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Radical Islam/GWOT / Re: POSOTUS Waxes Euphoric Over The Terrorist Cult
« Last post by Pandora on February 05, 2016, 08:09:34 AM »
Who?  Anybody who has ever heard Obongo speak about anything; his wont is to twist everything to suit his purposes.
Radical Islam/GWOT / Re: POSOTUS Waxes Euphoric Over The Terrorist Cult
« Last post by Weisshaupt on February 05, 2016, 07:33:13 AM »
“Jefferson and John Adams had their own copies of the Koran,” he said. “Benjamin Franklin wrote, that even if the Mufti of Constantinople were to send a missionary to preach to us, he would find a pulpit at his service.”

Put into perspective:
And it being found inconvenient to assemble in the open air, subject to its inclemencies, the building of a house to meet in was no sooner proposed, and persons appointed to receive contributions, but sufficient sums were soon received to procure the ground and erect the building, which was one hundred feet long and seventy board, about the size of Westminster Hall; and the work was carried on with such spirit as to be finished in a much shorter time than could have been expected. Both house and ground were vested and in trustees, expressly for the use of any preacher of any religious persuasion who might desire to say something to the people at Philadelphia; the design in building not being to accommodate any particular sect, but the inhabitants in general; so that even if the Mufti of Constantinople were to send a missionary to preach Mohammedanism to us, he would find a pulpit at his service.

From that sentence, I gather Muzzies must have been as popular then as they are now.

Quite.  Muslim Pirates were the first enemy America had after the revolution. They would capture and enslave everyone on the ship. Multiple successful attempts proved to the French and British  this might be a wonderful way to enlist more navy crew and began to do the same.

All Ben Franklin was saying is that in America we would tolerate a Muslim preaching. Not that anyone in their right mind would listen. We were trying to sign a treaty to stop the harrasment of America shipping when most of these statements were made, because when you don't have a viable Navy,  preety please is your best argument, and calling the Muslims satanic evil buttf**king barbarians  is unlikely to help the process along, even if that is what the Fouding Fathrs thought...and yes you can find that sentiment in their writing too.

Just more  revisionist history and "current truth" from the Statists. Who could have seen it coming?

Politics/Legislation/Elections / Re: WTF happened to Sara Palin
« Last post by Libertas on February 05, 2016, 07:23:07 AM »
Populist, outsider...these traits have always been with Palin...the conservative part just came along with the Libertarian wagon...this is who she always has been at heart...a Libertarian who believes in God instead of being hostile to God.  It is just being brought more clearly into focus now.

Such is the hunger for an authentic voice that at one time we all would crawl over broken glass to defend her.

This is just reality in latter day's not going to get any better.
Politics/Legislation/Elections / Re: Another one bites the dust
« Last post by Libertas on February 05, 2016, 07:19:23 AM »
It's hard to gin up much interest...and hope died a long time ago and 8 years ago acquired a definition that is a complete perversion so profound that even seeing or hearing that word sends me into a rage...and I wrote the damned thing just now!

Radical Islam/GWOT / Re: POSOTUS Waxes Euphoric Over The Terrorist Cult
« Last post by Libertas on February 05, 2016, 07:16:05 AM »

Owning such texts obviously doesn't mean I "endorse" Islam, the Koran or their worldview. I does mean I want to make accurate statements about same, so that any opposed to what i do, do not attempt to undermine my statements on the basis that they're false or misleading (which they'll do anyway - but at least I can cite my sources rather than simply say "it's my opinion.:")

Of course not.

I have a copy of the koran - along with Hitler's Mein Kampf and Alinksy's Rules for Radicals. Just owning evil books doesn't make one evil. I prefer to know my enemies.

Throw a couple korans into the trunk...emergency buttwipe.  Get the soft paper though.
Radical Islam/GWOT / Re: POSOTUS Waxes Euphoric Over The Terrorist Cult
« Last post by Libertas on February 05, 2016, 07:15:15 AM »
From my readings those guys read the Koran as an aid in knowing thy enemy. They got the proper understanding and broke out the hardware to deal with them.

Winner winner, chicken dinner!

Our Founders were children of the Enlightenment, they were well read in all of the classics and the views of their contemporaries and those of the Renaissance period, they read for knowledge and understanding not to reinforce a particular cultish view.  They drew upon the lessons good and bad from history and gave us the best form of society most conducive to helping make Liberty and Freedom last as long as possible.  They knew somewhere along the line shallow self-interested megalomaniacs would come along and f**k it all up...and here we are.  We'll have to start from scratch again once the dust settles and the blood is all washed away.
2nd Amendment/Firearms / Re: NICS Checks update
« Last post by Libertas on February 05, 2016, 07:07:53 AM »
The more guns in private hands the better.

Eff the Fascists!
Science, Technology, & Medicine / Re: Remember Brendan Eich?
« Last post by Libertas on February 05, 2016, 07:06:46 AM »
It seems we go through periods of really terrible web browsers.   Currently we are in one of those periods.   All the majors have major problems,  either by design,  or lack of debugging.   All of them are terribly bloated (though that isn't only a browser problem)  Some of other terrible periods was about 1996 and 2002ish.    1996 was due mostly to microsoft playing catch up by dumping the turd of a browser of internet exploder on the world.  2002 when security was becoming a problem (largely due again to microsoft lack of security). 

I wish adobe flash and most java scripting would vanish from the internet.   Both drive me nuts at times.  Neither work right,  and are worse when they are used in bad ways (like ads).   On both old and new computers,  any os and browser it seems.   Even brings a computer with 8 gb ram to its knees.

I'll give a hearty AMEN! to that.
Yeah.  Followed by a wave of diseased babies that will further strain the healthcare system.  The pace and number of things that can crash us is increasing.
Politics/Legislation/Elections / Re: WTF happened to Sara Palin
« Last post by IronDioPriest on February 04, 2016, 11:51:55 PM »
I wish I knew. There was a (relatively brief) time I would have crawled over broken glass to defend her. She's changed. I don't know if the real her came out, or if the realities of the hatred she faced changed her.

But it's obvious she's all-in for the populist, and her conservative principles are reduced to lip service. It's to the point now where I cringe when I hear her voice.
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