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Title: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 27, 2011, 09:06:37 PM
Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51985.html)

DES MOINES, Iowa — Michele Bachmann served up red meat to the crowd at the Iowa conservative principles conference Saturday, slamming President Barack Obama as a Jimmy Carter retread, dissing the Mitch Daniels "truce" call for social issues, and saying she wants a "waiver" from the last two years of White House leadership.

Talking loudly and waving her hands, a pumped Bachmann used a slide presentation of various numbers — the national debt, the cost of a gallon of gas two years ago the day before Obama took office, the corporate tax rate — to make her points and pull the crowd in.

Suggesting that Iowa caucus voters had the power to halt Obama, Bachmann wrapped up her speech by asking, "Are you in? are you in for 2012?"

"I agree with you!" she said as the crowd cheered, and added, "I'm in!"

The Minnesota firebrand gave the best-received speech of the potential 2012 hopefuls appearance at Rep. Steve King's conference [attended by Haley Barbour, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, John Bolton, and Michele Bachmann] and the crowd wildly applauded her brand of populism. It was a reminder that while Bachmann has been criticized for miscues in her public statements, there is a space for her to fill in the Iowa caucuses should she decide to jump into the race for the White House.

She called for a "fair tax" and said that the "current United States tax code is a weapon of mass destruction."

She also made reference to her own Iowa ties, noting she was born in Waterloo. “Isn’t it exciting to be here? There is no place like Iowa," she said. "We love it and it is wonderful to be in a state where you have the king of conservatism, Steve King!"

She added, "We’re a cage team match. In Washington D.C. we like to get in the same arena, we like to fight the same fights."

She then started firing up the crowd, saying, ”Does anyone remember the trillion dollar stimulus bill? Did President Obama correctly diagnose the problem with job creation. ..what’s his level of credibility on job creation?"

The crowd replied, "No!"

"Not so much, that’s right!" Bachmann said. "Iowans are very intelligent people, despite being extremely good-looking and very well tempered."

After a few other similar exchanges with the crowd, Bachmann invoked the president's failed Final Four predictions and said, "Now he’s got us engaged in another third middle eastern war? Talk about March Madness, can anyone say Jimmy Carter"

She also made a joke about Chinese President Hu and the national debt, saying "So we know now that Hu is your daddy."

And she drew massive boos from the crowd when she mentioned New York Democratic Rep. Anthony Weiner, who recently said he is looking into a waiver from the health care reform bill for New York City. She noted he said last year, as first reported by POLITICO, that "the bill and I are one."

"This is I believe the greatest power grab that I have ever seen," she said, comparing "this movie" to the fiscal crisis in Greece and adding, "It's not a pretty picture."

"The Constitution holds the answer. … We the people," she said. "We are the answer to the problem today in the United States because you need to be pushed back in charge of your own health care. ... The federal govt doesn’t have a clue how to create jobs. You do."

Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

Bachmann also was the lone candidate of the event at the time she spoke to mention an issue that's certain to be hot in the GOP primary - immigration - in her speech. She talked about miles of unprotected borders as part of her slide-show presentation.

And she addressed calls for a GOP truce on social issues, saying, "We’ve been told we need a truce on social issues and I would highly disagree with that because social conservatism is fiscal conservatism."

Bachmann invoked Abraham Lincoln as she said, "The idea of liberty is so great and yet so precious…the founders recognized it could only be entrusted to the brain trust [of voters].”

Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Predator Don on March 27, 2011, 09:39:47 PM
Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51985.html)

DES MOINES, Iowa — Michele Bachmann served up red meat to the crowd at the Iowa conservative principles conference Saturday, slamming President Barack Obama as a Jimmy Carter retread, dissing the Mitch Daniels "truce" call for social issues, and saying she wants a "waiver" from the last two years of White House leadership.

Talking loudly and waving her hands, a pumped Bachmann used a slide presentation of various numbers — the national debt, the cost of a gallon of gas two years ago the day before Obama took office, the corporate tax rate — to make her points and pull the crowd in.

Suggesting that Iowa caucus voters had the power to halt Obama, Bachmann wrapped up her speech by asking, "Are you in? are you in for 2012?"

"I agree with you!" she said as the crowd cheered, and added, "I'm in!"

