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Title: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 07:49:39 PM
If enough, perhaps we should fire up the chat room.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 28, 2012, 09:25:21 PM
If enough, perhaps we should fire up the chat room.

I am
just got home...

listened on way to the radio
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 09:27:07 PM
Sorry.  Not interested.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Predator Don on August 28, 2012, 09:31:49 PM
Watching Ann Romney.......started a little slow, but she is hitting stride. Doing a good job, IMO.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 09:42:35 PM
Awright, goldammy!  I'm sucked in by Christie's speech and I don't like him.  Nevertheless .........
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 28, 2012, 09:51:14 PM
Awright, goldammy!  I'm sucked in by Christie's speech and I don't like him.  Nevertheless .........

hahahaha




anyone --how'd Walker do?  I wanted to hear him but missed him
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 09:53:02 PM
Christie's lumping himself in with Conservatives.  He's no freakin' Conservative.  Bleh .......
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 28, 2012, 09:54:00 PM
Christie's lumping himself in with Conservatives.  He's no freakin' Conservative.  Bleh .......

must be New Jersey conservativism
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 09:54:57 PM
Christie's lumping himself in with Conservatives.  He's no freakin' Conservative.  Bleh .......

must be New Jersey conservativism

Yah, otherwise known as dem-lite.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 09:55:53 PM
But his speechwriter is good.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: EW1(SG) on August 28, 2012, 10:00:55 PM
So we should toss Christie and keep the speechwriter?
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 10:03:30 PM
So we should toss Christie and keep the speechwriter?

You think either believes in the words?  I don't.

And try tossing Christie.  Hernia central.

/fattie fatfat joke
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 10:10:44 PM
Juan Williams' take on Ann Romney's speech:  She's a very rich woman.  Not connectible to the average woman's life.

You sonofabitch you.  She's had cancer and has MS.  Where does "rich" fix that? 
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Predator Don on August 28, 2012, 10:13:38 PM
Christie's speech was good. I'll give him some slack because a conservative in NJ stands no chance being elected. I'll take his brand of conservatism in NJ over a liberal dem in charge. If he continues to do good things in the state, maybe conservatives will have more opportunity later.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
I got home late from work. I'm seeing everything delayed by way of DVR...

Watched Santorum's speech. It got a little slow toward the end with his "I've shook the hands of America" stuff. I also noticed that he did not hesitate to slam O'Bongo. That was one of Limbaugh's concerns. Other observations: I don't care for the style of speaking where they stop at pre-planned "applause points" and wait for the audience to clap and cheer (whether they like it or not). Overall a good speech but by no means spectacular. It does sort of show us what we might have had (as a candidate, as a campaigner) in Rick Santorum and yeah, we could have done better. It remains to be seen if Romney can be better at this.

Next up was Ted Cruz and I thought he gave a much better speech even if he also did the stop and wait for applause stuff. It's like the people in charge took the speech as written and then decided where the speaker would pause...probably set it up on the teleprompter that way. Anyway, I have no doubt at all after listening to Ted Cruz speak that he will crush the Democrat in November. I can see why, after he had the time to properly present himself as the alternative to establishment favorite Dewhurst, that he won in a landslide. The guy has presence and he is 100% pro Constitution and pro liberty. This will be a Tea Party senator. Cruz is also not afraid to mention the president's failings. This is good.

Now I am watching Artur Davis, this convention's Zell Miller and, well, WOW. They should have had him do the intro for Romney. He is kicking ass. I will remind everyone that Davis was O'Bongo's campaign co-chair. What a turnaround. He starts out by saying that four years ago he was in the wrong place. He mocks the Greek columns of the 2008 Democrat convention..."Things that start with styrofoam columns and fake smoke do not end well." What incredible O'Bongo criticism. Holy cow. There are no pulled punches here. He is kicking O'Bongo's ass all over this stage...mopping the floor with O'Bongo's worthless ass. Davis is a terrific orator. They need him on the campaign trail with Romney and Ryan every single day until the election. Now he is slamming the Democrat Party in general. Taking NO prisoners. Woo, hoo! Davis is the Saul of Tarsis of this campaign. He has truly had a "road to Damascus" conversion.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Predator Don on August 28, 2012, 10:15:17 PM
Juan Williams' take on Ann Romney's speech:  She's a very rich woman.  Not connectible to the average woman's life.

You sonofabitch you.  She's had cancer and has MS.  Where does "rich" fix that? 


Dons take on JUAN Williams...he's a very stupid man.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 10:18:01 PM
Walker was good, Santorum did well and I thought that Davis fella was a hoot (Dem's really pissed about that latter one escaping the Plantation, attcking him before he even spoke.).

Not my new BFF by any means, but an escapee talking down Duh Wun, that's gotta leave a mark...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/congressional-black-caucus-attacks-artur-davis-for-leaving-plantation-and-supporting-romney/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/congressional-black-caucus-attacks-artur-davis-for-leaving-plantation-and-supporting-romney/)

ETA - Cruz was good, he needs some polish before a big audience, but it is no wonder he trounced a douche like Dewhurst.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 10:25:25 PM
Now Nikki Haley. Poised and confident presence on stage. Starts out with the mom and dad stuff and immediately turns it into a O'Bongo slam against the "you didn't build that" theme. Hammered on South Carolina's manufacturing base as a foil to the washed up union strongholds.

She goes on to also kick O'Bongo's ass about regulations. This is good.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 10:28:28 PM
Meghan Kelly:  "You know whose standing did not improve with women tonight?  Juan Williams."

Right on.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 10:28:52 PM
I really dislike the moving background. It looks like white smoke is moving back and forth and up and down on a blue background...very distracting while I'm trying to focus on the speakers.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 10:32:07 PM
Now listening to the first lady of Puerto Rico, Luce Vela Fortuno. She would make a heck of a contrast to that hispanic feminazi Eva Longoria. She speaks well with a relatively heavy accent. Very authentic sounding. She is doing the intro for Ann Romney.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 10:40:32 PM
Now Ann Romney takes the stage. Good contrast with the red dress against the blue background. Looks like they turned off the moving smoke stuff. She is very telegenic. Starts out by acknowledging the hurricane and asks for everyone to keep the people in its path on their minds.

She is talking about her husband, of course. This is a typical thing now. This type of speech was pioneered by Elizabeth Dole. Dole set the standard for this type of speech and the standard she set was very high. That's good because it forces these women who have followed her to do at least as well. I didn't care for McSlug's wife at all. Ann Romney seems much more real in her presentation of the Dole speech. Good eye contact. She has been giving speeches in public for a long time. Or she is a natural. Or both. She is very, very good. Has the attention of everyone in the hall. Earlier when others were speaking you could occasionally see someone consulting their smartphones...not now. Everyone is paying attention to her. She is a good warmup for Christie.

She starts out by identifying with all of the women, especially mothers, in the hall and in the television audience. She is saying "I'm you." A neat trick for a multi-millionaire. This is, of course, the lead in for Mitt.

So...she is humanizing Mitt...now that she has established that she is every woman in the audience she is now establishing that Mitt is every guy. Or...more importantly, she is establishing that Mitt is the guy that every woman would want for a husband and father to their children. As I said, she is humanizing him. This is, of course, critical since the media and O'Bongo have gone the distance in an attempt to de-humanize him. She is doing this by way of recounting her personal history with Mitt. How they met. How they got married. How they had kids...grandkids. The audience is eating it up. As I said, she is a pro at this or a natural or both. She is a lot better at timing the pauses with the applause lines. Maybe her speech is better written. Don't know.

One of the subconscious themes here is that she is contrasting her marriage with the O'Bongo's. Not directly, of course. She isn't holding them up side by side but by talking about how wonderful her marriage is she is inviting the contrast. Likewise with her talking up Mitt's morality and principles and values, etc. Because that's what an election is about...a comparison and a contrast. She does throw in the "he built it" about his business after all of this talk about how great Mitt is...comparison and contrast without any implicit comparison and contrast. Again, this is the Elizabeth Dole speech to perfection.

More comparing herself and Mitt to every normal couple in America. The "we are you" message is front and center.

Not a barn burner speech but it wasn't supposed to be...that's coming up with Christie, I suppose. She did exactly what she was supposed to do with this speech. Authoritative and direct without being shrill and/or creepy like Chewbacca O'Bongo.

The one thing at variance with the Elizabeth Dole speech was she didn't go down into the audience and mingle with the delegates Oprah-style. I'm okay with that. She didn't need to do it to be effective.

Mitt comes out at the end and does the kiss and hug thing. And he did it without the disgusting saliva laden deep tongue thing that Algore did with poor Tipper.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 10:57:55 PM
Now the video intro for Christie. This video says to me, "Chris Christie is a big tank of goo with attitude."
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 10:58:12 PM
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She is saying "I'm you." A neat trick for a multi-millionaire.

Really?
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 11:00:30 PM
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She is saying "I'm you." A neat trick for a multi-millionaire.

Really?

Really, really.

Just my analysis. Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 11:02:54 PM
Christie starts out with his family story...an old school American success story.

I can't help thinking, as I listen to Christie, that he would have a heck of a lot better speech if there was a heckler he could beat the crap out of.
Or maybe if they allowed a few questions from the press so that he could smack them around a bit. That would be fun.

The moving smokey background is back for Christie's speech. Too bad. I hate it.

Now he is talking about our heritage...about our ancestors who kicked ass...who could probably kick our lazy asses...he is trying to inspire us to be better than we are right now. He is using his experience as governor to do this. He is saying that New Jersey was f**ked but because he went in and kicked ass it's better now and will continue to improve. He's probably right if he can only get re-elected. But I digress. He is using his experience as governor as an intro for what Romney needs to do, will do, as president. He is saying that if the residents of New Jersey can do it then the rest of the country can.

Christie is also keeping up with the Democrat/O'Bongo bashing. That's good. Needs to happen. I sure hope that Romney can do it. It would be very cool after putting out the "O'Bongo is a nice guy in over his head" stuff, Romney instead bashes the crap out of O'Bongo like Reagan did Carter.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on August 28, 2012, 11:14:55 PM
Watching Ann Romney.......started a little slow, but she is hitting stride. Doing a good job, IMO.

There were SO many good speeches.....Gov. Nikki Haley, Gov. Bob McConnell, Gov. Kasich, I could not believe how good ann Romny was, and Gov. Chris Christie too.  What a night for  conservative thought!!!
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 11:18:13 PM
Christie's speech is the barn burner. No surprise there.

Interesting...he talks about how our strength is in our ideas. I sure hope that those ideas don't include raising taxes and giving out amnesty.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 11:22:41 PM
BTW...with apologies to Libertas, I'm going to rename this thread to make it the RNC thread.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 28, 2012, 11:24:02 PM

Your analysis is comforting, I didn't get to watch.
[blockquote]
The moving background, it must be the juvenile stage directors
or show producers, it's in vogue, they either don't understand
that the folks who watch these things or, say Fox, have an
attention span and do not require constant visual or audio stimulus
to stay attuned to the presentation.  Sometimes it's so bad I
want to throw up.  Wonder how many viewers flip the channel
because of the extra auditory and visual stimulation they put up?[/blockquote]

I'm going to check for repeats when I leave.

Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 11:24:51 PM
This convention, with these speeches, should make a heck of a contrast to the Democrat abortion fest coming up next week.

We talk about liberty, about freedom, about leadership and success.

They talk about abortion on demand. And food stamps. And bailouts.

Night and day.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 11:25:26 PM

Your analysis is comforting, I didn't get to watch.


cspan will probably have a complete rerun.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 11:27:05 PM
I would be a lot more impressed with Christie's speech if he weren't pro-gay marriage. And pro-amnesty. And if he was an avowed enemy of O'BongoCare.

