It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum

Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 12:57:17 AM

Title: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: Pandora on March 09, 2011, 12:57:17 AM
Quote
Published: March 08, 2011
   
WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration has appealed the ruling by a federal judge in Florida that the individual mandate provision of the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional and therefore the entire law is void.

The appeal was filed on Tuesday in Atlanta with the Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit.

On Jan. 31, Judge Roger Vinson, of the Northern District of Florida, in Pensacola, ruled that it's unconstitutional to require people to purchase health insurance. And because that provision in the law cannot be removed from the rest of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), "the entire Act must be declared void."

Last week, Vinson stayed his opinion pending an appeal by the administration, but made the stay contingent on the administration filing the appeal within seven days.

The Supreme Court is expected to be the final arbiter on the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act.

To date, Vinson and another judge have ruled parts of the law unconstitutional; three judges have upheld the ACA's constitutionality; and 13 courts have thrown out the case on various grounds.


Link (http://www.medpagetoday.com/Washington-Watch/Reform/25258)

H/T Rielh World View (http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2011/03/obama-appeals-vinsons-health-reform-ruling-gop-hedges.html), without which we'd have heard nothing.
Title: Re: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: John Florida on March 09, 2011, 09:13:37 AM
Good let's move this ball forward.
Title: Re: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: AmericanPatriot on March 09, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
Anyone know the leanings of this court?
Title: Re: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 09, 2011, 10:14:53 AM
Anyone know the leanings of this court?

It's hard to find anything definitive about ideological leanings in a cursory search. But it appears from what I can glean that this is a pretty evenly divided court with many judges appointed by both Republicans and Democrats, and that it has somewhat of a socially conservative record - affirming prayer at public events, upholding zoning laws for adult entertainment, ruling in favor of former felon voting prohibitions, etc.

I would guess it will boil down to which judge or panel of judges rules on this case.
Title: Re: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 09, 2011, 10:27:02 AM
I would submit that it really doesn't matter. Even if they had chosen the 9th circus and gotten a unanimous opinion, this will be settled, for better or for the end of our country by SCOTUS. And it is that simple - either ØbozoScare dies a richly deserved death or America does.

If the left can mandate this, they can mandate anything.

I won't submit.

The courts can either join me or take their rightful place...in my crosshairs.
Title: Re: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: Libertas on March 09, 2011, 10:28:20 AM
Anyone know the leanings of this court?

Looks about half and half to me.  Can't always tell by who appointed them though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Eleventh_Circuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Eleventh_Circuit)
Title: Re: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: John Florida on March 09, 2011, 11:01:19 AM
Soup's right it doesn't matter.They aren't the final sulution to this it's just another stepping stone.
Title: Re: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 09, 2011, 01:19:09 PM

The matter is will it be sooner or later.

Title: Re: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: John Florida on March 09, 2011, 01:41:00 PM

The matter is will it be sooner or later.



 I think knowing now that the SOB pre funded it later is an advantage to them in the sense that they blow a whole lot of money in the mean while.Even if SCOTUS kills it were out all that money.
Title: Re: Appeal filed with 11 Circuit in Obamacare
Post by: Libertas on March 10, 2011, 07:34:08 AM
Congress could pull the funding, but Obamakov would veto, but burying the measure in every single bill passed would be one way to try to hammer it through.