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Topics => World/Foreign Affairs => Topic started by: Pandora on October 24, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
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""Thanks to intrepid investigative reporting ... and information developed by congressional investigators, the mystery is beginning to unravel with regard to what happened that night and the reason for the subsequent, clumsy official cover-up now known as Benghazigate.
The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East. Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat J. Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.
Once Moammar Gadhafi was overthrown, Stevens was appointed ambassador to the new Libya run by Mr. Belhadj and his friends. Not surprisingly, one of the most important priorities for someone in that position would be to try to find and secure the immense amount of armaments that had been cached by the dictator around the country and systematically looted during and after the revolution.
One of the places in Libya most awash with such weapons in the most dangerous of hands is Benghazi. It now appears that Stevens was there — on a particularly risky day, with no security to speak of and despite now copiously documented concerns about his own safety and that of his subordinates — for another priority mission: sending arms recovered from the former regime’s stocks to the “opposition” in Syria. As in Libya, the insurgents are known to include al Qaeda and other Shariah-supremacist groups, including none other than Abdelhakim Belhadj.
... Investigative journalist Aaron Klein has reported that the “consulate in Benghazi” actually was no such thing. He observes that although administration officials have done nothing to correct that oft-repeated characterization of the facility where the murderous attack on Stevens and his colleagues was launched, they call it a “mission.” What Mr. Klein describes as a “shabby, nondescript building” that lacked any “major public security presence” was, according to an unnamed Middle Eastern security official, “routinely used by Stevens and others to coordinate with the Turkish, Saudi and Qatari governments on supporting the insurgencies in the Middle East, most prominently the rebels opposing Assad’s regime in Syria.”
What have I been saying about the consulate-that-wasn't?
We know that Stevens‘ last official act was to hold such a meeting with an unidentified “Turkish diplomat.” Presumably, the conversation involved additional arms shipments to al Qaeda and its allies in Syria. It also may have involved getting more jihadi fighters there. After all, Mr. Klein reported last month that, according to sources in Egyptian security, our ambassador was playing a “central role in recruiting jihadists to fight Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.”
It gets worse. Last week, Center for Security Policy senior fellow and former career CIA officer Clare Lopez observed that there were two large warehouse-type buildings associated with the so-called “consulate” whose purpose has yet to be disclosed. As their contents were raided in the course of the attack, we may never know for sure whether they housed — and were known by the local jihadis to house — arms, perhaps administered by the two former Navy SEALs killed along with Stevens.
What we do know is that the New York Times — one of the most slavishly pro-Obama publications in the country — reported in an Oct. 14 article, “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster.”
In short, it seems President Obama has been engaged in gun-walking on a massive scale. The effect has been to equip America’s enemies to wage jihad not only against regimes it once claimed were our friends, but inevitably against us and our allies as well. That would explain his administration’s desperate and now failing bid to mislead the voters through the serial deflections of Benghazigate."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate/)
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so it seems it's not just because BO is lazy and disconnected...
more and more it looks like a real coverup...of a real policy decision
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I believe I said this several weeks ago:
What is Arabic for Fast and Furious?
Is this an Impeachable Offense?
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When you have both the muslim brotherhood working closely with [read: infiltrating] our State Department and a Precedent who has stated "I will stand with [muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction,” anything goes. Whenever we find out the gory details, we'll discover The Owebama Doctrine of "Redistribution" was at the heart of this scandal, this time redistributing Western weapons to the poor downtrodden jihadis in North Africa. A reverse Iran-Contra if you will, as Owebama was trying to set up the play where he could give the jihadis weapons and trade a live ambassador for the blind sheikh (who is muslim brotherhood; OOPS there they are again!). With Iran Contra, we were trying to raise money surreptitiously (read: black ops) by selling arms to Iran to pay some ransom, IIRC, along with funding the Nicaraguan Contras (contra Ortega, himself a commie rat bastard). While the bureaucratic labyrinthine 'logic' was the problem, the desired outcome was a good one, though not justifiable by dealing with Iran at all. With Benghazi, we have an Administration whose policy is to be chummy with the muslim brotherhood, to hold meetings with them, to work with them to promote the Arab Spring as some sort of spontaneous display of a desire for democracy when it's actually the complete opposite, what with all the calls for sharia now emanating from across North Africa. I believe Owebama wanted to show his 'good faith' to the muslim brotherhood in trading the sheikh for the ambassador, who was involved in arms smuggling to the muslim brotherhood; the sheikh/ambassador trade would also increase the muslim brotherhood's stature, just as Arafart played the terrorist deiplomat and enhanced the stature of the PLO. It was all supposed to be a neat and tidy affair as dreamed up by the smartest guy on the planet, nay galaxy, nay universe, because you just know this is all Owebama's grandiose plan as he's made his personal feelings quite clear regarding "The War on Terror" and America's policies toward The Middle East and other muslim countries.
