Congress was never meant to be a career!

[MacWell™]

The United States Congress is, as we know, made up of 2 different branches, the House of Representatives and the Senate. My biggest gripe is with the House. The house was intended to be made up of citizens from all walks of life, a cross section of Americans. This way, no matter what your occupation is, there would probably be someone in the House that did the same thing as you, therefore better able to understand what and why your concerns about YOUR government are, or are not worthy of discussion and or debate. What the House has evolved into is nothing more than a den of lawyers and thieves who's only interest is their next election, or stock tip, or fundraiser. This is why we've been invaded by the current occupier of our White House. Career politicians have brought America to the brink of extinction. These parasites have no interest in changing our government, why should they? They make up their own rules, their pay, their benefits etc. They make laws that we the people MUST obey or face punishment at the same time exempting themselves from the same laws. ( I have to leave now, but will continue my diatribe later)

[MacWell™]

Continuing:

The house of Representatives was intended to represent the average voter. I guess if you're a lawyer, the House has got you covered, if not, well, you're on your own. Lawyers, lawyers, and more lawyers. It seems like everyone in DC is, was, or will be a lawyer. Now, remember the 3000+ page bill for healthcare?, (snicker), which was passed in the dark. I'd bet that someone could write a good healthcare bill in less than 100 pages. Then, to add insult to injury, the American public was told by no less than the 3rd person in line to the President that "we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it". The Speaker of the body who is supposed to (represent) we the people, had the audacity to stand behind her podium, as speaker, and tell we Americans that we could find the answers that we should've known before the bill was even discussed, that she would tell us when she was damn good and ready, if at all. I ask you, is that attitude from any elected official acceptable? Well it isn't to me. I've hammered this home here before, and have said many of the same things on as many blogs as I can find.

If we the people are to save America, we MUST come out in droves this November.

We have two very important tasks.

We MUST remove all of the people who believe America needs to be "fundamentally transformed".

We must also begin to remove all career politicians from OUR Congress.

We the people, the silent majority cannot, for the sake of our children, our country, and our future, remain silent any longer.

The only thing at stake is America herself.

MacWell™
(aka) johnfromjersey

[Pandora]

Also from Jersey.

I'm a housewife now; what's the first thing would be said about me if I decided to run?  "Not qualified".

[Alphabet Soup]

Greetings MacWell™ (say, how do I get me one of them tm thingies?!) - it's good to see you posting again.

I had a similar discussion with a lefty not too long ago and hoped to break through the partisan barrier. My original comment was along the lines of "Throw the rascals out!" and he (or she) agreed with me. I furthered that I would be willing to vote out all incumbents in favor of new blood regardless of party and I lost him. It seems that throw the bums out only goes about so far.

So my question is - why should we place ourselves and our party at a disadvantage in favor of clearing the decks when we know that their side will continue "more of the same"? As much as I'd like to retire a crap-weasel like McCain for example, but we would lose strategic advantage in several way if we did.

How far does the nobility of calling for reformation go when we follow it up with "OK - you first".

(my questions are rhetorical in nature and not necessarily aimed at you).

[Sectionhand]

Anyone but Stymie ! That's for starters .

[MacWell™]

First, to answer Pandora:

Exactly dear, you're a homemaker, exactly what we the people need in DC, not another lawyer.

We have been conned into believing that one must have little letters after one's name to be taken seriously, that only certain people are qualified, people who've gone to an ivy league college. They always talk about the "best and the brightest", need only to apply. Well Pandora? do you not consider what you do to be important? Don't you believe that "homemakers" deserve to be heard?, deserve to be represented?

[Pandora]

First, to answer Pandora:

Exactly dear, you're a homemaker, exactly what we the people need in DC, not another lawyer.

We have been conned into believing that one must have little letters after one's name to be taken seriously, that only certain people are qualified, people who've gone to an ivy league college. They always talk about the "best and the brightest", need only to apply. Well Pandora? do you not consider what you do to be important? Don't you believe that "homemakers" deserve to be heard?, deserve to be represented?

I didn't say that was my opinion, it's theirs.  Sarah Palin started her political life as a housewife.

[IronDioPriest]

I agree that politics was never designed to be a career. I also see how such a thing manifested and metastasized in the absence of specific law or constitutional amendment prohibiting it. Power is attractive, especially to the unscrupulous.

I understand the "throw all the bums out" sentiment, and I also understand the drive for term limits. The problem I see with both is that the electorate turning against a politician at the ballot box is the only thing that holds a politician accountable, and even that doesn't work well. Remove that, and there is nothing.

If a politician knew that they were out in X number of years no matter what, then politics would be populated with rookie radical ideologues who go into politics in order to pursue their radicalism with no fear whatsoever of going against the will of the electorate. Lying to get elected and reneging on every promise would have no consequence, because the damage would be done, and the person would be statutorily term-limited from office - no consequence, nor even the potential for a consequence. That is far less perfect than what we have right now.

I understand many politicians behave as if there is no accountability already - the majority of them on the Left. But imagine DC populated with ideologues whose only mission was to pursue the agenda of their ideology as quickly as possible with the certainty that there would be no electoral accountability, ever.

Politicians under strict term limits would see that brick wall date as their final opportunity to accomplish as much of their agenda as possible, and they would cast aside all caution until that end.

[Glock32]

In a secular technocracy like we have been maneuvered into becoming, these careerist politicians and bureaucrats are the equivalent of the High Priests in some arcane theocracy. In the Middle Ages the vast majority of the population was illiterate. The clerical caste told them what the Bible said, and they would have no way of knowing otherwise even if they could actually look at the text. Is it so different now? We have a legislature enacting bills that are thousands of pages in length, in a language so circuitous and esoteric that even the criminals who enact them openly admit they don't know what any of it means without a team of lawyers interpreting.

