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Topics => 2nd Amendment/Firearms => Topic started by: AmericanPatriot on February 15, 2013, 08:29:58 PM
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Checked with the local gun shop today about a Hi Point pistol today.
He sold the last 40 and 9mm last Saturday just before I got there.
Left my number for him to call when he picked up some more
When I called him, he had a 45 but no 40
Would you get that one while the getting is good or wait for a 40?
Ammo is a little cheaper for the 40, but in my head, the 45 is more certain of results if you hit something
Any thoughts?
I'm thinking of heading up in the AM to get the 45
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The Hi Point is such an inexpensive gun that I don't see any problem with taking the 45 now and getting something else later.
If you want a 40, I can probably find one where I live but it will not be a Hi Point. I personally favor the 40 because of the high capacity mags. I just like having 16 or so rounds in the gun at a time and for that I am willing to sacrifice the slightly better knock down capability of the 45.
One of these days I will get a 1911 in 45 but it will be a while. Right now I have other spending priorities when it comes to firearms...namely, acquiring a few more thousand rounds of the ammunition that I use. And customizing my AR15. And building an AK47. After that I will get the 1911.
But like I said, if you want a 40 and can pay the higher price of a non-Hi Point pistol I can almost certainly find one in my area so let me know if I can help in that regard.
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The Hi Point is such an inexpensive gun that I don't see any problem with taking the 45 now and getting something else later.
If you want a 40, I can probably find one where I live but it will not be a Hi Point. I personally favor the 40 because of the high capacity mags. I just like having 16 or so rounds in the gun at a time and for that I am willing to sacrifice the slightly better knock down capability of the 45.
One of these days I will get a 1911 in 45 but it will be a while. Right now I have other spending priorities when it comes to firearms...namely, acquiring a few more thousand rounds of the ammunition that I use. And customizing my AR15. And building an AK47. After that I will get the 1911.
But like I said, if you want a 40 and can pay the higher price of a non-Hi Point pistol I can almost certainly find one in my area so let me know if I can help in that regard.
Good advice, buy it TODAY
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Definitely, get the 45 while you can. 45 has been planting bad guys since 1905, its track record is no way in doubt!
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Thanks everyone and, especially, Libertas for the generous offer.
I was thinking the bird in the hand was worth going for
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Thanks everyone and, especially, Libertas for the generous offer.
I was thinking the bird in the hand was worth going for
I'm guessing you meant me and you are welcome. Yep, go for it. I'm also guessing that pistol is just under $200. (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7546.0.html) Cheap and not a particularly elegant weapon but still effective and that's what counts.
Some unsolicited advice:
I would probably break it in with quite a few practice rounds to boost my confidence in the gun and also to become very familiar with how it operates. And then the usual stuff...field strip and clean. And then repeat. A lot.
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Not too much; ammo's hard to come by.
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I apologize Trap
Thank you
The 45 is $175
I'm sorry, Pan but I didn't understand
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She's saying that you shouldn't practice too much because of the rising price of ammo. And it is a shame and a disgrace that this is true.
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The scarcity of ammo has kept me from the range for weeks. I don't want to deplete my ammunition now only to find out later that it's unavailable.
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She's saying that you shouldn't practice too much because of the rising price of ammo. And it is a shame and a disgrace that this is true.
Yes, on both counts. Sorry I wasn't clearer, AP.
The scarcity of ammo has kept me from the range for weeks. I don't want to deplete my ammunition now only to find out later that it's unavailable.
Again, precisely. However, it's gotten so after a couple/three mags and I'm making good groups where I want 'em, I get bored, so range-time has been an abbreviated experience.
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...it's gotten so after a couple/three mags and I'm making good groups where I want 'em...
Speaking of good groups... Mrs. IDP has a Ruger Mark III .22LR target pistol. Anybody else have experience with that gun?
It's clunky, barrel-heavy, PITA to disassemble and even more of a PITA to reassemble, and definitely not for concealment, but man, what a smooth shooting gun. It has almost no noticeable recoil at all, as the heavy barrel keeps things so perfectly balanced. On several occasions I've put 10 rounds inside the bullseye at 21 feet, and Mrs. IDP has done so a time or two as well. That gun makes me feel like a dead-eye.
