It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Economy => Topic started by: Libertas on March 29, 2011, 12:24:34 PM
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Don't they believe the Fed, the Treasury Dept, the BLS, Duh Wun?!
http://washingtonexaminer.com/news/nation/2011/03/inflation-worries-push-consumer-confidence-lower# (http://washingtonexaminer.com/news/nation/2011/03/inflation-worries-push-consumer-confidence-lower#)
Gas...food...the little people obsess over such trivial matters!
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B-b-b-but a big-screen TV ........
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Went grocery shopping yesterday, produce is 50 to 75% more expensive than this time last year. They are also pricing many vegetables per each price instead of per pound.
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Went grocery shopping yesterday, produce is 50 to 75% more expensive than this time last year. They are also pricing many vegetables per each price instead of per pound.
I know. California is not allowed to farm and Mexico had a weather-wipeout. *sigh* And JF's wondering why I'd love a two acre "garden". ;)
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Went grocery shopping yesterday, produce is 50 to 75% more expensive than this time last year. They are also pricing many vegetables per each price instead of per pound.
I know. California is not allowed to farm and Mexico had a weather-wipeout. *sigh* And JF's wondering why I'd love a two acre "garden". ;)
God, and I get worn out tending to a four-meter garden
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Went grocery shopping yesterday, produce is 50 to 75% more expensive than this time last year. They are also pricing many vegetables per each price instead of per pound.
I know. California is not allowed to farm and Mexico had a weather-wipeout. *sigh* And JF's wondering why I'd love a two acre "garden". ;)
::kissface::
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Went grocery shopping yesterday, produce is 50 to 75% more expensive than this time last year. They are also pricing many vegetables per each price instead of per pound.
I know. California is not allowed to farm and Mexico had a weather-wipeout. *sigh* And JF's wondering why I'd love a two acre "garden". ;)
God, and I get worn out tending to a four-meter garden
Would just need bigger, motorized tools, Soup, I figger.
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Went grocery shopping yesterday, produce is 50 to 75% more expensive than this time last year. They are also pricing many vegetables per each price instead of per pound.
I know. California is not allowed to farm and Mexico had a weather-wipeout. *sigh* And JF's wondering why I'd love a two acre "garden". ;)
God, and I get worn out tending to a four-meter garden
Would just need bigger, motorized tools, Soup, I figger.
Sutch as?
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Went grocery shopping yesterday, produce is 50 to 75% more expensive than this time last year. They are also pricing many vegetables per each price instead of per pound.
I know. California is not allowed to farm and Mexico had a weather-wipeout. *sigh* And JF's wondering why I'd love a two acre "garden". ;)
God, and I get worn out tending to a four-meter garden
Would just need bigger, motorized tools, Soup, I figger.
Sutch as?
Tractor, for one. Whadda I gotta teach you everyt'ing? ::exitstageleft::
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Went grocery shopping yesterday, produce is 50 to 75% more expensive than this time last year. They are also pricing many vegetables per each price instead of per pound.
I know. California is not allowed to farm and Mexico had a weather-wipeout. *sigh* And JF's wondering why I'd love a two acre "garden". ;)
God, and I get worn out tending to a four-meter garden
Would just need bigger, motorized tools, Soup, I figger.
Sutch as?
Tractor, for one. Whadda I gotta teach you everyt'ing? ::exitstageleft::
How big? ::saywhat::
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What the hell do I know, how big? Big ENOUGH! And if I had two acres to plant, I'd know. Right now, I don't need to know. Ass pain. ::slapfight::
Seriously, how big you think? Big enough to stick a grader on it, too, I'd assume.
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What the hell do I know, how big? Big ENOUGH! And if I had two acres to plant, I'd know. Right now, I don't need to know. Ass pain. ::slapfight::
Seriously, how big you think? Big enough to stick a grader on it, too, I'd assume.
(http://[url=http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/511120_lg.jpg]http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/511120_lg.jpg[/url])
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200445933_200445933 (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200445933_200445933)
Plus attachments. With the three point hitch you could probably buy a lot of used attachments if you wanted to. This is just an example.
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What the hell do I know, how big? Big ENOUGH! And if I had two acres to plant, I'd know. Right now, I don't need to know. Ass pain. ::slapfight::
Seriously, how big you think? Big enough to stick a grader on it, too, I'd assume.
(http://[url=http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/511120_lg.jpg]http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/511120_lg.jpg[/url])
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200445933_200445933 (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200445933_200445933)
Plus attachments. With the three point hitch you could probably buy a lot of used attachments if you wanted to. This is just an example.
That looks about right, but I'd be damned if I'd pay 8 grand + for new, when I see 'em sitting out around these parts for a lot less.
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http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200311181_200311181
(http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/256001_lg.jpg)
Saw a similar one for around 4. Don't remember where.
It's very similar to a real disc. If it works it would be cheaper than a tiller which appears to be expensive to maintain.
