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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: jpatrickham on October 29, 2011, 02:17:02 PM
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Filed under 2012 Election, Politics
[please don't shoot the messenger] ::puke::
"Don’t hate me. I’m only the messenger of the bad news. With the economy as bad as it is, President Obama’s approval rating is over 40 percent. The comments of Bill Daley, the current White House Chief of Staff, are telling:
“Considering the debacle that he came in with, the tough choices he’s made and how there have been few, if any breaks, he says it himself all the time. [The President] doesn't know why he’s as high as 44 percent.”
This is bad news for the GOP. Every bright sign in the economy is touted by the press as an Obama accomplishment. George Stephanopoulos is a perfect example. When the market jumped more than 300 points on Thursday, Boy George could not contain himself. He let out a sigh of relief as if to say, “This gets Obama off the hook for 2012.” When the market drops, bad economic numbers are released, and unemployment numbers don’t budge, the media make excuses for the president. “The hurricane contributed to the downturn. . . The Japanese earthquake has to be factored into the equation. . . It was Bush’s fault.”
The media are propping up the president and attacking every Republican they can. The attack on Marco Rubio is a perfect example. The Washington Post is attacking the junior senator from Florida for “misrepresenting” his family’s story. There was almost no vetting of Obama by the press, but Rubio is fair game. Liberals fear Rubio as a vice presidential candidate, so they must destroy him before he even considers the position. That’s the way liberals play the game. It’s only going to get worse.'
::speechless::
Read more: Don’t Be Surprised if Obama Wins in 2012 | Godfather Politics http://godfatherpolitics.com/1761/dont-be-surprised-if-obama-wins-in-2012/#ixzz1cCR7NVR3 (http://godfatherpolitics.com/1761/dont-be-surprised-if-obama-wins-in-2012/#ixzz1cCR7NVR3) ::puke::
The things that has happened to this World as of late, only insures a chance at another 4 years of Obama. If he wins, we all know it will be done with trickery and deceit. So, if it does happen, I am saying bloodbath!
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Time to beat the plowshares into swords............
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That 300 point jump in the market was based on wild speculation . When the details of the "Euro Deal" come to light and it proves unworkable evrything will come tumbling back down and people like Stephanopoulos will have egg on their collective faces . The GOP's problem now is unity . Will those whose candidate doesn't win nomination take their footballs and go home instead of getting behind one candidate ( like him or not ) in an effort to oust that commie bastard from the White House ? In the end that's the only thing which will defeat us .
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Will those whose candidate doesn't win nomination take their footballs and go home instead of getting behind one candidate ( like him or not )
Things may change, but as of right now, I would be voting 3rd party
I don't have a candidate and don't feel there is any one worth a spit
Not one who doesn't see government as a solution and will roll back the size of government and get it out of our lives.
If we're going to Hell in a handbasket, I'd just as soon get there in a speed boat than a row boat
Maybe then we'll get a reset
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Will those whose candidate doesn't win nomination take their footballs and go home instead of getting behind one candidate ( like him or not )
Things may change, but as of right now, I would be voting 3rd party
I don't have a candidate and don't feel there is any one worth a spit
Not one who doesn't see government as a solution and will roll back the size of government and get it out of our lives.
If we're going to Hell in a handbasket, I'd just as soon get there in a speed boat than a row boat
Maybe then we'll get a reset
A third party will most certainly hand the election to Stymie on a silver platter !
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A third party will most certainly hand the election to Stymie on a silver platter
I decided a while back that I'm not responsible for that.
If this bunch is the best that America has to offer, we're sunk anyhow.
Besides, Congress has abdicated it's responsibility or none of this would happen
Our goose is cooked.
It's over.
The only difference between Pubs and Dems anymore in Washington is degree.
Progressives and Communists want the same ends, just different methods of getting there.
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"Don’t hate me. I’m only the messenger of the bad news. With the economy as bad as it is, President Obama’s approval rating is over 40 percent.
I have been following #Rasmussen (The poll people) on Twitter for months now. Every single day they put out O'Bummer's Highly approved, approved, disapproved, highly disapproved numbers and come out with a few stats. Every single day for months O'Bummer's approval ratings have been 44-46%. They don't change.
Not even Jesus Christ gets that loyal of a following. No wavering, no faltering, no questioning.. nothing.