A society that permits this is a sick and decrepit society. If we are unsuccessful in halting the slide, one of the only remaining pleasures will be the pure schadenfreude of watching all the starry-eyed enablers ground up under the boot of the very tyranny they begged for.

[Libertas]

In a secular technocracy like we have been maneuvered into becoming, these careerist politicians and bureaucrats are the equivalent of the High Priests in some arcane theocracy. In the Middle Ages the vast majority of the population was illiterate. The clerical caste told them what the Bible said, and they would have no way of knowing otherwise even if they could actually look at the text. Is it so different now? We have a legislature enacting bills that are thousands of pages in length, in a language so circuitous and esoteric that even the criminals who enact them openly admit they don't know what any of it means without a team of lawyers interpreting.

A society that permits this is a sick and decrepit society. If we are unsuccessful in halting the slide, one of the only remaining pleasures will be the pure schadenfreude of watching all the starry-eyed enablers ground up under the boot of the very tyranny they begged for.

The likely result.

It would be nice to think one could witness a movement of such stupendous proportions that We the People regain control of our government and our destiny and sweep all useless and counterproductive laws from the books and reintroduce Founding Principles of Republican government and no law being placed above the constitution...but there is so much detritus to overcome that even a cadre of people with the best intentions and 20 years of uninterrupted diligence could be hard-pressed to get us to that glorious point.  It may take a full, and unfortunately violent, reset to get there.  And the clock is all but run out already...

[IronDioPriest]

Well said Glock.

[MacWell™]

I agree that politics was never designed to be a career. I also see how such a thing manifested and metastasized in the absence of specific law or constitutional amendment prohibiting it. Power is attractive, especially to the unscrupulous.

I understand the "throw all the bums out" sentiment, and I also understand the drive for term limits. The problem I see with both is that the electorate turning against a politician at the ballot box is the only thing that holds a politician accountable, and even that doesn't work well. Remove that, and there is nothing.

If a politician knew that they were out in X number of years no matter what, then politics would be populated with rookie radical ideologues who go into politics in order to pursue their radicalism with no fear whatsoever of going against the will of the electorate. Lying to get elected and reneging on every promise would have no consequence, because the damage would be done, and the person would be statutorily term-limited from office - no consequence, nor even the potential for a consequence. That is far less perfect than what we have right now.

I understand many politicians behave as if there is no accountability already - the majority of them on the Left. But imagine DC populated with ideologues whose only mission was to pursue the agenda of their ideology as quickly as possible with the certainty that there would be no electoral accountability, ever.

Politicians under strict term limits would see that brick wall date as their final opportunity to accomplish as much of their agenda as possible, and they would cast aside all caution until that end.

I disagree, we need that kind of real debate on the issues we all must face. I agree that it's not going to happen over night, but if we the people don't act soon, (and I mean November), we may not have the chance to rid their kind from the political discourse. What we need is to hear from all the electorate, not just those who  have lobby bucks to spend. We need to weed out the leeches from Congress and replace them with any profession but lawyers. I'd rather see a dishwasher from NY get the job than another lawyer. We need to hear what regular
Americans think and feel, how they think their government would make their lives as easy as possible. Debate must be on CSPAN, with exception for security reasons, all debate on all bills must be shown live on CSPAN, and be held for a year.
No matter what we do at the ballot box, if the same rules are allowed to govern their behavior, we'll get the same old crooks. We must DEMAND that we want real change in DC. No more backroom deals, no more hiding behind some phony exemption.
After all, is it not OUR government?
Or have we already lost her?
What do you think?

[Pandora]

I think we don't need "government would make their lives as easy as possible".  I don't want my life made easy by the government; that entails life being made harder for some by the same entity.

I want government OUT of my life.  I want it to not care if my life is easy or hard, just to see that it's mine to direct.

PERIOD.

[Libertas]

I think we don't need "government would make their lives as easy as possible".  I don't want my life made easy by the government; that entails life being made harder for some by the same entity.

I want government OUT of my life.  I want it to not care if my life is easy or hard, just to see that it's mine to direct.

PERIOD.

Boy are YOU (and WE) living in the wrong era!

 

[Pandora]

I think we don't need "government would make their lives as easy as possible".  I don't want my life made easy by the government; that entails life being made harder for some by the same entity.

I want government OUT of my life.  I want it to not care if my life is easy or hard, just to see that it's mine to direct.

PERIOD.

Boy are YOU (and WE) living in the wrong era!

 

Boy, don't I know it.  Gunsmith and I say it all the time, we were born several decades out of step.

We need to replace our front porch, and make it bigger when we do so.  We need A PERMIT.  For OUR SAFETY.   

[Libertas]

I think we don't need "government would make their lives as easy as possible".  I don't want my life made easy by the government; that entails life being made harder for some by the same entity.

I want government OUT of my life.  I want it to not care if my life is easy or hard, just to see that it's mine to direct.

PERIOD.

Boy are YOU (and WE) living in the wrong era!

 

Boy, don't I know it.  Gunsmith and I say it all the time, we were born several decades out of step.

We need to replace our front porch, and make it bigger when we do so.  We need A PERMIT.  For OUR SAFETY.   

Permits!

How many decks have I helped build that are so overbuilt, a torndao will level the homes before the deck is even threatened?  Lots!

Building inspection is as big a racket as anything!