It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Military News/Veterans => Topic started by: Glock32 on July 06, 2013, 12:14:01 PM
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For years I had heard a statistic from both the Army and the Marine Corps that said a high percentage of female recruits were unable to throw hand grenades far enough to assure their own position is outside the kill radius of the grenade. Moonbattery has just posted this video:
(http://moonbattery.com/women-in-combat.gif)
Yeah, there are some Joan of Arcs throughout history, and women who find themselves forced into defending themselves or children can be vicious (nothing in nature is more dangerous than a mother animal protecting her young), but this idea of formally integrating them into front line combat units is a fantasy that isn't going to end well for anyone involved.
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Dayum! She does throw like a girl! And notice, the guy closest to her pitches her over the wall before getting behind cover himself. This is a problem in combat, one which will result in more casualties because of men's instincts to protect women. It can be trained out of them, however, and the social engineers are busily engaged in doing just that and more; they're trying to eradicate "gender" and all the attending implications.
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All you need is love, rat ta tat ta tah
This baby is an email blast item for sure.
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How do you cover up the fact that you sent women to die and for what,what does it prove?
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I believe one of the major reasons the ERA was defeated was that people couldn't get pass the idea of women in combat. Despite all the good they thought it might do they feared that result.
I think there are still many who think that way but I fear there's not enough. Too many passive people conditioned by years of public schooling to accept whatever is handed to them.
A society that doesn't protect marriage or its unborn isn't going to protect its women either.
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How do you cover up the fact that you sent women to die and for what,what does it prove?
There is no intention of covering it up because the intent is for us to inculcate the notion that we're all just little interchangeable units. They want to eradicate the fact of specific sex, or, in PC-speak, "gender", as it was done for race, you know "there's no such thing as race/we're all more alike than we are different"? But they aren't telling that to "minorities" because they'll get laughed at or their asses kicked, so, that's meant for you, paleface. They're about deconstructing society by demanding we believe that race and sex are "social constructs", i.e. man-invented concepts. The bug in their theory becomes evident when it meets reality: if "gender" is a social construct, it wouldn't matter to a homosexual man or a lesbian woman who they boinked if one is just the same as the other.
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Why is the fella on her left grabbing her arm before she throws the grenade? Lucky for her he did, because he was ready, in advance, to perform the move to get her to safety.
...and is it even possible that the other fella escaped injury? He wasn't protected by anything.
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He was protected by the sandbags. I think. The grenade did explode on the other side of 'em.
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He was protected by the sandbags. I think. The grenade did explode on the other side of 'em.
Oh, ok. I thought she fumbled it on this side of the sandbags. So the exercise is, throw the grenade and we'll all take cover, and his grabbing her arm is standard training procedure. She just didn't throw it far enough.
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The woman is either very tall or the men are short.
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For years I had heard a statistic from both the Army and the Marine Corps that said a high percentage of female recruits were unable to throw hand grenades far enough to assure their own position is outside the kill radius of the grenade. Moonbattery has just posted this video:
(http://moonbattery.com/women-in-combat.gif)
Yeah, there are some Joan of Arcs throughout history, and women who find themselves forced into defending themselves or children can be vicious (nothing in nature is more dangerous than a mother animal protecting her young), but this idea of formally integrating them into front line combat units is a fantasy that isn't going to end well for anyone involved.
I cannot think of a better way to illustrate what the danger is here, to both the women and the men who WILL try to protect them. And God forbid we train men NOT to protect our women.
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The video does not look like an exercise, at least to me. It looks like she dropped it on the other side of the sandbags and they scrambled like hell. Id say the exercise was the toss and then KNEEL down behind the sandbags.
That was panic.
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The video does not look like an exercise, at least to me. It looks like she dropped it on the other side of the sandbags and they scrambled like hell. Id say the exercise was the toss and then KNEEL down behind the sandbags.
That was panic.
You could be right.
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For years I had heard a statistic from both the Army and the Marine Corps that said a high percentage of female recruits were unable to throw hand grenades far enough to assure their own position is outside the kill radius of the grenade. Moonbattery has just posted this video:
(http://moonbattery.com/women-in-combat.gif)
Yeah, there are some Joan of Arcs throughout history, and women who find themselves forced into defending themselves or children can be vicious (nothing in nature is more dangerous than a mother animal protecting her young), but this idea of formally integrating them into front line combat units is a fantasy that isn't going to end well for anyone involved.
I cannot think of a better way to illustrate what the danger is here, to both the women and the men who WILL try to protect them. And God forbid we train men NOT to protect our women.
I had the same thought, the training will be adjusted, they will not back off their policy change, in the end I wonder how many casualties that could be avoided will be sustained. There are some gals who could be tough enough for hairy-chested physical action, 85-90% probably aren't...but it will be forced.