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Wonder if the Browning Buckmark is any less a PITA? Have no experience with either one though.
Can you shoot subsonic rounds through those? Might make a nicer discrete option for certain applications.
Anyway, expect to see a lot of HiPoints, going out to the local gun show, see if any catches my eye. . .
PS-Ditto on .45 comments.
Haven't got a 1911 yet, maybe I'll find a nice one at the show. :supercool:
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I have a Browning Buckmark and it is pretty easy to maintain. It's a fun pistol to shoot. It will function with subsonic rounds but they're still pretty loud out of a pistol. Out of a rifle they're noticeably quieter.
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I grabbed the 45 today.
Told him to call me as soon as he gets a 9mm Hi Point
They had a real nice little Ruger 380
Thought a little bit about it but passed today
I have to work this into the system.
Wife won't approve
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Good on you AP.
As for rounds, acquire a stockpile, when you practice buy what they have at the range even if it is more expensive, that way your stash stays intact. (Or buy a bulk order of range shots when they are available and draw from it, whatever you have to do)
Didn't see much at the gun show for 1911's, couple anniversary issues with a premium, nothing like a Rem R1 or anything, might have to get that elsewhere. Would like to get one without filing out more paperwork but the bastages know me well enough by now. Got a leather holster for the G21, it will do in a pinch till I find something better. It was too crowded, I miss the old days where I could roam the aisles unmolested and not feeling like a salmon off to spawn (or in my case just die)...
::)
Oh well, got my carcass out of the house for a couple hours anyway.
Time to hit the garage, fire up the space heater and stereo and light up a Fuente and suck down some Shiner bock.
All in all not a bad day. ;D
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...it's gotten so after a couple/three mags and I'm making good groups where I want 'em...
Speaking of good groups... Mrs. IDP has a Ruger Mark III .22LR target pistol. Anybody else have experience with that gun?
It's clunky, barrel-heavy, PITA to disassemble and even more of a PITA to reassemble, and definitely not for concealment, but man, what a smooth shooting gun. It has almost no noticeable recoil at all, as the heavy barrel keeps things so perfectly balanced. On several occasions I've put 10 rounds inside the bullseye at 21 feet, and Mrs. IDP has done so a time or two as well. That gun makes me feel like a dead-eye.
I HAD a stainless one with a 6" barrel. Loved it. Once you take it apart and learn the intricacies of re-assembly, it's not bad. My problem was the time between shoots, I forgot them.
I spent 30 minutes at the range one day trying to mine and my son's back together. Gave up and came home. Got them both together in less than 5 minutes at home. ::bashing::
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I grabbed the 45 today.
Told him to call me as soon as he gets a 9mm Hi Point
They had a real nice little Ruger 380
Thought a little bit about it but passed today
I have to work this into the system.
Wife won't approve
*sigh* I need a better carry gun and that's the one I want. But without paper.
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*sigh* I need a better carry gun and that's the one I want. But without paper.
Me too.
I have been really, really reluctant to buy a gun.
As deficient as my "arsenal" is (was, before the horrible boating accident), it was like a mexican in California.
Undocumented.
I am now a blip on the radar.
I would be nervous about it, but have considered the possibility of finding an undocumented untraceable one
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Maybe we can work some kinda trade? ::whatgives::
Somebody find me a 1911, I find somebody something else, if we can't avoid the paper maybe muck it up a bit.
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I grabbed the 45 today.
Told him to call me as soon as he gets a 9mm Hi Point
They had a real nice little Ruger 380
Thought a little bit about it but passed today
I have to work this into the system.
Wife won't approve
*sigh* I need a better carry gun and that's the one I want. But without paper.
I'm thinking about selling my wife's Ruger 380. I bought one for both of us 4 years ago and she doesn't want hers. I don't know why. She would rather have a .357. I'm trying to find the perfect one for her. No luck yet. I also don't want to spend an arm and a leg for it.