But it was about as good a speech as you are going to get from him. It was good. It was inspiring. Most people will like it because they don't know that under all of that tough guy persona and talk he is mostly an establishment RINO. RINO Lite, I guess.

The night's speeches end with a hard rock music act. Not bad...makes us look somewhat cool. I wish they had had these guys, too...

Blame It On Bush / The Voters - OFFICIAL VIDEO HD1080p.mov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzHAlwEK7a4#ws)

They finish with another hispanic...a Christian pastor of some sort to give a rather fiery benediction. Makes me wonder if they will manage to squeeze in a mormon clergy at some point. I also wonder if Mitt will be sworn in with the book of mormon. Not that it matters all that much. O'Bongo was sworn in with a bible and yet almost immediately began violating his oath of office in a way that could charitably be described as "reckless." It's the man and his character rather than the book he takes his oath of office on. They could swear on the stone tablets that God gave to Moses and if their character is deeply flawed like, say, O'Bongo, then it matters not at all.

Okay, so comment on...I'm gonna rename this thread to something more appropriate for the rest of the convention...and look forward to tomorrow night's activities.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 28, 2012, 11:32:58 PM

I think he likes the slims also.

Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 11:48:53 PM
I looked around quickly and did not see any split screen hurricane nonsense. Did anyone see that happen?

I watched cspan so there were no ads, no analysis and no split screens. Missed nothing although I didn't start the recording early enough. I will fix that for tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 06:43:29 AM
The renaming is fine Trap.  As for the analysis I guess I could have done without the Al/Tipper slobber-tongue imagery, but I guess something was needed to provide contrast...
 ::puke::

I also find it somewhat humorous that spouses of nominees have to speak to humanize their mates.  Sure, it is driven by the fact that the grotesquely left-wing biased media demonizes all non-proglodyte candidates with manic delight, but if we're going to go the humanizing route why not go full bore?  How about a slide show/film roll of the Romney's greatest (and perhaps not so great) moments instead of just a speech?  Que up a speech then roll film.  Anyway, tonight will have the big guns, hope they got their game faces on.  If I don't basically hear they're gonna grab the SCoaMF by the nose and kick his ass from now till election day...well, why be in this at all?  I guess we'll see if it's to be fire in the belly, lead in the ass or something in between.  Could be another case where the Veep outshines the top of the ticket.

Didn't see much about a hurricane, is there a hurricane?   ::stirpot::
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 06:51:10 AM
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She is saying "I'm you." A neat trick for a multi-millionaire.

Really?

Oh Oh, too much like Juan Williams' "sounds like a corporate wife" quip about Ann Romney! 

I wish I could be there for such events...why isn't there ever anybody there to come back with a "as opposed to a looter wife, eh, Juan" quip?!
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 29, 2012, 07:55:02 AM
I thought the speeches all provided a nice contrast to what we know about dems and will hear next week.

Ann Romney did set up a nice contrast which the media will probably ignore.  What could the media compare to anyway?  A guy who lounged about?  I wished she would have slipped in a quip about Mitt's grades.

Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 29, 2012, 08:39:13 AM
Good first nite. I thought our speakers did a good job accentuating the strong points of party, while leaving alone our disagreements we have with a few and with the rinos. I appreciated the fact we did not pander ( in speech) to every hyphenated american, but told our story, made our case.

Christie, I wonder if some of his stances are based on getting elected in the northeast and not conviction of heart. I couldn't do it but I don't necessarily believe it bad for the party if we had some that would.

Anyway, looking forward to tonites line up. We seem to be subliminally setting up for the stark contrast between our convention and the circus.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 29, 2012, 08:44:22 AM
Heard this morning--last night was the first time Ann Romney used a teleprompter.
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: John Florida on August 29, 2012, 10:55:33 AM
Juan Williams' take on Ann Romney's speech:  She's a very rich woman.  Not connectible to the average woman's life.

You sonofabitch you.  She's had cancer and has MS.  Where does "rich" fix that? 

 Why doesn't he talk about that fat ass that's been on vacation since she stepped into the W.H. spending millions on us. Ya the first wookie connects with the poor in skin color only. Effing bitch.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Sectionhand on August 29, 2012, 11:11:34 AM
Word is floating around that the "Mystery Speaker" for Thurs. night will be Clint Eastwood ... seriously . That wouldn't be terribly surprising . Some on this site may remember Duke Wayne addressing the RNC in 1968 .
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: John Florida on August 29, 2012, 11:22:31 AM
Word is floating around that the "Mystery Speaker" for Thurs. night will be Clint Eastwood ... seriously . That wouldn't be terribly surprising . Some on this site may remember Duke Wayne addressing the RNC in 1968 .

   I would love to see that!! ::newyear::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 11:47:30 AM
I'd like to see some fire-breathers...but, McCain...McConnell?   ::puke::

Looking forward to Ryan.

And tomorrow night, wtf invited Jeb Bush?   ::facepalm::

http://www.gopconvention2012.com/media-portal/ (http://www.gopconvention2012.com/media-portal/)
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 29, 2012, 12:10:57 PM
Word is floating around that the "Mystery Speaker" for Thurs. night will be Clint Eastwood ... seriously . That wouldn't be terribly surprising . Some on this site may remember Duke Wayne addressing the RNC in 1968 .



I'd love to see it. Our own Hollywood elite. Lol.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 06:21:24 PM
Convention just started.

Interesting choice for the invocation: A sikh complete with turban.

Then a Ron Paul love fest video.

Right now Mitch McConnell is electrifying the crowd with his slow and deliberative oratory non-skills. He is, however, spending some time slamming O'Bongo by name. Thankfully it didn't last long.

Now a musical number by Jack Blades (bass guitar player and vocalist for Night Ranger and Damn Yankees) singing something called "Back In The Game." Someone is definitely trying to make the point that Republicans rock.

* Oh, cool. This is my 4000th post. Yippee. *

Rand Paul just took the stage. (7:30 ET) Starts out attacking O'BongoCare. Declares it unconstitutional in no uncertain terms. Crowd goes wild.
Now goes after, "You didn't build that." Pure conservative red meat going on here. This is definitely Kentucky's better senator when it comes to public speaking.

BTW...Romney went to Indiana today to speak at the American Legion conference. O'Bongo was busy fundraising and phoned it in with a video. This goes well with the news that O'Bongo sent machine signed form letters (http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/good-god-parents-of-fallen-seal-members-got-form-letters-from-obama-not-even-personally-signed-by-him/) to the families of fallen SEALs...mrs. trapeze said that it made her sick to her stomach.

Rand Paul is indicting O'Bongo over the debt big time. Lots of overtures to the Tea Party via love for the Constitution. Now paying homage to Reagan.

Now (7:45ET) there is a GHW Bush & GW Bush video presentation. GHW Bush imitates Dana Carvey imitating him...hilarious. Laura Bush is still the classiest first lady in the last I don't know how many years.

Now (7:50ET) Beau Davidson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Davidson) ("Blessed") with lots of military pictures in the background...patriotic moment. Interesting look...long blond hair and navy business suit.

Now (7:55ET) Jeanine McDonnell speaks. She is the daughter of Virginia governor Bob McDonnell. Ex Military...Army platoon leader. She introduces Chris Devlin-Young...wounded in action...paralyzed. A para-Olympian in alpine skiing. Inspirational. And then ruins it by introducing Senator McSlug.

So (8:00ET) McSlug takes the stage. Perhaps he will be offering advice on how to win..."Don't do what I did."
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 07:13:16 PM
Damn, I just can't figure out why we didn't elect McSlug. This is about the most boring speech ever. Sure am glad it isn't during prime time.

Delegates are looking at their watches. Surfing the web on their smartphones. Some are hitting the exits for the snack bars.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Now (8:14ET) a video of Romney giving a speech in Israel.

House band does a jazz thingy.

*yawn*
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 07:17:37 PM
Ryan's supposed to speak at 10:30.  I'd like to catch that, but I'm putting on CSPAN tonight, not Fox News.  Meghan Kelly and Brit Hume (of all people) blabbed right through the National Anthem last night, so it's one more reason Fox can KMA.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 07:18:42 PM
Yeah, cspan is the way to go. Miss nothing. Wall to wall convention.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:05:58 PM
Okay, I'm back...

Sen. Rob Portman is speaking.

Pretty good red meat speech.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:13:17 PM
Now Steve Cohen...small business owner from Ohio. Yet another reference to "we did build it."

Talking about rules and regulations strangling business. Talking about the war on coal.

Should be mentioning O'Bongo's role in these problems. Isn't. Talking up Romney...all well and good...but not complaining about O'Bongo's role in this mess.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:16:54 PM
Lots of Puerto Ricans in this convention. Last night their first lady. Tonight their governor.

Young, good looking, articulate. So far, so good.

Let's see if he slams O'Bongo.

Bitching about federal spending and debt...but not mentioning O'Bongo.

Talking up Romney/Ryan. Fine...but why not slam O'Bongo?

Hey...here's a fun question: If Puerto Rico voted to become a state and was then granted statehood, would this guy be eligible to be president of the USA?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:26:47 PM
And now another musical interlude...this time it is a contemporary Christian group called The Katinas.

There may be almost no mainstream entertainers here but the talent that they have is pretty good.

This is followed by another Romney video...lots of flags and patriotic stuff.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:29:52 PM
Tim Pawlenty takes the stage at 9:30ET Will there be any O'Bongo bashing?

Looks like it. He's listing stuff off but will he explain why all this stuff is so bad? Starts off with some Biden jokes. Then follows with some O'Bongo jokes. All fine and well but he really needs to get nasty about O'Bongo.

And still the O'Bongo jokes keep coming. He needs to EXPLAIN why O'Bongo is so bad. Why bother mentioning the failed policies if you don't explain them? Tell the USA why he has failed us.

And now he is talking up Romney. Sorry...not enough O'Bongo bashing.

What an incredibly uninspiring speech. Ugh.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:39:23 PM
Oh, NO! Huckaboob. Let the good times roll. There won't be any O'Bongo bashing here. He does a throwaway joke about Debbie Wasserman Schultz. BFD.

Huckaboob hates Romney. Claims that O'Bongo has made him a big Romney fan. Yeah, sure.

Well, I will say this for the Huckster...he gives a better speech than Pawlenty but that isn't exactly high praise given how crappy Tpaw did.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 08:43:40 PM
T-Paw did OK, it was short, which works to his advantage.

Welcome to Barack Obama's retirement party, I like that.

Huckster is on now.  Not what one would call a dynamic speaker, hope I stay awake...
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
Tpaw was a yawner. It's pretty bad when you get outdone by Huckaboob.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:46:49 PM
Huckaboob just talked up the Bill of Rights and totally ignored the 2nd Amendment. Typical Huckaboob.

Well, he sure walked a very wobbly tightrope in explaining how he supports a mormon.

Who thought that Huckaboob giving a speech was a good idea?

This is the "we can do better" speech, I guess. It would help if he did a lot more O'Bongo bashing.

And he's gone. Whew.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 08:54:59 PM
His voice and delivery anesthetize me...thank God that is over.

Where's the star-power?

Is that it playing on stage now?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:55:42 PM
Condi Rice is on now. Think she will bash O'Bongo? I'll be stunned if she does.

Starts off with a 9/11 reminiscence. Transitions into the 2008 financial mess.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 08:56:36 PM
It won't be direct or throat-grabbing attacks on Obongo, you know that.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:57:57 PM
Did she vote for O'Bongo?

