It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Pandora on June 29, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
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I'm asking. I'm serious. For years, I have looked at Venezuela and wondered in astonishment how the people there let Chavez do what he's done. Now it's our turn and I'm horrified and terrified. Although we have November's election, I see VDH (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/304411/not-so-good-news-victor-davis-hanson#comment-bar) has some thoughts:
... after a “disastrous” May and June, Obama is edging up again in the polls. For all the reports of his fundraising problems or his existential election crises, he seems to have many millions in key swing states to run class-warfare hits against Romney. The serial “Swiss bank accounts” and “shipping jobs overseas” don’t seem to be countered, and so are having some effect. If Obama is where he is after a disastrous 60 days, where will he be after a so-so next two months?
Conservatives should not listen to themselves and their ingenious rationalization about how things are “really” swinging their way, and instead accept that the presidency, the courts, and much of Congress are doing all they can, as quickly as they can, with enormous powers at their disposal, to change the fundamental nature of the United States — and so far are mostly winning. All of the above should mobilize conservatives in 2012 as never before and open their eyes to the resources and zealotry pledged against them: November is really a sort of last-ditch effort in a way prior elections were not.
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I don't know.
Because I believe that this is a spiritual battle I wasn't all that hopeful yesterday morning that the Court would save us. I think the worst has yet to come. What little we've done so far isn't enough to merit relief or mercy from the Almighty.
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I don't know.
Because I believe that this is a spiritual battle I wasn't all that hopeful yesterday morning that the Court would save us. I think the worst has yet to come. What little we've done so far isn't enough to merit relief or mercy from the Almighty.
And now I feel my heart sink even further.
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This IS the government the people of this country want. They want something for nothing, and will vote for it every single time. And the ranks of takers is soon to exceed the ranks of makers. There is no turning it back at this phase, though we are still obliged to try. I don't think it will be amenable to change until there has been enough of a Galt scenario. It's like the Ant & Grasshopper story. The grasshopper was living it up, going through all the available food until it was suddenly depleted. No more could be found or coerced from the ant. The long, cold winter sets in. Our country of grasshoppers is happily eating the seed crop, oblivious to what it means for the near future.
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I don't know.
Because I believe that this is a spiritual battle I wasn't all that hopeful yesterday morning that the Court would save us. I think the worst has yet to come. What little we've done so far isn't enough to merit relief or mercy from the Almighty.
And now I feel my heart sink even further.
sorry ::grouphug::
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I don't know.
Because I believe that this is a spiritual battle I wasn't all that hopeful yesterday morning that the Court would save us. I think the worst has yet to come. What little we've done so far isn't enough to merit relief or mercy from the Almighty.
And now I feel my heart sink even further.
sorry ::grouphug::
It's okay, LV. It is what it is.
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I don't know.
Because I believe that this is a spiritual battle I wasn't all that hopeful yesterday morning that the Court would save us. I think the worst has yet to come. What little we've done so far isn't enough to merit relief or mercy from the Almighty.
And now I feel my heart sink even further.
sorry ::grouphug::
It's okay, LV. It is what it is.
And I get emails from the RNC looking for money and get this even Mcconell sent one. I think they have a pretty good idea that all they're getting is scorn and no cash.
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Yeah, Mitt calls me friend.
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I was going to suggest we start an adopt a senator program then I saw this:
http://minx.cc/?post=330592 (http://minx.cc/?post=330592)
Don't know how he made that list and skipped the Ted Cruz (yeah Ted) vs David (it's OK if the TSA feels you up) Dewhurst, for Kay Bailey Hutchison's seat.
Each person adopt's an out of state Tea Party candidate for senator and if one can, the house. In 'ten I spoke to an out of region candidtate headquarters and they were delighted for any help whatsoever.
It could grow multiples of support for the candidate and bring a lot of info to IAL.
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Our state Attorney General wants to be governor and is (was) favored to win. I've known that he was a soft conservative (a matter of many heated discussions with my brother!). His pronouncement in the wake of SCOTUS-gate:
Attorney General Rob McKenna did his best to count victories this morning after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the lawsuit he joined to overturn the Affordable Care Act. And he said other Republicans should drop talk of a wholesale repeal of the law because “that's not going to happen.”
At a late morning press conference, McKenna insisted the ruling was good for Washington because the court ruled Congress doesn't have the authority under the Constitution's Commerce Clause to order people to buy health care insurance. “We achieved our goal” of finding that out, he said.
But he was surprised by the decision of five members of the court to rule the mandate is allowable under Congress's taxing authority, adding that Chief Justice John Roberts' determination that the tax isn't subject to the restrictions of some other taxes was “a bracket buster.”
The state should move ahead with its work to meet provisions of the law, such as the Health Insurance Exchange which will allow individuals to shop for insurance more easilly, he said, and to look for more ways to reform health care.
But other Republicans should stop talking about repealing the law, and instead focus on specific provisions that prove unworkable, he said.
Democrats passed a massive bill with many controversial provisions by pushing it through Congress. “To completely blow it up means we're essentially doing the same thing, in reverse,” he said.
Besides, the Democratically controlled Senate isn't going to repeal the law, and Obama isn't going to sign a repeal, he said.
About an hour ago I received an email from his campaign asking for money (of course!) and participation in a 4th of July parade. My reply:
Would that be the same rob mckenna who, in the face of a stinging defeat, sought self-aggrandizement by claiming victory on one of the slenderest of threads? The same rob mckenna who then went on to say, "other Republicans should drop talk of a wholesale repeal of the law because “that's not going to happen.” and "Democrats passed a massive bill with many controversial provisions by pushing it through Congress. “To completely blow it up means we're essentially doing the same thing, in reverse”? That rob mckenna?
