It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => General Board => Topic started by: jpatrickham on September 07, 2011, 08:43:22 AM
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Wednesday, 07 September 2011 05:35 JB Williams
As the political left drives the U.S. economy towards the brink of no return and an increasing number of average Americans find themselves in desperate financial situations, crime is on the rise and social tensions are rocketing towards a historic level in the land of milk and honey.
Yes, I am predicting the Second American Civil War, but only because the political left is working around the clock to incite outright socio-economic and race warfare in America.
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Unlike any prior American administration, this one is intentionally destroying what’s left of America’s free-market prosperity and now they are openly calling for all-out war on all patriotic Americans. Obama’s civilian army is ready to roll in the streets of the U.S.A. and as labor union leader Jimmy Hoffa, Jr. put it at a Labor Day weekend rally, “Let’s take these son of a bitchs out!” – telling Barack Obama that “we (labor union members) are your army and we are ready to march.”
President Barack Obama proudly accepts Hoffa’s call for war against the 88% of Americans who do not belong to labor unions.
Days before, leaders of the Democratic Socialist Black Caucus called upon blacks to begin race wars against white Americans in the streets, and make runs on U.S. banks to cause even more economic chaos during the most tumultuous economic time since the Great Depression.
In Cincinnati Ohio, Vice President Joseph Biden spoke to the AFL-CIO referred to patriotic Americans as “barbarians at the gate” and called upon all union thugs to “stand up” against American taxpayers who have been Taxed Enough Already.
Biden claimed that “this is a fight for the heart and soul of the labor movement in America” – and that this is the time for all union thugs to stand a fight against their sworn enemy, the American taxpayer.
Never before in U.S. history has an administration taken such overt actions to create a class/race war in America, using the army they built out of minority groups, without whom, a Democrat Party would not even exist today.
http://www.rightsidenews.com/2011090714444/editorial/us-opinion-and-editorial/are-americans-ready-for-all-out-civil-war.html? (http://www.rightsidenews.com/2011090714444/editorial/us-opinion-and-editorial/are-americans-ready-for-all-out-civil-war.html?)
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The unfortunate reality of any coming unrest is that there is no geographical divide, or clear-cut ways to define an enemy.
As I've said before, who you gonna shoot?
Unless we can turn back the horde at the ballot box, rather than civil war, we will see chaos, seemingly random violence, class warfare, and I fear, government crackdown.
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The unfortunate reality of any coming unrest is that there is no geographical divide, or clear-cut ways to define an enemy.
As I've said before, who you gonna shoot?
Unless we can turn back the horde at the ballot box, rather than civil war, we will see chaos, seemingly random violence, class warfare, and I fear, government crackdown.
The Liberals are making it quite clear who the enemy is. At first they talked as if the Tea Party would burn itself out. When that didn't happen they went at them with a vengeance. We are the Tea Party, this mythical divide the Liberals are trying to portray is everyday Americans, and we own it. They are your Neighbors and Friends. Only difference, they stood when most Americans wouldn't. Now is the time to stand, and if it's war they want, it is war they will get!
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The unfortunate reality of any coming unrest is that there is no geographical divide, or clear-cut ways to define an enemy.
As I've said before, who you gonna shoot?
Unless we can turn back the horde at the ballot box, rather than civil war, we will see chaos, seemingly random violence, class warfare, and I fear, government crackdown.
The Liberals are making it quite clear who the enemy is. At first they talked as if the Tea Party would burn itself out. When that didn't happen they went at them with a vengeance. We are the Tea Party, this mythical divide the Liberals are trying to portray is everyday Americans, and we own it. They are your Neighbors and Friends. Only difference, they stood when most Americans wouldn't. Now is the time to stand, and if it's war they want, it is war they will get!
Yeah, I get that JPat. My point is, when you walk out your door with the intent of making war, outside of your own circle of acquaintance, how are you gonna tell enemy from friend? How do you know who to shoot, and who to trust?
People aren't going to be wearing uniforms, or wearing signs that identify them as liberals. Our country is split, and while one can generalize and say that urban areas are mostly liberal and suburban/rural areas are mostly conservative, that is nothing upon which to base a determination of friend/foe status. Even here in Wright County Minnesota, the most conservative county in Michele Bachmann's district - the county that all but ensures conservative representation for this district - the divide is not even 60%-40%. How would I know who to shoot?
So my point is that "civil war" as we think of it, is very unlikely to occur. It will more likely come in the form of societal breakdown, and government asserting control in the aftermath.