This really won't end well.
And wait until fraternization and jealousies get added into the mix...the foxhole might not be the safe haven you think it is...
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Between gays and women , it's an attempt to emasculate the U.S. Military .
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And notice, the guy closest to her pitches her over the wall before getting behind cover himself.
I agree with the whole "men protecting women" instinct thing but I would also wager that the soldier in charge, almost certainly a sergeant, would do the same thing with any idiot private under his command.
It does seem strange, also, that they are dressed so lightly for this type of training. They almost certainly have eye and ear protection that cannot be seen but I would expect them to have some sort of battle gear on like, say, helmets at the very least.
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And notice, the guy closest to her pitches her over the wall before getting behind cover himself.
I agree with the whole "men protecting women" instinct thing but I would also wager that the soldier in charge, almost certainly a sergeant, would do the same thing with any idiot private under his command.
It does seem strange, also, that they are dressed so lightly for this type of training. They almost certainly have eye and ear protection that cannot be seen but I would expect them to have some sort of battle gear on like, say, helmets at the very least.
No doubt Trap, but an idiot male might have enough sense to pitch the pineapple better and seek cover without having to be tossed...unless the idiot male is especially idiotic...I think the instinct to protect was hightened for a female...these two don't look like homies from da hood who would just run away and shove anybody (even a woman) out of the way to save their own ass. The guy on the right seemed to gesture and likely yelled something at the other fella to get that gal behind cover...the second guy knew he didn't have time or any room where they went...he just tucked in behind the dirt berm. No visible ear protection if there is any it must be plugs. Lack of helmets and vests even in a training course is surprising. Could it have been a walk thru prior to the real deal that went wrong (as in "then you pull the pin...not now damnit!")?
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If this is the new army....I'd suggest practicing with dummy grenades before handling a live grenade.
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I seem to remember that there was some kind of a mistake made on the firing range when my son went through basic...something along the lines of a gun going off when it shouldn't, pointed in a direction that it shouldn't have been pointed in...that kind of thing. I don't recall that it was a female. The person who did it was punished pretty severely with pushups and running around with a rifle over his head.
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I seem to remember that there was some kind of a mistake made on the firing range when my son went through basic...something along the lines of a gun going off when it shouldn't, pointed in a direction that it shouldn't have been pointed in...that kind of thing. I don't recall that it was a female. The person who did it was punished pretty severely with pushups and running around with a rifle over his head.
The way she threw that grenade......I couldn't see punishing her by running with a grenade ( in her hand) over her head.....unless she was alone in a field. I'd say push ups wouldn't work either.
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As far as I can see, nobody's saying there weren't and aren't already eff-ups made by men. What I'm saying is add women and now there's a whole new level of possible eff-ups. They are going to get people killed, because, as a rule, they don't belong there.
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I just want to make clear that women have served in every war we've been involved in in this country. Had wonem been able to serve in combat it would have been done years ago.But women to serve a very important role in combat as care givers and have for as long as I can remember.
What greater role is there than that of the person that is there to aid and comfort the wounded?Bless them all for their service and I don't see a reason for them to give any more than they already do.This PC crap is going to stop when women are dead in droves,talk about a war on women.
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I just want to make clear that women have served in every war we've been involved in in this country. Had wonem been able to serve in combat it would have been done years ago.But women to serve a very important role in combat as care givers and have for as long as I can remember.
What greater role is there than that of the person that is there to aid and comfort the wounded?Bless them all for their service and I don't see a reason for them to give any more than they already do.This PC crap is going to stop when women are dead in droves,talk about a war on women.
Don't you understand......Do you think liberal women will sign up? This is just one more avenue to snuff out the competition.
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He was protected by the sandbags. I think. The grenade did explode on the other side of 'em.
It is obvious by where the black smoke is generated that she did not get the grenade on the other side of the sandbags. The guy on the left was prepared (just in case) for her to not throw the grenade far enough and when it fell on their side of the sandbags he was ready to throw her behind the secondary bunker. The other guy scrambled to lower ground so that any shock wave would go over his head. This was a training grenade (low explosive and no shrapnel).
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He was protected by the sandbags. I think. The grenade did explode on the other side of 'em.
It is obvious by where the black smoke is generated that she did not get the grenade on the other side of the sandbags. The guy on the left was prepared (just in case) for her to not throw the grenade far enough and when it fell on their side of the sandbags he was ready to throw her behind the secondary bunker. The other guy scrambled to lower ground so that any shock wave would go over his head. This was a training grenade (low explosive and no shrapnel).
Good observation. ::thumbsup::