I know you get what you pay for. However that 380 is really light weight and you can manhadle it if you want. My wife wants ot be dainty with the 380. I keep telling her to treat it like the Colt 1911 we used to shoot. I love the 380 it is light and easy to conceal. My wife only put 6 rounds through hers. Since then we have only shot mine.
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Where you at?
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I'd get both, a 40 and a 45.
If I could find someplace they still have them......ammo where I am is non-existent.
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If you don't have any luck finding the Ruger .380, look for a Bersa Thunder and see how that feels. I consider it one of the very best values out there, and it's a nice shooter with a size and feel much like a Walther PPK. I'm pretty sure Libertas has also mentioned having one and shares this opinion.
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This is great feedback
Thanks
BTW, I ordered the 18" barrel from Cabelas for the Mossberg.
Gun shop convinced me that it was a great deal
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If you don't have any luck finding the Ruger .380, look for a Bersa Thunder and see how that feels. I consider it one of the very best values out there, and it's a nice shooter with a size and feel much like a Walther PPK. I'm pretty sure Libertas has also mentioned having one and shares this opinion.
Yes, I have one, my father, my BIL. A lot of times you let a gal shoot it, they'll want one too. It is very controllable and super easy to maintain. Some with weaker fingers like my father (age/arthritis) can find loading the magazines a bit tough, but all you need to do in that case is get a Baby Uplula and problem solved. For warmer weather carry I like just stuffing it in a little Uncle Mikes and tuck it my pants in a roughly crossdraw position. I know they had been going like hotcakes so might be a bit of a challenge to find in some parts.
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Where you at?
Minneapolis area.
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Thanks
Little far to travel to make an exchange
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If you don't have any luck finding the Ruger .380, look for a Bersa Thunder and see how that feels. I consider it one of the very best values out there, and it's a nice shooter with a size and feel much like a Walther PPK. I'm pretty sure Libertas has also mentioned having one and shares this opinion.
Yes, I have one, my father, my BIL. A lot of times you let a gal shoot it, they'll want one too. It is very controllable and super easy to maintain. Some with weaker fingers like my father (age/arthritis) can find loading the magazines a bit tough, but all you need to do in that case is get a Baby Uplula and problem solved. For warmer weather carry I like just stuffing it in a little Uncle Mikes and tuck it my pants in a roughly crossdraw position. I know they had been going like hotcakes so might be a bit of a challenge to find in some parts.
They are great little pistols! And +1 on the Uplula mag loader. I recommend them highly. What is your load of choice in the Bersa? Mine is stuffed with Hornady Critical Defense. I also use Speer Gold Dot at times.
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If you don't have any luck finding the Ruger .380, look for a Bersa Thunder and see how that feels. I consider it one of the very best values out there, and it's a nice shooter with a size and feel much like a Walther PPK. I'm pretty sure Libertas has also mentioned having one and shares this opinion.
Yes, I have one, my father, my BIL. A lot of times you let a gal shoot it, they'll want one too. It is very controllable and super easy to maintain. Some with weaker fingers like my father (age/arthritis) can find loading the magazines a bit tough, but all you need to do in that case is get a Baby Uplula and problem solved. For warmer weather carry I like just stuffing it in a little Uncle Mikes and tuck it my pants in a roughly crossdraw position. I know they had been going like hotcakes so might be a bit of a challenge to find in some parts.
They are great little pistols! And +1 on the Uplula mag loader. I recommend them highly. What is your load of choice in the Bersa? Mine is stuffed with Hornady Critical Defense. I also use Speer Gold Dot at times.
Yes, Hornady CD. I have some TAP & Custom too and some Speer GD, but CD is in the mags right now. I can nail a target pretty fast & quick with that bugger, its just a solid platform.
::thumbsup::
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I went shooting today with the intent of chronographing some 9mm Speer Gold Dot 115 grain +P+ that I recently acquired. It has an advertised velocity of 1350 fps, which is nudging close to 357 SIG territory. I did shoot it, and it's definitely a hot 9mm, but no chrono or serious target work was in the cards. It's been 15 degrees all day and very blustery. I fulfilled today's profanity quota on the wind constantly ripping targets down and knocking over stuff.