I need a guy who will fight the dhimmicrat bastards, not claim false victories and take easy exits. The recent SCOTUS ruling was deplorable and the betrayal of both citizens and constitutional principles was sickening, but I'm not throwing in the towel. If rob mckenna is then he's not the man for me.
By the way, I have bcc'd a number of my friends to this email - bcc because I don't want them to be subjected to spam.
Please remove me from your mailing list and do not contact me again.
I'm done with pantywaists and milquetoasts.
WAR
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::thumbsup:: , AS. Nicely done.
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I'm asking. I'm serious. For years, I have looked at Venezuela and wondered in astonishment how the people there let Chavez do what he's done. Now it's our turn and I'm horrified and terrified. Although we have November's election, I see VDH (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/304411/not-so-good-news-victor-davis-hanson#comment-bar) has some thoughts:
... after a “disastrous” May and June, Obama is edging up again in the polls. For all the reports of his fundraising problems or his existential election crises, he seems to have many millions in key swing states to run class-warfare hits against Romney. The serial “Swiss bank accounts” and “shipping jobs overseas” don’t seem to be countered, and so are having some effect. If Obama is where he is after a disastrous 60 days, where will he be after a so-so next two months?
Conservatives should not listen to themselves and their ingenious rationalization about how things are “really” swinging their way, and instead accept that the presidency, the courts, and much of Congress are doing all they can, as quickly as they can, with enormous powers at their disposal, to change the fundamental nature of the United States — and so far are mostly winning. All of the above should mobilize conservatives in 2012 as never before and open their eyes to the resources and zealotry pledged against them: November is really a sort of last-ditch effort in a way prior elections were not.
We could do what most Latin American countries do but it involves mass executions and starting a new government from scratch . ::)
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At this point we need a Pinochet of our own.
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If I am not mistaken as a tax the mandate can be removed from Obamacare on a simple majority vote. All financial matters rest with the house.
Also if it is a tax then Nancy Pelosi's final vote on the law is null and void. As financial matters cannot be decided in the manner chosen by her.
Democrats cannot have their cake and eat it too.
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If I am not mistaken as a tax the mandate can be removed from Obamacare on a simple majority vote. All financial matters rest with the house.
Also if it is a tax then Nancy Pelosi's final vote on the law is null and void. As financial matters cannot be decided in the manner chosen by her.
Democrats cannot have their cake and eat it too.
If the Rule of Law existed, true. But it doesn't, so there's no reason to think they can't. They do it routinely.
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If I am not mistaken as a tax the mandate can be removed from Obamacare on a simple majority vote. All financial matters rest with the house.
Also if it is a tax then Nancy Pelosi's final vote on the law is null and void. As financial matters cannot be decided in the manner chosen by her.
Democrats cannot have their cake and eat it too.
If the Rule of Law existed, true. But it doesn't, so there's no reason to think they can't. They do it routinely.
The Rules of Reality still exist and they will not be ignored or thwarted, despite what the marxists insist and demand. We need to see to it that they are made to suffer from that more than us.
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At this point we need a Pinochet of our own.
May I suggest an Andrew Jackson.
"The Rules of Reality still exist and they will not be ignored or thwarted..." [period]
Not once in the testaments does God say "oh, that's OK sonny", He has one method to get one's attention and He employs it in varying degrees.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/shocking-images-follow-super-d/67389 (http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/shocking-images-follow-super-d/67389)
There is also annual sales closing April 30, for S&W at about 430 mil.
At 650 ea that is 661 thousand weapons not counting sales of miscellaneous items. That's one company for one year.
The court ruling didn't tell us anything we didn't know, it codified it.
It's not shocking it's clarifying. I am content to pray for my country and friends and for the wisdom and strength to do what's right. It's in his hands and so are we.
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The question may be, can we stop it?
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/hero-general-obama-following-castros-plan/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/hero-general-obama-following-castros-plan/)
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The question may be, can we stop it?
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/hero-general-obama-following-castros-plan/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/hero-general-obama-following-castros-plan/)
They were working on #5 till F&F blew up in their faces, their hopes are now pinned on the UN's Agenda 21 bullpatties. And I would consider arming bureaucrats up the wazoo and a step forward with #6. We're almost there. BITS coming to a neighborhood near you.
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I think a key element of the "constabulary force" is that it is comprised of people who are not professionals in a military or police sense. It would be comprised of people with an axe to grind and a reason to be loyal to the regime. Think pardoned felons, etc. In Russia it was the Bolshevik rabble.
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Not once in the testaments does God say "oh, that's OK sonny", He has one method to get one's attention and He employs it in varying degrees.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/shocking-images-follow-super-d/67389 (http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/shocking-images-follow-super-d/67389)
It would be interesting to see if the damage sustained in the east was primarily sustained by libs. Is God acting to show his anger at where we are heading?
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Not once in the testaments does God say "oh, that's OK sonny", He has one method to get one's attention and He employs it in varying degrees.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/shocking-images-follow-super-d/67389 (http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/shocking-images-follow-super-d/67389)
It would be interesting to see if the damage sustained in the east was primarily sustained by libs. Is God acting to show his anger at where we are heading?
No, He's trying to get their attention.
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Not once in the testaments does God say "oh, that's OK sonny", He has one method to get one's attention and He employs it in varying degrees.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/shocking-images-follow-super-d/67389 (http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/shocking-images-follow-super-d/67389)
It would be interesting to see if the damage sustained in the east was primarily sustained by libs. Is God acting to show his anger at where we are heading?
No, He's trying to get their attention.
They aren't paying attention, and even if they are they will only blame man (climate change) not themselves and their own folly.