F&F was designed to be a clarion call for gun control in the States. Benghazi was supposed to be Owebama's shining foreign policy coup right before the election. I bet this guy can't tie his shoes without help or he wears those velcro abominations.
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I believe Owebama wanted to show his 'good faith' to the muslim brotherhood ...
That seems to be the theme song of the Left in so many areas it isn't even funny: if we just show 'them' we mean no harm, they'll be nice to us.
Obongo trusting 'slims -- The Brotherhood -- to live up to their end of a deal, especially when doing so would be nothing *but* good for them -- is an example of how to live a life completely devoid of a working acquaintance with reality.
And nothing as convoluted as this *alleged* plan ever goes off neat and tidy, even by the best operators, for the ranks of which Obongo doesn't qualify.
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Obama is an anti-colonialist.
He supports anti-colonialists.
He is opposed to western culture
and is devoting his presidency to its demise.
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I just want the SCoaMF out by any means. Can't take much more of this shyt!
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http://libya360.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/ambassador-stevens-documented-creation-of-benghazi-terror-emerite/ (http://libya360.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/ambassador-stevens-documented-creation-of-benghazi-terror-emerite/)
In June of 2012, the New York Times in an article titled, “C.I.A. Said to Aid in Steering Arms to Syrian Opposition,” (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/world/middleeast/cia-said-to-aid-in-steering-arms-to-syrian-rebels.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)
"In essence, Syria has been under invasion for nearly a year by Libyan terrorists – the very same terrorists who have overrun Benghazi and killed a US ambassador, fully facilitated by NATO. In addition to these terrorists, Turkey and the United States are also arming and funding Muslim Brotherhood militants as well as fighters from US State Department-listed Ansar al-Islam.
To explain this to the public, the Western press is claiming that the weapons are inadvertently ending up in the hands of extremists, despite the CIA operating along the border allegedly steering weapons into the hands of “more secular” militants.
"A small number of C.I.A. officers are operating secretly in southern Turkey, helping allies decide which Syrian opposition fighters across the border will receive arms to fight the Syrian government, according to American officials and Arab intelligence officers.
The weapons, including automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenades, ammunition and some antitank weapons, are being funneled mostly across the Turkish border by way of a shadowy network of intermediaries including Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood and paid for by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the officials said.
The C.I.A. officers have been in southern Turkey for several weeks, in part to help keep weapons out of the hands of fighters allied with Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, one senior American official said. The Obama administration has said it is not providing arms to the rebels, but it has also acknowledged that Syria’s neighbors would do so. "
"The Obama administration has said ... ". Right.
Back to Gaffney: "We know that Stevens‘ last official act was to hold such a meeting with an unidentified “Turkish diplomat.”"
Read more: GAFFNEY: The real reason behind Benghazigate - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate/#ixzz2AKq69Jxv (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate/#ixzz2AKq69Jxv)
There's more at both links.
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Moving thread to "World, Foreign Affairs".
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Beck is talking to Mr. Woods, father of one of the fallen SEALs, his story of what the Obama Regime told him vs what is coming out about the whole thing going down being known by them real-time and no air support sent to help them has him pissed, it is a matter of "honor" that he is speaking, and he is spot on, honor!
We cannot forget what happened here, we cannot forget why it happened, and we cannot ever let it happen again.
Honor, the lives given demand nothing less!
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Beck is talking to Mr. Woods, father of one of the fallen SEALs, his story of what the Obama Regime told him vs what is coming out about the whole thing going down being known by them real-time and no air support sent to help them has him pissed, it is a matter of "honor" that he is speaking, and he is spot on, honor!
We cannot forget what happened here, we cannot forget why it happened, and we cannot ever let it happen again.
