Per earlier point, perhaps we should rename this is the fantasy thread.
America as it was is gone, it is not coming back, not without blood.
My folks are deep in denial, they think they have a choice, that their voice/vote matters. They are anybody-but-trumpers who loath Clinton, which I guess means they are voting third party, which means Clinton wins, so no matter what Clinton wins....so whose voice/vote matters?
Not ours, so what's the point? Crash this joke, end the charade...and let the only fight that matters commence.