It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => World/Foreign Affairs => Topic started by: Libertas on March 07, 2013, 07:55:09 PM
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What a macabre theater of the frighteningly absurd!
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/07/world/asia/un-north-korea-sanctions/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/07/world/asia/un-north-korea-sanctions/index.html)
Something bites, not sure it will be these sanctions! I mean this is the nation that will devote every last resource to their military and let their people strip trees of their bark and let them starve and die, and sanctions haven't done jack to rein in these crazy bastards!
WTF makes anybody think it will work this time? It's BS! When crazy people say they will kill you and their behavior exhibits no evidence that they will ever live peacefully in the world, every nation should pounce on them and kill them all.
What a fustercluck!
And this from the Obama Regime - "I can tell you that the United States is fully capable of defending against any North Korean ballistic missile attack," said White House spokesman Jay Carney.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_NKOREA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-07-17-01-56 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_NKOREA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-07-17-01-56)
Uhh hih, yeah, OK. All this is good for is anchoring around the Regime's neck, we get hit, the wave of pissed of people storming the ramparts is the duty of every American (still alive that is)!
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Saw that headline on Drudge. His Highness reassuring
us he can repel the NoKo's. This is some kind of oxy-
moron, I mean he has to reassure us about NoKo, that's
not very reassuring about Russia and China or Pakistan
for that matter.
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As long as they target DC and the prevailing winds are out to sea, I'm not seeing much of a downside.
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As long as they target DC and the prevailing winds are out to sea, I'm not seeing much of a downside.
Was my thought......if I lived in DC, I'd be scared chitless. Obamas track record protecting Americans isn't too good.
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Nice fantasy, but I doubt the Norks could reach DC, unless they sneak something in, with those things close is good enough. More likely Hawaii, Alaska & the West Coast is more in danger, and those prevailing winds head toward us, not so much away...
::outrage::
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Lot of dissipation between the west coast and fly-over-country. Soup, Ben, y'all got your NBC suits?
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Glock stole my thought. Honestly, if DC were nuked, I would weigh it on a balance sheet. Lives would be lost - fewer regrettable than not - and it would throw the country and its future into turmoil. But at least the gravest enemy of liberty would be dealt with, and we could focus on retaliating against a foreign aggressor, and then rebuilding.
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That would be a widespread reaction, probably only the hardcore leftists might be annoyed by it, and no doubt they would expect libiots should be replaced with libiots, so it still spells civil war, but the assist would be welcome, bring the civil war!
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Glock stole my thought. Honestly, if DC were nuked, I would weigh it on a balance sheet. Lives would be lost - fewer regrettable than not - and it would throw the country and its future into turmoil. But at least the gravest enemy of liberty would be dealt with, and we could focus on retaliating against a foreign aggressor, and then rebuilding.
Aside from the few regrettables, what of value really would be lost? Nothing. Less than nothing; they're obstacles, sand in the gears of every thing and every one productive in the rest of the country, yet DC is awash with money.
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Glock stole my thought. Honestly, if DC were nuked, I would weigh it on a balance sheet. Lives would be lost - fewer regrettable than not - and it would throw the country and its future into turmoil. But at least the gravest enemy of liberty would be dealt with, and we could focus on retaliating against a foreign aggressor, and then rebuilding.
I would be really, really interested to see who in congress happened to be out of town. A war is also a wonderful excuse to throw DHS into high gear, deploy the travel checkpoints, and start locking us down.
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I'm thinking if NoKo is successful in this attempt there will be no DHS or any other bureaucracy. There will be no head and no funding. The first best step will be a Confederation and that's if we are in God's grace.
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About that pudgy little guy who did the dance song (http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/11/world/asia/south-korea-military-exercises/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
He just ended the truce. That's certainly upping the situation beyond the usual bluster. Has North Korea gone critical with food shortages perhaps, and now has nothing to lose?
::thinking::
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The Nork military has announced it has nullified the armistice agreement.
