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Title: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Libertas on April 06, 2011, 11:49:29 AM
Drudge has the blue light flashing!

http://www.drudgereport.com/ (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Pandora on April 06, 2011, 11:52:29 AM
No story; just the headline.

I ain't buying it until .....
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Libertas on April 06, 2011, 11:53:13 AM
Here we go!

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/glenn-beck-to-end-daily-fox-news-program/?hp (http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/glenn-beck-to-end-daily-fox-news-program/?hp)

http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/06/glenn-beck-to-transition-off-daily-fox-news-show/ (http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/06/glenn-beck-to-transition-off-daily-fox-news-show/)
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 06, 2011, 11:59:36 AM
Sounds to me like a move onto another phase rather than some kind of ratings fallout or personality-driven ouster.
[blockquote]"Fox News and Mercury Radio Arts, which have sometimes clashed over the making of “Glenn Beck,” will “work together to develop and produce a variety of television projects for air on the Fox News Channel as well as content for other platforms including Fox News’ digital properties,” the companies said in the statement.

As expected, a senior Fox News executive, Joel Cheatwood, will join Mr. Beck at Mercury Radio Arts starting later this month."[/blockquote]
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Pandora on April 06, 2011, 12:03:45 PM
That's what it looks like to me as well.  Perhaps Beck realizes he's done all he can do, for where he is, and a new phase with a different format is in order.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Sectionhand on April 06, 2011, 12:08:13 PM
I'd like to see them give Brit Hume an hour for topical discussions ... If he'd do it ... which I doubt .
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Libertas on April 06, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
Yeah, that blue light goes flashing at Drudge you don't really know if it bodes well or ill.

I think he'll move on to another project.  He doesn't fit the quiter mold.

We'll see what Fox does with his slot.

They still need to get rid of Shep though!   ::puke::
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 06, 2011, 12:10:08 PM
That's what it looks like to me as well.  Perhaps Beck realizes he's done all he can do, for where he is, and a new phase with a different format is in order.

His show has evolved in the short time it's been on the air. It has become a single-minded effort at researching the connections between the world's anti-American forces. Not exactly the best format for a daily TV program. The work he's doing would be far more suited to special television events, exposes, and perhaps even documentary feature films. I'm guessing that both parties came to the conclusion that the format of the daily TV show had no long-term future, regardless of respectable-yet-declining ratings. A plan to move forward makes perfect sense, now that they've made the decision to do it.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: John Florida on April 06, 2011, 05:12:35 PM
I'd like to see them give Brit Hume an hour for topical discussions ... If he'd do it ... which I doubt .

 he's done retired. Other than being here and ther he made his money and that's that. I like him a lot.

 I'm not happy about Beck at all.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: hemm on April 06, 2011, 05:51:47 PM
That's what it looks like to me as well.  Perhaps Beck realizes he's done all he can do, for where he is, and a new phase with a different format is in order.

may I suggest............

pitchforks
tar
feathers
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Glock32 on April 06, 2011, 06:44:22 PM
I'd really like to see Mark Steyn get some kind of show of his own. I get the impression, though, that Steyn isn't the sort who would want to do a daily show in a particular format.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Damn_Lucky on April 06, 2011, 06:49:35 PM
Drudge has the blue light flashing!

http://www.drudgereport.com/ (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
Welcome to I Don't Trustmart
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Damn_Lucky on April 06, 2011, 06:53:33 PM
That's what it looks like to me as well.  Perhaps Beck realizes he's done all he can do, for where he is, and a new phase with a different format is in order.
New phase yes All He Can Do? Your guess is as Bad as mine! ::thinking::
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 06, 2011, 08:01:14 PM
I'd like to see them give Brit Hume an hour for topical discussions ... If he'd do it ... which I doubt .

 he's done retired. Other than being here and ther he made his money and that's that. I like him a lot.

 I'm not happy about Beck at all.

I'm not either. Beck was the one draw to Fox for me. Hannity is a nice guy but boring. Greta is grating. And Blockhead is...well...a blockhead. Since I gave up the boob-tube I have been able to find all that I need information and news-wise.

I love the gloating over at mediaclutter site. They think they've won something.

My plan edges closer to fruition.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: trapeze on April 06, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
Has he offered any explanation?

I would theorize (regardless of the official story) that the workload was too much. I think that Rush Limbaugh came to this very realization with his own foray into television.

