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Title: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 11, 2011, 08:19:58 AM
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Just login using the "chatroom login" bar at the bottom of the page. If you'd take a moment beforehand to select your avatar picture before logging in, that will make it easier for others to identify who is currently speaking.

The debate will be on Bloomberg television. Click HERE (http://bloomberg.viewerlink.tv/) to find a Bloomberg Television station in your area.

Apparently it can be watched online HERE (http://www.bloomberg.com/presidential-election-2012/) or HERE (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics).

Charles and I tested the chat function for live-blogging the last debate in Florida, and it seemed to work well. The program is responsive, and not glitchy. The cool part is, after the chat is closed, I can archive the entire session, and post it as a thread.

When Charles and I live-blogged the Florida debate, he was watching on TV, while I was watching online. We figured out that as the debate progressed, he was seeing things earlier and earlier than I was. I think perhaps because the video feed to the website was occasionally buffering, and instead of coming back in at the current moment, it would come back in where it left off, so that by the end of the debate for Charles, I still had about 3 or 4 minutes remaining to watch. Hopefully that won't be the case this evening, as the easiest thing for me to do is watch online on one monitor, while blogging on the other. But if it does lag, I can always pull the laptop to the TV room.

The times are 8 Eastern/7 Central for the debate, and 7 Eastern/6 Central for the pre-debate coverage.

I'm not even sure yet what my availability is this evening,  but I'm going to do my best to be here for the entire debate.

Perhaps if you plan on being here, you might note that in this thread, so we can get a sense of who's likely to show up.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: trapeze on October 11, 2011, 08:38:19 AM
Tonight will be a make or break event for Cain.

The media will be focusing on him now that he is the new "not Romney" candidate. The media has already dispatched both Bachmann and Perry who were the previous "not Romneys" although both of those candidates needed little help to self destruct.

Cain has been gaffe prone on previous occasions and does not show a tendency to be professionally coached so I will have my fingers crossed that he will be on his game tonight more than ever. Cain is it, now. There are no other viable "not Romneys" out there. If he blows it we will be stuck with Romney and it will be all over.

Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 11, 2011, 08:44:09 AM
If I was forced to guess right now, I'd say we're going to be looking at Romney/Cain bumper stickers next year. I really hate to say that. But it is a winning combination.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: trapeze on October 11, 2011, 08:47:28 AM
My preference would be for a Cain/Gingrich pairing.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 11, 2011, 09:00:22 AM
My preference would be for a Cain/Gingrich pairing.

You know what would really eat the libbies alive? Cain/Palin.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: rickl on October 11, 2011, 10:18:59 AM
The Tigers need a win tonight to stay alive.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 11, 2011, 10:40:41 AM
Where on this site do we find the live-chat area?
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 11, 2011, 10:41:31 AM
Where on this site do we find the live-chat area?

Scroll to the bottom of the page, you should see a darker blue bar that says "chatroom login".
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 11, 2011, 10:50:13 AM
Scroll to the bottom of the page, you should see a darker blue bar that says "chatroom login".

I just made the attempt... does it only work at the set-aside times that the forum admins turn on the chat feature?  I logged in and it just sent me to the home page of the forum.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 11, 2011, 10:52:03 AM
Hmmm... it should work anytime. I have a window open in there right now, just to see if you popped in.

If it's worth it to you, try closing out of your browser and opening back up and trying again. I seem to remember having a similar problem several months ago, and it kind of just "went away".
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 11, 2011, 11:09:05 AM

Carl Cameron is talking up the debate.  Romney 44%  Cain 13%  Perry 13%. 
The current polls and these caucus votes only represent how the people in
the room feel.  Rasmussen is the only believable poll.  The MSM is pushing
the OTR which is true, more so than they understand.  I think Romney can win
the debates and lose the primary.   

All the best to Cain and Romney



 
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 11, 2011, 11:25:46 AM
Hopefully Cain can clarify his empowerment zones and alleviate some anxiety we have over just hearing those words uttered together.

Our current discussion on this subject -

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,3299.0.html (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,3299.0.html)
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 11, 2011, 02:04:03 PM
Just bumping this to make sure people see it. I'll bump it periodically throughout the day, just to keep it on the recent post list.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Pandora on October 11, 2011, 02:14:40 PM
Hmmm... it should work anytime. I have a window open in there right now, just to see if you popped in.

If it's worth it to you, try closing out of your browser and opening back up and trying again. I seem to remember having a similar problem several months ago, and it kind of just "went away".

That works.

Unfortunately, I will be unable to participate -- activities between 8-10 pm are usually restricted.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 11, 2011, 02:19:52 PM
Just bumping this to make sure people see it. I'll bump it periodically throughout the day, just to keep it on the recent post list.

It is my intent to attend.  Life though may interject reality upon my plans.. but if I can make it happen; I'll be here.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 11, 2011, 02:36:54 PM
Just bumping this to make sure people see it. I'll bump it periodically throughout the day, just to keep it on the recent post list.

It is my intent to attend.  Life though may interject reality upon my plans.. but if I can make it happen; I'll be here.