"Can they do that?"
Sure, an armistice is a cease fire of indefinite duration. The war footing has not changed since it was signed.
Materially, nothing has changed, politically however the Nork's have upped the ante.
It appears they are becoming more (not less) beligerent.
I know this must come as a shock to those who thought the O'Bongo Regime would bring universal peace to all lands and all people.
Yeah, ahh, no...hiding behind unenforceable UN resoutions and otherwise doing nothing is not a sound long-term strategy!
But Team O'Bongo will find a way to make things worse, they always do. . .
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So, now, he's going to relieve the SoKos from the taint of oppressive western Europeans.
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If they're going to do anything it will have to be with strike weapons. The minute they try to unleash thousands of North Korean conscripts onto the South, a lifetime of delusions and lies will come crashing down. You can imagine them laying eyes on modern Seoul and comparing it to their labor camp with tree bark soup. It's like when Axis POWs were sent to prisoner camps in the USA. They arrived in ports like New York to find them totally undamaged, contrary to the propaganda that had been fed to them about the city being in ruins.
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There is the Soviet style of troop encouragement to contend with though, aka a bullet in the back.
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'Lil Kim, Half-pint Un, whateverthefrick this assclown's name is...targeting Hawaii, DC, LA & Austin, TX?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9960933/North-Korea-plan-to-attack-US-mainland-revealed-in-photographs.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9960933/North-Korea-plan-to-attack-US-mainland-revealed-in-photographs.html)
I have to say, his target list is not bothering me as much as I thought it would.
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Heh, IAL's list ought to ::speechless:: 'em more.
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Agree CO.
Back in Norkland...the Clinton Memorial Plutonium Reactor (It must be shaped liked a crooked old wanker) is set to reopen.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130402/DA5D7U6G3.html (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130402/DA5D7U6G3.html)
Time for Kerry to go bore the living shyt out of everybody and Barry to hit the chiba harder...all will be well...
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Nork's prepping missiles?
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/04/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/04/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html)
Buffalo Bills WR says they can blast Foxboro.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/04/04/bills-wr-stevie-johnson-suggests-on-twitter-that-north-korea-bomb-foxboro-mass/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/04/04/bills-wr-stevie-johnson-suggests-on-twitter-that-north-korea-bomb-foxboro-mass/)
Quick, somebody find Dennis Rodman, we need to get to the bottom of all this!
::)
::facepalm::
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They've declared war on us -- I say it cannot be looked at any other way due to what they've actually said -- and, as usual, Obongo is somewhere else campaigning for something nearer and dearer to his heart, his anti-2A bullsh*t, instead of tending to what really affects our national security.
SSDD.
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(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/image_zps1d3a7600.jpg)
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(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/image_zps1d3a7600.jpg)
Oh.....my.....
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Fact is, we would be justified in launching a military attack on them right now. You cannot threaten other countries like this. It's like pointing a gun or knife at someone and saying you're going to kill them.
I know they have a history of bombastic threats, but I don't recall anything quite so belligerent as "we are going to launch nuclear missiles against you".
Unfortunately any response by the current government of this country would only be to use a situation like this to its domestic advantage.
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Ah, don't worry guys. Obama, Kerry, and Hagel are all over this pipsqueak. They'll stare him down.
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Reagan would have made 'Lil Kim wet himself, as it is all Team O'Bongo can do is wet itself even without receiving threats.
PS-I am so stealin' that pic IDP!
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Foreign dogs, out!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/all-embassies-told-to-evacuate-pyongyang-now/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/all-embassies-told-to-evacuate-pyongyang-now/)
Wow, leaving North Korea...Thank You, Jesus! ::whoohoo::
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"Uh-oh... Change of plans..."