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Although, it doesn't take a majority to win a Civil War, the odds are long against us winning.
Way longer than the Revolution.
Some random thoughts.
Military is not a sure thing to support us.
The guv has the media behind them to point out the atrocities we commit.
Most have been dumbed down by the public education system
Food will be controlled by the guv and will be used to buy loyalty
Technology gives us Big Brother.
No organization
And as the infomercials say... and lots, lots more
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Yeah, I get that JPat. My point is, when you walk out your door with the intent of making war, outside of your own circle of acquaintance, how are you gonna tell enemy from friend? How do you know who to shoot, and who to trust?
What, you haven't been making lists? ::angel::
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People ascribe omnipotence to the government, and it uses that assumption to its advantage. I don't think reality will bear out any such thing. It's all going to go *poof* one day just like the Mighty Bear, the USSR.
Our side sometimes makes the same mistake the Left does when they're talking about corporations, forgetting that all the traits the ascribe to "the corporations" ultimately come down to individual human beings. The same is true of the government. All it is is a collection of individual human beings who currently get their bread buttered by maintaining its preeminence. That won't always be the case. It's running out of ways to pay for its profligacy and about the only options it will soon have left are outright confiscation and coercion by force of arms.
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Yeah, I get that JPat. My point is, when you walk out your door with the intent of making war, outside of your own circle of acquaintance, how are you gonna tell enemy from friend? How do you know who to shoot, and who to trust?
What, you haven't been making lists? ::angel::
Maybe I can borrow Pandora's.
::hysterical::
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Have faith in God. The enemy will present itself clearly. The enemy is Satan and his followers and they always out themselves mostly inadverdantly as to what their plans are, how they're going to do it and they will identitfy themselves and then you and I will know who is supporting them allowing a line of site to pick them off.
Who knows, it may be a situation much like Beirut. Chances are people will pick up and move to the camps that satisfy their preference.
The election of the next president could spark it all much as it did when no 16 won election. Even then, the DemonRats in the North didn't favor the GOP'ers, they just objected to the secession of the South.
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Yeah, I get that JPat. My point is, when you walk out your door with the intent of making war, outside of your own circle of acquaintance, how are you gonna tell enemy from friend? How do you know who to shoot, and who to trust?
What, you haven't been making lists? ::angel::
Maybe I can borrow Pandora's.
::hysterical::
I certainly remember who voted for the asshat and the rest all where bumber stickers on their car and front lawn.
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As I've said before, who you gonna shoot?
Simple. We do it the same way every regime has done it. A purge. Go get the Democratic voting list and round them up. Make arrangements with the communist regimes of the world- you give us your dissidents, we will give you ours. Those who don't want to leave peacefully, we shoot. And those who think this is unkind or unfair should remember these people would never even have that thought if they were rounding you up.
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Yeah, I get that JPat. My point is, when you walk out your door with the intent of making war, outside of your own circle of acquaintance, how are you gonna tell enemy from friend? How do you know who to shoot, and who to trust?
What, you haven't been making lists? ::angel::
::thumbsup::
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People ascribe omnipotence to the government, and it uses that assumption to its advantage. I don't think reality will bear out any such thing. It's all going to go *poof* one day just like the Mighty Bear, the USSR.
Our side sometimes makes the same mistake the Left does when they're talking about corporations, forgetting that all the traits the ascribe to "the corporations" ultimately come down to individual human beings. The same is true of the government. All it is is a collection of individual human beings who currently get their bread buttered by maintaining its preeminence. That won't always be the case. It's running out of ways to pay for its profligacy and about the only options it will soon have left are outright confiscation and coercion by force of arms.
Balkanization. A fractured nation ripe for foreign intrigue and adventure...the ultimate looters paradise. We freedom-loving God-fearing liberty-yearning people will be fortunate to coalesce into one or more strongholds with which to preserve our way of life...
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War is a term for conflict. America is in conflict like it or not. Liberals have taken over our Federal Government, actually, for the first time. The Democratic Party no longer exists as we know it. Liberals are just as bad as any Ideology ever, in fact much worse. Liberals have the power to enslave, or destroy this Planet.
The United States is the last vestige for sanity in the World and it's demise would surely plunge the World into another Dark Ages. What we do today, and in the coming Months until election, is maybe the most important time since the birth of Jesus Christ. War, we are in it whether we like it or not. We must not loose it!