I'm in the same boat. My younger boy has a football game that goes until 6:30. Depending on what we do for dinner.... But if I can. I'll be here.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 11, 2011, 09:20:40 PM
IronDioPriest: logs in on 10/7/2011 10:08 pm (ct).
IronDioPriest: logs in on 10/11/2011 10:42 am (ct).
IronDioPriest: knock knock. this thing on?
Delnorin: logs in on 10/11/2011 10:52 am (ct).
Delnorin: Ah, there we go.. totally worked this time. Thanks Iron.
IronDioPriest: logs in on 10/11/2011 10:52 am (ct).
IronDioPriest: yeah, cool
IronDioPriest: I just had the exact same glitch as you
IronDioPriest: I closed out and tried to re-enter, and got redirected to the home page. closed the browser, and tried again, and here I am
Delnorin: There is comfort in knowing you are not alone.. but sometimes.. say.. when we are all getting screwed-over.. it's good to know that at least someone isn't.
IronDioPriest: heh
IronDioPriest: yup
IronDioPriest: you gonna try to be here this eve?
Delnorin: I'm working this evening.. what time is the event?
IronDioPriest: It starts at 8 Eastern
IronDioPriest: so... what's that, 6 mountain?
IronDioPriest: you in mountain time?
Delnorin: Ah.. nice... I had the +/- 3 hours thing backwards.. 8 Eastern is 5 here in Arizona (right now). I'll be here (subject to catastrophic events at work).
IronDioPriest: cool.
Delnorin: Hopefully the video/link of the event isn't blocked by the town firewalls.
IronDioPriest: why would it be?
Delnorin: I can see if more than 2-3 people are in this chat room.. the comments will scroll by too fast to read. I need to adjust higher than 10 lines.
Delnorin: The town likes to block video streaming on the firewall when they stumble across feeds like that.
IronDioPriest: yup. I think 30 was what I settled on last time
Delnorin: Relogging in with new line #.
IronDioPriest: so your broadband comes through the town as your ISP?
Delnorin: logs in on 10/11/2011 10:58 am (ct).
Delnorin: Whoops.. must be a way to log off instead of just closing the window... it didn't change when I moved it to 30.
IronDioPriest: hmmm...
IronDioPriest: lemme try
IronDioPriest: logs in on 10/11/2011 10:59 am (ct).
Delnorin: AFK.. bio break... breakfast.. duties around the house. Time to get the daughter up and teach her some science (homeschool).
IronDioPriest: so, I think it starts the new number going forward
Delnorin: Ah okay
IronDioPriest: talk to you later on
Delnorin: Ah.. there -is- an "exit" button under this typing window.. that's probably the way I should depart.
Delnorin: logs off on 10/11/2011 11:01 am (ct).
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Pandora: logs in on 10/11/2011 2:13 pm (ct).
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Damn_Lucky: logs in on 10/11/2011 4:04 pm (ct).
Damn_Lucky: Hopefully I'll be back @7
Damn_Lucky: logs off on 10/11/2011 4:05 pm (ct).
IronDioPriest: logs in on 10/11/2011 4:39 pm (ct).
Charles Oakwood: logs in on 10/11/2011 5:23 pm (ct).
Charles Oakwood: logs in on 10/11/2011 5:24 pm (ct).
Charles Oakwood: Christie and Romney just asked Perry to walk that preacherman back
Charles Oakwood: logs off on 10/11/2011 5:26 pm (ct).
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Charles Oakwood: logs in on 10/11/2011 6:00 pm (ct).
Charles Oakwood: The show is on
Charles Oakwood: It's at the college and in front of a bunch of college chanters
Damn_Lucky: logs in on 10/11/2011 6:02 pm (ct).
Charles Oakwood: Freaking out Al Hunt and Matt Dowd, Is he Maurine's wife?
Damn_Lucky: Sorry guys and gals but I hade too much fun at Kansas City Raceway this weekend.............Good night and God Bless.
Charles Oakwood: It's chant city, yuck
IronDioPriest: logs in on 10/11/2011 6:29 pm (ct).
IronDioPriest: College chanters... should be a healthy quantity of PaulBots.
IronDioPriest: logs in on 10/11/2011 6:32 pm (ct).
Charles Oakwood: I can't take that bs. Sitting it out until 8.
Delnorin: logs in on 10/11/2011 6:34 pm (ct).
Delnorin: Ah.. working on my personal laptop.. just the city Windows XP (outdated) won't bring up the chat.
IronDioPriest: XP won't handle the chat applet??
Delnorin: I hope the chanters actually allow the candidates to be heard when they answer the questions.
Delnorin: XP: Not the town's comp.. it's three steps below lame.
Delnorin: This guy has some serious vulcan eyebrows.
IronDioPriest: hehe
Delnorin: Bow ties are becoming the new parachute pants.
Delnorin: Cool.. the guy on the remote being interviews.. has a radio voice all the time.... Big Big sales down at Yosemite Auto Sales!! Sorry.. voices crack me up sometimes.
Delnorin: It'd be nice if they put up the name on the teli of who's talking... They're three random strangers to me so far.
IronDioPriest: oooh, this guy is Austin Goolsbee
IronDioPriest: Obama's former economic advisor.
IronDioPriest: wonderful
IronDioPriest: This guy's full of scat
IronDioPriest: I predict a Leftist disruption to the debate
IronDioPriest: I'm on record
Charles Oakwood: Seems as is this is going to be the gotcha debate. Well another different observation
IronDioPriest: Like your new avatar CHarles
Delnorin: The whole 'gotcha' theme is disgusting... running for a bottle of water.. brb.
Delnorin: Who is sponsoring this debate?
Delnorin: Ah.. I think it's the Washington Post and Bloomburg sponsoring it.
Delnorin: The poll on http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics) is retarded.. you can't vote for you want and they turn the results into a joke as if they are mocking the cannidates.
IronDioPriest: Frikkin Charlie Rose
IronDioPriest: never forgive him for his shameless attack on Palin
IronDioPriest: why on earth do pubbies agree to enter into hostile territory for these debates
IronDioPriest: oh yeah, forgot about newt
IronDioPriest: 999 baby
Charles Oakwood: Thanks
Delnorin: 999 brought up already.. cool.
Charles Oakwood: say nol
Delnorin: It's frustrating that our candidates have to enter "Lion's Dens" as raw meat to be heard. The communists own the media.
IronDioPriest: Perry seems like his mind vacates the premises
Charles Oakwood: he just said Cut the EPA
IronDioPriest: did he? I missed it because I was focusing on the blank look in his eyes
IronDioPriest: Rose looks evil
Charles Oakwood: old drunk
Delnorin: He looks like Voldemort's lackie.
IronDioPriest: hehe
IronDioPriest: romney sure is polished
Charles Oakwood: slick
Delnorin: Oh please.. don't make me count the "ugh" the Perry uses tonight... I'd have to use exponential notation.
Charles Oakwood: dereggalate
IronDioPriest: will he say nucular?
IronDioPriest: she's purty
Charles Oakwood: gorgeous
Delnorin: Snortlaugh... the damage the executives did?... there!!! Bachman nailed it!
IronDioPriest: let her answer, dipstick
Delnorin: The Feds forced the banks to do what they did.
Delnorin: Kick A$$.. she nailed that answer!
IronDioPriest: yes she ddid
Charles Oakwood:
Charles Oakwood: `
Charles Oakwood:
Charles Oakwood: 1!
Delnorin: Bachmann: 1 point.
IronDioPriest: !!!!!!!!!!!
Charles Oakwood: yes
IronDioPriest: Newt says what Rickl's been saying
Delnorin: Not every american has a reason to be angry. If you voted in Obama and sat on your butt your whole life wanting a hand out.. and now are there to get attention... no.. they don't have a right to be angry. They caused the crap they are sitting in.
IronDioPriest: Leftists plus Tea Party
IronDioPriest: Newt really pisses me off. He's so damn good and smart. But he's so political
Delnorin: Amen Iron.
IronDioPriest: !!!!!!!!
IronDioPriest: Newt Hammered it
Delnorin: Is Ron's right eyebrow falling off?
IronDioPriest: hehe
IronDioPriest: heheheheheh
Delnorin: I love his tie.
IronDioPriest: ROTFLMAOOL!
Charles Oakwood: artificial booms END THE FED
IronDioPriest: dont disagree with anything Paul said'
Delnorin: Wow.. pretty lady.
IronDioPriest: Pretty Leftist
IronDioPriest: good answer santorum
Delnorin: I hate that.. all leftist should be ugly. A person's outward appearance should mirror their soul.
IronDioPriest: yup
IronDioPriest: what was Perry's look??
IronDioPriest: did like Hunstman's fart joke?
Charles Oakwood: he's uncomfortable, Fishbowl got bigger
Delnorin: His look I think was a hemoroid flare up.
Delnorin: He had that painful shifting hole on fire look.
Delnorin: Is this reporter in red Helen Thomas' sister?
IronDioPriest: way too pretty
Delnorin:
Charles Oakwood: death panels
Charles Oakwood: take two aspirin and call in the morning
IronDioPriest: good answer.
IronDioPriest: I hate to say it, but I have to wonder if that conversation with Obama really took place
IronDioPriest: huntsman is a good opportunity to take a leak... BRB
Delnorin: I'm not sure I like this format.. I like to hear the question and then the answer.. not the bouncing around chaos.
Charles Oakwood: charlie needs a drink
Delnorin: Cain has class.
IronDioPriest: hahaha... asshat
Charles Oakwood: abolish the IRS who's going to say it?
IronDioPriest: was hunstman just talking? I thought it was my daughter's talking Ken doll
Charles Oakwood: same same
Delnorin: I really hate the way the established candidates treat the others.. they laugh for 15 seconds into Paul's turn.. and look condescending as Cain talks.
Delnorin: Say it.... get rid of the IRS
IronDioPriest: nice way he addressed hunstmans slam
IronDioPriest: ...and I'm hot....
IronDioPriest: thought bubble above romney's head... damn, you're hot...
Charles Oakwood: roledex answer #3
Delnorin: The lady annoys me... Romney.. what are you going to do about the economy now that Bush destroyed it? (facepalm)