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/image_zps4abbb956.jpg)
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Mr Virtual President on N Korea (http://www.therightscoop.com/awesome-bill-whittle-virtual-president-explains-how-to-deal-with-n-korea/)
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I guess I am a little concerned about the insane idiot Norks now. I heard on the news last night that they had shut down the Kaesong Industrial Park. (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/09/uk-korea-north-kaesong-idUKBRE93716520130409)
(Reuters) - North Korean labourers failed to turn up for work on Tuesday at a factory complex operated with South Korea, companies with operations there said, effectively shutting down the last major symbol of cooperation between the hostile neighbours.
South Korea's president said she was disappointed at Pyongyang's decision to halt operations at the Kaesong industrial park, which comes after weeks of mounting tension during which the North has threatened to attack the South and the United States.
As long as that place was still open then all of the Nork's talk was just that. Shutting down Kaesong means that the Norks will not be bringing in money from the south, one of the only legitimate ways for them to make any money. It is still hard to believe that they want to commit national suicide by launching a war but shutting down Kaesong makes the saber rattling quite a bit more serious than it was the day before yesterday.
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Black Five is ridiculing the usual suspects, suggesting it is the usual insane sabre-rattling.
Problem is bat-shyt effing crazy militaristic regimes with nasty toys tend to make me want to implement a preemptive strike to sterilize them from the face of the earth...not sure how else the problem is resolved definitively.
Latest SP update was from 4-4 saying it looks to be the usual shakedown op.
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20130404.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20130404.aspx)
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http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20130404.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20130404.aspx)
It is all theater, backed up by the threat of violence that never becomes real. This time North Korea has got the world’s attention to an extent never seen before.
And why is that, do you think? Because this time our leaders want attention focused there. Because this time our leaders WANT a war ( just like they did in WWII and WWI) because the currency wars are escalating and failure to start a war will lead to obvious monetary collapse. A nice war where they can send the young and unemployed off to get killed, while clamping down on free speech and other rights at home is just what they need. The war effort is taking all of the gasoline. Consumer goods can't be produced or shipped. Here is your ration book. Travel is restricted for security reasons. Obey or we will think you are a spy for the enemy. Our government and other Govts around the world are going to do everything they can to goad nutcases like North Korea into starting an ever escalating war. A war with North Korea will inevitably engage China, who will welcome it for the same reasons. A war with Iran will inevitably engage Russia, who will want it for the same reasons.
North Korea is like that emotional kid on the playground - the one who could be counted on to get upset when poked - and would get in trouble for it rather than the bullies that started the encounter.
FDR pretty much goaded the Japanese into WWII and attacking Pearl Harbor, and it all worked very well for FDR in the 40s Not so sure it will work so well for them this time- given how much time they have spent on getting Liberals to be unpatriotic. But of course, that is only when an American is in charge. When is a Fascist Marxist asshat like Borat, it might all be well and good. There will be no 50's like recovery however, I suspect we are going to suffer greatly in this one. Marxists would rather destroy the world than be relegated to the ashbin of history as a failed tyrannical failed philosophy
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"There will be no 50's like recovery however, I suspect we are going to suffer greatly in this one. Marxists would rather destroy the world than be relegated to the ashbin of history as a failed tyrannical failed philosophy "
Whether Roosevelt intentionally goaded or was just another narcissist stupid we'll never know; however, you're observation about US and NoKo I feel is correct. But, predicting what will happen after it starts or finishes is another thing. It's not 1941 and we're all not "down on the farm"; it will be a double edged sword and which way it cuts will be up to us.
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Nothing would surprise me, the real surprise would be if they do not manufacture ways to exploit every situation in order to enslave us all, another surprise would be people here not putting up with it.
ETA - Maybe the script is already in play...
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/09/exclusive_us_and_north_korea_held_secret_meeting_in_march (http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/09/exclusive_us_and_north_korea_held_secret_meeting_in_march)
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Chi-Com's threaten to cut off support if 'Lil Un doesn't cool off. Since 'Lil Un seems to be unavailable... ::saywhat::
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20130415.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20130415.aspx)