Honor, the lives given demand nothing less!
Just turned this on
Beck's saying the two Seals were told to stand down
and they went anyway
You don't tell Seals not to do their duty and try to save Americans
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Read the whole thing. It's sickening.
"Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by officials in the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2AQDPxxHS (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2AQDPxxHS)
Who exactly was "the ambassador's team"?
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Read the whole thing. It's sickening.
heart sick
Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the Consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The quick reaction force from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the Consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.
At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support...
Would like to hear from those evacuated
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Rush had a former LtCol on his show a little bit a go, I sat and listened to the whole thing so I could concentrate on the info, the CIF protocols would trigger repsonses to events, it is their mission to respond at the first sign of trouble (assets could come from Sigonella, Italy or Djibouti), flash traffic would have alerted these commanders, the CIA, WH Situation Room, everybody simultaneously, the only way they could be stopped is to be ordered to stand down. What we are getting now from Panetta is bullsh*t. Panetta is not saying he gave the stand-down order so it had to come from the White House, who in the White House gave that order we may never know unless butts are arrested and charged. This whole thing makes me ill. In the context of what we know, it is not out of the realm of reality to see Obama wanted to not inflame the Musloids by going in with troops, even to save our own people, something every CiC is charged with doing, protecting Americans! For SEVEN hours this went on, all the flash traffic, radio traffic, 2 drones overhead...and this White House just watched them die! They then lied to Mr. Woods. They lied to all of us. We got the idiot Biden asking Mr. Woods "Has you son always had balls as big as cue balls?" as his son's casket lays in the hanger. We get Obama going on junketts to raise campaign cash in Vegas and schmooze on late night comedy shows and all the mock outrage in the debate! Those assets could have saved people, at least those at the annex, possibly some at the consulate, but Obama did NOTHING! And still, what the hell is Congress doing? NOTHING! I cannot stand this! All I know for sure is the wrong people died that day!
Links -
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/father-slain-seal-who-made-decision-not-save-my-son_657782.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/father-slain-seal-who-made-decision-not-save-my-son_657782.html)
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/10/26/panetta-critics-monday-morning-quarterbacking-white-house-handling-of-libya-attack/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/10/26/panetta-critics-monday-morning-quarterbacking-white-house-handling-of-libya-attack/)
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/joe-biden-to-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-benghazi-did-your-son-always-have-balls-the-size-of-cue-balls/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/joe-biden-to-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-benghazi-did-your-son-always-have-balls-the-size-of-cue-balls/)
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Heard all of that too, Libertas.
Found this particularly interesting ...
"... flash traffic would have alerted these commanders, the CIA, WH Situation Room, everybody simultaneously ....".
Yep. Yet we're fed some bullsht story about three emails that sort of got lost in the flush of emails they get all day, everyday, as though we're so stupid we either don't know or can't figure out that OF COURSE they have dedicated, closed systems/communication channels for just these sorts of flash alerts.
::gaah::
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It's all bullsh*t. They are hoping beyond reason that people are stupid enough to buy the fog and ignore the reality.
AT has a nice rundown of this whole affair -
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/they_fought_for_their_lives.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/they_fought_for_their_lives.html)
Oh, and look! A stern letter! Yeah, those always work!
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/25/Boehner-Demands-Answers-From-White-House-on-Libya (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/25/Boehner-Demands-Answers-From-White-House-on-Libya)
::cussing:: moron!
Assess in chairs getting grilled 24/7, not a fricken letter pleading for the SCoaMF to lie his ass off on TV again!
::cussing:: fool!
Boehner needs to go, period!
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Something I missed in the Fox News report that Bob Owens, PJ Tatler, pointed out:
"The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.
The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators."
A Spectre is an AC-130U, a sweetheart of a gunship, about which you can read and see in action at the PJ Tatler link (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/26/ac-130u-gunship-was-on-scene-in-benghazi-obama-admin-refused-to-let-it-fire/?singlepage=true).
Owens is of the opinion there were two already in Libya, although his link doesn't back that up. Even so, there were air assets in Italy that could have been deployed.
Now ask yourself: what the hell was the guy doing on the roof, either "sparkling" a target or just using a laser pointer if he didn't expect air support?!
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They say that just a fly-by completed by an F-16 at low altitude with a full burn on is usually enough to disperse a crowd of hostiles Why wasn't even this low level action authorized? Why did they choose to do NOTHING?