But it was not a total loss. I at least confirmed that my recently repaired Glock 17 is functioning normal, and I fired off a 30 round mag from my AK-74 in a toast to Senator Feinswine.
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That'll work! ::thumbsup::
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I went shooting today with the intent of chronographing some 9mm Speer Gold Dot 115 grain +P+ that I recently acquired. It has an advertised velocity of 1350 fps, which is nudging close to 357 SIG territory. I did shoot it, and it's definitely a hot 9mm, but no chrono or serious target work was in the cards. It's been 15 degrees all day and very blustery. I fulfilled today's profanity quota on the wind constantly ripping targets down and knocking over stuff.
But it was not a total loss. I at least confirmed that my recently repaired Glock 17 is functioning normal, and I fired off a 30 round mag from my AK-74 in a toast to Senator Feinswine.
I got tired of constantly going over my limit so I recently upgraded to the unlimited profanity plan ::laughonfloor::
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Last weds I took the wife shooting and we burned through 350 rounds of 9mm(sig) that a friend was kind enough to give me(he reloads and is sitting on approx 10k rounds in that alone). Next weds she goes for her class and then getsa her permit. The gub she like because of the size of the grip is a Bersa Thunder the caliber is up for grabs but come hell or high water she's getting a 380.
I got lucky and managed to get my .40 ammo count up to 1250 rounds,I still have 250 rounds in 9mm. From what's being said at the grouchies ammo seems to be loosening up little by little,and one guy found .223 for .60 cents a round at walmart,it's been as high as 1.70 a round.
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I have .40 in my kit, simply b/c, the way my house is laid out, I have to worry about over-penetration 'cuz the kids would likely be down-range under some circumstances.
.40s&w is capable, with a proper load, but .45acp will always get the job done the first time.
.22lr, in a semi-auto pistol, is a fine choice. Small recoil allows for multiple follow-up shots in a small area, like in the trachea or eye socket in rapid succession, and that will stop any body.
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I got the 45 version as an afterthought on a trade. The effing thing refuses to misfire, jam, or malfunction. I whipped up a wire stock ( we can in Canada) and it shoots rather consistently to point of aim... now personally I think its an ugly thing, but it works well, and its .45, my go to caliber.. I bought a couple of spare mags and drag the thing out about 3- 4 times a year for fun shooting.. functional, consistent, accurate, can't ask for more..
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I got the 45 version as an afterthought on a trade. The effing thing refuses to misfire, jam, or malfunction. I whipped up a wire stock ( we can in Canada) and it shoots rather consistently to point of aim... now personally I think its an ugly thing, but it works well, and its .45, my go to caliber.. I bought a couple of spare mags and drag the thing out about 3- 4 times a year for fun shooting.. functional, consistent, accurate, can't ask for more..
Get a room! ::unknowncomic::
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I got the 45 version as an afterthought on a trade. The effing thing refuses to misfire, jam, or malfunction. I whipped up a wire stock ( we can in Canada) and it shoots rather consistently to point of aim... now personally I think its an ugly thing, but it works well, and its .45, my go to caliber.. I bought a couple of spare mags and drag the thing out about 3- 4 times a year for fun shooting.. functional, consistent, accurate, can't ask for more..
Get a room! ::unknowncomic::
Snicker, it did sound a bit off, didn't it.. ::hat-tip::
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::hysterical::
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I got the 45 version as an afterthought on a trade. The effing thing refuses to misfire, jam, or malfunction. I whipped up a wire stock ( we can in Canada) and it shoots rather consistently to point of aim... now personally I think its an ugly thing, but it works well, and its .45, my go to caliber.. I bought a couple of spare mags and drag the thing out about 3- 4 times a year for fun shooting.. functional, consistent, accurate, can't ask for more..
Get a room! ::unknowncomic::
Snicker, it did sound a bit off, didn't it.. ::hat-tip::
No worries but I just got a picture of somebody needing to use protection when alone with a weapon. ::exitstageleft::
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Happiness is a warm gun
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Well, if it only comes out 3-4 times a year. . .I mean, give the poor guy a break!
;D