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Yeah, I get that JPat. My point is, when you walk out your door with the intent of making war, outside of your own circle of acquaintance, how are you gonna tell enemy from friend? How do you know who to shoot, and who to trust?
What, you haven't been making lists? ::angel::
Maybe I can borrow Pandora's.
::hysterical::
SSSHHHHHH!
Tsk, blabbermouth ........ ::falldownshocked::
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By their fruits, you'll know them.
Glock wrote: "... government ... is a collection of individual human beings who currently get their bread buttered by maintaining its preeminence. That won't always be the case. It's running out of ways to pay for its profligacy and about the only options it will soon have left are outright confiscation and coercion by force of arms."
That applies right to the local level.
Example: a local someone, but unknown to me personally, recently insisted that property revaluations should not be done soon because, as "high end homes" have decreased more in value than "low end homes", tax decreases would fall disproportionately to the "high-enders" and that wouldn't be fair.
Persons like this will reveal themselves when the time comes to make certain, more vital decisions and will be in groups willing to use force to see their course is followed.
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The unfortunate reality of any coming unrest is that there is no geographical divide, or clear-cut ways to define an enemy.
As I've said before, who you gonna shoot?
Unless we can turn back the horde at the ballot box, rather than civil war, we will see chaos, seemingly random violence, class warfare, and I fear, government crackdown.
The Liberals are making it quite clear who the enemy is. At first they talked as if the Tea Party would burn itself out. When that didn't happen they went at them with a vengeance. We are the Tea Party, this mythical divide the Liberals are trying to portray is everyday Americans, and we own it. They are your Neighbors and Friends. Only difference, they stood when most Americans wouldn't. Now is the time to stand, and if it's war they want, it is war they will get!
Yeah, I get that JUst. My point is, when you walk out your door with the intent of making war, outside of your own circle of acquaintance, how are you gonna tell enemy from friend? How do you know who to shoot, and who to trust?
People aren't going to be wearing uniforms, or wearing signs that identify them as liberals. Our country is split, and while one can generalize and say that urban areas are mostly liberal and suburban/rural areas are mostly conservative, that is nothing upon which to base a determination of friend/foe status. Even here in Wright County Minnesota, the most conservative county in Michele Bachmann's district - the county that all but ensures conservative representation for this district - the divide is not even 60%-40%. How would I know who to shoot?
So my point is that "civil war" as we think of it, is very unlikely to occur. It will more likely come in the form of societal breakdown, and government asserting control in the aftermath.
My Father, and just about all my Uncles fought in WWII. My Grandfather was in the Rainbow Division in WWI. My Great Great Uncle fought in the Civil War and was awarded the Medal Of Honor. Now, here I am a Baby Boomer," who's Generation really cluster fudged this Country up.
Now, my Sons Generation is made up of "The Greatest Generation" types, and General Fudge Ups even worse than my Generation. It is either NOW or never. If Obama wins another term, game over. Couldn't possibly survive four more years.
Anybody wonder how survivors of WWII feel now? I am ashamed, all they sacrificed was in vain if we continue down this road. I am to blame, as is all Baby Boomers, and beyond. We all are responsible for our here and now. We need our now to mean something. So our Grandchildren and there's, realise what the sacrifices made in WWII, were about!
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If Obama wins another term, game over.
Yup.
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The unfortunate reality of any coming unrest is that there is no geographical divide, or clear-cut ways to define an enemy.
As I've said before, who you gonna shoot?
Unless we can turn back the horde at the ballot box, rather than civil war, we will see chaos, seemingly random violence, class warfare, and I fear, government crackdown.
The Liberals are making it quite clear who the enemy is. At first they talked as if the Tea Party would burn itself out. When that didn't happen they went at them with a vengeance. We are the Tea Party, this mythical divide the Liberals are trying to portray is everyday Americans, and we own it. They are your Neighbors and Friends. Only difference, they stood when most Americans wouldn't. Now is the time to stand, and if it's war they want, it is war they will get!
Yeah, I get that JUst. My point is, when you walk out your door with the intent of making war, outside of your own circle of acquaintance, how are you gonna tell enemy from friend? How do you know who to shoot, and who to trust?
People aren't going to be wearing uniforms, or wearing signs that identify them as liberals. Our country is split, and while one can generalize and say that urban areas are mostly liberal and suburban/rural areas are mostly conservative, that is nothing upon which to base a determination of friend/foe status. Even here in Wright County Minnesota, the most conservative county in Michele Bachmann's district - the county that all but ensures conservative representation for this district - the divide is not even 60%-40%. How would I know who to shoot?