The Minnesota firebrand gave the best-received speech of the potential 2012 hopefuls appearance at Rep. Steve King's conference [attended by Haley Barbour, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, John Bolton, and Michele Bachmann] and the crowd wildly applauded her brand of populism. It was a reminder that while Bachmann has been criticized for miscues in her public statements, there is a space for her to fill in the Iowa caucuses should she decide to jump into the race for the White House.

She called for a "fair tax" and said that the "current United States tax code is a weapon of mass destruction."

She also made reference to her own Iowa ties, noting she was born in Waterloo. “Isn’t it exciting to be here? There is no place like Iowa," she said. "We love it and it is wonderful to be in a state where you have the king of conservatism, Steve King!"

She added, "We’re a cage team match. In Washington D.C. we like to get in the same arena, we like to fight the same fights."

She then started firing up the crowd, saying, ”Does anyone remember the trillion dollar stimulus bill? Did President Obama correctly diagnose the problem with job creation. ..what’s his level of credibility on job creation?"

The crowd replied, "No!"

"Not so much, that’s right!" Bachmann said. "Iowans are very intelligent people, despite being extremely good-looking and very well tempered."

After a few other similar exchanges with the crowd, Bachmann invoked the president's failed Final Four predictions and said, "Now he’s got us engaged in another third middle eastern war? Talk about March Madness, can anyone say Jimmy Carter"

She also made a joke about Chinese President Hu and the national debt, saying "So we know now that Hu is your daddy."

And she drew massive boos from the crowd when she mentioned New York Democratic Rep. Anthony Weiner, who recently said he is looking into a waiver from the health care reform bill for New York City. She noted he said last year, as first reported by POLITICO, that "the bill and I are one."

"This is I believe the greatest power grab that I have ever seen," she said, comparing "this movie" to the fiscal crisis in Greece and adding, "It's not a pretty picture."

"The Constitution holds the answer. … We the people," she said. "We are the answer to the problem today in the United States because you need to be pushed back in charge of your own health care. ... The federal govt doesn’t have a clue how to create jobs. You do."

Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

Bachmann also was the lone candidate of the event at the time she spoke to mention an issue that's certain to be hot in the GOP primary - immigration - in her speech. She talked about miles of unprotected borders as part of her slide-show presentation.

And she addressed calls for a GOP truce on social issues, saying, "We’ve been told we need a truce on social issues and I would highly disagree with that because social conservatism is fiscal conservatism."

Bachmann invoked Abraham Lincoln as she said, "The idea of liberty is so great and yet so precious…the founders recognized it could only be entrusted to the brain trust [of voters].”



Thonk any of the other "potentials" were paying attention?
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Glock32 on March 27, 2011, 11:03:47 PM
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Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

He's a class act ain't he? I'd like to give him a Doc Marten dental plan.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: LadyVirginia on March 27, 2011, 11:12:00 PM

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Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

He's a class act ain't he? I'd like to give him a Doc Marten dental plan.

 ::hysterical::

Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 28, 2011, 12:09:04 AM
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Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

He's a class act ain't he? I'd like to give him a Doc Marten dental plan.

I love it when scumbags like weener sets the public tone. It will make gutting him like a fish even more pleasurable...
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: ToddF on March 28, 2011, 05:48:19 AM
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Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

Translated:

Me?  I'm too much of a pussy (dig that turtle neck?) to actually respond.  Girls scare me.

(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/anthony-weiner-high-school-photo-3609-1300988849-10.jpg)
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: warpmine on March 28, 2011, 06:21:47 AM
What's changed from then to now? Answer: Nothing! I don't know whether to be sick or on the floor laughing. Perhaps both! ::puke:: ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Glock32 on March 28, 2011, 10:31:19 AM
I had no idea he was in Welcome Back Kotter.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 28, 2011, 10:52:57 AM

Arnold Dingfelder Horshak


Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: radioman on March 28, 2011, 10:59:18 AM
I wonder if he is a ballet dancer like Rahm Emanuel?
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: John Florida on March 28, 2011, 11:03:06 AM
I wonder if he is a ballet dancer like Rahm Emanuel?

 No he's just your garden variety little dick. All mouth.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Libertas on March 28, 2011, 02:07:42 PM
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Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

Translated:

Me?  I'm too much of a pussy (dig that turtle neck?) to actually respond.  Girls scare me.