IronDioPriest: he's damn slick
Charles Oakwood: he's been practicing for 7 years
IronDioPriest: yup
Delnorin: 4 years.. then flush. TERM LIMITS.
Charles Oakwood: yeah we're on the precip..
Delnorin: If you're so slick that you can sound amazing and still screw someone over.. you're too good a politician and should depart.
IronDioPriest: Rose is such a douche
Charles Oakwood: well charlie I'll pick you
IronDioPriest: I think Romney's convincing the "bundlers" that he's the one
IronDioPriest: Cain bolsters the notion that he's in Romney's back pocket
Delnorin: I think this would be fun: Keep mentioning other candidates in a round-robin manner... so they can keep their 30 second rebuttles going around so they can just ignore the moderators and have a substinative debate on their own.
Charles Oakwood: Herman, we're engraving your Tees
Delnorin: Abolish the FEd... awesome Newt!
Charles Oakwood: all messed up
IronDioPriest: He's right
IronDioPriest: break time
IronDioPriest: nice ominous music
IronDioPriest: no happy thoughts
Delnorin: Why when Paul says something that is so right-on and everyone knows it's 100% true... do people then laugh and shrug it off? it's like some serious inability to deal with a problem.. we're talking honest drug-addict denial.
Charles Oakwood: Are CR and BF close friends?
Charles Oakwood: That allows them to call RP nuts.
Delnorin: Did this boy just say "Americo?" heh.. interesting idea...
IronDioPriest: good debate so far
IronDioPriest: I think Romney is solidifying
Delnorin: I'm a bit slow I guess... most of the debate is going over my head.
IronDioPriest: Perry is diminishing
IronDioPriest: Cain hasn't hurt himsle
IronDioPriest: fself
IronDioPriest: Bachmann is reminding peopole why they supprted her before she blew up
IronDioPriest: newt is on fire
Delnorin: Bachman's utter slam of the government being the cause of the banks loans/issues.. was incredible. Otherwise I'm hearing careful answers that don't impress me.
Charles Oakwood: She has made a better turn than the rest
Delnorin: Someone mentioned her and some medicine and having babies.. what's that about.. I didn't hear anything about that.
IronDioPriest: seriously?
Delnorin: Yeah.. hadn't heard a word. How long ago did it hit the news?
IronDioPriest: remind me later, I'll fill you in
IronDioPriest: Perry is blowing it
Delnorin: Rebooting chat room laptop.. microsoft update is getting pestering... continuing to watch debate though on work comp... back soon.
IronDioPriest: he's just lackluster
Charles Oakwood: balanced budget amendment - he couldn't make it a money quote
Charles Oakwood: he gets paid by the worfd
IronDioPriest: Newt!
Charles Oakwood: Im a federal tax lawyer zzzzzzzzzzz
IronDioPriest: Capn ed getting some face time!
Delnorin: logs in on 10/11/2011 7:46 pm (ct).
Delnorin: How come whenever Newt wants.. he just raises a finger and starts talking.. and everyone instantly hushes up and sits up straighter?
IronDioPriest: good queestion
Charles Oakwood: he's a teacher
Delnorin: I love his answers. .but still.. what's with the Trump card? Trump.. heh.. sorry.
IronDioPriest: clever michele
Delnorin: Cain clearly said 999 *replaces* the IRS tax code... remove current tax laws.
IronDioPriest: yup
Delnorin: I still want to ask about Empowerment Zones
Charles Oakwood: We're in a trade war gump
IronDioPriest: yup
Delnorin: I think I know why I'm thrown in this debate.. they have like 4 camera angles for each cannidate. You get 3 seconds and then they shift cameras.. I'm confused at where I'm even looking.. let alone who I'm hearing answer what question.
Delnorin: Interesting.. the 'choosen' gets a steady and unshifting camera angle.
Delnorin: spoke too soon.
Charles Oakwood: drill baby drill
Charles Oakwood: dereggalate
IronDioPriest: good for Perry... but it seems like he loses his trainof thought
Charles Oakwood: he can't make it into a money quote
Delnorin: Perry seems to think the answer is get the people making more money that you can take in taxes. Cain's view seems to be.. let people keep some of the money they earn and they'll prosper and make more money and more people will be paying taxes in the first place. I think I like Cain's idea better.
Charles Oakwood: it's turn the dogs of Entrepreneurship loose
Charles Oakwood: and it will right itself
Delnorin: shut up! Your turn is over.
Charles Oakwood: he's a dog
IronDioPriest: what happened to the entirety of Cain's answer?
Delnorin: Bah... break time.. good timing.. IRL work things.. back soon.
IronDioPriest: this oughta be good
IronDioPriest: Sure wish there were a few more than three of us in here
IronDioPriest: I'm gonna make a sammich
Delnorin: back
Delnorin: Creepy music
Charles Oakwood: Pubbies in the house
Delnorin: I still don't know what Pubbies means
IronDioPriest: Oooooohhhh
Charles Oakwood: infantile republicans
IronDioPriest: PErry = Algore supporter
IronDioPriest: he can't string a sentnce together
Charles Oakwood: Second lowest debt per capita in US
IronDioPriest: I see Bush II in Rick Perry
Charles Oakwood: yeah, can't make a money quote
Charles Oakwood: Romney has everybody's plan in his plan, it's a big plan
Charles Oakwood: Herms in the tank
IronDioPriest: What is this? The "Every other candidate gives Mitt a platform to espouse his campaign" section?
Delnorin: Romney just fire up more class warfare?
Charles Oakwood: Me Me pick me for VP
Delnorin: Nothing wrong with a life long political profession? WRONG
Delnorin: Paul is the right one to pressure Cain (and I like Cain) on the Fed. Cain was on a Fed board before.
benb61: logs in on 10/11/2011 8:15 pm (ct).
Delnorin: Ben !
IronDioPriest: Hi Ben
Charles Oakwood: last chance
benb61: Yeah, I'm here
Delnorin: Another question to Romney? Jeeesh
benb61: not watching the debate though
Delnorin: Welcome anyway.
benb61: thnx
Charles Oakwood: my buddy chris
Delnorin: Heh.. mentions Christie.. to remind everyone of the endorsement
benb61: r they beating up on mit yet?
Damn_Lucky: logs in on 10/11/2011 8:17 pm (ct).
Delnorin: Yeah.. they're sending all their questions at Romney.
Delnorin: Hi Lucky!
IronDioPriest: hey, everybody showing up for the end!
Charles Oakwood: Ha he thought Romney was going to answer his question
Charles Oakwood: Better late than never , Welcome
benb61: seems to me that the media wants Romney
Charles Oakwood: big time
benb61: they think obama can beat him
Delnorin: Yeah.. the media already decided Romney's the man.
benb61: shame the sheeple will fall for that
Delnorin: Bachmann started and her question was to Romney.. now Romney's turn and he targets Bachmann... his question though is a softball question to her... he thinking of her as his VP?
IronDioPriest: I just had the same thought
Delnorin: His expression on his face as she answers is hopefull... as if he's hoping she says what they practiced.
IronDioPriest: This is your audition Michele
Delnorin: How many letters match between the two words... Santorum and Scrotum?
IronDioPriest: they're next to each other in the dicktionary
Delnorin: (snortlaugh)
Damn_Lucky: not awake Mama's s home and made me an EGG sand, Jusy eyebowling!
IronDioPriest: But Herman, you won't be president any longer than 8 years
benb61: I got into blooberg just in time for a comercial
Delnorin: Bah.. I need to open up this Trigonometry book and get crack'n soon.
IronDioPriest: that's right, you're a student
IronDioPriest: an old student
IronDioPriest: Who's in the lead
benb61: I gave up on further educating myself
IronDioPriest: Romney had WAYYYYY more face time than anyone
IronDioPriest: Newts answers were the best
Charles Oakwood: yes and yes
Delnorin: I can't subjectively say who's in the lead... some of them open their mouth and I mentally can't give them an honest listen. Newt is impressive as alwasy.. Bachmann slammed an amazing answer about the government forciing the banks to make bad loans to people in housing.. not the evil bankers being the cause... a few other minor things.
IronDioPriest: Cain didn't hurt himself, and I don't think Romney did either
IronDioPriest: Perry is on life support
Charles Oakwood: Santorum worst Perry hasn't helped himself
Delnorin: Agreed.. Cain didn't say anything stupid.. and the others didn't race ahead on anything... I think 4 hours ago and now... no real changes in who's leading.
Charles Oakwood: last chance
IronDioPriest: Chris CHritie in the audience
Charles Oakwood: two chairs
benb61:
Delnorin: We need to use DNA morphing.. a Christie/Bachman/Paul/Cain creature.
IronDioPriest: three - his wife was beside him
Delnorin: With a little Newt also in the DNA.
Delnorin: Helen thomas! RUN!
IronDioPriest: Perry just doesn't have "it"
Damn_Lucky: logs in on 10/11/2011 8:29 pm (ct).
Delnorin: Have it? But it's his turn!
benb61: ststing he pushed tort reform was good
Delnorin: WB Lucky
benb61: stating
Delnorin: Okay... someone put this Julianna Goldman lady in a bikini and have her ask her questions while jumping on a trampoline.
Damn_Lucky: no I'm not \twice
Delnorin: I need to be a producer.
Charles Oakwood: Alan Greenspan?
IronDioPriest: she is a fine specimin
Delnorin: Put a slave collar around her neck and chain her to the ring in the floor at the foot of the bed.. and she'll be just fine. No need to hear her opinions. (heh)
Charles Oakwood: Alan Greenspan was a disaster.
Charles Oakwood: Paul Volker did good.
Delnorin: Greenspan... that man could talk for 10 minutes and then everyone would look at each other and say.... what did he say?
benb61: I hate to say it but "end the fed"
