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Topics => Faith & Family => Topic started by: IronDioPriest on March 13, 2013, 06:13:41 PM
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NEW POPE: NO COMMUNION FOR PRO-ABORTION POLITICIANS (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/03/13/Francis-no-communion-abortion)
New Pope Francis I is a conservative in the mold of his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI and Pope John Paul II. That’s especially true on the issue of abortion, which he called a “death sentence” for the unborn in 2007. “We aren’t in agreement with the death penalty,” he said during that speech, “but in Argentina we have the death penalty. A child conceived by the rape of a mentally ill or retarded woman can be condemned to death.”
NEW POPE: SAME-SEX MARRIAGE 'A MACHINATION OF THE FATHER OF LIES' (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/03/13/New-Pope-same-sex-marriage)
New Pope Francis I is an ardent opponent of same-sex marriage, in coincidence with traditional Catholic belief. In 2010, he wrote, “Let’s not be naïve, we’re not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.”
The media remains aghast at the fact that Francis I is a Catholic. They should get used to it.
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Yah, the Pope is Catholic and other modern oppressions ....
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I like it. Especially denying communion to politicians who spend every other waking moment of their lives undermining what they pretend to hold dear while sitting in the pews. Much is being made about him choosing the name Francis, harkening back to Francis of Assisi and his mission to repair the church. It seems a fitting choice of name, if indeed he intends to make it his mission to repair the church like his namesake.
Whatever makes Leftists aghast and angry is a sure sign of righteousness. Like pouring holy water on a vampire.
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Well, I would expect the DemoNazi's in Minnie to come forth with a resolution denouncing the new Pope as a dangerous relic of the past who shows clear indications of being a homophobe, sexist and right-wing political extremist.
Well, if they were honest anyway...
I bet the local clergy here still plans to give the gays and abortionists communion...
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Words...just words...
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This is a comment from Ace. I can't find a clip, though, so take it for what it's worth.
Pope Francis has a sense of humor. On CNN, Dolan said that after Francis was elected, they ate together and all the Cardinals offered a toast to Francis. As a reply, Francis raised his glass to them and said "May God forgive all of you."
When was the last time we had a Borscht Belt comedian for a pope?
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I dunno, the Bourgias? ::stirpot::
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One of the things the Catholic Church, and the whole of Christianity in general, needs to do is eliminate the conflation of our Godly duty to help the unfortunate with political marxism. Of course the conflation of the two has been deliberate. But it's so entrenched now that the argument is actually made (by nihilistic atheists who aren't religious anyway) that opposing socialism is the same as opposing the teachings of Christ. Christ has been recast as some sort of earlier prototype of Che Guevara. Another perversion from the author of all lies.
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One of the things the Catholic Church, and the whole of Christianity in general, needs to do is eliminate the conflation of our Godly duty to help the unfortunate with political marxism. Of course the conflation of the two has been deliberate. But it's so entrenched now that the argument is actually made (by nihilistic atheists who aren't religious anyway) that opposing socialism is the same as opposing the teachings of Christ. Christ has been recast as some sort of earlier prototype of Che Guevara. Another perversion from the author of all lies.
Allinsky?
Satan?
No difference, really.
Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the Church to realize there is a clear distinction between political Marxism and helping the poor! ::)
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Yeah I know. It's unlikely to happen.
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On the topic of things not likely to happen...
Can we call agree to call Leftists who refuse to accept any Church doctrine as Bad Catholics or Bad Christians and the like? I mean they are bent upon forcing a doctrinal changes that align with their warped queer/Marxist/pro-babyslaying ideology instead of going somewhere that values that warped ideology already, so we might as well identify them as "bad", "failed", "terminally-flawed" and other properly judgemental descriptors, right? Am I right?
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Pope Francis reaches out to Jews (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_POPE_JEWS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-15-09-09-34)
Oookay; I'd prefer he reach out to Catholics, but okay.
However ....
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, as he was known before he became pope, showed as Buenos Aires archbishop an inclination to expand interfaith outreach to Islam and Judaism, and made efforts to further close the nearly 1,000-year estrangement with the Orthodox churches.