So my point is that "civil war" as we think of it, is very unlikely to occur. It will more likely come in the form of societal breakdown, and government asserting control in the aftermath.
My Father, and just about all my Uncles fought in WWII. My Grandfather was in the Rainbow Division in WWI. My Great Great Uncle fought in the Civil War and was awarded the Medal Of Honor. Now, here I am a Baby Boomer," who's Generation really cluster fudged this Country up.
Now, my Sons Generation is made up of "The Greatest Generation" types, and General Fudge Ups even worse than my Generation. It is either NOW or never. If Obama wins another term, game over. Couldn't possibly survive four more years.
Anybody wonder how survivors of WWII feel now? I am ashamed, all they sacrificed was in vain if we continue down this road. I am to blame, as is all Baby Boomers, and beyond. We all are responsible for our here and now. We need our now to mean something. So our Grandchildren and there's, realise what the sacrifices made in WWII, were about!
This may sound bad but I have actually prayed that God knocks off Obozo!! ::rockets::
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There ARE More of US than Them: The Oath Keepers Oath
.The Oath Keeper's Oath:
March 3rd, 2009
Declaration Of Orders We Will Not Obey
Orders We Will Not Obey
“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army” -- Gen. George Washington, to his troops before the battle of Long Island
Such a time is near at hand again. The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this Army -- and this Marine Corps, This Air Force, This Navy and the National Guard and police units of these sovereign states.
Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, peace officers, fire-fighters, and veterans who swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic … and meant it. We won’t “just follow orders.”
Below is our declaration of orders we will NOT obey because we will consider them unconstitutional (and thus unlawful) and immoral violations of the natural rights of the people. Such orders would be acts of war against the American people by their own government, and thus acts of treason. We will not make war against our own people. We will not commit treason. We will defend the Republic.
Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey
Recognizing that we each swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and affirming that we are guardians of the Republic, of the principles in our Declaration of Independence, and of the rights of our people, we affirm and declare the following:
1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.
The attempt to disarm the people on April 19, 1775 was the spark of open conflict in the American Revolution. That vile attempt was an act of war, and the American people fought back in justified, righteous self-defense of their natural rights. Any such order today would also be an act of war against the American people, and thus an act of treason. We will not make war on our own people, and we will not commit treason by obeying any such treasonous order.
Nor will we assist, or support any such attempt to disarm the people by other government entities, either state or federal.
In addition, we affirm that the purpose of the Second Amendment is to preserve the military power of the people so that they will, in the last resort, have effective final recourse to arms and to the God of Hosts in the face of tyranny. Accordingly, we oppose any and all further infringements on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. In particular we oppose a renewal of the misnamed “assault-weapons” ban or the enactment of H.R. 45 (which would register and track gun owners like convicted pedophiles).
2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects -- such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.
One of the causes of the American Revolution was the use of “writs of assistance,” which were essentially warrantless searches because there was no requirement of a showing of probable cause to a judge, and the first fiery embers of American resistance were born in opposition to those infamous writs. The Founders considered all warrantless searches to be unreasonable and egregious. It was to prevent a repeat of such violations of the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects that the Fourth Amendment was written.
We expect that sweeping warrantless searches of homes and vehicles, under some pretext, will be the means used to attempt to disarm the people.
3. We will NOT obey any order to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to trial by military tribunal.
One of the causes of the American Revolution was the denial of the right to jury trial, the use of admiralty courts (military tribunals) instead, and the application of the laws of war to the colonists. After that experience, and being well aware of the infamous Star Chamber in English history, the Founders ensured that the international laws of war would apply only to foreign enemies, not to the American people. Thus, the Article III Treason Clause establishes the only constitutional form of trial for an American, not serving in the military, who is accused of making war on his own nation. Such a trial for treason must be before a civilian jury, not a tribunal.
The international laws of war do not trump our Bill of Rights. We reject as illegitimate any such claimed power, as did the Supreme Court in Ex Parte Milligan (1865). Any attempt to apply the laws of war to American civilians, under any pretext, such as against domestic “militia” groups the government brands “domestic terrorists,” is an act of war and an act of treason.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state, or to enter with force into a state, without the express consent and invitation of that state’s legislature and governor.
One of the causes of the American Revolution was the attempt “to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power” by disbanding the Massachusetts legislature and appointing General Gage as “military governor.” The attempt to disarm the people of Massachusetts during that martial law sparked our Revolution. Accordingly, the power to impose martial law – the absolute rule over the people by a military officer with his will alone being law – is nowhere enumerated in our Constitution.