A foreign policy speech in an election year when NO ONE cares about foreign policy. Sheer genius.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 08:58:30 PM
Heh, no clear answer on that, so you have to wonder.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 08:59:39 PM
So she give a speech on a topic that no one cares about and doesn't bash the idiot president.

Who thought that this was a good idea?

They turned off the annoying moving smoke background for her.

I'll give her this: She sure knows how to take all of the excitement out of the convention. Seriously, no one cares about anything but the economy this year. Nobody.

I mean, maybe she could make a case for talking about the Iranian threat but that's it.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:02:43 PM
Yeah, no mention of the brave soldiers who are honored by the POSOTUS with form letters to the family, can't even put that quip in.

This is going to be a standard low-key boilerplate foreign policy lecture.

At least I didn't have to pay tuition to hear this.

ETA - Highlight the failure of Duh Wun's Arab Spring with more radicalized regimes, Iran would be good, asking wtf the US security interest in African tribal genocide is, but yeah, move on to juicier meat already.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:04:47 PM
If she doesn't mention a single O'Bongo failing (by mentioning him by name) then I DO NOT understand what she is doing there. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Who cares about this crap if you can't use it to trash O'Bongo?

This speech is a total waste of time. This is a person who truly is afraid of what the NYTs will say about her and because of that she will not say one single bad thing about President Zero.

She isn't even going out of her way to praise or promote Romney/Ryan. This is so frickin' stupid it is almost beyond belief.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:07:06 PM
She's a left of center moderate, not gonna happen, no courage, wants to be everybody's friend...

 ::facepalm::

(Powell in drag if you will)
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:09:00 PM
Compassion?   ::bashing::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:09:11 PM
Again...why is she there? It's a joke.

Any second now she is going to advocate for amnesty.

Oh great...she is talking up how important education is. That's a state issue. That topic is a Democrat theme. A conservative would be talking about returning control of education to the state and getting the federal government out of the picture. She is not. This is pure RINO territory.

Still, not word one about how horrid O'Bongo is.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:13:08 PM
Left of center moderate, said I.

This appearance was unnecessary, could have mailed that in a flier and used primetime for something better.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
Worst speech of the convention so far, bar none.

If she had to be at the convention, if she had to give a speech (like this) it should have been to introduce McSlug.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:15:50 PM
Now the New Mexico guv. Starts out with an appeal for the hurricane victims.

This is another foil against the Democrat war on women theme.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:16:46 PM
Maybe Martinez will offer a palate cleanser...

...or a feel-good narrative...

...still better than Rice...

...perhaps she'll put a zinger or two on Obongo...
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:17:36 PM
I'm not betting on her going after O'Bongo, either. I will be pleasantly surprised if she does.

Small mention about the "you didn't build it" theme without pinning it on O'Bongo.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 29, 2012, 09:21:29 PM
Holy crap guys....you're being a little hard on her....remember, she was the ex sec of state.....she is speaking on what she knows.... And the people connected.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
Martinez just said that this election should not be about political parties.

WTF?

FINALLY she mentions O'Bongo.

FINALLY she says that he is responsible for the debt. I am happy to be wrong.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:23:50 PM
Holy crap guys....you're being a little hard on her....remember, she was the ex sec of state.....she is speaking on what she knows.... And the people connected.