Let me expand on that theory a bit: The workload was also too much for a quality product. I don't care how talented you are. You can only spread the talent so far before it gets noticeably thin. So there are actually two things that are at work. Exhaustion and the unfulfilled demand for high quality.

Beck has to get up early enough to properly prepare for a three hour radio show. Sometimes there is a fourth hour for internet subscribers to his website. Then it's off to do show prep for the tv program. He is intimately involved in the production of all of this. If you believe the hype, he also does quite a bit of his own research which would involve untold hours of reading and, in some cases, interviews with newsmakers.

It's just too much for one person. Too much if you care about a quality product and your sanity. And your personal life.

You see, O'Reilly and Hannity can do this all day long because they don't care too much about quality. O'Reilly will listen to his producer (on a given topic) for a few minutes form a snap opinion and then ad lib through it as if he knows more than his guests. Hannity does much the same thing except for him it's all about talking points. He memorizes talking points on various subjects and then rattles them off like clockwork, usually over top of his guests (or listeners who call in). He can't do proper followup questions because, unlike Beck, he doesn't read much, doesn't do very much if any research and doesn't much care about the result.

I thought Beck was much better before he was on television. Remember, he was on CNN Headline News before FNC. When he was just a radio guy he was, in my opinion, a much better radio guy than he is now. So it's been a while.

Oh yeah, he is also involved with books (how much of them he actually writes is open to debate) and live performances several times a year.

So...he is spread too thin and very, very tired. Oh yeah, he's also had health issues.

That's my theory.

Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: radioman on April 06, 2011, 09:42:52 PM
Was this his doing?
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 06, 2011, 09:44:39 PM
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That's my theory.

And a good one at that.

Comparing Beck to Hannity or Blockhead is like comparing an episode of "Friends" with a full-length movie. Whatever your impression of what Beck is disseminating, how he disseminates it is impressive.

Personally, I think of Howard Beale (from the movie "Network") when I watch Beck. His goofing, his sarcastic wit, all belie an underlying tension revolving around his exposition of leftist power-politics and corruption. I kept one eye slightly winced in anticipation of the implosion that I always feared would occur.

I wish him the best in whatever endeavor.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: John Florida on April 06, 2011, 10:11:11 PM
I don't think we've seen the last of him.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: trapeze on April 06, 2011, 10:21:58 PM
I also believe that his work is some kind of personal therapy for his alcoholism. His work fills a void that alcohol used to occupy. I could say the same about his religion (mormonism) filling that void but the work is much more visible to the public.

I don't see where, with the burden of his work, he actually has much time for his religion or his family, though.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Pandora on April 06, 2011, 10:41:08 PM
I also believe that his work is some kind of personal therapy for his alcoholism. His work fills a void that alcohol used to occupy. I could say the same about his religion (mormonism) filling that void but the work is much more visible to the public.

I don't see where, with the burden of his work, he actually has much time for his religion or his family, though.

Just a shot in the dark here, but I believe Beck now considers his work as his calling from God; he's practicing a good bit of his religion by being "a voice in the darkness".

You're right about his schedule though; it would take a superhuman, which he is not, to keep up his grueling pace and not succumb to something.

I suspect he realizes the hour-long format is no longer adequate (I don't believe it ever was - it permitted a hit on just the high points) to get out the information he believes is urgent.

And John's right too, IMO; we haven't heard the last of Beck.  I've heard him say multiple times if he was reduced to standing on a street-corner to "tell it", that's what he'd do.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: rickl on April 06, 2011, 10:55:01 PM
I've never actually watched his TV show.  It comes on when I'm still at work and the rerun is late at night when I'm either glued to the internet or in bed.

I only hear his radio show for 10-15 minutes a day when I'm on break at work.  It's remarkable how much influence he's had on me with such minimal exposure.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: trapeze on April 06, 2011, 11:10:35 PM
  I've heard him say multiple times if he was reduced to standing on a street-corner to "tell it", that's what he'd do.

And that's just BS. Limbaugh has three hours a day and is one of the most influential voices out there. Not just with conservatives. He influences things way outside of conservative circles.

Perhaps Beck has come full circle and is beginning to realize that it's more about quality than it is about quantity when it comes to influence. Certainly he has enough money by now so perhaps, for him, it's about influence.

Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Pandora on April 06, 2011, 11:17:27 PM
  I've heard him say multiple times if he was reduced to standing on a street-corner to "tell it", that's what he'd do.

And that's just BS. Limbaugh has three hours a day and is one of the most influential voices out there. Not just with conservatives. He influences things way outside of conservative circles.

Perhaps Beck has come full circle and is beginning to realize that it's more about quality than it is about quantity when it comes to influence. Certainly he has enough money by now so perhaps, for him, it's about influence.



I've seen no reason to believe otherwise and until I do, I'll gladly give Beck the benefit of the doubt.  I don't see his influence having an adverse affect on anybody except our mutual enemies, trap.  So what's the beef?
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: trapeze on April 06, 2011, 11:29:54 PM
It's BS that he needs to stand on a street corner. My point was that his radio show is all he needs to be influential. I used Limbaugh as an example.

I am wondering what Levin thinks of this news. Levin has made no secret of his animus toward "the 5pm'er." Never understood Levin's attitude about Beck, myself.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 06, 2011, 11:30:34 PM

Just a shot in the dark here, but I believe Beck now considers his work as his calling from God; he's practicing a good bit of his religion by being "a voice in the darkness".

You're right about his schedule though; it would take a superhuman, which he is not, to keep up his grueling pace and not succumb to something.

I suspect he realizes the hour-long format is no longer adequate (I don't believe it ever was - it permitted a hit on just the high points) to get out the information he believes is urgent.

And John's right too, IMO; we haven't heard the last of Beck.  I've heard him say multiple times if he was reduced to standing on a street-corner to "tell it", that's what he'd do.

Spot on from this corner of the world..



Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Pandora on April 07, 2011, 12:01:12 AM
It's BS that he needs to stand on a street corner. My point was that his radio show is all he needs to be influential. I used Limbaugh as an example.

I am wondering what Levin thinks of this news. Levin has made no secret of his animus toward "the 5pm'er." Never understood Levin's attitude about Beck, myself.

Ah, I see.  But, you know trap, I think if he was reduced to standing on the street, he'd feel driven to do so.

I don't understand Levin's attitude toward Beck either; toward O'Reilly I get.  Which is the spot he said tonight he's after - 8PM, not 5.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 07, 2011, 12:30:51 AM

IMHO Levin perceives style as a lack of discipline.  Levin and the professionals (I'm thinking Krauthammer picking on Palin) expect a certain presentation of rational logic and Beck is more the hyper active and histrionic, therefore undisciplined in thought.

Beck is dishing out a lot of information and his audience is not a major's class at the university.  I haven't seen his demographics but I would hazard he, in ratio, has more younger people in his audience than Levin or the Nightly Report.

Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: John Florida on April 07, 2011, 10:20:37 AM
 I just through catching up on the shows I couldn't watch last night. Greta had a clip of Beck on with judge Napolitano on Freedom Watch and Beck said that he was leaving the 5P.M. show but he warned those that were celebrating that when he does his new projects planned on FOX that they will wish he was still on at 5P.M.

 I can't find the vid.


   
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 07, 2011, 10:28:25 AM
I just through catching up on the shows I couldn't watch last night. Greta had a clip of Beck on with judge Napolitano on Freedom Watch and Beck said that he was leaving the 5P.M. show but he warned those that were celebrating that when he does his new projects planned on FOX that they will wish he was still on at 5P.M...

That makes perfect sense. What WOULDN'T make sense is for someone riding a tide as huge as Beck's to take a step backwards or down. It is logical to assume that this move was a conscious decision meant to somehow expand his message and media presence.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: BigAlSouth on April 07, 2011, 03:06:44 PM
. . .
And that's just BS. Limbaugh has three hours a day and is one of the most influential voices out there. Not just with conservatives. He influences things way outside of conservative circles.

Perhaps Beck has come full circle and is beginning to realize that it's more about quality than it is about quantity when it comes to influence. Certainly he has enough money by now so perhaps, for him, it's about influence.

OK, here's the deal on Beck. He has all the money he needs, so he has been blessed with the opportunity and the freedom to unleash his creative and artistic genius. As long as he was under contract to Fox, there were certain "limitations" on what he could broadcast on his television show.