Delnorin: Burn the Fed to the ground and then urinate on the ashes.
Charles Oakwood: Oh, governor Romney?
IronDioPriest: Rose is drunk
Delnorin: Who is Rose? The lady in Red?
IronDioPriest: No, Charlie Rose, the interviewer
Charles Oakwood: I love the bundlers, and the big bank bundlers too
Delnorin: Ah.. last name.. understood. Indeed.. he's wasted.
Charles Oakwood: Jobs and housing destruction act
benb61: dodd/frank can burn in hell
IronDioPriest: they will Ben, they will
Damn_Lucky: Good idea and we'll see you in hell or we need to find a way to fix this CLUSTER F@#K
benb61: we can only hope they understand why.
Delnorin: My answer to the lady's question: We don't want to make it easy for you to get a small business loan. We want it to be hard. We want you to PROVE you are a great investment to our bank. We are not here to give you a handout.
IronDioPriest: Where's Newt?
benb61: I can agree with that
Delnorin: There's newt
IronDioPriest: He hasn't spoken in like... 45 minutes or soemthing
Charles Oakwood: 1 more last chance
Delnorin: Nobody asks Newt a question.. he just raises a finger and interupts when he wants. A wise quiet man makes more an impact than a talkative blabbermouth.
IronDioPriest: the word is in-vest-ment Rick
Charles Oakwood: can't hear him over Red
benb61:
benb61: sorry, trying to add an avatar
IronDioPriest: ah, you have to add your avatar in your profile
benb61: did that but it's not showing
IronDioPriest: isn that Perry?
benb61:
IronDioPriest: Oh, no, Bush
Charles Oakwood: he was making a complete closure and CR cut him off
Charles Oakwood: yeah, no clip of a Perry speach heeeers Newt
Charles Oakwood: I'll be your VP
Charles Oakwood: too
IronDioPriest: Newt is rockin tonight
benb61: Newt is the smartest, but I don"t think he has a chance
IronDioPriest: No, I'm telling you that you're beautiful
IronDioPriest: Idunno, but you're beautiful
benb61: can we get het to take that dress off?
Charles Oakwood: Bloomberg says Americans want to keep entitlements and high taxes
IronDioPriest: poverty as defined by whom?
Charles Oakwood: you have a pres that is a job killer
Charles Oakwood: seal it rick
Charles Oakwood: he made a complete statement
IronDioPriest: Santorum's specialty
IronDioPriest: good advantage of the opening given
Damn_Lucky: Bberg is an IDIOT
IronDioPriest: HWat
IronDioPriest:
Charles Oakwood: best tonight of his
benb61: what was that from the peanut gallery
IronDioPriest: HAHAHAHAHA I called IT!!!!!!
Charles Oakwood: what?
IronDioPriest: Look early in the thread! I called interference by a Leftist at some point!!!
Charles Oakwood: right!
IronDioPriest: Am I good, or what?
IronDioPriest: Do I know my Leftists, or what?
Charles Oakwood: I'm a mother 2xs tonight
IronDioPriest: woot-woot!
benb61: don't break that arm, patting yourself on the back
IronDioPriest: hehe
Charles Oakwood: ::thumbsup::
Damn_Lucky: Late to the game( was napping) how did Cian do
benb61: bold plans got us in this mess
benb61: we need a sensible plan
IronDioPriest: Team Player Newt
Charles Oakwood: make govt as inconsequenc... as possible
benb61: unions drove that steel mnfg out
Damn_Lucky: Paul there really is a BIG world out there
Charles Oakwood: for sure
IronDioPriest: Do they all have a "humble beginnings" story Uh, not Mitt.
Charles Oakwood: Huntsman has a hangnail once
Charles Oakwood: suicide spouse abuse
IronDioPriest: I can't help it. He looks like a hummusexshul
Charles Oakwood: hummmm
Charles Oakwood: shout out to AlanS
benb61: only the people can make america, america. The gov needs to get out of the way
benb61: boom
IronDioPriest: Juliana......
Damn_Lucky: I'm sorry I would not trust my dog with Huntsless
IronDioPriest: well there we have it
IronDioPriest: I think we seee Perry fade, Newt bump up
IronDioPriest: Romney stays in the lead
Damn_Lucky: Hell yes BEN
benb61: Newt does not have the charisma to win
Delnorin: When was Romney in the lead? Other than the media telling us he is?
Charles Oakwood: gNewt has no discipline
benb61: again, I'll say that the media is pushing him cause they think obama can beat him
Delnorin: logs in on 10/11/2011 8:55 pm (ct).
Delnorin: Whoops..w rong tab to close.. back now
Delnorin: Agreed Ben
IronDioPriest: I will go on record saying that Romney did well in the debate. Not to say I prefer him, but je's the best in debate by far
benb61: couple of things scare me about mitt. 1) his faith and 2) romneycare
Delnorin: I really work to put aside the polish (the suave speaking ability).. and look at the substance and ideas. Most voters though don't... so what I think isn't real with actual voting numbers.
Charles Oakwood: Romney, Mr. 60% will throw you under the bus
benb61: Bachmann scares me because of her faith
IronDioPriest: Why ben?
Delnorin: What *is* Bachmann's faith?
IronDioPriest: Luthran
Delnorin: Ah.. didn't know that.
IronDioPriest: What is cary about Lutheran?
benb61: she has made too many stupid statements that can be attributed to her beliefs
Damn_Lucky: Ben no Faith?
benb61: multi faith
benb61: I've studied many different faiths and they all have good points and bad.
Delnorin: I was told to ask again later.. about what happened with Bachman and having babies and some medicine... I didn't hear anything about it until a couple days ago reading this blog.
IronDioPriest: Cain interview
Delnorin: forum.. sorry.. not blog
benb61: I believe in God but think that organized religion is a crock
benb61: religion was created to control people
Delnorin: Most organized religion is an organized strucker meant for it's own power and manipulation of the people. I agree with your statement in a huge way Ben.
Delnorin: strucker=structure
Delnorin: I am absolutely 100% sold out for Jesus Christ... but how man gets into the middle of things with their own rules and bylaws... isn't for me at all. Give me a Bible and other men/women seeking God.. and I'm good to go.
Damn_Lucky: The Truth will Keep All OF US FREE!
Delnorin: The Vulcan is asking questions now.
benb61: I call myself a Benist, not that I believe in me but I believe in doing the right thing because it is the right thing. Cant find any other religion that is that simple
Damn_Lucky: IDP please
Delnorin: What is IDP?
IronDioPriest: That's ME!
IronDioPriest: yes DL?
Delnorin: Oh.. heh.. got it.
benb61: I like Cain because he is not a politician
Charles Oakwood: Romney tax plan is a set of loop holes
Delnorin: I agree with you Ben
Delnorin: I swear this guy in the bow tie is going to put a Vulcan Deathgrip on me.
benb61: but his lack of government experience is an issue
IronDioPriest: He needs some straight bangs on his forehead though
IronDioPriest: and of course the ears
Delnorin: I think lack of government experience could be a huge advantage. He doesn't know what he's not able to do. He might just cross some lines that others would be scared to cross. He might actually fix something.
Delnorin: Straight bangs: Good point
benb61: or he may get bullied by the beltway insiders
IronDioPriest: all vulcans have straight bangs
IronDioPriest: exceot the african american vulcans
benb61: not t"pol
Delnorin: The Vulcan talks like he's trying to hold his weed smoke in his lungs as he talks.
Delnorin: t'pol.... drool
IronDioPriest: mmmm juliana
benb61: i lean twords 7 of 9
benb61: she still has too many cloths on
IronDioPriest: OK, Delnorin, your question re; Congresswoman Bachmann...
Delnorin: Ah yes.. listening
IronDioPriest: Perry mandated gardisil vaccinations against STD virus for all girls, and social cons disn't like it
Delnorin: Side question: Why are all actors/actresses called Actors now? But we still have Congresswoman and congressman...
IronDioPriest: Bachmann hit him on it during a debate
IronDioPriest: after the debate, she said that a woman approached her
IronDioPriest: and said that gardisil made her daughter retarded.
Charles Oakwood: never produced the woman
Delnorin: Perry mandated Texas teen/preteen girls get forced to get vacinated.. I remember that... listening to you more....
benb61: she also made some dumb statement about it causing medical problems with the little girls that get the shot
Delnorin: So it's believed she made up a fiction person to make her point?
IronDioPriest: that iss the rap, yes
Delnorin: Ah.. got it. thanks IDP.
IronDioPriest: yup
IronDioPriest: she's gonna be interviewed next
IronDioPriest: Cain did wwell in his interview BTW
Delnorin: I was surprised and happy that there wasn't a great deal of 'gotcha' moderation.
IronDioPriest: yeah, although the questions were pretty douchy
Delnorin: It was interesting that a great deal of time/effort seemed to be.... Let's see what Romney has to say on this?
benb61: eliminate the tax code
benb61: national sales tax!!!
IronDioPriest: good appearance Michele
benb61: hey guys, great chatting with you. I gotta run though.
Delnorin: Thanks for coming Ben
IronDioPriest: seeya Ben
benb61: logs off on 10/11/2011 9:17 pm (ct).
Delnorin: Okay.. time for me to log off also.. time to study Trigonometry.. oi !
IronDioPriest: well, I think I'm gonnas wrap it up guys.
IronDioPriest: Yup, consensus
Delnorin: Thanks for hosting this IDP
IronDioPriest: If no one objects, I'm going to close out, archive and shut er down
IronDioPriest: my pleasure
Delnorin: Agreed.
Delnorin: logs off on 10/11/2011 9:18 pm (ct).
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: John Florida on October 11, 2011, 09:36:56 PM
I watched the whole thing and I would vote for more than one of these people on any given day. ABO.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 11, 2011, 09:53:13 PM