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Our nation is lost if justice isn't done here.
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There is no excuse for not sending in a Spectre to obliterate the scum, there is no excuse for not sending in support to rescue surviviors and gather our fallen, there is no excuse for failing to act, period.
And it appears all fingers are pointed directly at the White House!
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/petraeus-throws-obama-under-bus_657896.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/petraeus-throws-obama-under-bus_657896.html)
And all the SCoaMF Obama can do is say they are looking into it and will make sure it doesn't happen again. What a miserable lying little fvck! You are damned right it won't happen again, because Obama is going to get his ass kicked the hell out!
::asskicking::
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Wheels within wheels?
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50586 (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50586)
Or tinfoil hat time?
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Chris Wallace (Fox News) had a member of the Intelligence Committee on his show this morning and the guy absolutely would not tell him whether the drones in Benghazi were armed or not.
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Perhaps a little bit of ::foilhathelicopter:: but I can certainly see the Obama Regime wanting to keep a lid on any Iranian involvement in Libya in an election year, the Syrian thing seems a bit of a stretch to me, and the Russians are simply not going ot let things get to out of hand. I give little credit to Russians in general but in this case I think they see more clearly than we do that a destabilized Syria benefits Iran more than anyone. We have no compelling strategic interest in Syria and should let the Russians get their hands dirty on this one, and I could care less what Turkey does, Russia can slap them around too for all I care. We should have kicked those Turkish punks out of NATO no later than the first Gulf War, they suck as an ally, so I would argue they are not an ally!
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Re: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50586 (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50586)
One must presume we were effective getting weapons to the actual adversaries of Iran in Syria. That is counter intuitive and it would be a first for Obama. 2¢
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LINK (http://www.conservativecommune.com/2012/10/benghazi-where-the-blank-is-spectre/)
Friday and Saturday, the news leaked out that Tyrone Woods was found dead, slumped over his ammo-exhausted machine gun on top of the Annex, where he and Glen Doherty had fought against 150 or so al-Qaeda affiliated Ansar al-Sharia militants who followed them from the embassy, waiting for Libyan forces to arrive and relieve them and the other US personnel stationed there, along with those they'd saved from the embassy complex. Rumor has it that the two former SEALs had killed 60 of those militants in the firefight.
Today, administration apologists were all over the networks talking about how unhelpful and partisan it is to demand answers from the White House, who want to get the answers more than anybody . . . after the elections. Oh, wait: administration apologists were on FOX, which was the only network really to address the matter.
More details were delivered by FOX tonight. You really have get a look at the information to see how bad it all looks for the administration. The evidence has been mounting that the White House hung them out to dry. If Woods and Doherty had not relieved the embassy and defended the Annex, the American body count almost certainly would have been much higher. Their heroism was repaid with . . . dead fish.
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Famous Stymie Quote : " Ben Gahzi ? ... Who's Ben Gahzi ? "
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Famous Stymie Quote : " Ben Gahzi ? ... Who's Ben Gahzi ? "
An actor from the tv series, Run For Your Life.
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LINK (http://www.conservativecommune.com/2012/10/benghazi-where-the-blank-is-spectre/)
Friday and Saturday, the news leaked out that Tyrone Woods was found dead, slumped over his ammo-exhausted machine gun on top of the Annex, where he and Glen Doherty had fought against 150 or so al-Qaeda affiliated Ansar al-Sharia militants who followed them from the embassy, waiting for Libyan forces to arrive and relieve them and the other US personnel stationed there, along with those they'd saved from the embassy complex. Rumor has it that the two former SEALs had killed 60 of those militants in the firefight.
Today, administration apologists were all over the networks talking about how unhelpful and partisan it is to demand answers from the White House, who want to get the answers more than anybody . . . after the elections. Oh, wait: administration apologists were on FOX, which was the only network really to address the matter.
More details were delivered by FOX tonight. You really have get a look at the information to see how bad it all looks for the administration. The evidence has been mounting that the White House hung them out to dry. If Woods and Doherty had not relieved the embassy and defended the Annex, the American body count almost certainly would have been much higher. Their heroism was repaid with . . . dead fish.
Makes my blood BOIL thinking about the treason Obama is trying to get away with!!!