Further, it is the militia of a state and of the several states that the Constitution contemplates being used in any context, during any emergency within a state, not the standing army.
The imposition of martial law by the national government over a state and its people, treating them as an occupied enemy nation, is an act of war. Such an attempted suspension of the Constitution and Bill of Rights voids the compact with the states and with the people.
Patrick Henry: “Give me Liberty, or Give me DEATH!”
Tyrants know that the pen of a man such as Thomas Paine can cause them more damage than entire armies, and thus they always seek to suppress the natural rights of speech, association, and assembly. Without freedom of speech, the people will have no recourse but to arms. Without freedom of speech and conscience, there is no freedom.
Therefore, we will not obey or support any orders to suppress or violate the right of the people to speak, associate, worship, assemble, communicate, or petition government for the redress of grievances.
— And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually affirm our oath and pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor. Oath Keepers
The above list is not exhaustive but we do consider them to be clear tripwires – they form our “line in the sand,” and if we receive such orders, we will not obey them. Further, we will know that the time for another American Revolution is nigh. If you the people decide that you have no recourse, and such a revolution comes, at that time, not only will we NOT fire upon our fellow Americans who righteously resist such egregious violations of their God given rights, we will join them in fighting against those who dare attempt to enslave them.
NOTE: please also read our Principles of Our Republic We Are Sworn to Defend
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BE ENCOURAGED.
BE CONSERVATIVE.
WIN.
-Admin II Rev. Larry Wallenmeyer.
"Disobedience to tyrants is Obedience to God." -Benjamin Franklin.
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If Obama wins another term, game over.
Yup.
Nah, that's when the games begin. While the success of a revolution is certainly in question, for many of the reasons already listed, I would suspect that at least half of the military would defect - leaving both sides pretty evenly matched. There is already tech available that would ensure some Internet communications would remain up, and quite frankly, I expect that Americans aren't as dumb as your typical Islamic jihadist. American revolutionaries aren't going to attack civilian targets directly, but rather sabotage and harass in a way that leaves the govt unable to function. If false forms and filings prevent the IRS and other agencies from getting to the real ones, then the government is seen to not serve. Think about your own work - if you wanted to ensure XYZ project did not complete, could you do it? Could you do it without taking the blame for it? The leftists don't, never have and never will, understand how fragile the world they live in is, and how much it depends on people NOT WANTING to mess things up.
Those who have "faith" in government need to be shown not to, and revolutionaries will think of thousands of ways to do Denial of Service attacks and misdirect resources both from without and within a bureaucracy - people in the Soviet Union did it all of the time - and the people of America are WAY, WAY too spoiled to put up with what the Russians put up with. A government requires voluntary compliance- there are not enough police or soldiers available to deal with it if even 40% of the population decides to disobey. And if shots are fired in a Tiananmen Square event, and if that becomes widespread knowledge, I would suspect that would only galvanize and justify the revolutionary cause and bring the Country into a full blown armed conflict with geographic battle lines, makeshift uniforms ( I vote for Brown Coats) and then we will know who to shoot. I would expect the same to occur if a U.N. "peacekeeping" force were deployed. Even then, those behind enemy lines can continue the DOS attacks and cause Katrina like "disasters" that compromise public services, but which don't directly cause civilian damage- just watch the government not respond effectively and any deaths that occur will be their fault - not the fault of a saboteur who "only" took out a major water line wth no collateral damage.
America may not remain whole, and I may end up living in the Republic of Deseret, or we may lose her entirely. But one way or another, I am going to my maker having made them pay for what they took.
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Yeah, I get that JPat. My point is, when you walk out your door with the intent of making war, outside of your own circle of acquaintance, how are you gonna tell enemy from friend? How do you know who to shoot, and who to trust?
What, you haven't been making lists? ::angel::
Maybe I can borrow Pandora's.
::hysterical::
Hey I want a copy. ::exitstageleft::
SSSHHHHHH!
Tsk, blabbermouth ........ ::falldownshocked::
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Actually we have been in a Civil War, with emphasis on 'Civil!' Now of course we have seen violence with Race Riots and who could forget the civil disobedience during the Vietnam War?
Now, we have Liberals in the name of Justice, trying to take down the last vestige of stability in the World, and for what? If shooting starts, let it be with the other side. let it be known, it ends there. If they start it we must finish it, oh, by the way, you will know who 'They' are!