there was a reserved seat for you over there you know

Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 07:20:54 AM
Heh, looks like y'all had fun.

I forgot about it, got sucked into the Tigers/Rangers game & the Wild/Senators game (that last one was quite a let down)...

Sounds like the pack leaders did OK...

Time for the deadwood to say buh-bye yet?

Oh, and I really like this clip - Frank & Dodd jailed?...hell yeah!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/11/newt_slams_media_for_not_demanding_transparency_of_federal_reserve.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/11/newt_slams_media_for_not_demanding_transparency_of_federal_reserve.html)

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 12, 2011, 07:39:55 AM
I tell ya, Newt was on fire last night. He was swingin' for the fences, and he hit a couple home runs. IF he didn't have a PAST, and he didn't SUCK, and he didn't reliably STAB conservatives in the back, AND he wasn't an angry looking pinch-faced little troll, I'd consider supporting him.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 07:50:05 AM
Yeah, poor gNewt, a head full of wonderful ideas and capable of delivering concepts in seering inescapable logic...but he is still such a political creature, and one whom desires to be seen as relevant even in the eyes of enemies...and therein lies the danger of letting yourself be seduced by his performance.

Do I want him on the top of the ticket?  Nope.  Would I support him if Veep?  Possibly, if the top of the ticket was non-Ruling Class.

But this is just debate fodder anyway, I don't think he'd be interested in anything but the top job and if that wasn't in the offing would prefer to be SecState than Veep.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 08:16:21 AM
Wow, do the PaulBots really go apenuts at the Blaze!  check out these comments!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/heres-a-look-at-key-moments-in-tuesdays-gop-debate/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/heres-a-look-at-key-moments-in-tuesdays-gop-debate/)

Paul, yeah he's the ONLY ONE!

 ::hysterical::

Yeah, he hauls in tons of pork to his district for how many decades now?

Yeah, fiscal conservative my ass!
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: jpatrickham on October 12, 2011, 10:13:37 AM
October 12, 2011 8:00am
 
 Morning Examiner: Perry should just stop debating

by Conn Carroll Senior Editorial Writer

Quote
"For those hoping that three weeks of practice could make Texas Gov. Rick Perry a better debater, last night was a huge disappointment. Perry rarely spoke, let the other candidates dominate the forum, and when he did speak, he either issued useless generalities about increased energy production, or endorsed state-level crony capitalist projects like Obama’s Solyndra disaster.