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He painted the target.
Why would he paint a target unless there was an asset available to hit it? He wouldn't. There was an armed
drone or AC135 at the site.
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Makes my blood BOIL thinking about the treason Obama is trying going to get away with!!!
Fixed it for you
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He painted the target.
Why would he paint a target unless there was an asset available to hit it? He wouldn't. There was an armed
drone or AC135 at the site.
No, he damn well wouldn't because by doing so he made a target of himself.
The more I hear of, read, write and discuss this .... this ..... THING, the angrier I get because I know the guilty culprits will not be punished. Unless a miracle happens. It appears, however, a current miracle in the form of a tremendous storm appears on the horizon just in time to suck up the attention of the Presstitutes that weren't going to touch Benghazi with a ten-foot poll. (Spelling intentional).
Today, the bad, evil, guilty are rarely if ever called to account. I'm sick to death of it.
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If they are not prosecuted, well, our questions about the fate of the nation will be answered, eh?
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The more I hear of, read, write and discuss this .... this ..... THING, the angrier I get because I know the guilty culprits will not be punished. Unless a miracle happens. It appears, however, a current miracle in the form of a tremendous storm appears on the horizon just in time to suck up the attention of the Presstitutes that weren't going to touch Benghazi with a ten-foot poll. (Spelling intentional).
Today, the bad, evil, guilty are rarely if ever called to account. I'm sick to death of it.
I alternate between being ill to screaming angry.
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Reply #2
Winner winner chicken dinner.
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Reply #2
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Reply #2 on which page?
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October 29, 2012 (http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/156028/)
"HORROR: I have no words to say how horrified I am at Benghazi and at the Administration’s behavior through it and their cover up now. I keep thinking anyone with a shred of decency left would own up just out of guilt. A friend sent me this, which captures the stark horror of it for me.
(http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/coward-obama-e1351444512643.jpg)
Sorry if I seem to be harping on it. When it happened I was sick with grief — its coming as it did on 9/11 — and now I’m sick with anger. Where is nemesis when you need it? How can the president be offended at questions while his hands drip with the blood of people who depended on him? He is at the very least guilty of gross dereliction of duty. And if he didn’t know about it, WHY NOT?
Posted by Sarah Hoyt at 1:20 pm "
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Pray.
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Thought I would share an analysis of a friend who blogs. He was a spook in the Navy and has worked with SEALS and intelligence for decades. He said I could share his blog post about the Benghazi fiasco.
http://commotioninthepews.com/ (http://commotioninthepews.com/)
In the Navy I served as a Cryptologic Technician Interpretive. I held a Top Secret SCI/SBI clearance and had access to a wide variety of intelligence sources and methods. I was an Arabic linguist, an intelligence collector and analyst for the Middle East North Africa area. I was one of those “real time” guys that Leon Panetta is telling lies about today. I was there, in person, on the very edge of the sword. Among other things, I spent a month cruising back and forth along the famous “Line of Death” exercising freedom of the seas. Our purpose was to take the first missile if Qadaffi came back out to sea after the attacks of 1986. We were bait. But I knew the fleet was over the horizon waiting to aid us if we were attacked. I was back again a year later with the U.S.S. Coral Sea when we almost went to war with Libya again. I’ve been there and done that other times as well.
I consider him an expert on middle east affairs and his work with the SEALS.
He is also a much better writer then I could ever be.
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Thanks, Miltrainer.
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Thought I would share an analysis of a friend who blogs. He was a spook in the Navy and has worked with SEALS and intelligence for decades. He said I could share his blog post about the Benghazi fiasco.
http://commotioninthepews.com/ (http://commotioninthepews.com/)
In the Navy I served as a Cryptologic Technician Interpretive. I held a Top Secret SCI/SBI clearance and had access to a wide variety of intelligence sources and methods. I was an Arabic linguist, an intelligence collector and analyst for the Middle East North Africa area. I was one of those “real time” guys that Leon Panetta is telling lies about today. I was there, in person, on the very edge of the sword. Among other things, I spent a month cruising back and forth along the famous “Line of Death” exercising freedom of the seas. Our purpose was to take the first missile if Qadaffi came back out to sea after the attacks of 1986. We were bait. But I knew the fleet was over the horizon waiting to aid us if we were attacked. I was back again a year later with the U.S.S. Coral Sea when we almost went to war with Libya again. I’ve been there and done that other times as well.
