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Topics => Science, Technology, & Medicine => Topic started by: Pandora on March 08, 2012, 09:03:39 AM

Title: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: Pandora on March 08, 2012, 09:03:39 AM
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LARGO, FL, March 5, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Pepsi Company, which is set to release the new product Pepsi Next in the coming weeks, is facing a more robust boycott as pro-life activists protest the company use of cells derived from an aborted fetus in flavor-enhancing research. But Pepsi has succeeded, with help from the Obama Administration, in keeping its controversial operations from consideration by its shareholders.

In a decision delivered Feb 28th, President Obama’s Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) ruled that PepsiCo’s use of cells derived from aborted fetal remains in their research and development agreement with Senomyx to produce flavor enhancers falls under “ordinary business operations.”

The letter signed by Attorney Brian Pitko of the SEC Office of Chief Counsel was sent in response to a 36-page document submitted by PepsiCo attorneys in January, 2012.  In that filing, PepsiCo pleaded with the SEC to reject the Shareholder’s Resolution filed in October 2011 that the company “adopt a corporate policy that recognizes human rights and employs ethical standards which do not involve using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements.”

WHAAAT?!

I'm .... speechless.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/obama-agency-rules-pepsi-use-of-aborted-fetus-is-ordinary-business (http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/obama-agency-rules-pepsi-use-of-aborted-fetus-is-ordinary-business)
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 08, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
I kinda think that it will be real easy to spread the word that Pepsi Next is made with human fetuses as an ingredient. That's diabolical, and universally abhorrent, regardless of where one stands on life. It's so diabolical, it almost seems like something that Coca Cola would concoct as an urban legend. But alas, our government is more diabolical than any imaginable  soda-war propaganda.
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: Pandora on March 08, 2012, 09:18:50 AM
More information, IDP:

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Though Rosenberg states there is nothing on the company website linking Senomyx with HEK293, a little Googling turned up a patent issued in 2008 for "Recombinant Methods for Expressing a Functional Sweet Taste Receptor," in which a line item mentions HEK293.

So what exactly is HEK293? It's a cell line that started in the 1970s from human embryonic kidney cells. The line was cultured by scientist Alex Van der Eb in the early 1970s at his lab at the University of Leiden, Holland. Since then, the cell line has been cultured and grown in laboratories (you can buy some here). It's primary use is as a protein or a protein vessel -- sort of a natural test tube. It's also pretty common and seems to be available at most laboratory supply companies and used by many R&D facilities. In short, maybe not such a big deal.

So what does all of this mean? Is this "action alert" yet another rant by the right wing to draw attention to itself and delay scientific progress? In my opinion, yes. Children of God for Life has also issued news releases warning parents that childhood vaccines are made with aborted fetus cells. The cells they're talking about have "technically" originated from aborted fetus cells, but it's not like scientists are putting fetus body parts into blenders while laughing. Think of the fetus cells as sort of "ancient ancestors" to the new cells that are readily used today as "building blocks" and receptors in many commonplace scientific experiments in universities, hospitals, and commercial labs.

I would rather see cells being cultivated and grown in labs for use in experiments than the heinous wholesale torture and experimentation on laboratory animals. True, some of the experimentation is frivolous (who gives a rat's ass about finding out if something is sweeter than sugar -- use sugar sparingly and let's call it a day), but evil? I think not. This seems like just another way the religious right wants to set science and progress back to the "good old days" -- when people died from the common cold and the only way you could sweeten your iced tea was with sugar.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortorder/2011/03/are_aborted_fetus_cells_helpin.php (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortorder/2011/03/are_aborted_fetus_cells_helpin.php)

It doesn't appear to me this is a conspiracy cooked up by Coke; it appears to be very real.

More here >>>

http://www.examiner.com/holistic-wellness-in-national/pepsi-kraft-and-nestle-products-use-aborted-fetal-cells-for-flavoring (http://www.examiner.com/holistic-wellness-in-national/pepsi-kraft-and-nestle-products-use-aborted-fetal-cells-for-flavoring)
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 08, 2012, 09:35:58 AM
Oh, I wasn't suggesting it was cooked up by Coke - only that it is so diabolical, it's almost that absurd, except that it's real.

It's disgusting. Even if human embryonic cells aren't technically "in" the Pepsi, the fact that a human cell derivative is used in a commercial beverage - I just have to think that such a thing becoming widely known would send almost everyone off the high end of the disgust meter.
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: Pandora on March 08, 2012, 09:41:56 AM
I wish I was only disgusted.  I'm quite blown away.  Shocked.  Immensely sad.  I fear for us as humans ...

God must be quite pissed ...
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: LadyVirginia on March 08, 2012, 10:24:22 AM
I heard about this months ago and told my husband.  He switched back to Coke immediately.

Coke was in business with the same company providing this service to Pepsi but ended their relationship.

Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: radioman on March 08, 2012, 10:53:21 AM
Are wee going to become Cannibals eating our Young?
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 08, 2012, 11:02:57 AM

Mmmmm yummy, this is something the public can get a hold of;
thigh steaks and rump roasts, America's on the Donner Road to Hell.
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 08, 2012, 11:19:00 AM
Oh come on! No one posted it?
IT'S PEOPLE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE#ws)
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: Pandora on March 08, 2012, 11:21:04 AM
Not really up to mocking on it.  It's ... sickening.
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 08, 2012, 11:28:42 AM

It's craven, horrendous.
People should rail en mass against this.
Rush and Levin should be talking about this.

BUT

Oh no, we're not putting human parts in your food we're just using the "information"
derived from our investigations. 


Pukes
 
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: Libertas on March 08, 2012, 11:30:09 AM
Soylent Pepsi...we should flavor our streets with their exec's, eh?  I mean, where is a line drawn?

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: LadyVirginia on March 08, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
Gives a whole new meaning to Pepsi Generation


Pepsi Generation Vintage Commericial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWQkf0w5JR4#)


"Come alive. You're in the Pepsi Generation."
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: Libertas on March 08, 2012, 11:55:03 AM
Sick, evil bastards.
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: ToddF on March 09, 2012, 09:53:13 AM
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It's a cell line that started in the 1970s from human embryonic kidney cells.

And you thought Mountain Dew just looked like piss...   ::stirpot::
Title: Re: Pepsi use of cells derived from aborted fetus ruled as ‘ordinary business’
Post by: LadyVirginia on March 09, 2012, 10:08:09 AM
from Pepsico.com (http://Pepsico.com)

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Our products can be found in nearly 200 countries around the globe. PepsiCo offers the world's largest portfolio of billion-dollar food and beverage brands, including 22 different product lines that each generates more than $1 billion in annual retail sales.


Click on the link and you will discover the hundreds of brands they own.

Fortunately, the only item I buy occassionally is Lipton and that's usually because I'm at a store withh limited choices. Plenty of other teas out there.