(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/anthony-weiner-high-school-photo-3609-1300988849-10.jpg)

What's the over-under on how many times this wuss got beat up?

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Glock32 on March 28, 2011, 02:14:33 PM
He looks like that old SNL character, "Pat".
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Libertas on March 28, 2011, 02:46:07 PM
He looks like that old SNL character, "Pat".

A hermaphrodite!  Perfect!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: ToddF on March 28, 2011, 03:37:10 PM
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Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

Translated:

Me?  I'm too much of a pussy (dig that turtle neck?) to actually respond.  Girls scare me.

(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/anthony-weiner-high-school-photo-3609-1300988849-10.jpg)

What's the over-under on how many times this wuss got beat up?

 ::hysterical::

by which gender?
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 28, 2011, 03:40:22 PM
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Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

Translated:

Me?  I'm too much of a pussy (dig that turtle neck?) to actually respond.  Girls scare me.

(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/anthony-weiner-high-school-photo-3609-1300988849-10.jpg)

What's the over-under on how many times this wuss got beat up?

 ::hysterical::

by which gender?

Trans.

 ::whoohoo:: ::rolllaughing:: ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: John Florida on March 28, 2011, 04:20:01 PM
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Weiner quickly responded, "Perhaps the best thing of the week. The Iowa tea posse stops brushing their tooth long enough to boo me."

Translated:

Me?  I'm too much of a pussy (dig that turtle neck?) to actually respond.  Girls scare me.

(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/anthony-weiner-high-school-photo-3609-1300988849-10.jpg)

What's the over-under on how many times this wuss got beat up?

 ::hysterical::

by which gender?

 Where I went to school he would have color on his cheeks every day of the week.And God help him if he went into the boys room between classes.Ant the girls room would not have been any better for him.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Predator Don on March 28, 2011, 04:24:43 PM
What a weiner. ::kissface::
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Glock32 on March 28, 2011, 07:30:07 PM
LOL, Moonbattery FTW...

(http://www.moonbattery.com/rachel-berry_anthony-weiner.jpg)
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Pandora on March 28, 2011, 08:33:20 PM
Heheheh.  Metroseckshul.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Glock32 on March 28, 2011, 08:39:02 PM
They could be sisters!
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: johnnycab23513 on March 29, 2011, 09:05:45 PM
I just listened to Rubio on Hannity. When asked about running for President or Vice President, he said no, that he would not be able to run and do a good job as Senator. He feels that Florida deserves a good Senator. I feel the same way about many of the great Representatives that are being talked about as possible candidates. If we are going to transition from this socialist mess to a good conservative government, we need the Bachmanns, Wests, etc right where they are to keep an eye on the wussies and train the incomming freshmen in both the House and Senate. By running and possibly loosing, they put an unneccessary black mark alongside their name. Although I feel it is quite early, I like the sound of Bolton/Palin as a team. He would bring respect back to the office. She could streighten out this energy mess Obama is creating, and learn a heck of alot about foreign policy fron The Stach. But leave our conservative office holders where they are. 
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: John Florida on March 29, 2011, 09:10:39 PM
Finally he speaks!!Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Pandora on March 29, 2011, 09:24:26 PM
Finally he speaks!!Welcome aboard.

Indeed!  Welcome to the mass of fellow-opinionated.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 29, 2011, 09:57:20 PM
I just listened to Rubio on Hannity. When asked about running for President or Vice President, he said no, that he would not be able to run and do a good job as Senator. He feels that Florida deserves a good Senator. I feel the same way about many of the great Representatives that are being talked about as possible candidates. If we are going to transition from this socialist mess to a good conservative government, we need the Bachmanns, Wests, etc right where they are to keep an eye on the wussies and train the incomming freshmen in both the House and Senate. By running and possibly loosing, they put an unneccessary black mark alongside their name...

I tend to agree with you Johnny. You may know from reading here that Bachmann is my rep, and the thought of losing her and placing our district in jeopardy is not pleasing. Just because she is one of the most effective conservative voices in the House doesn't mean her style and qualifications translate to national office, let alone to President. The "Peter Principle" is a real thing, and some people are perfect for the station they occupy. I'm not saying Bachmann or anyone else cannot or will not succeed in an attempt to achieve more, but when there are so many fresh new faces, and so many of them seem to be attractive for higher office, the possibility of losing altogether them becomes a consideration, and you can't know until they try.