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I believe we've been in the cold part of a civil war for some time now; going hot now in increments.
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I believe we've been in the cold part of a civil war for some time now; going hot now in increments.
Something is going to pop between now and election. Just don't see any other way!
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As I've said before, who you gonna shoot?
Easy for me. I'll be busy being trying to be self sufficient so I won't be looking for trouble. But I WILL protect my family and what's mine.
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As I've said before, who you gonna shoot?
Easy for me. I'll be busy being trying to be self sufficient so I won't be looking for trouble. But I WILL protect my family and what's mine.
I was thinking along the same lines. When the slackers and those of the parasite class can't get to their government goodies, believe me, they are gonna come after yours. Hungrily and stupidly.
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I believe it will be easy to identify the enemy.....They will be clad in turbins...obama isn't gonna call on the union brotherhood, he will eventually call on the muslim brotherhood. He is using unions today, but in the end, we will not be fighting a union rube. It may begin this way, but it surely will not end in this manner.
I believe many Americans will wake up to the fact they were used. There will be a line, literally, in the sand. The economic malaise he is draging us is only the beginning. Liberals are just too stupid to realize they are being used.
This is all gonna end up as a "christian" and muslim battle.
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The unthinkable (Obama reelection) might be the flare igniting the final reckoning, but if the proglodytes think I'm gonna go quietly into that goodnight and accept their tyranny they gonna be disappointed...
I'm with Weisshaupt on the Galt move, you're just a wee bit more advanced in that regard than I!
::thumbsup::
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I don't know who coined the phrase "Cold Civil War", but I remember seeing it several years ago, during the Bush 43 administration.
I've been predicting civil war (the hot kind) from the moment Obama was elected. The reason is simple: When half of the population tries to ram Communism down the throats of the other half, who want no part of it, conflict is inevitable.
I have no patience for those who call Obama stupid or a failure. They are fools. I have always believed that he is deliberately causing as much chaos and destruction as possible. It's the Cloward-Piven strategy on a national scale. Obama clearly hates America, capitalism, and the white race. His every move has been calculated to offend and outrage us whenever possible. He and Michelle live like Third World dictators, in ostentatious luxury, while more and more Americans suffer from the consequences of his destructive economic policies. This is not accidental. They are rubbing our faces in it at every opportunity. You can hear the hostility in his voice whenever he speaks.
He believes that America and white people are evil, that we have become wealthy at the expense of brown people in the Third World, and it is time for us to be taken down a peg or two. This is a commonplace belief among leftists. As an ex-slave said at the end of the Civil War, "Bottom rail on top now, massa." Likewise, every Marxist regime in history has targeted the middle class (aka the "bourgeoisie") for destruction and confiscation of wealth.
The recent efforts to describe Tea Partiers as racists, terrorists, barbarians, and economic saboteurs are typical of leftist totalitarians. They are not just demonizing us; they are dehumanizing us. That is what the Nazis did to the Jews and what the Soviets did to the kulaks. The left is whipping up their supporters into a murderous frenzy against those of us deemed the enemy, namely the white middle class.
I agree that things are likely to come to a head before the 2012 election. Widespread street violence may well give the Obama regime an opportunity to declare a state of emergency and postpone the election for the duration of the "emergency". Alternatively, if that doesn't come to pass, I can see the "flash mob" tactic employed in various places on Election Day to throw the election into chaos. An election with a disputed outcome could also serve to incite violence.
I think George Soros would be very pleased to see the fabric of American society torn asunder. It would weaken us as a nation, which is one of his goals.
I've been saying for years that the only things standing in the way of World Government are the American economy and the American military. It can hardly be a coincidence that both are now under full-scale assault from all directions.
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If something is manufactured before the election there will be no emergency power great enough to stop the country from tearing itself apart. In the political environment we've been thrust into thanks to proglodytes run amok a Democrat coup would guarantee the nation goes down a path that will make Bosnia look like a Boy Scout Jamboree! God help those bastards if they try that, I'll not withhold my wrath from them!
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This is all gonna end up as a "christian" and muslim battle.
Good vs evil
Liberals who don't believe in evil will learn it first hand I'm afraid
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Another lesson (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/death-star-pentagon/) for the would be rebels
Admittedly, the Rebel Alliance is looking for the knockout blow against the Empire. But that’s not typically how insurgencies win: They win by compelling empires into counterproductive overspending.