44-46% Write it on a tablet of stone... not moving anywhere.
Now all we need is a 3rd candidate like a Ross Perot and wham.... He's re-elected.
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Time to beat the plowshares into swords............
Buy more ammo NOW !!
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A third party will most certainly hand the election to Stymie on a silver platter
I decided a while back that I'm not responsible for that.
Last presidential election I 'wrote in' names for President and V.P. I refused.. just like you're talking now. No way in Hell I was going to put my honor and character behind someone like McCain.
In a way I think this has been best. O'Bummer has awaken millions of sleeping/lazy people in this Country. Imagine what another 4 years of O'Bummer would do? We'd be having a Constitutional Convention again and wiping the slate clean for a reboot.
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Imagine what another 4 years of O'Bummer would do? We'd be having a Constitutional Convention again and wiping the slate clean for a reboot
Or we'll be in an all out civil war after a total economic collapse
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Imagine what another 4 years of O'Bummer would do? We'd be having a Constitutional Convention again and wiping the slate clean for a reboot
Or we'll be in an all out civil war after a total economic collapse
Oh yeah.. I fully expect that (hence my Buy more ammo now comment).. but after the dust settles and we've all run out of ammo. Then we'll come back around and want to pick up the pieces.
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As in all polls, the devils in the details. Without knowing the breakdown of those polled, the area, likely voters, etc., not to mention the fact the poll numbers haven't changed in months, I lend no creedence.
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The author is only right about one thing - "It’s only going to get worse."
Yup.
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A third party will most certainly hand the election to Stymie on a silver platter
I decided a while back that I'm not responsible for that.
If this bunch is the best that America has to offer, we're sunk anyhow.
Besides, Congress has abdicated it's responsibility or none of this would happen
Our goose is cooked.
It's over.
The only difference between Pubs and Dems anymore in Washington is degree.
Progressives and Communists want the same ends, just different methods of getting there.
Voting is applying our responsibility in the governance of America.
How we vote is our responsibility and the results thereof are ours.
One is responsible how he votes and the results thereof.
It is a mathematical certainty that voting for a third party candidate
is a vote that enhances the Democrat number. Denying this is
denying reality.
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Denying reality is what many have been doing for decades, Charles
Let's say one of the Romneys is the nominee.
Which one will we get?
Will he be significantly better than Obama?
As a good Progressive, we'll get to the same place, only slower. Maybe
Or the snowball has grown large enough that it will now continue it's momentum on it's own
Which of the other candidates will give us smaller government?
None.
I am a conservative that happens to be a registered Republican
None of the candidates reflect my values.
I'm mature enough to know that I won't get everything I want.
But, I want some.
I'm not in denial.
Which is more irresponsible? Continuing the charade or not participating in it?
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A third party will most certainly hand the election to Stymie on a silver platter
I decided a while back that I'm not responsible for that.
If this bunch is the best that America has to offer, we're sunk anyhow.
Besides, Congress has abdicated it's responsibility or none of this would happen
Our goose is cooked.
It's over.
The only difference between Pubs and Dems anymore in Washington is degree.
Progressives and Communists want the same ends, just different methods of getting there.
Voting is applying our responsibility in the governance of America.
How we vote is our responsibility and the results thereof are ours.
One is responsible how he votes and the results thereof.
It is a mathematical certainty that voting for a third party candidate
is a vote that enhances the Democrat number. Denying this is
denying reality.
I love logic, especially so since it cuts both ways indiscriminately!
It is also true that other people have to take responsibility for their votes. If primary voters fall to Ruling Class hypnosis and nominate a weak Ruling Class nominee who offers little hope of offering little reprieve in the Left's march into the sea (at best), are those voters exonerated for their foolishness and the poor principled chap who failed to go along with the slow death in the general election condemned as the sole contributor to disaster?
IMO the greater sin is on the front end of the process, not the back end, but I enjoy the liberty of being able to make such distinctions.
I refuse to be taken for granted and forced into acceptance of an ABO candidate simply because ignorant primary voters and Ruling Class Machiavellians fvcked the whole thing up!
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Touché.
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There are a couple that I could hold my nose for.
Again.