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What the hell do I know, how big? Big ENOUGH! And if I had two acres to plant, I'd know. Right now, I don't need to know. Ass pain. ::slapfight::
Seriously, how big you think? Big enough to stick a grader on it, too, I'd assume.
(http://[url=http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/511120_lg.jpg]http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/511120_lg.jpg[/url])
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200445933_200445933 (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200445933_200445933)
Plus attachments. With the three point hitch you could probably buy a lot of used attachments if you wanted to. This is just an example.
That looks about right, but I'd be damned if I'd pay 8 grand + for new, when I see 'em sitting out around these parts for a lot less.
It's just an example. But that's big enough for a couple of acres and then some. Big enough to run a lot of attachments too.Has a nice power take off to run a lot of things even log splitter or a generator post hole digger and so on.
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The discs are nice but it's not the end because you now have to grade and make the beds. The tiller is att in one shot.
(http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/188132_med.gif)
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&N=0&No=48&Ntt=roto (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&N=0&No=48&Ntt=roto) tiller&D=roto tiller&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Dx=mode+matchallpartial
Pay a local to low it up for the first time and then use the tiller from then on.
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Can you pull that with a lawn tractor?
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*sigh* Tools and equipment make mah heart go pitter-pat.
I am a weird sort of female person, nu?
With all the talk of how little the dollar will be worth shortly, I'm plotzing about a place to put some of ours. Land seems right; I just am unsure of where, but land nearby for growing would be a priority requirement.
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Can you pull that with a lawn tractor?
Nope works off a 540 rpm power take off. Doesn't have a motor.
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*sigh* Tools and equipment make mah heart go pitter-pat.
I am a weird sort of female person, nu?
With all the talk of how little the dollar will be worth shortly, I'm plotzing about a place to put some of ours. Land seems right; I just am unsure of where, but land nearby for growing would be a priority requirement.
You have enough to grow veggies on to the point that I know you can't possibly eat them all. If you want more land look for grazing land. Live stock,beef pork chickens you can do by you and rabbits for that matter can all happen on two acres and they can be used in the garden too.
I'm not big on the beef stuff cause it takes too much room but small stuff I like even meat goats would work on brushy land if anything they clean out the brush for you and when they get ready to roast bring them in and fatten them up on grain and all the garden waste.
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*sigh* Tools and equipment make mah heart go pitter-pat.
Not that big a step from sewing/cooking to the shop. It's just non traditional. You know, "get the hell out of my kitchen", I've heard that anyway.
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*sigh* Tools and equipment make mah heart go pitter-pat.
Not that big a step from sewing/cooking to the shop. It's just non traditional. You know, "get the hell out of my kitchen", I've heard that anyway.
It's all fun till it's the job.
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*sigh* Tools and equipment make mah heart go pitter-pat.
I am a weird sort of female person, nu?
With all the talk of how little the dollar will be worth shortly, I'm plotzing about a place to put some of ours. Land seems right; I just am unsure of where, but land nearby for growing would be a priority requirement.
You have enough to grow veggies on to the point that I know you can't possibly eat them all. If you want more land look for grazing land. Live stock,beef pork chickens you can do by you and rabbits for that matter can all happen on two acres and they can be used in the garden too.
I'm not big on the beef stuff cause it takes too much room but small stuff I like even meat goats would work on brushy land if anything they clean out the brush for you and when they get ready to roast bring them in and fatten them up on grain and all the garden waste.
Not really. I mentioned the property is heavily wooded, thus shaded, and the trees stay for now. Gunsmith spent a few days checking out the most likely spot for the raised bed in the back as far as available sunlight goes. If we could grow more, I'd can, dehydrate and freeze.
Chickens and rabbits seem plausible enough for two former city-idiots, though.
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*sigh* Tools and equipment make mah heart go pitter-pat.
I am a weird sort of female person, nu?
With all the talk of how little the dollar will be worth shortly, I'm plotzing about a place to put some of ours. Land seems right; I just am unsure of where, but land nearby for growing would be a priority requirement.
You have enough to grow veggies on to the point that I know you can't possibly eat them all. If you want more land look for grazing land. Live stock,beef pork chickens you can do by you and rabbits for that matter can all happen on two acres and they can be used in the garden too.
I'm not big on the beef stuff cause it takes too much room but small stuff I like even meat goats would work on brushy land if anything they clean out the brush for you and when they get ready to roast bring them in and fatten them up on grain and all the garden waste.
Not really. I mentioned the property is heavily wooded, thus shaded, and the trees stay for now. Gunsmith spent a few days checking out the most likely spot for the raised bed in the back as far as available sunlight goes. If we could grow more, I'd can, dehydrate and freeze.
Chickens and rabbits seem plausible enough for two former city-idiots, though.
Not as hard as you might think. Very little research involved.Housing is basic but you do want them to inside at night so you're not feeding the local critters.And get a dog.Most of the research can be done on Utube.
