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Topics => World/Foreign Affairs => Topic started by: pisskop on February 16, 2013, 12:49:20 PM

Title: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: pisskop on February 16, 2013, 12:49:20 PM
Eh?  Just a thought, but how would a larger meteor strike affect us if it hit the heartland?  Or the ocean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HMBm7W2ndls# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HMBm7W2ndls#)!
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Glock32 on February 16, 2013, 01:26:25 PM
This was smaller than the 1908 event (also in Siberia, oddly enough) though in that event trees were flattened for several hundred square miles and supposedly shockwaves were felt as far away as London. So a similar event would be the equivalent of a large nuclear detonation and could easily kill millions if it hit a densely populated area. An ocean impact would probably generate tsunami in whatever ocean basin was hit.

It seems the recent Russian meteorite was space rock rather than metallic. Rock has pockets of gas trapped in it, and the gas gets superheated by atmospheric entry causing the rock to explode into smaller chunks. This made it less damaging than it could have otherwise been. A metallic meteorite of that size might have remained intact until ground impact.

I'd actually been wondering about this asteroid that was approaching us. I knew asteroids were often not a single body but sometimes loose aggregations of "gravel" basically. Whatever originally kicked this thing out of the asteroid belt quite possibly broke some big chunks off of it. Since they followed the same general trajectory, I would guess it was some of these smaller companion pieces that fell into Earth's gravity well during the close approach.
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2013, 01:37:12 PM
The 1908 event I believe was so devastating over such a large are because it was like an airburst, like the biggest shotgun blast ever.  This one left a crater so there had to be something substantial in its composition, enough dense material like iron to survive the atmosphere but small enough to not create a super-massive crater, could have been a chunk of iron no bigger than a brick.  And I think your companion theory may be right, the asteroid belt is one big shooting gallery, all you need is one thing to ding another and its a pinball effect.
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Glock32 on February 16, 2013, 01:47:22 PM
The 1908 event I believe was so devastating over such a large are because it was like an airburst, like the biggest shotgun blast ever.  This one left a crater so there had to be something substantial in its composition, enough dense material like iron to survive the atmosphere but small enough to not create a super-massive crater, could have been a chunk of iron no bigger than a brick.  And I think your companion theory may be right, the asteroid belt is one big shooting gallery, all you need is one thing to ding another and its a pinball effect.


Top secret footage of a new asteroid defense system stationed just this side of the asteroid belt:


Asteroids - Arcade (Atari 1979) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZfsnA7dAHI#)
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Pandora on February 16, 2013, 01:51:56 PM
Loved that game.
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Glock32 on February 16, 2013, 02:20:24 PM
I also have to throw in a bad Yakof Schmirnov:

"In Russia, space explores you"
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: pisskop on February 16, 2013, 02:53:22 PM
 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 16, 2013, 03:18:49 PM
The scene of the crater at 3:00 of the video is amazing.
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Miltrainer on February 16, 2013, 06:41:28 PM
The scene of the crater at 3:00 of the video is amazing.

Sorry IDP that part of the video is false. It is actually from a hole that was ignited be cause of a gas leak. It has been around for some time. Whoever made the video just threw that in for effect. I still don't know if they found the real crater form the Meteor. His is the link to the actual crater shown in the video.

http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/ (http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/)
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 16, 2013, 06:56:04 PM
The scene of the crater at 3:00 of the video is amazing.

Sorry IDP that part of the video is false. It is actually from a hole that was ignited be cause of a gas leak. It has been around for some time. Whoever made the video just threw that in for effect. I still don't know if they found the real crater form the Meteor. His is the link to the actual crater shown in the video.

http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/ (http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/)

Unbelievable. People have too much time on their hands.
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Miltrainer on February 17, 2013, 09:20:11 AM
The scene of the crater at 3:00 of the video is amazing.

Sorry IDP that part of the video is false. It is actually from a hole that was ignited be cause of a gas leak. It has been around for some time. Whoever made the video just threw that in for effect. I still don't know if they found the real crater form the Meteor. His is the link to the actual crater shown in the video.

http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/ (http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/)

Unbelievable. People have too much time on their hands.


You talking to me? ::saywhat::
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 17, 2013, 09:32:31 AM
The scene of the crater at 3:00 of the video is amazing.

Sorry IDP that part of the video is false. It is actually from a hole that was ignited be cause of a gas leak. It has been around for some time. Whoever made the video just threw that in for effect. I still don't know if they found the real crater form the Meteor. His is the link to the actual crater shown in the video.

http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/ (http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/)

Unbelievable. People have too much time on their hands.


You talking to me? ::saywhat::

NO! I'm talking about people who would go to the trouble of adding a crater to a video. What other reason besides "because I could" would motivate someone to do such a thing? It's the kind of thing that has no value. OF COURSE people will be fooled by it - a giant meteor struck Russia. Why WOULDN'T people believe it? If someone edited in a scene from a movie or aliens or something I could understand it more, but why add fake footage of something that probably exists to one degree or another in reality?

That's a lot of trouble for a little payoff. That's why I made the comment I did. I thank you for being astute enough to suspect the fakery, and I flog myself for falling for it.
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Libertas on February 17, 2013, 10:46:37 AM
Damn Rooskies, hoodwinked again! 

Bloody mongrels!
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Miltrainer on February 17, 2013, 10:57:57 AM
The scene of the crater at 3:00 of the video is amazing.

Sorry IDP that part of the video is false. It is actually from a hole that was ignited be cause of a gas leak. It has been around for some time. Whoever made the video just threw that in for effect. I still don't know if they found the real crater form the Meteor. His is the link to the actual crater shown in the video.

http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/ (http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/)

Unbelievable. People have too much time on their hands.


You talking to me? ::saywhat::

NO! I'm talking about people who would go to the trouble of adding a crater to a video. What other reason besides "because I could" would motivate someone to do such a thing? It's the kind of thing that has no value. OF COURSE people will be fooled by it - a giant meteor struck Russia. Why WOULDN'T people believe it? If someone edited in a scene from a movie or aliens or something I could understand it more, but why add fake footage of something that probably exists to one degree or another in reality?

That's a lot of trouble for a little payoff. That's why I made the comment I did. I thank you for being astute enough to suspect the fakery, and I flog myself for falling for it.
I remember an email that floated around a few years ago about a new top secret stealth fighter jet. It had very large up close pictures of the jet on an aircraft carrier. They looked amazing until the last one in showed a close up of one of the fighter pilots. It was none other than Jessica Biel from the movie Stealth.
I received that email every couple of months by different people. A couple were from other retired military folk.  ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia hit by meteor?
Post by: Libertas on February 17, 2013, 12:44:50 PM
I remember that one, I had it forwarded to me by my father, he asked me "Is this real?", I had to say no and copied the Snopes link debunking it.  He gets a lot of knee-jerk stuff sent to him by friends.

But everyone can get snookered once in a while.