But when the debate finally ended, things only got worse. Someone in the Perry campaign thought it would be a good idea for Perry to head over to the Beta Pheta Pi fraternity debate-watch party and take questions. Responding to a woman’s question about state’s rights, Perry said that one of the “reasons we fought the revolution in the 16th century was to get away from that kind of onerous crown.” Our revolutionary war was fought in the second half of the 18th century. During the same Q&A, Perry admitted that he is not a good debater. “I just try to get up every day and do my job, and debates are not my strong suit,” Perry said.

Perry has performed poorly in all four of the GOP debates in which he has participated. Even the candidate himself seems to acknowledge that debates can only hurt his campaign. So why show up? The Perry campaign is telling every reporter who will listen that debates don’t matter. OK. If they really believe that, then why have Perry show up at all? Why not just work crowds, raise money, and run TV and web ads? We know Perry can’t debate, so let the headlines be about what he CAN do.

GOP Debate:
The Examiner‘s Michael Barone: “If the goal of a candidate in a debate is to sound presidential, Romney achieved that at Dartmouth.”

The Examiner‘s Phil Klein: “Texas Gov. Rick Perry reinforced the doubts about the viability of his candidacy. It’s one thing if he had an off night or two, but he’s now turned in four straight weak debate performances, so it’s hard to believe he has it within him to do much better.”

The Washington Post‘s Jennifer Rubin: “Certainly, Mitt Romney has to be very pleased. He was smooth as silk, deflecting a question on RomneyCare, explaining the problems of community banks, and driving home the key message: He is the only candidate ready for prime time.”

Power Line‘s John Hinderaker: “Mitt Romney did very well again. He comes across as strong, reassuring, articulate, experienced, knowledgeable. … I don’t know whether the pundits who say this was make or break for Perry are right, but it certainly was not a strong night for him.”

Michelle Malkin: “Rick Perry once again failed to deliver. He was languid. Passive. Half-hearted. Listless.”

RedState‘s Erick Erickson: “Rick Perry was largely a no show in the first half. The forgotten man who once dominated, he’s rapidly becoming the Fred Thompson of the campaign season.”

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/morning-examiner-perry-should-just-stop-debating?

Ouch! ::facepalm::

Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 12, 2011, 10:27:28 AM

I tell ya, Newt was on fire last night. He was swingin' for the fences, and he hit a couple home runs. IF he didn't have a PAST, and he didn't SUCK, and he didn't reliably STAB conservatives in the back, AND he wasn't an angry looking pinch-faced little troll, I'd consider supporting him.

Imagine him your VP and him in your office every day with a new idea.

Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: John Florida on October 12, 2011, 10:41:37 AM
Perry will be in the ranks of the also rans.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 10:52:22 AM
John Hinderaker?!

 ::mooning::

Another kiss of death for Romney!
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: jpatrickham on October 12, 2011, 11:00:06 AM
Perry will be in the ranks of the also rans.



It's like a very slow prearranged funnel, and the only one who fits at the end of it is Romney. Key word is prearranged! ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 11:09:42 AM
I'll see their prearranged and go all in with predestined(1)!

(1) Rebellion.

 ;)
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 12, 2011, 11:09:52 AM
John Hinderaker?!

 ::mooning::

Another kiss of death for Romney!

I hate to say it Libertas, but I don't think Romney's dying. He's going to be the nominee. The field is set, no one is riding in on a white horse to save conservatives. He's got the money. He's polished. He's smart. He's richer than rich. He's been auditioning and practicing since 2006. Perry's done. Newt won't beat him. Bachmann won't beat him. Santorum won't beat him. Huntsman is worse. Paul is Paul. That leaves Cain.

Cain doesn't have the organization. Doesn't have the money. Her shoots his mouth off without thinking. He's a long-shot at best.

We'll never know how Palin, Ryan, Daniels, Christie, or any other GOP straight-talker might have done against Romney. But as the field stands, I see one long-shot hope to defeat him, and that's Herman Cain. As things move forward, I'm seeing the likelihood of Romney being defeated less and less.



Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 11:21:02 AM
John Hinderaker?!

 ::mooning::

Another kiss of death for Romney!

I hate to say it Libertas, but I don't think Romney's dying. He's going to be the nominee. The field is set, no one is riding in on a white horse to save conservatives. He's got the money. He's polished. He's smart. He's richer than rich. He's been auditioning and practicing since 2006. Perry's done. Newt won't beat him. Bachmann won't beat him. Santorum won't beat him. Huntsman is worse. Paul is Paul. That leaves Cain.

Cain doesn't have the organization. Doesn't have the money. Her shoots his mouth off without thinking. He's a long-shot at best.

We'll never know how Palin, Ryan, Daniels, Christie, or any other GOP straight-talker might have done against Romney. But as the field stands, I see one long-shot hope to defeat him, and that's Herman Cain. As things move forward, I'm seeing the likelihood of Romney being defeated less and less.



Well, took ya long enough to get there Pal!  (Just teasing!)  Hence my earlier posting on the Cain thread about cutting him a check...he may be a long shot, but right now he is the ONLY SHOT at getting We the People back in control of this thing.  No, Herman is not perfect, but Reagan is gone and nobody else on that stage has a snowballs chance in hell of saving us from ourselves, and Romney is death, perhaps a slower death than Obama but death regardless.  And I am not voting to simply prolong the death of America.  I'll go all-in on Cain and he either gets it done and we get a chance or we are screwed and I can plan accordingly.  I'm done compromising my principles.  I am not voting for a Ruling Class clown no matter how slickly polished and no matter who is opponent is.  It just isn't going to happen.  We have one shot at this and making the wrong choice will and should have serious and immediate consequences.  I'm tired of the zombie dance and I am giving one last chance to peacefull restoration of the Republic.  The question for the Ruling Class is "How can you ignore people fed up with business as usual?  How do you deal with me?"

Good luck to them on that score!
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 12, 2011, 12:01:27 PM
I went "all-in" on a loser last go-'round, and it cost me $200. I gave $100 to Thompson early on, right after he jumped in, and then $100 again later, when it was "South Carolina or bust". Sonofabitch didn't last 2 weeks in the race after I donated.

I'm really loathe to make that mistake again - investing in a loser. But I s'pose if everyone thinks that way, he'll lose for sure. Idunno, I'll think about it. I just see the Romney juggernaut as all but insurmountable at this point. He's been too good in all these debates. He's closing the sale.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: jpatrickham on October 12, 2011, 12:56:32 PM
I went "all-in" on a loser last go-'round, and it cost me $200. I gave $100 to Thompson early on, right after he jumped in, and then $100 again later, when it was "South Carolina or bust". Sonofabitch didn't last 2 weeks in the race after I donated.

I'm really loathe to make that mistake again - investing in a loser. But I s'pose if everyone thinks that way, he'll lose for sure. Idunno, I'll think about it. I just see the Romney juggernaut as all but insurmountable at this point. He's been too good in all these debates. He's closing the sale.