Pardon, but what she knows isn't exactly relevant in terms of connecting with what people are concerned about -- the economy.

~~~~

Levin was fit to be tied about these be nice/feel good speeches because nobody has taken a direct swing at Obongo and I agree with him.  What the hell?!
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
The "we're Republican's" enlightenment was good.

See, now one more Obama slam and i win...crap...no i don't.

Oh well, kicked Rice's butt though! 
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:25:45 PM
If Martinez could deliver NM to Romney...that would be impressive. I'm not holding my breath, though.

This is the lead in for Ryan. I hope that he has the courage to indict O'Bongo.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:27:51 PM
Okay.  Here we go.  Let's see if Ryan got the "be nice" finger-shake as well.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:28:03 PM
Ryan should be good.  Traditionally Veep's are charged with providing the clear contrast between the two factions, cannot do that without indicting the Obama Regime.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:30:15 PM
Super short Ryan video intro...
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:34:34 PM
I'm time delayed now...mrs. trapeze made me pause it while she got into the room so I can't do this live.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:36:37 PM
Ryan is personalizing the economic disaster that is Obamanomics.  Now going into crony captalism of Solyndra et al.  Spending, debt and unemployment, ObamaCare.  He is building a good indictment across the board.
 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:37:31 PM
Oooooooo ....

He said "Obamacare"; "taxes, fees and fines that have no place in a free country".

He just might do.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:37:55 PM
Crowd is getting their blood up now.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:38:26 PM
Repeal ObamaCare, indeed.  Hope we have a Senate to do it.

Otherwise, more unemployment is coming, I know too many small business people who will cut staffing to make do or just get out.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:39:37 PM
The greatest hit to Medicare is Obamacare and we're going to stop it.

They. better.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:41:20 PM
Whaaaat?!  Medicare for my kids and yours?

NO!
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:42:42 PM
Strategery Pan, that is the Romney effect taking hold.

(Plus I think there may be a reference to grandfathering in there too, I hope that's all it is...)

Things better change, or 2013 will feel a lot like 1861.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:43:20 PM
*sigh*
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 29, 2012, 09:43:56 PM
Ryan smacking obongo around now
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:44:41 PM
MORE!
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:44:52 PM
Note the Code Pink creep who got in.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:45:56 PM
$10T debt "unpatriotic" per OBama...how's $15T feel?  Or is it $16T now, that debt clock is spinning faster than Pan's PC fan!
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:46:41 PM
Note the Code Pink creep who got in.

Go away hippie!  ;D
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:47:23 PM
Who was that older blonde lady clapping?  Was that Jan Brewer?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 09:48:20 PM
Who was that older blonde lady clapping?  Was that Jan Brewer?

Ryan's mom.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:48:27 PM
Oh.  No.  It's Ryan's mother.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:49:16 PM
Oh.  But Brewer should have been given a speaking gig.   ::facepalm::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 29, 2012, 09:49:36 PM
As opposed to obamas roll model.......
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:50:26 PM
Good for him.  "Yes, you DID BUILD THAT!"
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:53:37 PM
Whoa.  Y'all get that proboards slowdown?

Seems back now.

Must have been SkyNet.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 29, 2012, 09:54:30 PM
Lol...staring at faded posters...lololol
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:54:30 PM
Yep, caught that too.  I thought it was me.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:55:21 PM
"A country where everything is free but us?!"

Man.  Hit 'em, Paul.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
Freedom vs Central Planners!  Amen!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 09:57:30 PM
AC/DC - Zep, nice.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:57:38 PM
"My playlist starts with ACDC and ends with Zeppelin".

He's busting on Mitt a bit now and it's a good thing.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 09:58:28 PM
AC/DC - Zep, nice.

ACDC, heh.  Can ya imagine.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 10:00:51 PM
AC/DC - Zep, nice.

ACDC, heh.  Can ya imagine.

I could hang out with Paul, I think we would get along fine.   ::thumbsup::

Nice little message there too, generational differences but working off the same page for what needs to be done.

What does Plugs have in common with Obongo?  Insanity?   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 10:03:04 PM
Clearest possible choice, reapply Founding principles, please Lord, let it be so.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 10:03:56 PM
Amen.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 29, 2012, 10:04:18 PM
Good job. Grand slam.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 10:05:18 PM
Good job by Paul, I think he took a balanced approach, his attacks on the Obama Regime were not strident, they were logical and reasoned, a far cry from the hysterics we'll see out of the Dem's.

I wouldn't give two hoots in hell for a ticket to the Dem's nuthouse.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 10:06:28 PM
Prayer now. 

Think the Dems will pray to the Great Abortion Goddess?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 10:07:53 PM
Prayer now. 

Think the Dems will pray to the Great Abortion Goddess?

I thought they already caved to the Mohammadans.  Or was that to start.  Whatever.  You will be right at some point, probably many times over.
 ::)
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 29, 2012, 10:08:31 PM
Not only did Paul get his point across, but he bridged any generation gaps.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 10:08:51 PM
I don't like this guy's prayer.  I don't ask what he asks "in His name".
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 10:09:49 PM
Convention adjourned.  Priebus sounds hoarse.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 29, 2012, 10:10:39 PM
Paul Ryan is making obongos ads against him.....work against him. Makes obango sound more petty than he already is.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2012, 10:13:27 PM
Ryan did well.  I almost feel sorry for poor Plugs, almost, he has an ass-handing of epic proportions coming his way.

Well, tomorrow night the Big Kahuna gets the big lights.  He has to rise to the occasion, his appearance will get 1000x's the scrutiny.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 10:15:09 PM
Okay...that should have been the model for the speeches that came before rather than the exception that stands out.

It was outstanding.

Not quite as much O'Bongo bashing as I would have liked but it was pretty good all the same. Very fiery toward the end.

I'll bet that Biden thinks he can do better. I'll bet that Biden thinks he can beat Ryan in the debate.

I'll bet that O'Bongo is glad he doesn't have to face Ryan in a debate.

Well done, Mr. Ryan...well done.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 29, 2012, 10:30:37 PM
Ryan did well.  I almost feel sorry for poor Plugs, almost, he has an ass-handing of epic proportions coming his way.

Well, tomorrow night the Big Kahuna gets the big lights.  He has to rise to the occasion, his appearance will get 1000x's the scrutiny.

Can you imagine his handlers trying to prep slo-jo for the inevitable drubbing he's gonna get?

"Please Joe, can you try not to be an imbecile?!"
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 10:33:07 PM
I can imagine his handlers needing their own plugs after pulling their hair out at the idea of trying to ready Mr. Stand Up Chuck for a debate with Ryan.

I don't believe a Biden-Ryan debate will happen.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Glock32 on August 29, 2012, 11:49:52 PM
Democrat sour grapes continue: DNC outlook "grim," Charlotte a "second-tier host city," article says (http://www.wbtv.com/story/19397208/dnc-outlook-grim-charlotte-a-second-tier-host-city-article-says)

They picked us in a cynical political calculation, and now it's as though they just realized NC is actually a rather conservative state. So, naturally, the problem is that we're just a bunch of hayseeds, cultural philistines, and of course homophobic bigots.

Personally, I take delight in the fact that my state and city are proving to be such a poor choice for these degenerate scumbags.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 29, 2012, 11:59:25 PM
Democrat sour grapes continue: DNC outlook "grim," Charlotte a "second-tier host city," article says (http://www.wbtv.com/story/19397208/dnc-outlook-grim-charlotte-a-second-tier-host-city-article-says)

They picked us in a cynical political calculation, and now it's as though they just realized NC is actually a rather conservative state. So, naturally, the problem is that we're just a bunch of hayseeds, cultural philistines, and of course homophobic bigots.

Personally, I take delight in the fact that my state and city are proving to be such a poor choice for these degenerate scumbags.

Oh, ditTOE!!

I'm trying to figure which I am ..... cultural philistine seems to fit the best.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 02:56:10 AM
Word cloud from Ryan speech:

(http://assets.nationaljournal.com/ryan.jpg)

LINK (http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-election/the-rnc-speeches-word-cloud-digest-edition-20120829?mrefid=earthbox)
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Sectionhand on August 30, 2012, 04:12:37 AM
Ryan's supposed to speak at 10:30.  I'd like to catch that, but I'm putting on CSPAN tonight, not Fox News.  Meghan Kelly and Brit Hume (of all people) blabbed right through the National Anthem last night, so it's one more reason Fox can KMA.

Channel surfing during Paul's speech , I stopped on MSNBC . They had the sound turned down ... you could see Paul's lips moving but all you heard was Matthews and Madcow yammering about what a$$holes Republicans are . From the very start , MSNBC's  "coverage" of the RNC has been nothing short of disgraceful but I suppose that's to be expected .
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 06:34:57 AM
Ryan did well.  I almost feel sorry for poor Plugs, almost, he has an ass-handing of epic proportions coming his way.

Well, tomorrow night the Big Kahuna gets the big lights.  He has to rise to the occasion, his appearance will get 1000x's the scrutiny.

Can you imagine his handlers trying to prep slo-jo for the inevitable drubbing he's gonna get?

"Please Joe, can you try not to be an imbecile?!"

It'll be "stick to the script Joe, no matter what the question is"...it is going to be pathetic.  And they have to trot him out there for one, if he's a no show that is the political equivalent of wetting yourself and fleeing the field of battle, completely unrecoverable.

Well, Stymie has a few more days to find a replacement...otherwise he is stuck with the imbecile.

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 06:44:38 AM
Democrat sour grapes continue: DNC outlook "grim," Charlotte a "second-tier host city," article says (http://www.wbtv.com/story/19397208/dnc-outlook-grim-charlotte-a-second-tier-host-city-article-says)

They picked us in a cynical political calculation, and now it's as though they just realized NC is actually a rather conservative state. So, naturally, the problem is that we're just a bunch of hayseeds, cultural philistines, and of course homophobic bigots.

Personally, I take delight in the fact that my state and city are proving to be such a poor choice for these degenerate scumbags.

Oh, ditTOE!!

I'm trying to figure which I am ..... cultural philistine seems to fit the best.

You don't like the term "saltine" offered by that arse-kissing ObamaBot who goes by the name "T"?  Wow, racists calling others racist names, that never gets old, eh?   ::)

Yeah, I'd like to see the Demonrats piss and moan about Charlotte some more, but that is a too easy prediction to make...each time they slam another piece of America it is just more voters fleeing the SS Obummer.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 06:47:20 AM
Ryan's supposed to speak at 10:30.  I'd like to catch that, but I'm putting on CSPAN tonight, not Fox News.  Meghan Kelly and Brit Hume (of all people) blabbed right through the National Anthem last night, so it's one more reason Fox can KMA.

Channel surfing during Paul's speech , I stopped on MSNBC . They had the sound turned down ... you could see Paul's lips moving but all you heard was Matthews and Madcow yammering about what a$$holes Republicans are . From the very start , MSNBC's  "coverage" of the RNC has been nothing short of disgraceful but I suppose that's to be expected .

MSNBC might as well put the camera on a turd and cue up some elevator music, nobody is watching or listening anyway...and the flies could use the change of scenery, they must get tired of flying in and out of Cwissy & Madcow's gaping yaps...
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 07:01:25 AM
8-29-12 Ryan Speech:

Hello, everybody.  Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you
very much.
   Hey, Wisconsin.  Thank you.  Thank you.
   Thanks so much.  Thank you.
   Mr. Chairman, delegates, and fellows citizens, I am honored
by the support of this convention for vice president of the
United States.
   (APPLAUSE)
   I accept the duty to help lead our nation out of a jobs
crisis and back to prosperity.  And I know we can do this.
   (APPLAUSE)
   I accept the calling of my generation to give our children
the America that was given to us with opportunity for the young
and security for the old.  And I know that we are ready.  Our
nominee is sure ready.
   His whole life prepared him for this moment.  To meet
serious challenges in a serious way.  Without excuses.  After
four years of getting the runaround, America needs a turnaround
and the man for the job as Governor Mitt Romney.
   (APPLAUSE)
   I'm the newcomer to this campaign.  So let me share a first
impression.  I have never seen opponents so silent about their
record, and so desperate to keep their power.  They have run out
of ideas. Their moment came and went.  Fear and division is all
they've got left.  With all of their attack ads the president is
just throwing away money.

And he is pretty experienced at that.
   (APPLAUSE)
   You see, some people can't be dragged down by the usual
cheap tactics.  Because their character, ability, and plain
decency are so obvious.  These and deployment, that is Mitt
Romney.
   (APPLAUSE)
   For my part, your nomination is an unexpected turn.  It
certainly came as news to my family.
   (LAUGHTER)
   And I'd like you to meet them.  My best friend and wife
Janna, my daughter Liza and our boys Charlie and Sam.
   (APPLAUSE)
   The kids are happy to see their grandma who lives in
Florida. There she is, my mom, Betty.
   (APPLAUSE)
   My dad, a small town lawyer, was also named Paul.  Until we
lost him when I was 16, he was a gentle presence in my life.
I'd like to think he'd be proud of me and my sister and
brothers.
   (APPLAUSE)
   You know what?
   (APPLAUSE)
   I'm sure proud of him and where I come from, Janesville,
Wisconsin.
   (APPLAUSE)
   I live on the same block where I grew up.  We belong to the
same parish where I was baptized.  Janesville is that kind of
place.  The people of Wisconsin have been good to me.  I've
tried to live up to their trust.  And now, I ask those
hardworking men and women and millions like them across America
to join our cause and get this country working again.
   (APPLAUSE)
   When Governor Romney asked me to join the ticket, I said
let's get this done.  And that is exactly what we are going to
do.
   (APPLAUSE)
   President Barack Obama, came to office during an economic
crisis, as he has reminded us a time or two.  Those are very
tough days.  And any fair measure of his record has to take that
