governor-signs-48-month-welfare-limit-231915012.html)

Gov. Rick Snyder on Tuesday signed into law a stricter, four-year lifetime limit on cash welfare benefits, prompting advocates for the poor to warn that tens of thousands of residents will find themselves without cash assistance on Oct. 1.

Michigan's first-year Republican chief executive said the state will offer exemptions to the limit for those with a disability who can't work, those who care for a disabled spouse or child and those who are 65 or older and don't qualify for Social Security benefits or receive very low benefits.

More from AP at the link...
Title: Re: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 07, 2011, 12:01:39 AM

Michigan could be a dynamo state.  It has an ideal location for commerce and manufacturing and good farm land too/
So what's the problem Michigan, why did Detroit a prosperous city of 2,000,000 dwindle to a city of 700,000? 
Nobody did this to you.  You did it to yourself. 
Kudos Governor Rick Snyder.

Title: Re: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: Libertas on September 07, 2011, 07:01:57 AM
I don't think a court case can stand.

I'd be more worried about backtracking down the road.  What's law today gets repealed tomorrow...

People need to keep their eye on the ball if they hope to maintain momentum.
Title: Re: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: trapeze on September 07, 2011, 07:06:37 AM
Good try but I can already envision an army of welfare recipients suddenly declared to be permanently disabled. Especially with ADA advocates now pushing for "ugliness" as a disability.

If the system can be scammed it will be scammed.
Title: Re: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 07, 2011, 07:18:40 AM
I don't think a court case can stand.

Idunno Libertas. If a federal court can declare it unconstitutional for a state to prevent non-citizens from receiving welfare benefits, I can easily see a federal court saying that there is a "right" to welfare.

I'd be more worried about backtracking down the road.  What's law today gets repealed tomorrow...

People need to keep their eye on the ball if they hope to maintain momentum.

True enough.
Title: Re: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: Libertas on September 07, 2011, 07:43:00 AM
I don't think a court case can stand.

Idunno Libertas. If a federal court can declare it unconstitutional for a state to prevent non-citizens from receiving welfare benefits, I can easily see a federal court saying that there is a "right" to welfare.

I'd be more worried about backtracking down the road.  What's law today gets repealed tomorrow...

People need to keep their eye on the ball if they hope to maintain momentum.

True enough.


But if the court case gets high enough, it'll get shot down, too many states have done this and there is nothing unconstitutional about it, or of the illegal case, they just haven't got passed the loony lower courts where judge shopping is easier...most Appellate & SCOTUS I think would side with the states.
Title: Re: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: ToddF on September 07, 2011, 07:59:19 AM
You know, I like red meat as much as anybody but that really is small potatoes in the whole budget thing.  Impress me governor.  How about a bill to limit state employees from collecting welfare, until they're age 67, just like the rest of us.  THAT is what is killing budgets.
Title: Re: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: Alphabet Soup on September 07, 2011, 09:16:05 AM
You know, I like red meat as much as anybody but that really is small potatoes in the whole budget thing.  Impress me governor.  How about a bill to limit state employees from collecting welfare, until they're age 67, just like the rest of us.  THAT is what is killing budgets.

...and no double-dipping.
Title: Re: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: Damn_Lucky on September 07, 2011, 04:19:55 PM
You know, I like red meat as much as anybody but that really is small potatoes in the whole budget thing.  Impress me governor.  How about a bill to limit state employees from collecting welfare, until they're age 67, just like the rest of us.  THAT is what is killing budgets.

...and no double-dipping.
It's the double-dipping that really pisses me off.
I work for a community college and I bet 1/2 the adjuncts are 6 months retired and back for more. ::gaah:: ::cussing::
Title: Re: WOW. Michigan governor signs law capping welfare benefits at 48 months
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 07, 2011, 09:58:11 PM

Michigan's first-year Republican chief executive said the state will offer exemptions to the limit for those with a disability who can't work, those who care for a disabled spouse or child and those who are 65 or older and don't qualify for Social Security benefits or receive very low benefits.



Well, who the hell is left to be affected by this law? ::facepalm::