But, if these candidates are the best America has to offer, we are sunk anyway
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Woot.. Cain is beating O'Bummer in polls now. He's also beating Perry and Romney... check out my short blog article on it.
http://tinyurl.com/cain-vs-obummer (http://tinyurl.com/cain-vs-obummer)
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That 300 point jump in the market was based on wild speculation . When the details of the "Euro Deal" come to light and it proves unworkable evrything will come tumbling back down and people like Stephanopoulos will have egg on their collective faces .
What did I tell you ? 276 of those 300 points just went down the toilet yesterday . More to follow ...
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Worse than hot air...more like farting into a balloon!
And with the referendum Greece wants to have the whole deal in Europe can blow up, if that happens watch the fireworks!
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In a way I think this has been best. O'Bummer has awaken millions of sleeping/lazy people in this Country. Imagine what another 4 years of O'Bummer would do? We'd be having a Constitutional Convention again and wiping the slate clean for a reboot.
Lose the battle. Win the War. Or more accurately: never interrupt the enemy when they are engaged in suicide.
Elections are not a battle we can win under current circumstances anyway. We have limited time left economically, and the powers that be prevent a decent candidate from entering the race, the "somnambulant public" is still 90% led by the puppet theater and votes the way the puppets tell them, and most were never taught critical thinking skills and won't survive without government help during the "new, painful era of self-reliance" Obama is warning us about.
Leftists will not reason, and thus they will not stop, until reality itself stops them. Even if we were able to get a Ronald Reagan to fix it, they would be there, lessons unlearned and resentful that the problems they were counting on were resolved. Other than going into the street and engaging in the wholesale slaughter of their kind, the only way to beat them is to let reality do it for us. And that means letting it get bad. Really, really bad. So bad that every leftist has felt the jackboot of government on their neck and the ache of hunger in their belly. They will riot and destroy when they discover their kindergarten sense of entitlement is not going to be satisfied. They will turn on and kill each other as you see OWS already doing. We just need to stay out of the way, defend our own and turn a blind eye when leftists come begging when Obama and their Chump parent idea of government is plainly discredited and they ask for help. We will not hire them. We will not feed them. The Locusts have come at us by the millions, and the only thing that will rid us of them is a very long, very hard winter. .
I don't think a new American awakening is guaranteed under such circumstances, but I do believe it gives us a better chance that what we have now, and all we have to do is prepare for winter, which is what we do naturally anyway.
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In a way I think this has been best. O'Bummer has awaken millions of sleeping/lazy people in this Country. Imagine what another 4 years of O'Bummer would do? We'd be having a Constitutional Convention again and wiping the slate clean for a reboot.
Lose the battle. Win the War. Or more accurately: never interrupt the enemy when they are engaged in suicide.
Elections are not a battle we can win under current circumstances anyway. We have limited time left economically, and the powers that be prevent a decent candidate from entering the race, the "somnambulant public" is still 90% led by the puppet theater and votes the way the puppets tell them, and most were never taught critical thinking skills and won't survive without government help during the "new, painful era of self-reliance" Obama is warning us about.
Leftists will not reason, and thus they will not stop, until reality itself stops them. Even if we were able to get a Ronald Reagan to fix it, they would be there, lessons unlearned and resentful that the problems they were counting on were resolved. Other than going into the street and engaging in the wholesale slaughter of their kind, the only way to beat them is to let reality do it for us. And that means letting it get bad. Really, really bad. So bad that every leftist has felt the jackboot of government on their neck and the ache of hunger in their belly. They will riot and destroy when they discover their kindergarten sense of entitlement is not going to be satisfied. They will turn on and kill each other as you see OWS already doing. We just need to stay out of the way, defend our own and turn a blind eye when leftists come begging when Obama and their Chump parent idea of government is plainly discredited and they ask for help. We will not hire them. We will not feed them. The Locusts have come at us by the millions, and the only thing that will rid us of them is a very long, very hard winter. .
I don't think a new American awakening is guaranteed under such circumstances, but I do believe it gives us a better chance that what we have now, and all we have to do is prepare for winter, which is what we do naturally anyway.
I am reminded of the scripture:
2 Thessalonians 3:10
New King James Version (NKJV)
10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
I have no problem offering food and work to someone that shows up at my bunker and is willing to clear brush, pull security duty, harvest/plant food, fish, hunt, scavenge for supplies in the city, etc. If not, then turn around and leave.