I consider him an expert on middle east affairs and his work with the SEALS.
He is also a much better writer then I could ever be.
Thank you. We have an administration which preys on the uninformed and a complicit media. I've always been taught to love the sinner but hate the sin. I've found an instance in which I cannot. I simply cannot find any good in this human being. I do not put ANYTHING past this group, from voter fraud to murder. This is proving the point that we have literally MILLIONS of people who are simply unamerican.
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Thought I would share an analysis of a friend who blogs. He was a spook in the Navy and has worked with SEALS and intelligence for decades. He said I could share his blog post about the Benghazi fiasco.
http://commotioninthepews.com/ (http://commotioninthepews.com/)
In the Navy I served as a Cryptologic Technician Interpretive. I held a Top Secret SCI/SBI clearance and had access to a wide variety of intelligence sources and methods. I was an Arabic linguist, an intelligence collector and analyst for the Middle East North Africa area. I was one of those “real time” guys that Leon Panetta is telling lies about today. I was there, in person, on the very edge of the sword. Among other things, I spent a month cruising back and forth along the famous “Line of Death” exercising freedom of the seas. Our purpose was to take the first missile if Qadaffi came back out to sea after the attacks of 1986. We were bait. But I knew the fleet was over the horizon waiting to aid us if we were attacked. I was back again a year later with the U.S.S. Coral Sea when we almost went to war with Libya again. I’ve been there and done that other times as well.
I consider him an expert on middle east affairs and his work with the SEALS.
He is also a much better writer then I could ever be.
All right, another former mate from the 'ol Coral Maru! I preceded him in on that vessel a few years, missed the 'ol line of death. Nice to have more confirmation of what we know to be the truth!
::thumbsup::
I'm still so absolutely seething mad over the betrayal of our people and the casual way that the despicable assholes proping up this regime can operate without guilt or remorse...I want the guilty to be throttled!!!
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And well said analysis it is, thanks for bringing it here.
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Because everything is better with pictures...
10/29/12 Bret Baier, Benghazi: New Revelations Part I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu4-J6CyMYU#ws)
10/29/12 Bret Baier, Benghazi: New Revelations Part II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hmavlnTVkQ#ws)
10/29/12 Bret Baier, Benghazi: New Revelations Part III (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D38jO2bt36s#ws)
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There are four things that are certain -
1) Air assets for both extraction of our people and for suppressing enemy fire would have been decisive.
2) Watching this crap go on for as long as it did is unforgivable.
3) The highest levels of the Obama Regime are unwilling to tell us who gave the order to stand down the automatic response efforts, displaying an incredible lack of honesty with the American people and demonstrating their complete incompetence and untrustworthiness...something the father of Ty Woods found out in a way none of us should ever have to experience.
4) Obama is quashing all news on this story for rank partisan political reasons, if for some unfathomable reason the Romney surge is hijacked and this megalomaniac stays in office, there should be impeachment hearings scheduled at the earliest possible date.
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The heir apparent, the Dauphin is steadily moving forward.
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I would simply link to this if it were possible,
her analysis should be part of this archive.
Personally, I think he was running the guns for "them"
and "they" were desperately trying to achieve
plausible deniability for "their" deeds.
Proof Benghazi was Murder of Stevens by Regime
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - January 9, AD 2013 2:18 PM MST
Hillary began pushing the fake "protests against a video blaspheming the prophet" BEFORE WOODS AND DOHERTY WERE KILLED. Per the story below, the Associated Press first published a story on Hillary's official statement on Benghazi at 10:58pm Eastern, which means that the State Department must have released it BEFORE 10:58 pm EDT. Which means that is was actually written and composed hours before that. State Department press releases in the Secretary of State's name aren't written and released without all kinds of "approvals" and process. And this statement is written in nuanced prose, referencing "religious tolerance" and all kinds of bullsh*t. It isn't a flash bulletin. It was thought out, long and hard.
Doherty and Woods were killed by mortar fire between 11:14 and 11:26 pm EDT.
Here is the citation link. (http://cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-jeffrey/clinton-publicly-linked-benghazi-video-woods-and-doherty-were-killed)
Stop and think about this. The bullsh*t MOTIVE was publicly assigned by the State Department before the murders had even occurred. HOURS before.