Glad you've decided to jump in!
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: LadyVirginia on March 29, 2011, 10:42:33 PM
If we are going to transition from this socialist mess to a good conservative government, we need the Bachmanns, Wests, etc right where they are to keep an eye on the wussies and train the incomming freshmen in both the House and Senate. By running and possibly loosing, they put an unneccessary black mark alongside their name.

I agree. I'm tired of every time someone makes a splash the first question out is are you going to run for prez?

Having a good president and liberal control of local and state offices won't help us.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 29, 2011, 10:48:49 PM

Yes, the House, for Conservatives, is so fragile and adversarial and  Bachmann is the steel and the fire and the experience. She, going to the White House would be severe loss in the House.

Not forgetting Allen West, whose candidacy would be premature. His candidacy would not be without precedent although  the previous military man to go straight to the White House had a higher, (Supreme Commander of the Allied forces in Europe), pay grade.

Rubio? I worry about him.  He did and excellent campaign and made so solid speaches but I want to see more action before any consideration.
At this moment he is a question mark.

It is a little early but that "Great Conservative Candidate" has not presented himself.  I fear for that and also when he does there will not be a place on the dais for him.  That it will be filled with re-tard, re-treads placed there by the GOP who will laud our middling leadership worms their great efforts.


the captain of the Titanic made great efforts until the very moment it slid into the abyss.


Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Pandora on March 29, 2011, 10:55:28 PM
Some keep looking for the conservative "messiah", waiting to seize upon what appears to be the most likely candidate.  There is not and will not be such a conservative; if one presents him or her self as such, they must be spurned.  Learn the "obama lesson".

The leader we seek will present at the proper time and most will not even recognize that person as such when that time comes.  Even though, in this I have faith that there is A Plan.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: John Florida on March 29, 2011, 11:19:10 PM
Running West or Rubio right now would be like racing a horse before he's old enough. If they lose they are comdened to the house for ever. Let them do their thing for a while and run them when they have a record to run on that will overcome any nonsense that gets dug up later.

  We already have a no experience having idiot in the WH lets not do it again. Let the idiot be theirs we want solid.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 29, 2011, 11:23:43 PM

You're right.

I have fantasies of Rick Perry and Sarah Palin. 

Rick is on the cover of National Review and the promo says he is everything the liberals thought Bush was.  One can pray.

Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: John Florida on March 29, 2011, 11:30:22 PM

You're right.

I have fantasies of Rick Perry and Sarah Palin. 

Rick is on the cover of National Review and the promo says he is everything the liberals thought Bush was.  One can pray.



 Barbour has attracted me for some strange reason. Maybe because of the way he handled his state after Katrina has a lot to do with it.And he seems to be a smart old dude. I'm ready for smart old(experienced) at this point. This young and energetic has me worn out,

 It's more like young and dumb.Dosn't know Jack Shyt.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 29, 2011, 11:45:03 PM

My first post at PL was an endorsement of Barbour. I've always liked him.
He's tough and smart.  There was a recent kerfuffle about some seemingly wishy statement he made. I think he was tickling the moderates. 

Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: John Florida on March 30, 2011, 12:20:41 AM

My first post at PL was an endorsement of Barbour. I've always liked him.
He's tough and smart.  There was a recent kerfuffle about some seemingly wishy statement he made. I think he was tickling the moderates. 



 I don't think he has wife and girlfriend problems either  all the dirt that's fit to print is out there already.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: Glock32 on March 30, 2011, 12:21:24 PM
What about John Bolton? I'm interested in this possibility. We'd be hard pressed to find someone with more foreign policy bonafides. I don't know much about his positions on economic/domestic issues yet, but he was a Barry Goldwater supporter from way back. Good credentials so far.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 30, 2011, 12:31:26 PM
What about John Bolton? I'm interested in this possibility. We'd be hard pressed to find someone with more foreign policy bonafides. I don't know much about his positions on economic/domestic issues yet, but he was a Barry Goldwater supporter from way back. Good credentials so far.

He's a smart guy, and I'd support him, but he's pretty neo-connish in a military adventurism sort of way.
Title: Re: Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 30, 2011, 09:28:28 PM

There will be impetus for management/administrative skills.
It will either be a governor or a general officer. Or someone who
beats those two in the debates.