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Economy / Re: On steel and aluminum tariffs .......
« Last post by Pandora on April 16, 2018, 09:35:36 PM »

That was a little jargony and I didn't understand all of it.

The RINO's suck and are getting their ass kicked. How's that?

Elected Republicans can either embrace him or pack their bags like Paul Ryan. Trump is pulling the mainstream toward him. If you like him and trust him then that must feel great. I don't like him or trust him and I grieve for what was once a great party.

The DC establishment hates his guts and they (along with the lamestream media) have done EVERYTHING in their power to subvert/destroy Trump. And yet he gets more popular by the day. The American people are tired of everything about the DC swamp and the establishment. They are on a search and destroy mission to root out the ruling elite.

Your mourning of the "Republican" party that hasn't done sh!t in decades just shows how you've been drinking from the MSM way too much.

Yeah, the concern troll trolls.  It's a self-admitted "liberal" so, so much for the "once a great party".
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Economy / Re: On steel and aluminum tariffs .......
« Last post by Alphabet Soup on April 16, 2018, 09:20:00 PM »
Why would anyone mourn the 'old' GOP?  GHWB? GWB? Romney? Mccain?

One of my favorite moments was in the GOP debates where Trump was the only one one stage who was not a warmonger. Of course that upset the military industrial complex so all we hear now is about Russia.

Another moment was where Trump said that the GOP was now the workers party and Bernie's head likely exploded.  The fact that the Dems and GOP had both crapped on US workers was laid bare.

Dhimmicrats would mourn the old incontinent GOPe - because their feckless and ineffectual manner allowed the progs to destroy the fabric that is our union.

It's time to restore now.
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Economy / Re: On steel and aluminum tariffs .......
« Last post by Pablo de Fleurs on April 16, 2018, 08:06:07 PM »

That was a little jargony and I didn't understand all of it.

The RINO's suck and are getting their ass kicked. How's that?

Elected Republicans can either embrace him or pack their bags like Paul Ryan. Trump is pulling the mainstream toward him. If you like him and trust him then that must feel great. I don't like him or trust him and I grieve for what was once a great party.

The DC establishment hates his guts and they (along with the lamestream media) have done EVERYTHING in their power to subvert/destroy Trump. And yet he gets more popular by the day. The American people are tired of everything about the DC swamp and the establishment. They are on a search and destroy mission to root out the ruling elite.

Your mourning of the "Republican" party that hasn't done sh!t in decades just shows how you've been drinking from the MSM way too much.

"The Establishment" is a term that I don't think has a precise definition. Abstractions are only helpful if you can trace them back to their literal meanings. Could you re-phrase that in terms of concrete people or institutions?

Who specifically are the "DC swamp and establishment" and why do they "hate his guts"?

Some folks speak to hear themselves talk. This l'il Greek pecks @ the keyboard to see himself "published" online.
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Sounds like it will be memorable in the sense the Halloween Storm was memorable.

I feel for you.

Not.



 ::pimp::
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Economy / Re: On steel and aluminum tariffs .......
« Last post by ToddF on April 16, 2018, 07:53:05 PM »
If Rick Wilson and Bill "Captain Stubing" Kristol had a bastard child...

One of my ongoing theories of life is that Poli Sci graduates with R's after their name are ever bit as douchey as Poli Sci graduates with D's after their name.  I have yet to be proven wrong.
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I wish all the big banks were broken up into the size we had when I was growing up.

If it's too big to fail, it's too big.
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It seems we're not entirely in agreement on this though. You say "I do not think it is entirely clear, that what we have today is even a two party system."

Really?  The last person to win the Presidency who was not either a Republican or a Democrat was Abraham Lincoln in 1864 (then a member of the short lived "national unity party". That means that in the last 154 years (well over half the age of the Republic) the presidency has only been held by members of one of those two parties. I disagree. Like it or not for all practical purposes we have a two-party system.

What defines a party?  The label or what they do?  The GOP hasn't even been able to repeal the ACA given all of the levers of power, even though a large and vocal  part of their base wanted them to do, and what many of them promised to do once in office.. and they haven't for decades.   

What we have is the illusion of a two party system, but one of the parties continuously refuses to represent the people who put them in office, and instead only maintains the status quo  until they loose power. They garner votes only by "sucking the least" and voters don't so much  support them but vote for them  because the feel the consequences of letting a Democrat win would be worse.  Trump was more a "F the system" vote than anything. What it really means that 1/2 of the country has given up on resolving our politcal differences via the ballot box, and are simply waiting for the economic collapse and/or civil war to sort it all out.   OR did you think gun and ammo sales are what they are because of simple paranoia?

The thing is - when the trust in fundamental institutions is undermined, the rules we agreed to aren't followed, and/or applied selectively,  eventually people being hurt by those actions decide they aren't going to follow the rules either. Hypocrisy is dangerous not because right and wrong become blurred, but because large number of people decide they don't care.  Any history book will suggest within a matter of pages how this sort of thing ends.  And a quick look at the Clinton archipelago gives you a pretty good idea about the tactical situation when that occurs.


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Economy / Re: On steel and aluminum tariffs .......
« Last post by patentlymn on April 16, 2018, 07:39:26 PM »
Why would anyone mourn the 'old' GOP?  GHWB? GWB? Romney? Mccain?

One of my favorite moments was in the GOP debates where Trump was the only one one stage who was not a warmonger. Of course that upset the military industrial complex so all we hear now is about Russia.

Another moment was where Trump said that the GOP was now the workers party and Bernie's head likely exploded.  The fact that the Dems and GOP had both crapped on US workers was laid bare.
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The CPSB is a constitutional monstrosity. Unlike the Vietnam war, it cannot be defunded by congress.
Congress and the DOJ do not exercize what authority they do have over the financial industry.
I read Bailout by Barofsky(?) where he documented how the treasury dept acts to protect the banks from the citizens, not the other way around.  I read there are 5 finance industry lobbyists for every member of congress.

I wish all the big banks were broken up into the size we had when I was growing up.
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Economy / Re: On steel and aluminum tariffs .......
« Last post by AlanS on April 16, 2018, 06:47:13 PM »

That was a little jargony and I didn't understand all of it.

The RINO's suck and are getting their ass kicked. How's that?

Elected Republicans can either embrace him or pack their bags like Paul Ryan. Trump is pulling the mainstream toward him. If you like him and trust him then that must feel great. I don't like him or trust him and I grieve for what was once a great party.

The DC establishment hates his guts and they (along with the lamestream media) have done EVERYTHING in their power to subvert/destroy Trump. And yet he gets more popular by the day. The American people are tired of everything about the DC swamp and the establishment. They are on a search and destroy mission to root out the ruling elite.

Your mourning of the "Republican" party that hasn't done sh!t in decades just shows how you've been drinking from the MSM way too much.
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