As I wrote back in October, Benghazi was the planned and calculated murder of Chris Stevens by the Obama regime, with Hillary at point because they needed him dead to cover the gunrunning by the Obama regime to the Muslim Brotherhood / al Qaeda.
You are paying taxes to this. You are enabling this. You are exactly like the people of Germany paying taxes and giving tacit approval to Hitler and the Third Reich.
Here is the original piece I wrote on October 26th.
Are you ready to listen now?
Let's quit the chickensh*t dancing around here. The Obama regime has been running guns and BIGTIME armaments and munitions, including MANPADS, which are shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles designed to shoot down commercial jetliners, to the Muslim Brotherhood, which is al Qaeda. This is just Fast-and-Furious except that the people being armed are musloids tasked with reforming the Islamic Caliphate instead of the drug cartels. But it is exactly the same thing. Ghadaffi was overthrown because the Obama regime wanted to use a chaotic, destabilized "wild west" Libya as the doorway to the Caliphate to get the arms in for distribution to Syria, Yemen, Jordan, Egypt and eventually Saudi Arabia. Egypt would have been too risky.
Ambassador Chris Stevens and the CIA were somehow, some way running or heavily involved this armament pipeline.
The Obama regime wanted and needed Chris Stevens dead, probably to cover the gun and armament running, so they killed him. Word was sent to the Muslim Brotherhood to attack the Benghazi facility. The Obama regime promised that there would be no interference or retaliation and that a cover story about "slandering the prophet" would be provided. The Muslim Brotherhood wins all around. They get to keep all of the arms and MANPADS supplied by Obama with no whistleblowers AND they get their bullsh*t sharia law agenda advanced and explicitly ratified by the government of the United States.
Get used to this business of the Oligarch class using the Muslim Brotherhood / al Qaeda to do their dirty work for them. This has been the plan all along, and it will only escalate from here.
As I have been saying since 2008, Barack Obama is the explicit enemy of what used to be the First American Republic, and of Western Civilization in general. EXPLICIT ENEMY. As in traitor. As in treason. As in murderer. As in should be arrested as a non-state, non-uniformed enemy belligerent, tried in a military tribunal, and upon conviction be put against a wall and shot by a firing squad, and then have his dead body publicly displayed so that there will be no future doubt or bullsh*t conspiracy theory crap that the son of a bitch wasn't executed. No sh*t.
And the same goes for dozens of people in his "administration" right along with him, except that the U.S. citizens, like Hillary Clinton, should be tried for treason. But like Obama, upon conviction (which should take all of five minutes to deliberate) these people should be executed by firing squad without delay. They are traitors and they are murderers.
After almost four years of this sh*t, you people are still trying to parse these events as if these people are just misguided or inept. These people are the declared enemy of what used to be the United States (they put the last nail in the coffin - the Republic is already dead) and of Western civilization. They are attempting to bring about a global tyrannical oligarchy and are in a close, explicit alliance with islam in order to consolidate control of the oil producing areas of the muslim world and eliminate Israel, and eventually to use the Caliphate as the army which will totally overrun and overthrow Europe.
Clinton, Obama, Panetta, Axelrod and THEIR HANDLERS, all of these people are coming straight out of Communism, which is really nothing more than a push for a global tyrannical oligarchy. It has little to do with any sort of economic theory per se, its only goal is to put a cadre of oligarchs in power, and to enrich them by any means necessary. We should probably stop calling it Communism and just call it neo-Stalinism.
Chris Stevens was tortured, gang ass raped, killed, and his dead body was gang ass raped again because the initial order came from Washington D.C. to kill him - not kidnap him, KILL HIM. The details really didn't concern the murderers sitting in Washington watching it happen via drone-cam, nor did the collateral damage in the form of the other three men killed. Stevens thought he was "in the club", but the poor fool was just another "stupid faggot" in the eyes of the Obama regime who was used and then killed because he was worth less than nothing to them. But then, all human life is worth less than nothing to these people.
One of the SEALs was on the roof of the building painting a target with a laser expecting a drone or a gunship to engage. What the SEAL failed to understand is that the drone he knew was flying above him was in fact the asset of the very people who ordered the strike, and that they were back in Washington watching via that drone-cam, cooly waiting for him, the ambassador and the other assets there present to die.