With the news that Beck and Fox are parting ways at the end of his contract, the Left is almost giddy with the prospect of Beck gone. As they indulge themselves with the delusional fantasy that somehow they or Media Matters were responsible, I say to them: You will be sorry. With nobody other than the market to decide the value of Beck's new venture, they will look back and wish for the good times, when Fox had some influence over Beck to limit the topics discussed by this man.

Unleash the hounds . . .
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: John Florida on April 07, 2011, 03:14:39 PM
. . .
And that's just BS. Limbaugh has three hours a day and is one of the most influential voices out there. Not just with conservatives. He influences things way outside of conservative circles.

Perhaps Beck has come full circle and is beginning to realize that it's more about quality than it is about quantity when it comes to influence. Certainly he has enough money by now so perhaps, for him, it's about influence.

OK, here's the deal on Beck. He has all the money he needs, so he has been blessed with the opportunity and the freedom to unleash his creative and artistic genius. As long as he was under contract to Fox, there were certain "limitations" on what he could broadcast on his television show.

With the news that Beck and Fox are parting ways at the end of his contract, the Left is almost giddy with the prospect of Beck gone. As they indulge themselves with the delusional fantasy that somehow they or Media Matters were responsible, I say to them: You will be sorry. With nobody other than the market to decide the value of Beck's new venture, they will look back and wish for the good times, when Fox had some influence over Beck to limit the topics discussed by this man.

Unleash the hounds . . .

 Like Beck said and I posted earlier he warned them by sayinf that they will wish he was still on at 5.P.M.so it sounds like the hounds are running as we speak.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: rickl on April 07, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
In the 10-minute snippet of the radio show I heard today, Glenn and the gang were having a lot of fun with the media coverage of his leaving Fox.

Like I said, I haven't seen the TV show, but is he as funny as he is on the radio?  Seriously, he's better than many professional comedians.  Sometimes he'll be discussing a deadly serious topic and drop in an offhand remark that is side-splitting.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: BigAlSouth on April 07, 2011, 05:31:57 PM
In the 10-minute snippet of the radio show I heard today, Glenn and the gang were having a lot of fun with the media coverage of his leaving Fox.

Like I said, I haven't seen the TV show, but is he as funny as he is on the radio?  Seriously, he's better than many professional comedians.  Sometimes he'll be discussing a deadly serious topic and drop in an offhand remark that is side-splitting.

Personally? I think his radio show is a hoot. I think I wet myself when Beck, Stu and Pat reviewed the 2010 election results. Happy days are here again . . .

Happy Days are Here Again - Glen Beck Radio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7imejrYNqyA#ws)
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Predator Don on April 07, 2011, 05:45:14 PM
Beck unleashed.....You silly, silly liberals. Can't see the forrest for the trees.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: John Florida on April 07, 2011, 06:32:18 PM
Man I don't know who the hell that guy in the background is but he's just nuts!!I can just see Beck without an filters on him. Dear God what have they done!!!I don't even know what the hell smilie I can use for this one.
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Damn_Lucky on April 07, 2011, 06:43:48 PM
 ::gaah::And I'm leaving planet earth! ::cussing::
Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 07, 2011, 07:32:29 PM
In the 10-minute snippet of the radio show I heard today, Glenn and the gang were having a lot of fun with the media coverage of his leaving Fox.

Like I said, I haven't seen the TV show, but is he as funny as he is on the radio?  Seriously, he's better than many professional comedians.  Sometimes he'll be discussing a deadly serious topic and drop in an offhand remark that is side-splitting.

Personally? I think his radio show is a hoot. I think I wet myself when Beck, Stu and Pat reviewed the 2010 election results. Happy days are here again . . .

Happy Days are Here Again - Glen Beck Radio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7imejrYNqyA#ws)

Thanks, I needed that.

Title: Re: HUh?! Beck Leaving Fox?!
Post by: Damn_Lucky on April 07, 2011, 08:07:01 PM
  I've heard him say multiple times if he was reduced to standing on a street-corner to "tell it", that's what he'd do.

And that's just BS. Limbaugh has three hours a day and is one of the most influential voices out there. Not just with conservatives. He influences things way outside of conservative circles.

Perhaps Beck has come full circle and is beginning to realize that it's more about quality than it is about quantity when it comes to influence. Certainly he has enough money by now so perhaps, for him, it's about influence.


Remember that when the sh*t hits the fan!  ::bashing::