.... not okay. Strike One.
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Way to go, Jorge. ::)
Muy estupido!
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OK, outreach to Islam - Strike One.
And here come two fastballs in a row for the strikeout:
...the environment!
...the poor!
Yooooour Out!
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130319/DA543SAO1.html (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130319/DA543SAO1.html)
PS-To Alltard proof this, calling strikes on the above does not in any way condone willfull destruction of environment or the extermination of the poor, it merely means that this Papa is using all of the lefty code words and pleasantries that indicate a clear socialist political mindset!
PPS-Henceforth I propose we refer to Francis as Franny, first socialist Pope of the new millenium.
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I'd say that he's the Perfect Padre for our descent into hell.
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Yeah, I'm sure the transition will be fearlessly compassionate. . . :P
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Francis said the role of the pope is to open his arms and protect all of humanity, but "especially the poorest, the weakest, the least important, those whom Matthew lists in the final judgment on love: the hungry, the thirsty, the stranger, the naked, the sick and those in prison."
*sigh* Not a word about men's souls, the care of which is in his charge, as I see it.
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Francis said the role of the pope is to open his arms and protect all of humanity, but "especially the poorest, the weakest, the least important, those whom Matthew lists in the final judgment on love: the hungry, the thirsty, the stranger, the naked, the sick and those in prison."
*sigh* Not a word about men's souls, the care of which is in his charge, as I see it.
A result of his Jesuit affiliation, if I was to posit. They are all about missionary. But yeah.
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So any serious attempt to weed out the detritus and expel the blasphemers and those who throw away Church doctrines they do not like is dead, all in the name of blind compassion.
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One more steee-rike.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295626/Pope-Francis-I-Inauguration-Mass-New-Pope-meet-Robert-Mugabe-President-Zimbabwe-inaugural-mass-Vaticans-St-Peters-Square.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295626/Pope-Francis-I-Inauguration-Mass-New-Pope-meet-Robert-Mugabe-President-Zimbabwe-inaugural-mass-Vaticans-St-Peters-Square.html)
The moment the Pope bowed down to Robert Mugabe: Zimbabwe dictator meets pontiff after sitting in VIP section at inaugural Mass
(http://i.mol.im/i/pix/2013/03/19/article-2295626-18C6F51D000005DC-314_636x310.jpg)
Pope Francis raised several eyebrows when he met and shook hands with Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe
during his inaugural Mass in the Vatican today. President Mugabe, who has been under a European Union travel ban since
2002 because of allegations of human rights abuses and vote rigging, was sitting in the VIP section during the installation
ceremony in ST Peter's Square, and later received a personal greeting from the new pontiff.
Must've taken bowing lessons from our asshole precedent.
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Mugabe could be Idi Amin's son.
Nice move, Franny.
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Well it will be interesting to see what sort of papal bulls he issues in his tenure. If Catholics believe the Pope is infallible in his official proclamations, suppose he bans the Latin Tridentine Mass? I've been reading on Barnhardt's page where she brings up the hostility that has been directed at the old Latin mass by the Church, and in one post she suggests the proper response to papal hostility to the Latin mass would be to align oneself with the Eastern Catholics who maintain communion with Rome, because supposedly the Pope has less direct influence over them. I don't know, that seems to me to be within spitting distance of doubting papal infallibility.
That's where I find her missives against Protestants to be irritating, because she acts as if Luther began the "protest" based merely on his selfish desires and not because questions such as the above hadn't been smoldering in people's minds for centuries already.
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There are times when it seems to me most logical that Jesus Christ would be utterly appalled at the fact that organized religions have been erected in His name. Contemplating people's assertion that Catholicism is the only infallible Christian religion is a regular catalyst for that thought.
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You both make excellent points, I have voiced similar sentiments many times.
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The only reason for organized religion is to control the peasants. With so many in the US doubting the existence of God, maybe that is why government has become the new religion. The new class of peasants (free shyt libs) want to be controlled.
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Anybody wanting to be controlled should be kicked out, those not leaving voluntarily should be launched.