into account.  My own state voted for President Obama.  When he
talked about change, many people liked the sound of it.
Especially in Janesville where we were about to lose a major
factory.  A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at
that G.M. plant.  Right there at that plant, candidate Obama
said, ``I believe that if our government is there to support you,
this plant will be here for another 100 years.''
   That's what he said in 2008.  Well, as it turned out, that
plant didn't last another year.  It is locked up and empty to
this day.  And that's how it is in so many towns where the
recovery that was promised is no where in sight.  Right now, 23
million men and women are struggling to find work.  23 million
people unemployed or underemployed.  Nearly one in six Americans
is in poverty.   Millions of young Americans have graduated from
college during the Obama presidency, ready to use their gifts
and get moving in life.
   Half of them can't find the work they studied for, or any
work at all.  So here's the question, without a change in
leadership, why would the next four years be any different from
the last four years?
   (APPLAUSE)
   The first troubling sign came with the stimulus.  President
Obama's first and best shot at fixing the economy.  At a time
when he got everything he wanted under one party rule. It cost
$831 billion. The largest one-time expenditure ever by our
federal government.

It went to companies like Solyndra, with their
gold-plated connections, subsidized jobs and make believe
markets.
   The stimulus was a case of political patronage, corporate
welfare anachronism at their worst.
   (APPLAUSE)
   You -- you the American people of this country were cut out
of the deal.  What did taxpayers get out of the Obama stimulus?
More debt.  That money wasn't just spent and wasted, it was
borrowed, spent and wasted.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Maybe the greatest waste of all, was time.  Here we were
faced with a massive job crisis so deep that if everyone out of
work stood in single file, that unemployment line would stretch
the length of the entire American continent.
   You would think that any president, whatever his party,
would make job creation and nothing else his first order of
economic business, but this president didn't do that.  Instead,
we got a long, divisive, all or nothing attempt to put the
federal government in charge of health care.
   (CROWD BOOS)
   Obama Care comes to more than 2,000 pages of rules,
mandates, taxes, fees and fines that have no place in a free
country.
   (APPLAUSE)
   That's right.  That's right.
   You know what?  The president has declared that the debate
over government controlled health care is over.  That will come
as news to the millions of American who will elect Mitt Romney
so we can repeal Obama Care.
   (APPLAUSE)
   And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obama Care
came at the expense of the elderly.  You see, even with all the
hidden taxes to pay for the health care takeover, even with the
new law and new taxes on nearly a million small businesses, the
planners in Washington still didn't have enough money; they
needed more.  They needed hundreds of billions more.  So they
just took it all away from Medicare, $716 billion funneled out
of Medicare by President Obama.
   (CROWD BOOS)
   An obligation we have to our parents and grandparents is
being sacrificed, all to pay for a new entitlement we didn't
even ask for.
   (APPLAUSE)
   The greatest threat to Medicare is Obama Care and we're
going to stop it.
   (APPLAUSE)
   In Congress, when they take out the heavy books and the
wall charts about Medicare, my thoughts go back to a house on
Garfield Street in Janesville.  My wonderful grandma, Janet, had
Alzheimer's and she moved in with mom and me.  Though she felt
lost at times, we did all the little things that made her feel
loved.  We had help from Medicare and it was there, just like
it's there for my mom today. Medicare is a promise and we will
honor it.  A Romney-Ryan Administration with protect and
strengthen Medicare for my mom's generation, for my generation
and for my kids and yours.
   (APPLAUSE)
   So our opponents can consider themselves on notice.  In
this election, on this issue , the usual posturing on the Left
isn't going to work.  Mitt Romney and I know the difference
between protecting a program and raiding it.  Ladies and
gentlemen, our nation needs this debate, we want this debate, we
will win in this debate.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Obamacare, as much as anything else, explains why a
presidency that began with such anticipation now comes to such a
disappointing close.  It began with a financial crisis.  It ends
with a job crisis. It began with a housing crisis they alone
didn't cause.  It ends with a housing crisis they didn't
correct.
   (APPLAUSE)
   It began with a perfect AAA credit rating for the United
States. It ends with the downgraded America .  It all started
off with stirring speeches, Greek columns, the thrill of
something new.  Now all that's left is a presidency adrift,
surviving on slogans that already seem tired., grasping at the
moment that has already passed, like a ship trying to sail on
yesterday's wind.
   (APPLAUSE)
   You know, President Obama was asked not long ago to reflect
on any mistakes he might have made.  He said, ``Well, I haven't
communicated enough.''
   (LAUGHTER)
   He said his job is to, quote, ``tell a story to the American
people''. As if that is the whole problem here?  He needs to talk
more and we need to be better listeners?
   (LAUGHTER)
   Ladies and gentlemen, these past four years, we have
suffered no shortage of words in the White House.
   (APPLAUSE)
   What is missing is leadership in the White House.
   (APPLAUSE)
   And the story that Barack Obama does tell, forever shifting
blame to the last administration, is getting old.  The man
assumed office almost four years ago.  Isn't it about time he
assumed responsibility?
   (APPLAUSE)
   In this generation, a defining responsibility of government
is to steer our nation clear of a debt crisis while there is
still time. Back in 2008, candidate Obama called a $10 trillion
national debt unpatriotic.  Serious talk from what looked like a
serious reformer. By his own decisions, President Obama has
added more debt than any other president before him.
   And more than all the troubled governments of Europe
combined. One president, one term, $5 trillion in new debt.
   He created a new bipartisan debt commission. They came back
with an urgent report.  He thanks them, sent them on their way,
and then did exactly nothing.
   AUDIENCE:  Boo.
   RYAN:  Republicans stepped up with good-faith reforms and
solutions equal to the problems.  How did the president respond?
By doing nothing -- nothing except to dodge and demagogue the
issue.
   So here we are, $16 trillion in debt and still he does
nothing. In Europe, massive debts have put entire governments at
risk of collapse, and still he does nothing. And all we have
heard from this president and his team are attacks on anyone who
dares to point out the obvious.
   They have no answer to this simple reality: We need to stop
spending money we don't have.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Very simple.  Not that hard.
   My Dad used to say to me: ``Son.  You have a choice:  You
can be part of the problem, or you can be part of the solution.''
The present administration has made its choices.  And Mitt
Romney and I have made ours:  Before the math and the momentum
overwhelm us all, we are going to solve this nation's economic
problems.
   (APPLAUSE)
   And I'm going to level with you: We don't have that much
time. But if we are serious, and smart, and we lead, we can do
this.
   After four years of government trying to divide up the
wealth, we will get America creating wealth again.
   (APPLAUSE)
   With tax fairness and regulatory reform, we'll put
government back on the side of the men and women who create
jobs, and the men and women who need jobs.
   My Mom started a small business, and I've seen what it
takes. Mom was 50 when my Dad died.  She got on a bus every
weekday for years, and rode 40 miles each morning to Madison.
She earned a new degree and learned new skills to start her
small business.  It wasn't just a new livelihood.  It was a new
life.  And it transformed my Mom from a widow in grief to a
small businesswoman whose happiness wasn't just in the past.
Her work gave her hope.  It made our family proud.
   And to this day, my Mom is my role model.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Behind every small business, there's a story worth knowing.
All the corner shops in our towns and cities, the restaurants,
cleaners, gyms, hair salons, hardware stores, these didn't come
out of nowhere. A lot of heart goes into each one.
   And if small business people say they made it on their own,
all they are saying is that nobody else worked seven days a week
in their place.  Nobody showed up in their place to open the
door at five in the morning.  Nobody did their thinking, and
worrying, and sweating for them.
   After all that work, and in a bad economy, it sure doesn't
help to hear from their president that government gets the
credit.  What they deserve to hear is the truth: Yes, you did
build that.
   (APPLAUSE)
   We have a plan for a stronger middle class, with the goal
of generating 12 million new jobs over the next four years.
   (APPLAUSE)
   In a clean break -- in a clean break from the Obama years,
and frankly from the years before this president, we will keep
federal spending at 20 percent of GDP, or less.  Because that is
enough.
   (APPLAUSE)
   The choice -- the choice is whether to put hard limits on
economic growth, or hard limits on the size of government, and
we choose to limit government.
   (APPLAUSE)
   I learned a good deal about economics, and about America,
from the author of the Reagan tax reforms, the great Jack Kemp.
   (APPLAUSE)
   What gave Jack that incredible enthusiasm was his belief in
the possibilities of free people, in the power of free
enterprise and strong communities to overcome poverty and
despair.   We need that same optimism right now.
   And in our dealings with other nations, a Romney-Ryan
administration will speak with confidence and clarity.  Whenever
men and women rise up for their own freedom, they will know that
the American president is on their side.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Instead -- instead of managing American decline, leaving
allies to doubt us and adversaries to test us, we will act in
the conviction that the United States is still the greatest
force for peace and liberty that this world has ever known.
   (APPLAUSE)
   President Obama is the kind of politician who puts promises
on the record, and then calls that the record.
   (LAUGHTER)
   But we are four years into this presidency. The issue is
not the economy that Barack Obama inherited, not the economy as
he envisions, but this economy that we are living.
   College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in
their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and
wondering when they can move out and get going with life.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Everyone -- everyone who feels stuck in the Obama economy
is right to focus on the here and now.  And I hope you
understand this too, if you're feeling left out or passed by:
You have not failed, your leaders have failed you.
   (APPLAUSE)
   None of us -- none of us have to settle for the best this
administration offers, a dull, adventureless journey from one
entitlement to the next, a government-planned life, a country
where everything is free but us.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Listen to the way we're already spoken to -- listen to the
way we are spoken to already, as if everyone is stuck in some
class or station in life, victims of circumstances beyond our
control, with government there to help us cope with our fate.

It's the exact opposite of everything I learned
growing up in Wisconsin, or at college in Ohio.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Now when I was waiting tables, washing dishes, or mowing
lawns for money, I never thought of myself as stuck in some
station in life. I was on my own path, my own journey, an
American journey, where I could think for myself, decide for
myself, define happen as for myself.  That is what we do in this
country.  That is the American dream.
   (APPLAUSE)
   That's freedom and I will take it any day over the
supervision and sanctimony of the central planners.
   (APPLAUSE)
   The failures of one administration are not a mandate for a
new administration.  A challenger must stand on his own merits.
He must be ready and worthy to serve in the office of president.
   We are a full generation apart, Governor Romney and I.  And
in some ways, we are different.  There are the songs in his
Ipod, which I have heard on the campaign bus...
   (LAUGHTER)
   ... and I have heard it on many hotel elevators.
   (LAUGHTER)
   He actually urged me to play some of these songs at
campaign rallies.  I said, ``look, I hope it is not a deal
breaker Mitt, but my playlist starts with AC/DC and it ends with
Zeppelin.
   (APPLAUSE)
   A generation apart -- a generation apart, but that does not
matter.  It makes us different but not in any of the things that
matter.  Mitt Romney and I both grew up in the Heartlands, and
we know what places like Wisconsin and Michigan look like when
times are good.
   (APPLAUSE)
   We know what these communities look like when times are
good, when people are working, when families are doing more than
just getting by, and we know it can be that way again.  We have
had very different careers, mainly in public service, his mostly
in the private sector.  He helped start businesses and turn
around failing ones, and by the way being successful in
business, that's a good thing.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Mitt -- Mitt has not only succeeded, but he has succeeded
where others could not.  He turned around the Olympics at a time
when a great institution was collapsing under the weight of bad
management, overspending and corruption.  Sounds kind of
familiar, doesn't it?
   (APPLAUSE)
   He was the Republican governor of a state where almost nine
in 10 legislators are Democrats and yet he balanced the budget
without raising taxes.  Unemployment went down.  Household
incomes went up, and Massachusetts under Governor Mitt Romney
saw its credit rating upgraded.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Mitt and I also go to different churches, but in any
church, the best kind of preaching is done by example, and I've
been watching that example.
   (APPLAUSE)
   The man who will accept your nomination is prayerful and
faithful and honorable.  Not only a defender of marriage, he
offers an example of marriage at its best.  Not only a fine
businessman, he is a fine man, worthy of leading this optimistic
and good-hearted country.  Our faiths come together in the same
moral creed.  We believe that in every life, there is goodness,
for every person there is hope.  Each one of us was made for a
reason, bearing the image and likeness of the lord of life.
   (APPLAUSE)
   RYAN:  We have responsibilities, one to another.  We do not
each face the world alone.  And the greatest of all
responsibilities, is that of the strong to protect the weak.
The truest measure of any society is how it treats those who
cannot defend or care for themselves.
   (APPLAUSE)
   Each of these great moral ideas is essential to democratic
government, to the rule of law, to life in a humane and decent
society.  They are the moral creed of our country, as powerful
in our time, as on the day of America's founding.  They are
self-evident and unchanging, and sometimes, even presidents need
reminding, that our rights come from nature and God, and not
from government.
   (APPLAUSE)
   The founding generation secured those rights for us, and in
every generation since, the best among us have defended our
freedoms.  They are protecting us right now.  We honor them and
all our veterans, and we thank them.
   (APPLAUSE)
   The right that makes all the difference now, is the right
to choose our own leaders.  And you are entitled to the clearest
possible choice, because the time for choosing is drawing near.
   So here is our pledge.
   We will not duck the tough issues, we will lead.
   We will not spend the next four years blaming others, we
will take responsibility.
   We will not try to replace our founding principles, we will
reapply our founding principles.
   (APPLAUSE)
   The work ahead will be hard.  These times demand the best