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I'm not big on the beef stuff cause it takes too much room but small stuff I like even meat goats would work on brushy land if anything they clean out the brush for you and when they get ready to roast bring them in and fatten them up on grain and all the garden waste.
Yes, goats and rabbits can't gore, trample, or crush you up against a fence or other solid object. Cattle people will tell you, 'turn 'em out, let 'em breed, fatten 'em up and sell 'em', that's easy for them to say they've been doing it since they were ten. All you need to do it watch cattlemen vet them; the chutes, the catch to hold them. It's expensive and difficult work and cows aren't pets.
Rabbits, per pound have more protein than any other meat.
Goats pretty much take care of themselves and as JF said, clear the brush. Sheep cut your grass.
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I'm not big on the beef stuff cause it takes too much room but small stuff I like even meat goats would work on brushy land if anything they clean out the brush for you and when they get ready to roast bring them in and fatten them up on grain and all the garden waste.
Yes, goats and rabbits can't gore, trample, or crush you up against a fence or other solid object. Cattle people will tell you, 'turn 'em out, let 'em breed, fatten 'em up and sell 'em', that's easy for them to say they've been doing it since they were ten. All you need to do it watch cattlemen vet them; the chutes, the catch to hold them. It's expensive and difficult work and cows aren't pets.
Rabbits, per pound have more protein than any other meat.
Goats pretty much take care of themselves and as JF said, clear the brush. Sheep cut your grass.
Sheep have other issues like wool that has to be dealt with and have to be tended More than goats. Goats will eat anything they get their teeth into Which is great id you have a large garden because the will eat anything but don't let them get into night shade plant family.
Other than that it's the fastest compost generator money can buy.Rabbits done right will keep you in meat all year long.Less work than checkens too.
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Rabbits sound easier to raise (my BIL did it growing up) and sound tastier to me than sheep or goats and I can use their fur, although a goat for milk sounds good and they are multipurpose disposals!
ETA - The Farmers take over another thread! ::rolllaughing::
(No complaints, just a comment!) ;D
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Rabbits sound easier to raise (my BIL did it growing up) and sound tastier to me than sheep or goats and I can use their fur, although a goat for milk sounds good and they are multipurpose disposals!
ETA - The Farmers take over another thread! ::rolllaughing::
(No complaints, just a comment!) ;D
Goats don't smell like sheep and the milk can be used for making cheeses that the lactose intolerant can eat and also drink the milk. And is also healthy meat low in fat and cholesterol.Asa a matter of fact it was re comended to my Father by his MD.
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Rabbits sound easier to raise (my BIL did it growing up) and sound tastier to me than sheep or goats and I can use their fur, although a goat for milk sounds good and they are multipurpose disposals!
ETA - The Farmers take over another thread! ::rolllaughing::
(No complaints, just a comment!) ;D
Goats don't smell like sheep and the milk can be used for making cheeses that the lactose intolerant can eat and also drink the milk. And is also healthy meat low in fat and cholesterol.Asa a matter of fact it was re comended to my Father by his MD.
I thought of cheese too! A life without cheese?! ::speechless:: Unthinkable!
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Rabbits sound easier to raise (my BIL did it growing up) and sound tastier to me than sheep or goats and I can use their fur, although a goat for milk sounds good and they are multipurpose disposals!
ETA - The Farmers take over another thread! ::rolllaughing::
(No complaints, just a comment!) ;D
Goats don't smell like sheep and the milk can be used for making cheeses that the lactose intolerant can eat and also drink the milk. And is also healthy meat low in fat and cholesterol.Asa a matter of fact it was re comended to my Father by his MD.
I thought of cheese too! A life without cheese?! ::speechless:: Unthinkable!
That ^^. Unthinkable! Need, need, need da cheez.
Look here (http://www.offthegridnews.com/2011/01/20/the-real-other-white-meat/) at this piece on rabbits as food; it came from the same site as the "yeast" piece.
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Isn't there something potentially risky about cleaning rabbit meat properly, like "rabbit fever" or something? I just remember a family story about my grandfather nearly dying from it back in the 40s or 50s.
I might look into aquaculture. I figure I could pen a section of a nearby flowing stream and raise trout in it. During the summer they'd get fattened up mostly on their own just from eating bugs.
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Isn't there something potentially risky about cleaning rabbit meat properly, like "rabbit fever" or something? I just remember a family story about my grandfather nearly dying from it back in the 40s or 50s.
I might look into aquaculture. I figure I could pen a section of a nearby flowing stream and raise trout in it. During the summer they'd get fattened up mostly on their own just from eating bugs.
I have eaten rabbit all my life wild and domestic and never had a problem. The big thing like any meat is proper handling and hygiene.
My favorite dish for rabbit includes green olives and mint and wine vinegar(which I make at home)
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Oh, I knew there were more good links on that site, just haven't had a lot of time to explore it. Thanks Pan.
Mmm, wabbits! ::thumbsup::