I also believe this is the way that welfare/food stamps and all government programs should work. You want that Unemployment check? Okay, you get it after working cleaning parks and picking up garbage in your home town after 20 hours of work. Your town board/major will email us your name/hours at the end of the week. If you get your 20 hours work in this week.. then you get your unemployment check. If not.. go hungry.
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My dad told how assistance worked in the Depression.
Now, if there were work to be had, he had it.
He was a highly sought after skilled coal miner and bosses would come to the house for him.
But, he told of a public works project he worked on.
It was building a road.
What you had to do was smash rocks by hand. I believe he said it was 30'X16'X3'
If you didn't do it, you didn't get to come back tomorrow
I asked about heavy equipment. He told me they had it but weren't allowed to use it
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I also believe this is the way that welfare/food stamps and all government programs should work. You want that Unemployment check? Okay, you get it after working cleaning parks and picking up garbage in your home town after 20 hours of work. Your town board/major will email us your name/hours at the end of the week. If you get your 20 hours work in this week.. then you get your unemployment check. If not.. go hungry.
I wouldn't even mind paying them an hourly wage - in food stamps - if they actually worked for it. The more they work, the more they earn - just like a regular job. At least then the tax payer would be getting something out of it - well, something besides just getting screwed anyway.
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My dad told how assistance worked in the Depression.
Now, if there were work to be had, he had it.
He was a highly sought after skilled coal miner and bosses would come to the house for him.
But, he told of a public works project he worked on.
It was building a road.
What you had to do was smash rocks by hand. I believe he said it was 30'X16'X3'
If you didn't do it, you didn't get to come back tomorrow
I asked about heavy equipment. He told me they had it but weren't allowed to use it
Of course not, because getting the work DONE wasn't the point, it was to provide "jobs". Sound familiar?
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I have no problem offering food and work to someone that shows up at my bunker and is willing to clear brush, pull security duty, harvest/plant food, fish, hunt, scavenge for supplies in the city, etc. If not, then turn around and leave.
You are kinder than I am. If you voted to use government power to steal from others to benefit yourself ( or just feel good about yourself) now, I will have no pity on you after your polices bring it all crashing down. Voted for Obama? Go ask Obama for help now. They picked a side, made their bed, and I want them to lie in it. I don't want a single one of them to live into the next generation, and I want their own actions to be their un-doing. There won't be any "make work" coming this time.
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My dad told how assistance worked in the Depression.
Now, if there were work to be had, he had it.
He was a highly sought after skilled coal miner and bosses would come to the house for him.
But, he told of a public works project he worked on.
It was building a road.
What you had to do was smash rocks by hand. I believe he said it was 30'X16'X3'
If you didn't do it, you didn't get to come back tomorrow
I asked about heavy equipment. He told me they had it but weren't allowed to use it
Of course not, because getting the work DONE wasn't the point, it was to provide "jobs". Sound familiar?
Work is the amount of a task accomplished not the effort put into accomplishing the task,
they don't understand this. If you don't understand this you cannot understand capitalism.
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Points made that I hadn't considered.
I took his lesson as there was no free lunch.
In order to get help, you had to work for it and work hard
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Work is the amount of a task accomplished not the effort put into accomplishing the task,
they don't understand this. If you don't understand this you cannot understand capitalism.
I was referring to the Democrat Socialists that wouldn't allow machinery
along with Pandora's observation their perspective as to work and job, allow
me to rephrase that quote.
Work is the amount of a task accomplished not the effort put into accomplishing the task,
they don't understand this. If one doesn't understand this one cannot understand capitalism.
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Work is the amount of a task accomplished not the effort put into accomplishing the task,
they don't understand this. If you don't understand this you cannot understand capitalism.
I was referring to the Democrat Socialists that wouldn't allow machinery
along with Pandora's observation their perspective as to work and job, allow
me to rephrase that quote.
Work is the amount of a task accomplished not the effort put into accomplishing the task,
they don't understand this. If one doesn't understand this one cannot understand capitalism.
And they don't understand it. I've had to overhear conversations at work about, for instance, the debit card fee that Bank of America recently nixed. The gist of the comments were that it was an outrage that BofA would have even considered such a thing, the greedy pigs with their billions in profits. Total ignorance of the fact that the fee was itself motivated by government halving one of the company's revenue streams with the stroke of a pen. Total ignorance of the fact that a company has a fiduciary responsibility to its investors to always seek profit. They are genuinely perplexed that business does not simply eat the cost of all these mandates, and when businesses pass the cost on to the consumer they see it simply as proof that yet-more government interference is needed.
