It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Economy => Topic started by: trapeze on March 17, 2011, 01:33:07 PM
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Well, to sum it up: Pretty suckie.
No one wants them. Consumer Reports panned them big time. They don't heat in the winter and don't cool in the summer. And they only qualify as an "electric car" if you really, really use your imagination.
LINK (http://www.forbes.com/2011/03/16/chevy-volt-ayn-rand-opinions-patrick-michaels_2.html)
[blockquote]Recently, President Obama selected General Electric ( GE - news - people ) CEO Jeffrey Immelt to chair his Economic Advisory Board. GE is awash in windmills waiting to be subsidized so they can provide unreliable, expensive power.
Consequently, and soon after his appointment, Immelt announced that GE will buy 50,000 Volts in the next two years, or half the total produced. Assuming the corporation qualifies for the same tax credit, we (you and me) just shelled out $375,000,000 to a company to buy cars that no one else wants so that GM will not tank and [will be able to] produce even more cars that no one wants. And this guy is the chair of Obama's Economic Advisory Board?[/blockquote]
If that doesn't piss you off as a taxpayer I don't know what will.
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That pisses me off as a taxpayer.
::falldownshocked::::rockets::
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Heard that one may purchase two (2) Prius for the cost of one Volt. The Prius gets better mileage and has an overall SMALLER CARBON FOOTPRINT than the Volt.
'Scuse me while I pull out my little V6 Camry. --- scat
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This is absolute bull!!There is no way GE will buy 50k of those cars. It's just a fairy tail.Along with the rest of the never ending fairy tails.
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Uhh, GE is still a publically-traded company, right?
This is screaming for a shareholder proxy war to unseat the BOD that signs off on this pig-in-a-poke!
One simple question - Is the total of the tax credit going to come close to covering the maintenance costs inherent in operating a 50k fleet of these little disasters-in-waiting?!
Stupid on both ends!
Wake up shareholders! Stand with the taxpayers on opposing this boondoggle!
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Anyone want to bet on two items ?
1. Stymie is named "Salesman of the Year" by Chevrolet .
2. The remaining 50,000 Volts will be purchased by the G.S.A. ( at a sharp discount further screwing the taxpayers ) .
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Yeah.
The only way the taxpayer can get any kind of deal out of this is by buying the internal-combustion vehicles being put up for auction as the government fleets are replaced...perhpas the glut of government vehicles will bring the unit cost down for the buyers...short of that...everybody just gets screwed in this deal!
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I'm sure sales will skyrocket, after the millions spent advertising it this past weekend.
Right?
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I'm sure sales will skyrocket, after the millions spent advertising it this past weekend.
Right?
Yea, I loooove thier new commercial...Already touting a "new improved" distance these things will travel.....
When we all know China made GM a longer electrical cord.
G(m)E, we bring good things to light. ::hysterical:: Yeah, right.
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My guess is that the tax benefits, no-bid work, favorable regulations and the words "corporate responsibility" will all make this come to pass. GE will make out like a bandit.
(pun intended)
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I think they should have named it the Dolt, not the Volt, but I always favor truth in advertising, so...
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I think they should have named it the Dolt, not the Volt, but I always favor truth in advertising, so...
" The Dolt " .... I like it ! May I use it in future conversations ?
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I think they should have named it the Dolt, not the Volt, but I always favor truth in advertising, so...
" The Dolt " .... I like it ! May I use it in future conversations ?
Please do! And remember, it is best utilized when it is dripping with sarcasm!
::stirpot::
::thumbsup::
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Someone needs to write a childrens book......
The Dolt in the Volt.
Like the cat in the hat, but would be way more entertaining.
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Heh, pretty good idea.
Gonna be hard working some rhymes I imagine! But if it could be put together I think it would be a masterpiece!
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We have a lot of threads documenting the stupidity that is the Chevy Volt, er Dolt!
These are but the primary ones -
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=4705.msg52245#msg52245 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=4705.msg52245#msg52245)
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=4189.msg45989#msg45989 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=4189.msg45989#msg45989)
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=4751.msg52489#msg52489 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=4751.msg52489#msg52489)
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=1133.msg12211#msg12211 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=1133.msg12211#msg12211)
But I think it most appropriate to post an update to this proglodyte disaster from day one in this thread right here that was initiated by our good friend Trap, who's thread title I think best predicted the epitaph for this sorry resource-destroying nightmare!