I gave to Sarah and Jim DeMint, and said Hell with it! Now, who ever's left standing! ::smalldeadhorse::
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 12, 2011, 01:12:25 PM
Well, took ya long enough to get there Pal!  (Just teasing!)  Hence my earlier posting on the Cain thread about cutting him a check...he may be a long shot, but right now he is the ONLY SHOT at getting We the People back in control of this thing.  No, Herman is not perfect, but Reagan is gone and nobody else on that stage has a snowballs chance in hell of saving us from ourselves, and Romney is death, perhaps a slower death than Obama but death regardless.  And I am not voting to simply prolong the death of America.  I'll go all-in on Cain and he either gets it done and we get a chance or we are screwed and I can plan accordingly.  I'm done compromising my principles.  I am not voting for a Ruling Class clown no matter how slickly polished and no matter who is opponent is.  It just isn't going to happen.  We have one shot at this and making the wrong choice will and should have serious and immediate consequences.  I'm tired of the zombie dance and I am giving one last chance to peacefull restoration of the Republic.  The question for the Ruling Class is "How can you ignore people fed up with business as usual?  How do you deal with me?"

Good luck to them on that score!

I had to check my keystroke history on my laptop to see if I was the one that wrote this. :)

Last go-around I wrote in names for Pres/V.P. because I couldn't live with myself for supporting that Douche Bag McCain.  This time... I'm not sure I have that gag-reflex and violent (yes violent) hatred for the possible candidate(s).  A couple I could actually really support and approve of... but chances are those aren't the pre-approved people.

I'm just going to work hard until the decision is made and then go from there.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 01:48:08 PM
There is a lot of time between then and now and I guess anything can happen...

...here's to hoping whatever that something is turns out to be more better than worse...

 ::beertoast::
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: jpatrickham on October 12, 2011, 02:03:12 PM
Last night was Romney's night, Perry looked like a Guy at a Tennis Match watching the ball go back and fourth. Yes Michele, we know you had 28 Children. Paul, I could swear he is Festus from "Gunsmoke," Cain, is the Count. 9 9 9. Newt, wow! he is really starting to look Vice Presidential!


P.S. If we are going to settle for Romney, at least make Gingrich your Vice, just besure you watch how he spends his evenings!
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: benb61 on October 12, 2011, 05:04:08 PM
Last election I voted off party cause I just could not stand obama or McCain.  Though I don't like Romney, if he is the Republican candidate he will get my vote.  We must not allow our dislike for the Republican candidate to give the a$$hat that is in the White House another term or all hope is lost!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 12, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
There is a lot of time between then and now and I guess anything can happen...

...here's to hoping whatever that something is turns out to be more better than worse...

 ::beertoast::

Yup, this time last election, Romney was on top.
I've not written my check for anyone yet,
we've got time.

With every debate except this one it's shifted.
There will be more shifts and rallies.
There are earthly forces money can't buy that
have yet to play.

 


Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: rickl on October 12, 2011, 05:34:49 PM
I’m having trouble understanding the purpose of these debates, unless it is to anoint a clear front-runner before the primaries begin and the voters get to have their say.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 12, 2011, 05:43:27 PM
I’m having trouble understanding the purpose of these debates, unless it is to anoint a clear front-runner before the primaries begin and the voters get to have their say.

I'd say that's pretty much it. The RNC or the FEC or the CPD or whoever is responsible for these things existing would probably say that it is to help citizens get to know the candidates so they can make a more informed decision.

But in their current format, I'd say the purpose is two-fold: a) to anoint a frontrunner and support the narrative of frontrunner status, and b) to place all of the candidates and issues within the framework of the Leftist point of view, so that in the subsequent news cycles, their positions can be held up for ridicule and torn apart.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 12, 2011, 06:05:58 PM
Last election I voted off party cause I just could not stand obama or McCain.  Though I don't like Romney, if he is the Republican candidate he will get my vote.  We must not allow our dislike for the Republican candidate to give the a$$hat that is in the White House another term or all hope is lost!!!

This has become my thought as well.
Immediate destruction of the country (<4 years) vs More Slow poison of the country (4-8 years)...

What a very sad choice we get asked to make over and over again.

I'd just LOVE the choice:
Immediate destruction of the country vs. SAVE and THRIVE !
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 12, 2011, 06:45:02 PM
I just listened to a half hour of Hugh Hewitt saying that Herman Cain cannot beat Obama; that the reality is its either Mitt Romney or Rick Perry; that if you don't like Romney you'd better vote for Perry because a vote for any of the others is a vote for Romney; that the effort, backing, support, infrastructure, and financing that it takes to mount a successful presidential campaign will not be made available to Herman Cain even if he gains the nomination; that anyone who is a conservative had better understand that they need to line up and support the nominee; and the nominee needs to be Romney. Romney, Romney, Romney.

F*ck you, Hugh Hewitt. You may think you have all the answers according to politics as usual. Your shameless pimping for Romney in '08 helped us get McCain. Your mindset among the GOP establishment has brought us to the precipice of disaster, without a real opposition to the constant drift Leftward and subversion of our constitution.

You've just convinced me to donate to Herman Cain. He's not a man who wilts at being told what is not possible.

 ::doublebird::

Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: John Florida on October 12, 2011, 06:55:32 PM
I just listened to a half hour of Hugh Hewitt saying that Herman Cain cannot beat Obama; that the reality is its either Mitt Romney or Rick Perry; that if you don't like Romney you'd better vote for Perry because a vote for any of the others is a vote for Romney; that the effort, backing, support, infrastructure, and financing that it takes to mount a successful presidential campaign will not be made available to Herman Cain even if he gains the nomination; that anyone who is a conservative had better understand that they need to line up and support the nominee; and the nominee needs to be Romney. Romney, Romney, Romney.

F*ck you, Hugh Hewitt. You may think you have all the answers according to politics as usual. Your shameless pimping for Romney in '08 helped us get McCain. Your mindset among the GOP establishment has brought us to the precipice of disaster, without a real opposition to the constant drift Leftward and subversion of our constitution.

You've just convinced me to donate to Herman Cain. He's not a man who wilts at being told what is not possible.

 ::doublebird::



 Why would the talking heads come out and step on their own dicks this early? What are they going to do if it isn't their choice?Condemn the winner?
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: rickl on October 12, 2011, 07:10:04 PM
The last time I listened to Hewitt was on Election Night 2008.  As the returns came in, he didn't even sound disappointed.  He was already looking forward to the next election, and talking about what we would need to do to win that one.  It was then that I realized that he is just a political junkie.  He just likes talking about politics.  The real effect of elections on the nation is just an abstraction and an afterthought, if he even thinks about it at all.  I think Bill Bennett is similar in that regard.  Both of them will still have their jobs regardless of who wins.

I am utterly unenthusiastic about any of the Republican candidates.  Romney, Perry, and Cain all represent different aspects, or factions, of the ruling class.  The Republican establishment has made it very clear that the nominee will be a member of the establishment whether we voters like it or not. 

It is high time we all realize that the Republican Party has no intention of rolling back government.  Rather, like the European "conservative" parties, they simply want to get their hands on the levers of power.

As things stand right now, there is an excellent chance that I will vote Libertarian in next year's election.  Granted, a lot can happen between now and then which could change my mind.  But I am done with voting for the lesser of two evils, and being herded into voting for anyone with an R after their name.  That's exactly what the party establishment wants us to do. 

(For some reason I am no longer receiving e-mail notifications of new comments.  I've checked my settings and they seem to be in order.)
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 12, 2011, 08:01:32 PM

Fears:
          If Perry is elected he will be stronger than folks think he's able.
          If Cain is elected he will not be strong enough to pass his agenda.

Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: John Florida on October 12, 2011, 08:04:07 PM

Fears:
          If Perry is elected he will be stronger than folks think he's able.
          If Cain is elected he will not be strong enough to pass his agenda.



 That's one of those pass the bill to see what's in deals.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 12, 2011, 08:12:33 PM

I'm not making a choice till I know more. 

Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 12, 2011, 08:13:33 PM

I want to know what's in the package before I vote for it. 

Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 08:25:17 PM
It's a package deal, take it or leave it!

Get ready to be demonized for not supporting the package!

I never elevated peer adulation and acceptance to abnormal heights so I'm self inoculated against their feeble attempts at sophomoric persuasion!

I am the Anti-Butthead!   ;D
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: rickl on October 12, 2011, 08:30:03 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oNfVQ-7M-VQ/THFTY65XDgI/AAAAAAAAAP4/ohnlB1ZUoXo/s1600/march_of_tyranny.jpg)
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 12, 2011, 08:35:21 PM
It's a package deal, take it or leave it!

Get ready to be demonized for not supporting the package!

I never elevated peer adulation and acceptance to abnormal heights so I'm self inoculated against their feeble attempts at sophomoric persuasion!

I am the Anti-Butthead!   ;D

Speaking of Buttheads and Warts, heard on the radio that Commander Chalkboard had been bought by Romney.


Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2011, 08:51:51 PM
It's a package deal, take it or leave it!

Get ready to be demonized for not supporting the package!

I never elevated peer adulation and acceptance to abnormal heights so I'm self inoculated against their feeble attempts at sophomoric persuasion!

I am the Anti-Butthead!   ;D

Speaking of Buttheads and Warts, heard on the radio that Commander Chalkboard had been bought by Romney.




 ::)

Fvcking figures!  I knew I smelled something funky coming from that quarter!

 ::puke::
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Alphabet Soup on October 12, 2011, 08:57:24 PM
It's a package deal, take it or leave it!

Get ready to be demonized for not supporting the package!

I never elevated peer adulation and acceptance to abnormal heights so I'm self inoculated against their feeble attempts at sophomoric persuasion!

I am the Anti-Butthead!   ;D

Speaking of Buttheads and Warts, heard on the radio that Commander Chalkboard had been bought by Romney.




Commander Chalkboard?
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 12, 2011, 09:14:44 PM

The ultimate Buttthead.

Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Pandora on October 13, 2011, 12:10:10 AM
Rove?
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: trapeze on October 13, 2011, 01:02:25 AM

I want to know what's in the package before I vote for it.  




The Establishment drinks the Koolaid without knowing what's in it...

"I've Had This Taste In My Mouth Before" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMiPjnNF7Dc#ws)

...happens every time.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 13, 2011, 08:59:20 AM
Commander Chalkboard?

I am just guessing but my first instinct when hearing "Commander Chalkboard" is to think of Glenn Beck.  Not sure that's who he's referring to though.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 13, 2011, 11:19:34 AM
I didn't think of that, I assumed it was Butthead Rove!

CO?  Please tell me you don't mean Beck!
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 13, 2011, 11:23:01 AM
I didn't think of that, I assumed it was Butthead Rove!

CO?  Please tell me you don't mean Beck!

While I really very much appreciate what Beck has done in opening the eyes of our Country and getting lazy people off their couches and awake again...
I must confess that in my mind there is going to be an understanding support for him towards Romney due to a natural inclination to support those with the same spiritual beliefs as you.

I can't fault a guy for supporting someone that holds the same core beliefs as you do.  I just hope that's it.  I just pray Beck hasn't been laying the ground work to make Mormonism more 'acceptable' and 'palatable' to the general population as a way to pave the road for Romney.

It sounds way too 'what if' and 'paranoid'.. but I tend to continually ask these questions to dig and find the truth of things.

I just hope I can shrug it off fully some day and know there isn't any truth to it at all.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 13, 2011, 12:19:50 PM
Remember the softball question that Romney asked of Bachmann and how we talked about it when it happened Live in the chat room?  How it seemed like he was setting her up to look good and how we talked about him maybe setting her up for the V.P. ticket?

Rush Limbaugh just talked about exactly the same thing on his show.  We're not the only people that noticed it.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 13, 2011, 03:43:55 PM
Remember the softball question that Romney asked of Bachmann and how we talked about it when it happened Live in the chat room?  How it seemed like he was setting her up to look good and how we talked about him maybe setting her up for the V.P. ticket?

Rush Limbaugh just talked about exactly the same thing on his show.  We're not the only people that noticed it.

Yup. Erick Erikson at RedState thinks it was more cynical than setting her up for VP. He thinks it was to keep her campaign afloat through Iowa, so that the opposition to his candidacy cannot coalesce around one individual. I tend to agree with Erick on this.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 13, 2011, 03:46:40 PM
Yup. Erick Erikson at RedState thinks it was more cynical than setting her up for VP. He thinks it was to keep her campaign afloat through Iowa, so that the opposition to his candidacy cannot coalesce around one individual. I tend to agree with Erick on this.

It *DID* have a strange smell to it.  It seemed like it had a purpose to make her sound good.  You know; when something makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up.... not something honest and true about it.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 13, 2011, 07:50:06 PM

It just keeps getting better.

Quote

Link (http://theothermccain.com/2011/10/13/top-rubio-staffer-reportedly-pushed-for-early-florida-primary-to-help-romney/)

Tea Party’s own 2010 hero, Sen. Marco Rubio. GOP sources in Washington and Florida say that Rubio’s senatorial chief of staff, Cesar Conda, has been a major force in persuading Florida Republicans to move their primary to January.



Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 13, 2011, 08:28:18 PM
No rumblings of punitive action coming out of the RNC?  Can't believe the Ruling Class wants states just doing whatever they like, that really aggravates their central planning nerve!
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Delnorin on October 14, 2011, 06:58:03 AM
On my own blog I started at the very first GOP debate a running list of what candidate stands for what.  I sort of fell behind in it though....

In that creation of that blog entry though I ran across this neat little set of questions/webpage that at the end of it... it maps out where you stand on a political landscape... way left.. way right.. social liberal... social conservative.. blah blah.. but it gives you a little graph to show where you land on things.  I thought it was pretty fun.  I posted it in the margin on my website.

You can take the quiz here: http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html (http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html)

This was my result:

(http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/35x25.gif)

Now the reason I bring this up here on this specific thread.....

I was working to update my blog on the topics each cannidate stands for and I ran across this Huffington Post (Google really should just ignore stupid websites)... but the same sort of graphic was there in an article.  I thought it was great and it pretty much matches up with my thoughts also.. I'm exactly between Palin and Bachmann... I don't think I'd complain if that happened IRL. (smirk)

(http://www.538host.com/gopchart.png)

P.S.  On closer examination.. I might be right on top of Palin. (hee-hee)
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2011, 08:41:40 AM
I'm right between Palin & Bachmann....ooohhhhh baby!

 ;D

But in truth I came closer to DeMint & Bachmann.

 :supercool:
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 14, 2011, 08:56:40 AM
Heads-up...

I'm gonna lock this thread sometime over the weekend in anticipation of next Tuesday's debate on CNN in Las Vegas. We'll start another thread for that one.
Title: Re: Live Chat GOP Debate, Tonight 8PM Eastern/7PM Pre-coverage
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2011, 11:28:01 AM
Communist News Network?

 ::facepalm::