It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: warpmine on June 15, 2013, 08:36:36 PM
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Over the years we've all considered the recital of the Pledge to be our patriotic duty. Recently we've become aware that ir was a progressive stooge that it was composed by Francis Bellamy, a Socialist, who used Christian language to promote the idea of distribution of economic resources.
We believe that pledge represents something, the flag, but what does that flag represent now. It's just a symbol of the United States no matter what kind of government this country has and it's currently a crypt o-fascist in every respect. The rule of law to which the Constitution constructed is now dead and judging from what the last five years has shown us, who could argue this fact. Our children, military and our opening legislative sessions around the country, recite a pledge of allegiance to a flag that now represents opposition to the very principles that this country was founded upon.
If we ever get this country tuned around, I believe the pledge should clearly be to the Constitution of these United States, not to some flag representing whatever tyranny has control over it. This will in effect put the constitution in the minds of those that recite it every time. We then are only tasked with pushing it to the forefront of almost every discussion relating to our country. Aside from that, we can clearly chastise those that sh*t on it.
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I went to a Double A baseball game this evening-the Altoona Curve.
They said the pledge before the Anthem.
I had a hard time reciting it so I didn't
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I no longer can either. Friday was Flag Day. We didn't hang ours. As it is, I reversed it -- it now hangs upside down -- in November of last year.
We're clearly gonna need another banner
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I can't deal with the Star Spangled Banner either. It has rankled me for years that no one will actually sing it properly in the first place (instead all we get is melismatic drifting all over the octave range) but now it's even worse. I cannot hear that final crescendo "land of the free, and the home of the brave" without becoming pissed off. I am not sure what pisses me off most: that the words ring so hollow, or that people still get roused up by it as if there's still any truth to the sentiment.
We are not a land of the free. And clearly we are not a home of the brave either, because if we were this mess would be getting sorted.
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...land of the enslaved, home of the cowardly.
:'(
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I love the star spangled banner. It is our history. Even though, as a country, we have forgotten its meaning, it still holds a special place in my heart.
I do believe the words ring hollow today. Corruption has replaced patriotism but one day, as this country burns, hopefully for the right reason, a resurrection of our great land.
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I no longer can either. Friday was Flag Day. We didn't hang ours. As it is, I reversed it -- it now hangs upside down -- in November of last year.
We're clearly gonna need another banner
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8vpww-8mV__pyePxcsJbVN0ah1WnsmuXaQFOHzd_Xjb6v-NTgiA)
Liberals, being totalitarian by nature, never understood that our allegiance is to the contract and NOT to the government which the contract forms, and certainly not when that government is in breach of its powers. You can't control the symbol, and pretend you are legitimate.
The INDIVIDUALS who make up WE THE PEOPLE are the Sovereign here. Not Obama. Not the Federal apparatus. Our participation is by OUR CONSENT, which we will withdraw.
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They have a different perspective on the word contract.
They believe a contract is the terms set for the beginning
of negotiation not the culmination. Harpies is what they are.
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I no longer can either. Friday was Flag Day. We didn't hang ours. As it is, I reversed it -- it now hangs upside down -- in November of last year.
We're clearly gonna need another banner
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8vpww-8mV__pyePxcsJbVN0ah1WnsmuXaQFOHzd_Xjb6v-NTgiA)
Liberals, being totalitarian by nature, never understood that our allegiance is to the contract and NOT to the government which the contract forms, and certainly not when that government is in breach of its powers. You can't control the symbol, and pretend you are legitimate.
The INDIVIDUALS who make up WE THE PEOPLE are the Sovereign here. Not Obama. Not the Federal apparatus. Our participation is by OUR CONSENT, which we will withdraw.
AMEN! ::clapping::
Don't tread on me...or prepare to reap a world of hurt! machinegun