of all of us -- all of us, but we can do this -- we can do this
.  Together, we can do this.
   We can get this country working again.  We can get this
economy growing again.  We can make the safety net safe again.
   We can do this.
   Whatever your political party, let's come together for the
sake of our country.  Join Mitt Romney and me.  Let's give this
effort everything we have.  Let's see this through all the way.
Let's get this done.
   Thank you, and God bless.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/29/transcript-paul-ryan-speech-at-rnc/#ixzz251vM7ZPN (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/29/transcript-paul-ryan-speech-at-rnc/#ixzz251vM7ZPN)
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 30, 2012, 07:52:11 AM
Democrat sour grapes continue: DNC outlook "grim," Charlotte a "second-tier host city," article says (http://www.wbtv.com/story/19397208/dnc-outlook-grim-charlotte-a-second-tier-host-city-article-says)

They picked us in a cynical political calculation, and now it's as though they just realized NC is actually a rather conservative state. So, naturally, the problem is that we're just a bunch of hayseeds, cultural philistines, and of course homophobic bigots.

Personally, I take delight in the fact that my state and city are proving to be such a poor choice for these degenerate scumbags.

Dems stepping in it again. When you peer into a dems soul ( still not sure they have one) what you see is a selfish, self centered person, wanting to know what's in it for me. Dont worry, we'll bend the rules so you can get your gay drunk on.

What we will witness this dem convention is not the Greek columns but the Greek tragedy.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: ToddF on August 30, 2012, 08:39:01 AM
College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in
their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and
wondering when they can move out and get going with life.
   (LEG TINGLE)

 ::USA::
Title: Re: Anybody watching the convention?
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 30, 2012, 09:18:54 AM
Juan Williams' take on Ann Romney's speech:  She's a very rich woman.  Not connectible to the average woman's life.

You sonofabitch you.  She's had cancer and has MS.  Where does "rich" fix that? 


Dons take on JUAN Williams...he's a very stupid man.

When you type Juan in all caps, that's racist.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 30, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
I loved Ryan's speech as much as I loved Palin's in 08. But no media stooges will be able to knock Paul Ryan around like they did Palin. They don't have a prayer of destroying him personally.

Let's see them call him a c*nt, or suggest his children are f**king baseball players, or "trick" him into looking like he doesn't know how to read.

Not a chance.

If this guy keeps his nose clean and the Romney administration has some success, he could be president someday.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: AlanS on August 30, 2012, 09:40:20 AM
They picked us in a cynical political calculation, and now it's as though they just realized NC is actually a rather conservative state. So, naturally, the problem is that we're just a bunch of hayseeds, cultural philistines, and of course homophobic bigots.

You forgot to mention it's also a right to work state.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: John Florida on August 30, 2012, 10:13:33 AM
 One of the talking heads on Rush radio  down here suspects that Beck will be the mystery speaker!
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 30, 2012, 10:18:48 AM
I loved Ryan's speech as much as I loved Palin's in 08. But no media stooges will be able to knock Paul Ryan around like they did Palin. They don't have a prayer of destroying him personally.

Let's see them call him a c*nt, or suggest his children are f**king baseball players, or "trick" him into looking like he doesn't know how to read.

Not a chance.

If this guy keeps his nose clean and the Romney administration has some success, he could be president someday.

He was really good last night.  I thought he came across as if he was talking to people as individuals and not telling us what he thought we wanted to hear. I had the impression he didn't say anything he hadn't said before (mostly).  Not like BO who stutters every time to give his brain time enough to formulate a lie.



One of the talking heads on Rush radio  down here suspects that Beck will be the mystery speaker!

why because Beck's Mormon?

I don't think it's Beck.  This convention is crafted to give the undecideds, independents and some dems something to think about in terms of real choices for the future. Having Beck would blow that because it would be about crazy Glenn Beck.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Glock32 on August 30, 2012, 10:21:31 AM
They picked us in a cynical political calculation, and now it's as though they just realized NC is actually a rather conservative state. So, naturally, the problem is that we're just a bunch of hayseeds, cultural philistines, and of course homophobic bigots.

You forgot to mention it's also a right to work state.

Indeed. That really has them pissed off.  As though it was a well-hidden secret until just now.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: benb61 on August 30, 2012, 10:55:49 AM
If I owned the venue the DNC is to be held at, I would tell them the day before that I have cancelled their scheduled event for some much needed renovation.  And be sure the place was filled with non-union contractors "getting to work".  What would they do then?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: John Florida on August 30, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
I loved Ryan's speech as much as I loved Palin's in 08. But no media stooges will be able to knock Paul Ryan around like they did Palin. They don't have a prayer of destroying him personally.

Let's see them call him a c*nt, or suggest his children are f**king baseball players, or "trick" him into looking like he doesn't know how to read.

Not a chance.

If this guy keeps his nose clean and the Romney administration has some success, he could be president someday.

He was really good last night.  I thought he came across as if he was talking to people as individuals and not telling us what he thought we wanted to hear. I had the impression he didn't say anything he hadn't said before (mostly).  Not like BO who stutters every time to give his brain time enough to formulate a lie.



One of the talking heads on Rush radio  down here suspects that Beck will be the mystery speaker!

why because Beck's Mormon?

I don't think it's Beck.  This convention is crafted to give the undecideds, independents and some dems something to think about in terms of real choices for the future. Having Beck would blow that because it would be about crazy Glenn Beck.




  It's pure speculation on his part.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 11:32:22 AM
College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in
their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and
wondering when they can move out and get going with life.
   (LEG TINGLE)

 ::USA::

That is one heck of quote!

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 11:44:19 AM
I loved Ryan's speech as much as I loved Palin's in 08. But no media stooges will be able to knock Paul Ryan around like they did Palin. They don't have a prayer of destroying him personally.

Let's see them call him a c*nt, or suggest his children are f**king baseball players, or "trick" him into looking like he doesn't know how to read.

Not a chance.

If this guy keeps his nose clean and the Romney administration has some success, he could be president someday.

He was really good last night.  I thought he came across as if he was talking to people as individuals and not telling us what he thought we wanted to hear. I had the impression he didn't say anything he hadn't said before (mostly).  Not like BO who stutters every time to give his brain time enough to formulate a lie.



One of the talking heads on Rush radio  down here suspects that Beck will be the mystery speaker!

why because Beck's Mormon?

I don't think it's Beck.  This convention is crafted to give the undecideds, independents and some dems something to think about in terms of real choices for the future. Having Beck would blow that because it would be about crazy Glenn Beck.




  It's pure speculation on his part.

Chatter still says Clint.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/clint-eastwood-to-speak-at-republican-convention-on-thursday-report/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/clint-eastwood-to-speak-at-republican-convention-on-thursday-report/)

But get a load of these comments here!

http://washingtonexaminer.com/will-we-see-a-reagan-hologram-or-not/article/2506390 (http://washingtonexaminer.com/will-we-see-a-reagan-hologram-or-not/article/2506390)

"#RNCmystery speaker will be the Kenyan doctor who delivered Obama."

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 30, 2012, 11:45:40 AM
College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in
their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and
wondering when they can move out and get going with life.
   (LEG TINGLE)

 ::USA::

That is one heck of quote!

My adult daughters living at home thought it was great  (but they don't have Obama posters fading or otherwise...)

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 02:36:20 PM
College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in
their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and
wondering when they can move out and get going with life.
   (LEG TINGLE)

 ::USA::

That is one heck of quote!

My adult daughters living at home thought it was great  (but they don't have Obama posters fading or otherwise...)

 ::thumbsup::

God Bless them!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 08:36:05 PM
Good evening everyone...

Live blogging this as best I can. My son has been home on leave from Afghanistan and he goes back tonight. I would like to spend as much time with him as possible but I suspect he is going to hang out with his friends for the last few hours. So, I am disappointed but I do get to watch a little more of the convention and write about it here instead. Small consolation, I know.

Hoping that this is a thoroughly "kick O'Bongo's ass" night.

I am looking forward to the final two hours.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 08:43:44 PM
Someone was pretty clever getting all of the Olympians on stage to sing Mitt's praises via the 2002 Olympics.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 08:47:20 PM
All of this "praise Mitt" stuff is good and all but I am ready for another dose of O'Bongo bashing.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 08:55:21 PM
I sure am glad that I'm watching this on cspan. I have clicked over to FNC and yes, even msnbc and I just couldn't stand to see the convention that way with commentators talking over darned near everything. I don't care to allow those people to decide what is and isn't important for me to see and hear.

cspan is the closest thing to being there and experiencing all of it.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:02:34 PM
Was Eastwood speaking tonight?  Did he already?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
Clint on stage.

Crowd goes nuts.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:05:54 PM
Woohoo.  I didn't want to miss this.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: benb61 on August 30, 2012, 09:06:12 PM
Was Eastwood speaking tonight?  Did he already?

Right now!!!
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:07:24 PM
Was Eastwood speaking tonight?  Did he already?

Right now!!!


On it!  Thanks.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 09:08:36 PM
This is funny as hell.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 09:13:31 PM
This is the kind of conservative red meat that this convention has been mostly lacking.

He is killing the Democrats and O'Bongo with ridicule.

Out-frickin'-standing.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
"Tell Mitt what?"

"I can't tell him that."

Loved it.

Rubio up.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 09:21:08 PM
Rubio calls O'Bongo out as a bad president.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:21:31 PM
Boy, he is a baby-faced lookin' thing, isn't he.

Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:24:04 PM
"Family is the most important institution ... ".
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:36:13 PM
Who shouted "don't touch me!"?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 30, 2012, 09:38:27 PM
Who shouted "don't touch me!"?

I thought it was  "didn't touch me"
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
I would guess that it was Secret Service.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 09:40:40 PM
So, I'm watching cspan and the sound and picture are out of sync. Is anyone else experiencing this?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:42:06 PM
Gawdsdammit, I'm already pissed off.

We are NOT a nation of immigrants! 

Everytime that is said, it disenfranchises and marginalizes every one of us born here, with parents who were born here.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:42:39 PM
So, I'm watching cspan and the sound and picture are out of sync. Is anyone else experiencing this?

No.  Good here.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:47:16 PM
Did he just say his dad was born in Mexico?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:48:29 PM
Oh good GRIEF!  Mush, mush and more mush!

I'm truly sorry to be watching this right now ......
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:49:36 PM
Ooookay, let's refute "the war on women" onnnneee mooooore tiiiiime.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 30, 2012, 09:51:26 PM
 I think he's doing great.

Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 09:52:01 PM
Okay, I'm done.   ::puke::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: benb61 on August 30, 2012, 09:54:51 PM
Here it comes!
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 09:55:59 PM
Gawdsdammit, I'm already pissed off.

We are NOT a nation of immigrants!  

Everytime that is said, it disenfranchises and marginalizes every one of us born here, with parents who were born here.

My parents were both Canadians so...sorry, that's me. I don't think he means to disenfranchise anyone, though. It is more a means of saying that Republicans have nothing against LEGAL immigrants.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 30, 2012, 09:59:25 PM
It is more a means of saying that Republicans have nothing against LEGAL immigrants.

That's the way I take it.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 30, 2012, 10:01:11 PM
Well, I don't and I'm sick of hearing it.  Millions of us were born here, our parents were born here; we're not immigrants and it's disgusting that the focus is placed on immigrants in place of the native born.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 10:04:53 PM
Okay, change subject...

He is busy listing off the dingus' failings.

Next comes his plan to fix it.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: benb61 on August 30, 2012, 10:05:12 PM
Energy plan,  Check
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 10:07:10 PM
Seems to be doing a pretty good job of unifying the people there at the convention. They are eating it up.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 30, 2012, 10:07:23 PM
ok

social issues now

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 30, 2012, 10:18:06 PM
Okay, so a good speech. Well balanced. A good speech. Not a great (Reagan) speech but good enough.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 30, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
Okay, so a good speech. Well balanced. A good speech. Not a great (Reagan) speech but good enough.

I think so too.  I think he came across as someone to be trusted to get the job done.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 10:24:37 PM
Maybe it was the old beer I was getting rid of since I got home from work...now remember I'm not wasteful so when I mean "getting rid of" I mean guzzle...but I found most of Rubio's speech good, I flinched a time or two (I ain't that far gone...yet) and I could have swore (sworn?) I heard something flubbed at the end about gubmint...I dunno, maybe he got flustered because it was cue Mitt time, but something sounded flipped to me...or its the beer.  But I don't think its just beer, I had the odd feeling during Rubio's speech that this is the last time I'll see and hear something like this.  I don't often get vibes, but when I do they mean something, sometimes I fail the translation, but I dunno, it's like a marker has been passed, a milestone I see in the mirror behind me and nothing but darkness ahead.  We'll just chalk it up to mad ravings, everyone will feel better that way.