Another Electric Car Bites The Dust: Current Chevy Volt To Go The Way Of The Aztek Due To Plunging Sales (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-09/another-electric-car-bites-dust-chevy-volt-go-way-aztek)
“People said they didn’t want a science experiment,”
Put a stake in it!
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Shocking!
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Shocking!
I see what you did there. ::beertoast::
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Shocking!
I see what you did there. ::beertoast::
Yes, sure, the concept was electrifying and the demise is certainly shocking.
Hybrid technology is a valuable tool and works rather well on certain cars and industries but the government once again was lured into backing a project that was inferior to that of the market and of course the tax payers were forcibly hooked once again.
With all said in done, we're once again reminded of the folly that is big government.
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I remember reading a couple years ago that a disproportionate number of the overall fleet of Volts manufactured were purchased by government. I'd love to see that final percentage once its all said and done.
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And guess who will be picking up the tab when all those Volts quickly go out of service, and all the heavy metals (mined and refined in China, with zero regard for environmental safety btw) and toxic chemicals in those batteries has to be disposed of?
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I remember reading a couple years ago that a disproportionate number of the overall fleet of Volts manufactured were purchased by government. I'd love to see that final percentage once its all said and done.
I bet the govt is selling them off to. 'm seeing more and more of them on the road where I haven't before.
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I remember reading a couple years ago that a disproportionate number of the overall fleet of Volts manufactured were purchased by government. I'd love to see that final percentage once its all said and done.
I bet the govt is selling them off to. 'm seeing more and more of them on the road where I haven't before.
The US gov. bought 70 % of them. what happens to them I have no idea.
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What percentage of those in government hands are actual used for more than lot decoration? What is the cost (ha! like they even know or want to!) of maintaining them? What the hell are they going to do with them after they don't even want them anymore? Actually, that last one I think I know...they'll auction them off to the public and let them deal with the high cost of maintenance and toxic waste disposal...and sic the EPA on their asses if they fail to do it right, right?
Taxpayers always get it, and they always get it more than once!!! ::outrage::
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What percentage of those in government hands are actual used for more than lot decoration? What is the cost (ha! like they even know or want to!) of maintaining them? What the hell are they going to do with them after they don't even want them anymore? Actually, that last one I think I know...they'll auction them off to the public and let them deal with the high cost of maintenance and toxic waste disposal...and sic the EPA on their asses if they fail to do it right, right?
Taxpayers always get it, and they always get it more than once!!! ::outrage::
There isn't much as far as maintenance cause they are still under factory coverage which is 8 year 100K miles for the battery and 5 year 100K drive train. once those are up only God know where it all ends up. I figure they will dump them or park them someplace out of sight and leave them there till the world ends.
This will give you a warm fuzzy feeling??
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/25/hundreds-of-5-year-old-municipal-vehicles-found-in-miami-that-we/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/25/hundreds-of-5-year-old-municipal-vehicles-found-in-miami-that-we/)
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What percentage of those in government hands are actual used for more than lot decoration? What is the cost (ha! like they even know or want to!) of maintaining them? What the hell are they going to do with them after they don't even want them anymore? Actually, that last one I think I know...they'll auction them off to the public and let them deal with the high cost of maintenance and toxic waste disposal...and sic the EPA on their asses if they fail to do it right, right?
Taxpayers always get it, and they always get it more than once!!! ::outrage::
There isn't much as far as maintenance cause they are still under factory coverage which is 8 year 100K miles for the battery and 5 year 100K drive train. once those are up only God know where it all ends up. I figure they will dump them or park them someplace out of sight and leave them there till the world ends.
This will give you a warm fuzzy feeling??
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/25/hundreds-of-5-year-old-municipal-vehicles-found-in-miami-that-we/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/25/hundreds-of-5-year-old-municipal-vehicles-found-in-miami-that-we/)
Dade County, figures. As I understand it that former honcho down there probably learned all about corruption and exploitation working for the PoPo there before becoming Mayor...
Another clear cut example where people need to be publically tried and strung up...
Oh well...we'll get there one way or the other...
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Nobody knows how much the sob made on the Toyota deal.