You people need to wake the hell up. Prepare for war. These people are killers and will stop at nothing until someone stops them.
Oh, and just for the sake of thoroughness, here is my koran burning, translated with Arabic subtitles by the Egyptian Copts all the way back in April of 2011. As of today it has 684,681 views, most of which are in Egypt and the Arabic-speaking Middle East, with the vast majority of those coming in 2011 and early 2012, LONG BEFORE the so-called "motive" video.
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Why am I not in prison? Why was I not blamed for inciting riots? Why have I never been contacted by the CIA, FBI, NSA, State Department, Department of Homeland Security or anyone else - except my local police department offering their support?
I highly suspect that the mohammed video was itself made at the behest of the Obama regime, thus making the whole Stevens assassination a giant false flag operation. The fact that Hillary was trotting the video out before the SEALs were even dead reinforces that hunch profoundly.
Great link with lots of sourcing here:
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/walid-showbat-innocence-of-muslims-film-was-made-by-terrorists/ (http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/walid-showbat-innocence-of-muslims-film-was-made-by-terrorists/)
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Don't know about that last part, maybe if they snuff the poor bastard they arrested it might prove a link...or it is possible he is 100% patsy and has no idea who helped fund his timely flick...but given everything we know about this Regime and how many outright Muzzies and Muzzie sympathizers are in key policy and security positions...yeah, the rest is obvious, it was a gun-running scheme, it was a snuff op on those in the know and it created opportunities to purge anti-statists from the upper echelon of the military. The Regime is running roughshod over everything and everyone and there is no opposition or controlling legal authority being allowed to stop them. They can do whatever the hell they want and suffer no ill for it. In fact, thanks to the lapdog media bed-wetting pubbies there is literally nobody standing in their way...and they can win elections too. Isn't democracy grand? Once voting laws gave ground we ceased being a republic, the nation we once knew was already dying well before most had a clue. The 21st century looks to be more despotic than the last...
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Rand trying to raise the issue, I can see Dingy Harry's eyes glazing over in mock disinterest...
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/senator-rand-paul-obama-administration-may-be-covering-up-middle-east-fast-furious-scandal/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/senator-rand-paul-obama-administration-may-be-covering-up-middle-east-fast-furious-scandal/)
Good luck with Cankles, she's had what, months to hone her bullsh*t?!
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Speaking of Cankles...
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7567.new.html (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7567.new.html)
Her harsh grilling is over and done with, clearing the way for her coronation as the next asshat in a succession of asshat presidents...
::mooning::
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It's all over some people just don't recognize it yet.
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Good God, she said she didn't like doing them and "appearing on Sunday talk shots is not something I do".
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Demons find it too easy to lie, remembering them all, that's another story...
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Well, well, well; apparently now we have a clue .....
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/rand-paul-was-right-us-was-sending-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-through-turkey-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/rand-paul-was-right-us-was-sending-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-through-turkey-video/)
"The New York Times reported today that the US has been sending “military aid” to the Syrian opposition for a year now.
With help from the C.I.A., Arab governments and Turkey have sharply increased their military aid to Syria’s opposition fighters in recent months, expanding a secret airlift of arms and equipment for the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, according to air traffic data, interviews with officials in several countries and the accounts of rebel commanders."
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Yeah, and the little Sandinista thingy with Reagan was touted by libiots as a massive breach of US law and generated a several million dollar investigation by Congress...this little gun-running op supporting Jihadi trash wanting to topple Assad...yeah, that passes muster, nothing to see here, all in a days work!
Our so-called leaders are ass-raping us all the way to Hell and we're just supposed to like it!
::gaah::
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If we had an investigative reporter in this country worth a flying sh*t this regime would fall for Benghazi.
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If we had an investigative reporter in this country worth a flying sh*t this regime would fall for Benghazi.
Out of all that we've had to endure over the past many decades, that is the one glaringly common denominator. We've had a so-called press that is scarcely any less of a shill for the regime than was Pravda in the USSR. And not just for the current administration, but going back at least as far as Wilson. They have consistently moved the ball down the field for the cause of Leftism.
If we had even 10% of them interested in actually investigating the conduct of government, without regard to its current ideological bent, we would be living in a dramatically different country right now.
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When the SHTF I will go out of my way to properly thank these assholes!