The same people lambasting Bank of America or ExxonMobil about their profits almost certainly have substantial portions of their 401k or IRA invested in the stock of these very companies, yet cannot fill in the blanks that show the connection between those companies' profits and their own retirement savings growth.
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Points made that I hadn't considered.
I took his lesson as there was no free lunch.
In order to get help, you had to work for it and work hard
My grandfather worked several WPA road-gangs . When the work was there you made a little less than $15.00 per week . Pick and shovel stuff .
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Points made that I hadn't considered.
I took his lesson as there was no free lunch.
In order to get help, you had to work for it and work hard
My grandfather worked several WPA road-gangs . When the work was there you made a little less than $15.00 per week . Pick and shovel stuff .
It is my opinion that FDR turned these people into little better than indentured servants, try selling that as compassionate today...yeah, I'd like to see these OWS asshats deal with that reality...they think corporations are a bad overlord?!
::hysterical::
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It is my opinion that FDR turned these people into little better than indentured servants, try selling that as compassionate today...yeah, I'd like to see these OWS asshats deal with that reality...they think corporations are a bad overlord?!
Agreed, Libertas
It was inconceivable to people then that they should do nothing and get money.
Tody, it's just as inconceivable that people have to do something for money
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/how_might_obama_win_in_2012_and_what_would_happen_next.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/how_might_obama_win_in_2012_and_what_would_happen_next.html)
Indeed, if they are particularly clever in this, Obama's campaign might manage to create a four-way race in 2012. It is easy to imagine a campaign where, for example, one faction splits from the Republican Party and runs a "Tea Party" candidate for president on the grounds that the putative Republican nominee is insufficiently conservative, while, at the same time, a new "centrist" party runs a candidate on the grounds that the Republican candidate is an "extremist." It is also easy to see the media willingly feeding both stories to the public at the same time. If such a scenario came to pass, Obama could perform worse than any incumbent president in history and still win the election.
Already we have seen, in a number of congressional elections, the emergence of fake "Tea Party" candidates pushed into the race for the purpose of splitting the vote. Does it really seem unlikely that Obama's team will be unable to find one -- and they likely would be, given the stakes -- capable of mouthing all the right conservative phrases, among them the claim that anyone who supports the mainstream Republican nominee is not a "true conservative"? If that candidate alone were able to win, say, between 10% and 15% of the national vote, all Obama would have to do is continue to launch brutal and class warfare-driven attacks on Republicans in order to get the low-forty-something percent of voters who still approve of him today to drag him across the finish line.
An ugly win by Obama would be a detriment to the country. I'm not sure if he, clearly driven to win re-election above all else, really cares at this point about that. However, I should also point out that it would also likely be harmful to Obama himself. He would find himself faced by a hostile Congress that would have good cause to question his legitimacy and would block him at every turn. He would also likely face the hostility of an ever-larger segment of the public. He ought to reflect upon the example of former California Governor Gray Davis, who managed to get himself re-elected through the twin underhanded tactics of first intervening in the Republican primary and then relentlessly shredding the character of the opponent he selected, businessman Bill Simon. Davis won the election but was recalled by the voters of California within a year.
Although there is no way to remove a president from office by a direct vote of the people, it seems likely to me -- given his certain political weakness and the likely emergence of future scandals -- that a re-elected Obama would eventually face impeachment and removal from office at the hands of the Congress.
Given that a divided right remains the clear path for Obama to win, Republican unity must become the overwhelming imperative of 2012. It is healthy and good that Republicans should fight with vigor over who should be the nominee, but, once the issue is settled by the voters, all conservatives must fight the temptation to opt for the ideal over the acceptable.
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I dunno, I ,a beginning to think this Yoshida is one of them Real Politik/Ruling Class Repub's I've come to know and loath!