Anyway, just me, don't anybody git there skivies in a twist, but now that I am am onto to the better hooch (Amber Boch for the curious) Mitt is almost tolerable.  Now, I realize some folks like an upbeat gosh/golly speech, and maybe Mitt is a bit of a Gomer but a decent chap, and maybe I think waht we need now more than ever is a fire-breathing knuckle-swinging Son-of-Liberty fire-pisser of a candidate...but if  not for the beer I may have dozed off during this speech.  I don’t think he blew anything, I’m just not that sure how much he gained.   Perhaps I am an old fool, perhaps I’m a relic of my time, perhaps I’m a bit loose…but I cannot escape the feeling of being, I dunno, let down?  A bit like we’re whistling past the graveyard?  I dunno.  I don’t want to dampen anybody’s spirits or cause anyone to rethink casting a vote for Mitt.

As Duh Wun says (disingenuously, not like I) “let me be clear” I'll pull the lever for Romney, I think Ryan is an outstanding person and a lot like the last election I think the ticket ought to be flipped, but that ain't happening, so I pull the lever anyway.  Can Mitt rise to the occasion?  Sure.  Can he fall short?  Sure.  Is he better than Obama?  Without question.  Assuming the best case scenario, will it matter?  For a time, for a time.  Can America expect no better than a speed-bump on the road to hell?  Sure.  But I am casting my lot for "a time".  After all, what choice is there?

If there is to be any chance at all of restoring America, Obama has to be defeated, period.

It is the calculus we all know it would be, it is the referendum on the Obama Regime we all expected, it is now upon us.

God be with us.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 30, 2012, 10:28:47 PM
Good speech. He looked solid. Grounded. Trustworthy.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on August 30, 2012, 10:35:34 PM
yeah, he flubbed it bad. Give him credit for what he meant...not what he said. I have made the same mistake. Bad time to make it though. By the time he is out of diapers he might be a great one though!

Maybe it was the old beer I was getting rid of since I got home from work...now remember I'm not wasteful so when I mean "getting rid of" I mean guzzle...but I found most of Rubio's speech good, I flinched a time or two (I ain't that far gone...yet) and I could have swore (sworn?) I heard something flubbed at the end about gubmint...I dunno, maybe he got flustered because it was cue Mitt time, but something sounded flipped to me...or its the beer.  But I don't think its just beer, I had the odd feeling during Rubio's speech that this is the last time I'll see and hear something like this.  I don't often get vibes, but when I do they mean something, sometimes I fail the translation, but I dunno, it's like a marker has been passed, a milestone I see in the mirror behind me and nothing but darkness ahead.  We'll just chalk it up to mad ravings, everyone will feel better that way.

Anyway, just me, don't anybody git there skivies in a twist, but now that I am am onto to the better hooch (Amber Boch for the curious) Mitt is almost tolerable.  Now, I realize some folks like an upbeat gosh/golly speech, and maybe Mitt is a bit of a Gomer but a decent chap, and maybe I think waht we need now more than ever is a fire-breathing knuckle-swinging Son-of-Liberty fire-pisser of a candidate...but if  not for the beer I may have dozed off during this speech.  I don’t think he blew anything, I’m just not that sure how much he gained.   Perhaps I am an old fool, perhaps I’m a relic of my time, perhaps I’m a bit loose…but I cannot escape the feeling of being, I dunno, let down?  A bit like we’re whistling past the graveyard?  I dunno.  I don’t want to dampen anybody’s spirits or cause anyone to rethink casting a vote for Mitt.

As Duh Wun says (disingenuously, not like I) “let me be clear” I'll pull the lever for Romney, I think Ryan is an outstanding person and a lot like the last election I think the ticket ought to be flipped, but that ain't happening, so I pull the lever anyway.  Can Mitt rise to the occasion?  Sure.  Can he fall short?  Sure.  Is he better than Obama?  Without question.  Assuming the best case scenario, will it matter?  For a time, for a time.  Can America expect no better than a speed-bump on the road to hell?  Sure.  But I am casting my lot for "a time".  After all, what choice is there?

If there is to be any chance at all of restoring America, Obama has to be defeated, period.

It is the calculus we all know it would be, it is the referendum on the Obama Regime we all expected, it is now upon us.

God be with us.

Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 10:46:19 PM
yeah, he flubbed it bad. Give him credit for what he meant...not what he said. I have made the same mistake. Bad time to make it though. By the time he is out of diapers he might be a great one though!

Maybe it was the old beer I was getting rid of since I got home from work...now remember I'm not wasteful so when I mean "getting rid of" I mean guzzle...but I found most of Rubio's speech good, I flinched a time or two (I ain't that far gone...yet) and I could have swore (sworn?) I heard something flubbed at the end about gubmint...I dunno, maybe he got flustered because it was cue Mitt time, but something sounded flipped to me...or its the beer.  But I don't think its just beer, I had the odd feeling during Rubio's speech that this is the last time I'll see and hear something like this.  I don't often get vibes, but when I do they mean something, sometimes I fail the translation, but I dunno, it's like a marker has been passed, a milestone I see in the mirror behind me and nothing but darkness ahead.  We'll just chalk it up to mad ravings, everyone will feel better that way.

Anyway, just me, don't anybody git there skivies in a twist, but now that I am am onto to the better hooch (Amber Boch for the curious) Mitt is almost tolerable.  Now, I realize some folks like an upbeat gosh/golly speech, and maybe Mitt is a bit of a Gomer but a decent chap, and maybe I think waht we need now more than ever is a fire-breathing knuckle-swinging Son-of-Liberty fire-pisser of a candidate...but if  not for the beer I may have dozed off during this speech.  I don’t think he blew anything, I’m just not that sure how much he gained.   Perhaps I am an old fool, perhaps I’m a relic of my time, perhaps I’m a bit loose…but I cannot escape the feeling of being, I dunno, let down?  A bit like we’re whistling past the graveyard?  I dunno.  I don’t want to dampen anybody’s spirits or cause anyone to rethink casting a vote for Mitt.

As Duh Wun says (disingenuously, not like I) “let me be clear” I'll pull the lever for Romney, I think Ryan is an outstanding person and a lot like the last election I think the ticket ought to be flipped, but that ain't happening, so I pull the lever anyway.  Can Mitt rise to the occasion?  Sure.  Can he fall short?  Sure.  Is he better than Obama?  Without question.  Assuming the best case scenario, will it matter?  For a time, for a time.  Can America expect no better than a speed-bump on the road to hell?  Sure.  But I am casting my lot for "a time".  After all, what choice is there?

If there is to be any chance at all of restoring America, Obama has to be defeated, period.

It is the calculus we all know it would be, it is the referendum on the Obama Regime we all expected, it is now upon us.

God be with us.


Overall I thought his (Rubio's) speech the best of the night.  I'll put Eastwood aside because he was not invited to inspire but to entertain, and that he did, only Clint could debate an empty chair Obama and make it entertaining.  Mitt was steady and did not make any glaring mistakes that will cost him votes.  I just think Romney's "style/message" was better 20 some years ago, not now, perhaps he over-concentrated on the Reagan optimism theme,  I just don't think people sense much to be optimistic about, I think this time and this moment called for a call to arms.  Again, maybe I am out of my time (I get that feeling a LOT!) but I do not sense the electorate being solely interested in what was and what can be, they want to know what WILL be and what CAN be done.  The America I know and sense wants things turned around 180m degrees, there can be no feel good wat to that end, there is no easy way to anything, it takes a ton of sweat and hard work to get there!  We are not a little behind the ball, we are up against the wall and have to drive the length of the field for God's sake!

OK, ranting over, time to light a stogie and cool down on the porch...

I just hope America gets off its ass, I've about run out the string...
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Glock32 on August 30, 2012, 11:51:58 PM
Well, I don't and I'm sick of hearing it.  Millions of us were born here, our parents were born here; we're not immigrants and it's disgusting that the focus is placed on immigrants in place of the native born.

I know what you mean. This has long been a gripe of mine. I remember in a high school civics textbook seeing some exercise where the students had to write an essay about the difference between being a native born citizen versus an immigrant who "earned" their citizenship. That's a poor paraphrase, the way it was worded clearly implied a "they're more deserving" tone.

I don't expect VIP status or something, but I am tired of recent (past century) immigration waves being touted as the quintessentially American experience, superseding the earlier colonial immigrants. None of my ancestors were recent immigrants. Almost all of them came here in the 1700s, and some in the 1600s. They came to what was literally a wilderness, and the fruits of their toil didn't really mature until generations later -- and they did this quite consciously for the benefit of their own posterity. They established the baseline culture -- British seeds sprouted in American soil -- that would become the very USA that later proved so desirable to future immigrants. So yeah it rubs me the wrong way to be lectured with banalities like "we are a nation of immigrants", as if any one of them is just as important or desirable as the other.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 31, 2012, 07:34:11 AM


I don't expect VIP status or something, but I am tired of recent (past century) immigration waves being touted as the quintessentially American experience, superseding the earlier colonial immigrants. None of my ancestors were recent immigrants. Almost all of them came here in the 1700s, and some in the 1600s. They came to what was literally a wilderness, and the fruits of their toil didn't really mature until generations later --

No, first the government built the roads and then your ancestors arrived. You didn't build that.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2012, 07:42:43 AM
Well, I don't and I'm sick of hearing it.  Millions of us were born here, our parents were born here; we're not immigrants and it's disgusting that the focus is placed on immigrants in place of the native born.

I know what you mean. This has long been a gripe of mine. I remember in a high school civics textbook seeing some exercise where the students had to write an essay about the difference between being a native born citizen versus an immigrant who "earned" their citizenship. That's a poor paraphrase, the way it was worded clearly implied a "they're more deserving" tone.

I don't expect VIP status or something, but I am tired of recent (past century) immigration waves being touted as the quintessentially American experience, superseding the earlier colonial immigrants. None of my ancestors were recent immigrants. Almost all of them came here in the 1700s, and some in the 1600s. They came to what was literally a wilderness, and the fruits of their toil didn't really mature until generations later -- and they did this quite consciously for the benefit of their own posterity. They established the baseline culture -- British seeds sprouted in American soil -- that would become the very USA that later proved so desirable to future immigrants. So yeah it rubs me the wrong way to be lectured with banalities like "we are a nation of immigrants", as if any one of them is just as important or desirable as the other.



Ok.....you guys can squish me if you want......but I believe you're being a little too sensitive in regards to the immigration aspects of his speech. Romney did make statements including grandparents and great grandparents, I guess he could have stated great, great, great, great grandparents. I didn't get the vibe he was leaving anyone out purposefully. Everything, by everyone who gave a speech, seem to send the message we are all inclusive, a nation of Americans. Anyone notice the use of hyphenated American? Yeah, I didn't either. Maybe someone did, but I can't recall it.....that would be the pander to set me on fire. The entire field of speakers did a good job distinguishing themselves, and us, from the dems.

I also appreciated the fact most speakers brought forth the message our rights come from God, with a certain emphasis by Romney. I really appreciated it. There was certainly no pander there. They went there....often.

If Romney is elected, I'm sure there will be issues cropping up ( I will repeal, AND REPLACE  ::puke::obamacare),but I thought a clear message was sent to the American people.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2012, 07:44:11 AM


I don't expect VIP status or something, but I am tired of recent (past century) immigration waves being touted as the quintessentially American experience, superseding the earlier colonial immigrants. None of my ancestors were recent immigrants. Almost all of them came here in the 1700s, and some in the 1600s. They came to what was literally a wilderness, and the fruits of their toil didn't really mature until generations later --

No, first the government built the roads and then your ancestors arrived. You didn't build that.



Oh, I gotta remember this line.....
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 31, 2012, 08:22:14 AM
Well, I don't and I'm sick of hearing it.  ...

...

I don't expect VIP status or something, but I am tired of recent (past century) immigration waves being touted as the quintessentially American experience, superseding the earlier colonial immigrants. None of my ancestors were recent immigrants. Almost all of them came here in the 1700s, and some in the 1600s. They came to what was literally a wilderness, and the fruits of their toil didn't really mature until generations later -- and they did this quite consciously for the benefit of their own posterity. ...

Hear, hear.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2012, 08:33:40 AM
And what is the MFM keying on?  Clint Eastwood.  Heh, picking on an old man...libiots never learn.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/08/30/Eastwood-Mocks-Obama (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/08/30/Eastwood-Mocks-Obama)
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 31, 2012, 09:02:48 AM
When I hear "We're a nation of immigrants", I don't read anything more into it than a reminder that America was founded and built by people who came across the sea, expressed for the political purpose of a addressing the current challenge.

I don't fault Rubio. He is assigned the monumental task of GOP ambassador to Latino voters as an antidote to Leftist demagogeury of race. He walks a fine line of pandering, and I think for the most part he stays on the right side of the line.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: trapeze on August 31, 2012, 10:56:04 AM
There is always something that can be found lacking in any endeavor conceived and executed by human beings but, that said, by and large I think that the RNC came off about as well as it could given the extraordinary burden of having to deal with a hostile and dishonest media.

The trick here was not to fire up the base. If the base isn't fired up to throw the president out then the country is already lost. No, what we were trying to pull off was moving the needle in our direction with those who can be persuaded at this late date. It's sad that there are so many left who have to be convinced that leaving a socialist in office is a bad thing but there it is...that's reality. How the persuadable voters are to be influenced is really the only debatable point.

