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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 12:21:01 PM » |
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LINKSupreme Court justices took a dim view of the Obama administration’s claim that it can stop Arizona from enforcing immigration laws, telling government lawyers during oral argument Wednesday that the state appears to want to push federal officials, not conflict with them. The scuttlebutt is that it looks like an easy win for Arizona. Guess we'll see, but this is pretty encouraging.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 01:05:55 PM » |
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Could be a win for AZ and the 10th Amendment overall. Pat, er Kagan, recused herself. Even the wise-Latina asking tough questions, but who knows, that could all be for show. If Kennedy holds it should be no worse than a 5-3 vote.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 01:20:22 PM » |
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[The banking catastrophe] can happen anywhere in the world, [here] because you have more people that vote for a living than people that work for a living.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 01:33:39 PM » |
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LINKSupreme Court justices took a dim view of the Obama administration’s claim that it can stop Arizona from enforcing immigration laws, telling government lawyers during oral argument Wednesday that the state appears to want to push federal officials, not conflict with them. The scuttlebutt is that it looks like an easy win for Arizona. Guess we'll see, but this is pretty encouraging. According to Mark Levin, the Feds do not hold plenary power on this issue, it is held with the states. The Feds have no way, nor authority, once illegals are over the border and past the agents there, to police them everywhere. It's up to the states' police forces to do that and to get ICE to then do its job. The nonsense of "discrimination" is the false-flag raised by those who do not want our immigration laws enforced. |
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 01:42:26 PM » |
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Good point on Levin's part.
Basically the Obama Regime is taking the point of view that they are exceeding their authority, basically denying a state has any right to enforce laws on its books related to immigration that are not in conflict with Federal statutes. Since AZ is merely trying to live up to their end of the deal and aiding the Federal government at the same time in executing its own laws, drawing the conclusion AZ is in conflict with Federal statutes is DOA, but stubbornly The Regime clings to the belief in Almighty Centralized Power trumps uppity states. Pretty piss-poor argument, that! But yet one more revealing look behind the Left's statist curtain.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 02:24:02 PM » |
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So this could be an Obamastep toward a Federal Police force if Az fails.
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[The banking catastrophe] can happen anywhere in the world, [here] because you have more people that vote for a living than people that work for a living.
The wealthy in the United States should “be prepared to lose 20 to 30 percent. I think you’re lucky if you don’t lose your life.” - Mark Faber
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2012, 02:44:17 PM » |
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Isn't he already doing that in Houston via HomSec? (We had a thread on that recently) As long as Statists find fellow bretheren in LE community, that crap will continue until someone says NO. I would think a citizen challenge after an arrest by a Fed on city/state law offense could be pushed up to SCOTUS, in the meantime...it still happens to be going on!  |
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2012, 09:02:09 PM » |
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http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/25/another-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-day-for-obama-administration-at-supreme-court/How do you know you’ve had a bad day at the Supreme Court — or in Donald Verilli’s case, another bad day? When a justice who is presumably sympathetic to your case tells you your argument “isn’t selling very well” and you might want to try coming up with another, you’re probably having a bad day. Once again, the rough treatment of the Solicitor General in a case brought by the Obama administration seems to signal that the White House will suffer a big loss:
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2012, 09:11:40 PM » |
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Obama administration-------------------------->not the A team.
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[The banking catastrophe] can happen anywhere in the world, [here] because you have more people that vote for a living than people that work for a living.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 09:54:01 PM » |
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Hell CO, they ain't even the freaking 'C' team at this point...
...I don't think the coach would even consider them bench warmers.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 07:42:38 AM » |
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2012, 05:01:12 PM » |
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http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/27/11432455-solicitor-generals-performance-inspires-both-critics-and-defenders?lite“It seems to me, though, that the president is in a kind of complicated political position here. Let’s assume that the court strikes down the individual mandate and assume that the court sides with Arizona,” Owens said. “If he replaces Verrilli, it makes it difficult to make the Supreme Court look like it is activist -- and it seems he’s going to try to do that as he runs for re-election. Instead it looks as though Verrilli sort of lost the case.”
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2012, 05:06:10 PM » |
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Verilli may be a perfectly good lawyer, but this IS the Supreme Court, not the minors, and he's had to attempt the proverbial lipsticking of a pig in both cases. The fault isn't his, it's what his boss sent him to defend.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2012, 05:41:50 PM » |
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The fault isn't his, it's what his boss sent him to defend. I gotta agree with ya here Pan. He is after all, only human. Not a 'sort of a god' like his boss. You can only do so much with a lump of crap... |
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2012, 02:15:23 PM » |
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Exactly. Their positions are absolutely untenable. Obviously any attempt to twist them into serious, cogent arguments will end up looking farcical.
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