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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/11/obamas_electoral_advantages_make_it_suicidal_to_underestimate_him.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/11/obamas_electoral_advantages_make_it_suicidal_to_underestimate_him.html)
I think the GOP basic strategy should be to keep Obama on the defensive, trying to protect some of those states he won in 2008 but are toss-ups today; Nevada is very close as is New Mexico; Iowa is leaning Obama but still a trouble spot. North Carolina is leaning GOP as is Virginia. And then there are the biggies: Pennsylvania, Wisconsn, and Michigan with their 46 electoral votes. The GOP is very competitive in all of those states -- states Obama must have to win. A GOP sweep of those rust belt states would mean certain victory.
So even though Cillizza makes some good points and his analysis is sound, the election will probably hinge on a few rust belt states and 2 or 3 other battleground states where the GOP has a decided advantage. Obama may have many paths to victory, but they will all have to pass through Lansing, Madison, and Harrisburg.
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Obama 2012 Victory Map
By The Washington Times
“Barack Obama wins historic second term!” Get ready; you may be reading that headline a year from now.
Granted, the macro indicators don’t look good for President Obama. Unemployment is over 9 percent and not expected to decline dramatically. Economic growth is anemic. Federal budget deficits are through the roof, and most voters think.....'
Read More and Comment:http://www.exposeobama.com/2011/11/08/obamas-2012-victory-map/
I can see clearly now, Romney will be the Candidate, by closing most of the holes at the Put-Put Range. Democrats will even up the House, and the Senate will be a slight Majority for Republicans. Four more years of Obama with Executive Order being the rule of the day. Have a strange feeling this was the plan all along! ::puke::
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204358004577030481545613916.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204358004577030481545613916.html)
Of all the noise of this week's state election results, what mattered most for Election 2012 came out of Virginia. It was the sound of the air leaking out of the Plouffe plan.
Virginia Republicans added seven new seats to their majority in the House of Delegates, giving them two-thirds of that chamber's votes—the party's largest margin in history. The GOP also took over the Virginia Senate in results that were especially notable, given that Virginia Democrats this spring crafted an aggressive redistricting plan that had only one aim: providing a firewall against a Republican takeover of that chamber. Even that extreme gerrymander didn't work.
Every Republican incumbent—52 in the House, 15 in the Senate—won. The state GOP is looking at unified control over government for only the second time since the Civil War. This is after winning all three top statewide offices—including the election of Gov. Bob McDonnell—in 2009, and picking off three U.S. House Democrats in last year's midterms.
Obama may win, I'll concede that because there are an awful lot of really STUPID voters out there. But I don't believe that it is certain that he will win. I think that he has a fairly small chance of winning frankly - as it stands right now anyway. My best guess would be about a 30% chance or so.
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The TEA Party lives!
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Indeed it does Pan - just because we haven't heard a lot from them lately doesn't mean that they aren't still doing the good work that needs doing.
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I recognize that the Tea Party energy has been channeled into electoral politics, and that truly is the proper path if there is to be any hope whatsoever of a peaceful resolution to the Left-Right conflict. But it would still be comforting to see large rallies in the public square. I'd hate to think one was being exchanged for another. I think both are vital.
Part of the Leftist agenda was to make conservatives believe we were an isolated minority, and that speaking out inherently risked hanging ones self out on a limb. The massive Tea Party protests gave conservatives an opportunity to get out, look around at other patriots across the public square and finally recognize that we were not alone, not isolated, and that if we dared to speak out, we would be backed by our fellow patriots. That is an indispensable element that should not be sacrificed for electoral politics, in my opinion. We need to keep up the visibility in order to keep up the pressure.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204358004577030481545613916.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204358004577030481545613916.html)
Of all the noise of this week's state election results, what mattered most for Election 2012 came out of Virginia. It was the sound of the air leaking out of the Plouffe plan.
Virginia Republicans added seven new seats to their majority in the House of Delegates, giving them two-thirds of that chamber's votes—the party's largest margin in history. The GOP also took over the Virginia Senate in results that were especially notable, given that Virginia Democrats this spring crafted an aggressive redistricting plan that had only one aim: providing a firewall against a Republican takeover of that chamber. Even that extreme gerrymander didn't work.
Every Republican incumbent—52 in the House, 15 in the Senate—won. The state GOP is looking at unified control over government for only the second time since the Civil War. This is after winning all three top statewide offices—including the election of Gov. Bob McDonnell—in 2009, and picking off three U.S. House Democrats in last year's midterms.