Make them expend their resources. Putting more people on auditing good forms from bad, purging bad info, doing repairs, etc. Drive up the costs. Make them spend to find needles in haystacks. That is how to win.
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Another lesson (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/death-star-pentagon/) for the would be rebels
Admittedly, the Rebel Alliance is looking for the knockout blow against the Empire. But that’s not typically how insurgencies win: They win by compelling empires into counterproductive overspending.
Make them expend their resources. Putting more people on auditing good forms from bad, purging bad info, doing repairs, etc. Drive up the costs. Make them spend to find needles in haystacks. That is how to win.
Cloward-Piven them.
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Cloward-Piven them.
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Right. 342 packages in NYC (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/09/12/security-remains-tight-in-new-york-city-following-10th-anniversary-of-911/) Article doesn't say how many were really checked by bomb squads, or how many were completely false. DOS attacks are effective.
If a terrorist really did plant a bomb, the smarted thing he could od would be for his terrorist network to call in reports of "mysterious packages" all over the city. The chance that the bomb squad turns up at the one actual package with a bomb is small. Better yet, do this every day for a year. Think the bomb squad wouldn't get tired of going out 25 times a day -each time a false alarm? Leaving them time for training or other things that would make them good at their job? Liberals just don't get that "Big" means unwieldy, wasteful and clumsy. You just don't hear big and nimble together. If such a threat were to materialize you would need volunteer minute-men bomb squads. Citizen bomb defusers who could check on the 400+ reports a day and be trained well enough to at least identify a real threat, if not actually disarm it. Think the liberal tyrant powers would ever give citizens that sorT of training/responsibility? Heck no. If they can defuse bombs on their own, they might wonder what else they could do on their own.
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Think the liberal tyrant powers would ever give citizens that sorT of training/responsibility? Heck no. If they can defuse bombs on their own, they might wonder what else they could do on their own.
Do I think? No.
Trained, repeating that -- trained -- volunteer fire-fighters from all over Texas went to Bastrop and environs to help with the fires and the Feds told them to get lost.
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I think it's a fear mongering article. If there is something to be worried about, it's real class warfare in the USA. Trying to stop 1000 people from robbing a bank or grocery store would be difficult let alone showing up and ransacking estate owners belongings. The poor haven't had any organization but I'm not naive enough to think that can't change quickly, and if it does, may God have mercy.
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Cloward-Piven them.
What about a movement to file millions of false tax returns by mail. Just pick up the extra forms, fill them out with bogus names, SS #s, financial info, and turn them in. Make the IRS spend all its time, effort, and energy weeding through millions of tax returns that appear to be filled out properly but lead to nowhere.
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I think it's a fear mongering article. If there is something to be worried about, it's real class warfare in the USA. Trying to stop 1000 people from robbing a bank or grocery store would be difficult let alone showing up and ransacking estate owners belongings. The poor haven't had any organization but I'm not naive enough to think that can't change quickly, and if it does, may God have mercy.
We're already seeing some of that in the urban "flash-mobs". Organized overwhelming of retailers.
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I think it's a fear mongering article. If there is something to be worried about, it's real class warfare in the USA. Trying to stop 1000 people from robbing a bank or grocery store would be difficult let alone showing up and ransacking estate owners belongings. The poor haven't had any organization but I'm not naive enough to think that can't change quickly, and if it does, may God have mercy.
The Bison ranks among this planets most powerful creatures. Once upon a time they ranged the prairies in numbers so vast that they would move in seas of bodies, an endless mass from horizon to horizon. And yet for all that, stone-age savages knew how to channel their energy against themselves, herding them en masse through narrow canyons to their doom.
It's easy to manipulate mobs, but not control them. You can squeeze them like toothpaste, but once out of the tube you can't put them back.
The left and Ø'mugume are fomenting class warfare. They have created a ragtag army of dependent people who have lost the ability to think or fend for themselves. But you cannot push a rope and he can't control an unleashed mob.
Like you, he isn't inclined towards cautionary notes, so I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out. I can guarantee that it isn't going to go the way you think it will, nor the way you'd like.
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Cloward-Piven them.
What about a movement to file millions of false tax returns by mail. Just pick up the extra forms, fill them out with bogus names, SS #s, financial info, and turn them in. Make the IRS spend all its time, effort, and energy weeding through millions of tax returns that appear to be filled out properly but lead to nowhere.
I recommend:
a) Preventing any dna trace - use plastic gloves, glue, sterilized work surface etc.
b) Disguised handwriting, looking competent not required (see next item).
c) Using ethnic names from countries not friendly to us.