For me, this convention should have spent more time indicting the president on his faults. The list is very, very long. I wanted to hear his name mentioned more in connection with each and every one of his failings. We got some of that but I wanted more. The reason why I wanted more is that the media has failed to perform this service as it is normally supposed to do.

Instead, there was a lot more time spent building Romney up. Now, this is understandable given the demolition work already done on him by the Democrats and the media. It needed to be done. I felt, though, that the convention architects tipped the scale perhaps a bit much in that direction compared with indicting the president.

Where I thought that they really spent too much time was in trying to convince the persuadable that Republicans don't really hate women. The topic needed to be dealt with but I think, the notion being so patently absurd, that they should have mocked it from time to time rather than trying to win some kind of a pseudo court room argument. I think they shouldn't have treated the "war on women" idea as a joke. They should have countered, heavily, with the very real point that the Democrats are conducting a war on our children and future generations with the debt. It should have been a theme and it should have been pounded into the audience so that it could become a new truth...a new reality.

But these are mere quibbles with how the convention turned out. It was as successful as it could probably have been given the nature of these things. I do believe that we emerged stronger, more unified and clearer of purpose and that is the the over-arching purpose along with connecting with the persuadable voters.

We still have just over two months and now an absolute ton of money to spend on media advertising.

By contrast the Democrats have much less in the bank as they move on to their own convention. They have less money in the bank and they have less in the way of arguments and talent in the bank. It will be very interesting to see if they can pull off a feel good convention that makes the persuadable eager to buy in to their world view. I don't see it happening but the ball is in their court for the next week.

I believe we are going to win. I believe we are going to win big.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on August 31, 2012, 12:31:17 PM

I believe we are going to win. I believe we are going to win big.

I'm starting to think that too.

Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2012, 01:15:48 PM
There is always something that can be found lacking in any endeavor conceived and executed by human beings but, that said, by and large I think that the RNC came off about as well as it could given the extraordinary burden of having to deal with a hostile and dishonest media.

The trick here was not to fire up the base. If the base isn't fired up to throw the president out then the country is already lost. No, what we were trying to pull off was moving the needle in our direction with those who can be persuaded at this late date. It's sad that there are so many left who have to be convinced that leaving a socialist in office is a bad thing but there it is...that's reality. How the persuadable voters are to be influenced is really the only debatable point.

For me, this convention should have spent more time indicting the president on his faults. The list is very, very long. I wanted to hear his name mentioned more in connection with each and every one of his failings. We got some of that but I wanted more. The reason why I wanted more is that the media has failed to perform this service as it is normally supposed to do.

Instead, there was a lot more time spent building Romney up. Now, this is understandable given the demolition work already done on him by the Democrats and the media. It needed to be done. I felt, though, that the convention architects tipped the scale perhaps a bit much in that direction compared with indicting the president.

Where I thought that they really spent too much time was in trying to convince the persuadable that Republicans don't really hate women. The topic needed to be dealt with but I think, the notion being so patently absurd, that they should have mocked it from time to time rather than trying to win some kind of a pseudo court room argument. I think they shouldn't have treated the "war on women" idea as a joke. They should have countered, heavily, with the very real point that the Democrats are conducting a war on our children and future generations with the debt. It should have been a theme and it should have been pounded into the audience so that it could become a new truth...a new reality.

But these are mere quibbles with how the convention turned out. It was as successful as it could probably have been given the nature of these things. I do believe that we emerged stronger, more unified and clearer of purpose and that is the the over-arching purpose along with connecting with the persuadable voters.

We still have just over two months and now an absolute ton of money to spend on media advertising.

By contrast the Democrats have much less in the bank as they move on to their own convention. They have less money in the bank and they have less in the way of arguments and talent in the bank. It will be very interesting to see if they can pull off a feel good convention that makes the persuadable eager to buy in to their world view. I don't see it happening but the ball is in their court for the next week.

I believe we are going to win. I believe we are going to win big.

There is a fine line....I didn't want us to come off as Whining. We didn't. I thought we did a good job providing the proof we are the mainstream....it's sad we need to, but people don't pay attention and the media is brutal to us.

I also thought there was a sort of an undercurrent we will be treated as adults. The dems won't do it, they treat their base as children.  Dems need the flowery, emotion driven coddling. I wasn't talked down to, but addressed directly. The entire event, IMO, personified mitt romneys personality..... Not over the top, but direct and steady. Confident. Like he ran his business. Again, I appreciated it.

Plus, we painted pictures. Have you ever listened to a story, a situation explained, where you connected? You had that " oh, I've been there, reflective moment that always sticks with you". Susan Martinez explained hers. She had that " oh crap, we are republicans" reflective moment. The faded poster on the wall....I know there were people watching who thought...yeah.....they connected. Those are powerful. Purposeful. I think it is important, essential that voters feel those connections, those discoveries..... We just gave them the canvas.

So yeah, there will always be some things we all want different....but overall, this was a pretty damn good presentation.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 31, 2012, 01:35:43 PM
Quote
I believe we (they) are going to win. I believe we (they) are going to win big.

Fixed it for you
Keynesians, neo cons and big government Rinos ain't me.

Yah, I'll probably vote for him but, not because he's good. Just better than the alternative
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Glock32 on August 31, 2012, 01:56:41 PM
When I hear "We're a nation of immigrants", I don't read anything more into it than a reminder that America was founded and built by people who came across the sea, expressed for the political purpose of a addressing the current challenge.

I don't fault Rubio. He is assigned the monumental task of GOP ambassador to Latino voters as an antidote to Leftist demagogeury of race. He walks a fine line of pandering, and I think for the most part he stays on the right side of the line.

Well I agree with you on that, and I didn't even hear the Rubio speech so I wasn't responding to that per se.  I was just keying in on Pandora's gripe, and it is one that I share. To me there is a difference between acknowledging that immigration was necessarily a big part of creating an entirely new country, and the more politically motivated variation of that acknowledgment which always has a bit of a revisionist tone to it IMO.

It gets my fur up when there is the implication that immigration from any place and in any time is interchangeable with that of any other time or place. It seems the follow up question is never asked: just what are people immigrating to?  The answer is a mature civilization that is rooted in such things as the English language, English Common Law traced all the way to the Magna Carta, the Anglo-Saxon adversarial legal tradition, and pick any number of other things. I think that is what is missing from the discussion on immigration in modern decades. It used to be that people acknowledged these things and strove to become a part of it themselves. Now it's all about planting thousands of miniature colonies within, and then celebrating it.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: CatholicCrusader on August 31, 2012, 05:49:03 PM
Well, I think ALL the speeches were great, including Clint Eastwood's.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on August 31, 2012, 06:49:57 PM
Well, I think ALL the speeches were great, including Clint Eastwood's.


The dem party is in trouble when they choose to hammer Clint eastwoods speech. Did you notice there was a telepromptor in front of the empty chair. ::laughonfloor::

I'm not sure what people were expecting....I listened again and he had some funny lines. He did stammer some but so what. He delivered a simple message that was dead on true.

We'll see what the MSM says when sandra fluke flops her privates up on stage. I'm sure the ghost of kennedy will be close by, along with bill clinton.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: AlanS on August 31, 2012, 08:31:32 PM
I'm sure the ghost of kennedy will be close by, along with bill clinton sexually harassing Sandra Fluke.

FIFY.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: John Florida on August 31, 2012, 09:16:20 PM
I'm sure the ghost of kennedy will be close by, along with bill clinton sexually harassing Sandra Fluke.

FIFY.

  You can't harass the willing.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: AlanS on August 31, 2012, 09:45:52 PM
I'm sure the ghost of kennedy will be close by, along with bill clinton sexually harassing Sandra Fluke.

FIFY.

  You can't harass the willing.

How I missed that I'll never know.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on September 01, 2012, 08:14:28 AM
She'll give it up for Ted's ghost?  Won't Bill be po'd?!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on September 01, 2012, 08:49:37 AM
She'll give it up for Ted's ghost?  Won't Bill be po'd?!

 ::hysterical::

Threesome
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on September 01, 2012, 10:55:41 PM
Ick.  My first thought was, no, not a threesome, since a threesome is typically thought of as two females with one male, since the females are willing to touch each other. The other is referred to as a gang-bang, because it is typically a take-turns situation....then other things occurred to me such as when Bill walks into a room with a fish tank even they stop swimming because they know what he will do to ANYTHING that moves, and I wish I hadn't noticed the thread. Bill Clinton, A dead Kennedy, and Sandra Fluke.......Icky.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Pandora on September 01, 2012, 11:04:24 PM
Ick.  My first thought was, no, not a threesome, since a threesome is typically thought of as two females with one male, since the females are willing to touch each other. The other is referred to as a gang-bang, because it is typically a take-turns situation....then other things occurred to me such as when Bill walks into a room with a fish tank even they stop swimming because they know what he will do to ANYTHING that moves, and I wish I hadn't noticed the thread. Bill Clinton, A dead Kennedy, and Sandra Fluke.......Icky.

 ::hysterical::

Need mind bleach now?
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: EW1(SG) on September 02, 2012, 08:02:59 AM
Ick.  My first thought was, no, not a threesome, since a threesome is typically thought of as two females with one male, since the females are willing to touch each other. The other is referred to as a gang-bang, because it is typically a take-turns situation....then other things occurred to me such as when Bill walks into a room with a fish tank even they stop swimming because they know what he will do to ANYTHING that moves, and I wish I hadn't noticed the thread. Bill Clinton, A dead Kennedy, and Sandra Fluke.......Icky.

 ::hysterical::

Need mind bleach now?

Kennedy was infamous for, among other things, "sandwiching" a coat check girl with another Senator at a DC restaurant.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: John Florida on September 02, 2012, 08:25:23 AM
Ick.  My first thought was, no, not a threesome, since a threesome is typically thought of as two females with one male, since the females are willing to touch each other. The other is referred to as a gang-bang, because it is typically a take-turns situation....then other things occurred to me such as when Bill walks into a room with a fish tank even they stop swimming because they know what he will do to ANYTHING that moves, and I wish I hadn't noticed the thread. Bill Clinton, A dead Kennedy, and Sandra Fluke.......Icky.

 ::hysterical::

Need mind bleach now?

   

Kennedy was infamous for, among other things, "sandwiching" a coat check girl with another Senator at a DC restaurant.


 The other Senator was Connecticuts own Dodd,the drunken bum.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on September 03, 2012, 11:38:00 AM
forgive me it this is posted elsewhere, I didn't see  it


Paul Ryan Responds To So-Called Fact-Checkers Of His RNC Speech with Brian Williams

Unaired & Unedited: Paul Ryan Responds To So-Called Fact-Checkers Of His RNC Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHSPM2SoO0M#)

I liked how Ryan said he wouldn't have said it if it wasn't true

Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Predator Don on September 03, 2012, 02:36:30 PM
forgive me it this is posted elsewhere, I didn't see  it


Paul Ryan Responds To So-Called Fact-Checkers Of His RNC Speech with Brian Williams

Unaired & Unedited: Paul Ryan Responds To So-Called Fact-Checkers Of His RNC Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHSPM2SoO0M#)

I liked how Ryan said he wouldn't have said it if it wasn't true




Dems misleading......who'd a thought.
Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: Libertas on September 03, 2012, 07:30:32 PM
forgive me it this is posted elsewhere, I didn't see  it


Paul Ryan Responds To So-Called Fact-Checkers Of His RNC Speech with Brian Williams

Unaired & Unedited: Paul Ryan Responds To So-Called Fact-Checkers Of His RNC Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHSPM2SoO0M#)

I liked how Ryan said he wouldn't have said it if it wasn't true




Dems misleading......who'd a thought.

They're all on the same retarded talking points...as this asshat from CA confirms...

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/09/03/kcbs-exclusive-california-dems-leader-compares-gops-to-nazi-joseph-goebbels/ (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/09/03/kcbs-exclusive-california-dems-leader-compares-gops-to-nazi-joseph-goebbels/)

When all you have is lying, cheating and stealing...you accuse your opponents of what you are guilty of.  Yeah, the old "you suck too" playground crap that most grow out of as they mature stays with libiots until death.  And really, when it comes to lying and state power to cotrol others, nobody can out-Nazi Dem's!

And that lying Succubus Nasty Pelosi decides not to denounce this tone and instead tries, horribly I might add, to attack Ryan.  

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/horrible-pelosi-refuses-to-condemn-dem-leader-who-just-compared-republicans-to-nazis-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/horrible-pelosi-refuses-to-condemn-dem-leader-who-just-compared-republicans-to-nazis-video/)

You know you just scored a double-tap on our enemy when this happens!

Title: Re: Libertas' All Things 2012 RNC Convention Thread
Post by: CatholicCrusader on September 04, 2012, 05:22:04 PM
Romney & Ryan: The first interview

Romney & Ryan: The first interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyjuXvho-O8#ws)

One day after choosing Congressman Paul Ryan as his running mate,
presidential candidate Mitt Romney and Rep. Ryan sit down for an interview
with CBS News' Bob Schieffer