Obama may win, I'll concede that because there are an awful lot of really STUPID voters out there. But I don't believe that it is certain that he will win. I think that he has a fairly small chance of winning frankly - as it stands right now anyway. My best guess would be about a 30% chance or so.
I have to ask myself what obama would define as being a win.
He has been trying to bypass congress and senate all along.
If we won every seat in the house and every seat in the senate, he could still do whatever you wanted, throw the country into chaos declare martial law and still say he won.
Winning to him does not mean improving and fixing the country. Winning to him he's destroying this country.
Because of that I believe he can win if he gets reelected. He may not even wait until the election to do that though.
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...Winning to him does not mean improving and fixing the country. Winning to him he's destroying this country...
Yup. This is what victory means to Obama:
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/mime-attachment.jpg)
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/11/14/whats_behind_obamas_uptick_in_job_approval_--_and_will_it_stick_112058.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/11/14/whats_behind_obamas_uptick_in_job_approval_--_and_will_it_stick_112058.html)
The unemployment rate shows little sign of abating, disposable income shows little sign of rising, and his signature legislation shows little sign of becoming popular. His approval ratings on specific issues are abysmal: negative 41 percent on the deficit; negative 37 percent on the economy; negative 24 percent on creating jobs; negative 14 percent on health care. Combined, this exerts a gravitational force on his approval ratings, making it unlikely that he’ll be able to maintain heightened levels for an extended period of time, especially once he comes back into the spotlight.
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He cannot improve any of the horrible unemployment numbers or economic numbers except in a temporary way that will evaporate faster than a drop of water on a frying pan...the only weapon they have is more Porkulus...as long as the House refuses more Obama-style stimulus, he's screwed...the Repub's have to hold that line and keep pushing across the board tax cuts and reduced regulatory burden...proven means of real stimulus!!!
But, I bet the feckless bastards blink and roll over again, so my words are wasted...
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He cannot improve any of the horrible unemployment numbers or economic numbers except in a temporary way that will evaporate faster than a drop of water on a frying pan...the only weapon they have is more Porkulus...as long as the House refuses more Obama-style stimulus, he's screwed...the Repub's have to hold that line and keep pushing across the board tax cuts and reduced regulatory burden...proven means of real stimulus!!!
But, I bet the feckless bastards blink and roll over again, so my words are wasted...
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Has anyone else noticed that when then quarterly or monthly unemployment / jobs numbers come out it's... X. But then it's always 2-3 weeks later on a Friday afternoon when it's released that the numbers were completely wrong and they were actually X - a massive number?
Is anyone stupid enough (or just so utterly ill-informed) anymore that they actually believe the 'jobs' numbers that keep getting thrown out?
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He cannot improve any of the horrible unemployment numbers or economic numbers except in a temporary way that will evaporate faster than a drop of water on a frying pan...the only weapon they have is more Porkulus...as long as the House refuses more Obama-style stimulus, he's screwed...the Repub's have to hold that line and keep pushing across the board tax cuts and reduced regulatory burden...proven means of real stimulus!!!
But, I bet the feckless bastards blink and roll over again, so my words are wasted...
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Has anyone else noticed that when then quarterly or monthly unemployment / jobs numbers come out it's... X. But then it's always 2-3 weeks later on a Friday afternoon when it's released that the numbers were completely wrong and they were actually X - a massive number?
Is anyone stupid enough (or just so utterly ill-informed) anymore that they actually believe the 'jobs' numbers that keep getting thrown out?
The bureaucrats always cook the numbers, there is a lot of massaging of data, perhaps a small amount of which is based upon legitimate lag times, but once the noise settles and hard numbers can be gleaned the revisions come. The market knows this...the general public? Eh, not so much.
The market might think 410k revised up to 420k and 390k revised up to 400k a positive but try telling that to the newly unemployed, or the (officially stated) 3.7m chronically unemployed or the 17 millions displaced by the Obama Depression!
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Right you are Del - it's the way they treat everything. Sort of like predicting that a certain program will cost 1 trillion dollars once we get it implemented only to have it actually cost 800 billion. Then it is trumpeted as a 'savings' on money that wasn't yet spent! Then they turn around and apply that 'saved' cash to a new pet program that was only supposed to cost 200 billion that after all's said and done ends up costing 500 billion. Yeah...some savings!