::evilbat::
;)
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I think it's a fear mongering article. If there is something to be worried about, it's real class warfare in the USA. Trying to stop 1000 people from robbing a bank or grocery store would be difficult let alone showing up and ransacking estate owners belongings. The poor haven't had any organization but I'm not naive enough to think that can't change quickly, and if it does, may God have mercy.
The Bison ranks among this planets most powerful creatures. Once upon a time they ranged the prairies in numbers so vast that they would move in seas of bodies, an endless mass from horizon to horizon. And yet for all that, stone-age savages knew how to channel their energy against themselves, herding them en masse through narrow canyons to their doom.
It's easy to manipulate mobs, but not control them. You can squeeze them like toothpaste, but once out of the tube you can't put them back.
The left and Ø'mugume are fomenting class warfare. They have created a ragtag army of dependent people who have lost the ability to think or fend for themselves. But you cannot push a rope and he can't control an unleashed mob.
Like you, he isn't inclined towards cautionary notes, so I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out. I can guarantee that it isn't going to go the way you think it will, nor the way you'd like.
I agree.
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I think it's a fear mongering article. If there is something to be worried about, it's real class warfare in the USA. Trying to stop 1000 people from robbing a bank or grocery store would be difficult let alone showing up and ransacking estate owners belongings. The poor haven't had any organization but I'm not naive enough to think that can't change quickly, and if it does, may God have mercy.
You seem to have missed the point. Stopping 1000 people in a Mob is easy. Start shooting them. How long do you think the London riots would have lasted if they called out the military and started blasting? How many people in those mobs were armed and willing to shoot back? They depended on the store owners being unarmed ( Gun control is OSHA for criminals) and the police using non-lethal weapons against them.
The fascists that pull Obama's strings don't want a class war, any more than Hitler did. They just want the useful idiot socialists who follow them to create enough mayhem they can justify a decision to disarm the unruly populace, to establish martial law to "keep us safe". And the useful idiots will be signing up to be in the vanguard. That is your "organization" of the "poor", though "poor" is a bad way to describe them - the "entitled masses with irrational grievances created for the purpose" is more accurate, "suckers" even more so. There is a sucker born every minute.
A brief History lesson:
Don't Be a Sucker - 1947 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk#)
Prejudice is a practical weapon. They will use it against us if they can.
Fear Mongering aside, if there is a civil war, and the interested parties are able to organize this jack booted army, the only way those few of us loyal to the Constitution and the principles of the Founders will be able to effectively fight is to strain their resources, hopefully while keeping from being arrested for having "White Blood"
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"The poor haven't had any organization ... "? That could be taken any number of ways.
I can assure you "the poor", particularly "the urban poor" have been and are being very well organized today by "community activists", otherwise known as communist agitators. Toward whom is it you think Cloward and Piven directed their efforts and from where Duh Wun got his only resume item? Not to mention the ever-more ubiquitous and aforementioned flash-mobs?
So, the article is fear-mongering? We've been in the cold part of a civil war for some time now and it's going hot in small bits right now; I fully expect to see it worsen. Without your permission.
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It's easy to manipulate mobs, but not control them. You can squeeze them like toothpaste, but once out of the tube you can't put them back.
The left and Ø'mugume are fomenting class warfare. They have created a ragtag army of dependent people who have lost the ability to think or fend for themselves. But you cannot push a rope and he can't control an unleashed mob.
Like you, he isn't inclined towards cautionary notes, so I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out. I can guarantee that it isn't going to go the way you think it will, nor the way you'd like.
They will turn on him and anyone else in their way ::guillotine::
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Another type of DOS attack (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128295.600-air-traffic-system-vulnerable-to-cyber-attack.html)
Much of the modern world is designed with the assumption that no one would want to mess things up.
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"I think it's a fear mongering article. If there is something to be worried about, it's real class warfare in the USA. Trying to stop 1000 people from robbing a bank or grocery store would be difficult let alone showing up and ransacking estate owners belongings. The poor haven't had any organization but I'm not naive enough to think that can't change quickly, and if it does, may God have mercy."
I keep using this illustration but, it is the best I have seen so far. Before the Verdict was read from the second Rodney King Trial in Los Angeles, a picture was shown in the News Paper of Business Owners standing in long lines to buy Guns at Gun Stores. Verdict came, and no Riots, and no Violence. If that happened in the recent violence in London, I imagine the Anarchists would have thought twice.