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« on: April 04, 2012, 08:29:44 AM »

After decades of having to put up with liberal firearms legislation in Canada, this week will likely see the end of their ruinous Long Gun Registry, which will dump that boondoggle.  Canadian firearms owners are reloading for the challenge for other silly firearms laws which we  will remove one by one.   

I recently read that. your VP is trying to use the Florida shooting to force restrictions on the US,  I can tell you from bitter experience that these laws are harder to get rid of than a  tick.  Good luck in this future fight.
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 08:35:32 AM »

Congratulations on getting rid of the gun registration scheme up there.

Never fear, the VP is blowing smoke; dismantling obstructions to the Second Amendment here are about the only progress the Right HAS made.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 09:19:07 AM »

That long gun law up there was nuts, glad to see it go.

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 09:29:34 AM »

The idea of registering rifles and shotguns as part of some kind of crime-prevention measure goes 180º against common sense.

Disarming people in itself goes against common sense from a liberty perspective and for all the reasons our 2A was established, but at LEAST those trying to ban handguns can draw some tenuous correlation between handguns and crimes. The same cannot be said for long guns, unless one is trying to prevent the occasional accident, and even then... a registry?

I never understood it, and I hope this repeal sticks for the sake of our friends to the North.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 10:02:53 AM »

As with the guns themselves, who does a registry target?  The criminals with guns?  No!  Law-abiding citizens?  Why are politicans and LEO's so fearful of law-abiding citizens?  Why are law-abiding citizens treated like criminals who are not registering guns?  Why are criminals carrying guns?  Could it be because the authorities have disarmed law-abiding citizens, thus tilting the "playing field" to the criminals?  A criminal is not going to stop being a criminal, NO MATTER HOW HARD POLITICIANS PUNISH LAW-ABIDING CICTIZENS BY DISARMING THEM!  And Shame, SHAME on ANY LEO backing these absurdly insane politicians or thier retarded laws!
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 10:40:05 AM »


I recently read that. your VP is trying to use the Florida shooting to force restrictions on the US...

Don't be too concerned. Our veep is still trying to puzzle out the correct way to hang a roll of toilet paper. He is still trying to figure out if it's "sock, sock, shoe, shoe" or "sock, shoe, sock, shoe."
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 05:30:34 PM »

The Canadian Long Gun Registry was voted out of law tonight at 5:30 in the Canadian Senate.  In a vote of 50 to 27 the legislation to abolish this travesty was approved.   Thank you
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2012, 05:34:05 PM »

 bustamove   newyear
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2012, 05:41:43 PM »

 bustamove two decades I've been working to dump this travesty of legislation,  but we are not done yet...   we've had a half a century of liberal social engineering to get rid of.. bustamove
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2012, 05:58:15 PM »


Y'all are on the right track soon we'll
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 07:28:35 PM »

How hard is to become a Canadian citizen??  If the crap keeps up down here maybe I'll move to "The Great White North".
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 07:44:30 PM »

 newyear


Fantastic news!

As an aside did anyone hear PM Harper at the press conference when he was in Washington a few days ago? He made clear that Canada was going to exploit its petroleum wealth whether the USA plans to benefit from it or not. He has previously quipped that the US can make itself into a giant national park if it wants to, but Canada will not be following suit. It's when foreign leaders like this are here that Obongo's illegitimacy really sticks out like a sore thumb. The same was apparent when Netanyahu was in Washington.
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2012, 09:25:02 PM »

Glock, there's no one in Canada who wants to market oil to a scabby dictatorship like China, but we are a resource based economy.  When the PM stated that they were opening the markets in Asia, he means all of asia, including India, Australia etc.   This unfortunately was because of  political nonsense going on with our best trading partners and regrettably it does have consequences.   However on the plus side, its good hard cash being paid by the Chinese, which is going to be spent in the US, by Canadians as tourist dollars and/or direct purchasing.  On some levels, you could say the credit  dollars that the democrats  are giving to China, are being returned to your country, abet through Canada first.

FYI, our Prime Minister has a history a lot like your Tea Party.  He started out in an ultra conservative party called the reform party.  They were created due to far to many, Red Tories (RINOs), which were the entrenched 'right wing party' and ultimately were able to form a government by amalgamation of  the right wing into the new Conservative Party.  The rest is history..   most Canadians believe that if the University elites, and the left wing  media hate him, he's gotta be ok.

As to the questions about Canadian citizenship, I couldn't tell you, but I am astonished by the number of people who have dual Canadian American citizenship, so it can't be too difficult.
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2012, 11:33:35 PM »

How hard is to become a Canadian citizen??  If the crap keeps up down here maybe I'll move to "The Great White North".

If things go up in flames down here Canada's going to
have a tremendous illegal immigration problem and it
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2012, 11:43:35 PM »

How hard is to become a Canadian citizen??  If the crap keeps up down here maybe I'll move to "The Great White North".

If things go up in flames down here Canada's going to
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Bring lots of money. When Hong Kong fell to the ChiComms the property prices in Vancouver went nuts. If America falls then the price of entry will be through the roof.
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2012, 08:42:35 PM »

robins111, can you give us a rundown on C68? I'm reading some comments about it over at SDA. Is this some new onerous anti-gun regulatory scheme? Is it a bureaucratic retaliation for the end of the long gun registry?

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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2012, 10:25:25 PM »

Glock, the inventor of bill c-68 was a newly elected liberal socialists by the name of Allen Rock... He with a cadre of radical feminists, were able to use the actions of a school shooter named Marc Lepine, who shot 14 women in a university called ecol polytech in Montreal.  This event took place about 4 years before Rock was elected and had already sponsored some restrictive legislation, (mag limitations, no 'assault rifles etc)

However, after Rock was elected, the liberals of the day saw a wedge issue, which would pit urban against rural, eastern Canada against the west.  They particularly generated conflict between Quebec and English Canada, as this incident took place in Quebec.  By failing to support this draconian legislation, you were disrespecting french Canadians...  at least that was the meme.

The best simile I can give you for what followed would be if Obama got that Brady chick to write your gun laws.  In our case the woman's name was Wendy Cukier, pronounced Kookier.  She and several  feminists organizations basically rewrote the firearms legislation for the then liberal majority government.  Included was such things as bans on several classes of rifles (based on appearance) banning several calibers which they declared as unneeded, banning what they considered short barrel handguns, etc.  All of these firearms were confiscated without compensation.  Further they demanded that all firearms be registered in a national database for tracking purposes.  They further made possible warrant less searches of private property.  Failure to  assist the police during these searches became a criminal offense.  Immediately after assuring firearms owners that the registration would not lead to confiscation, they began a program of reclassification of various firearms and confiscated them, again with no compensation. The long gun portion of the registry became the straw that broke the camels back and ultimately resulted in the liberal party being reduced to rump status.  The new conservative party campaigned on destroying the registry portion of c-68, which was well received by Canadians, the final part of this took place late this afternoon and the registry is essentially toast at midnight.  Basically the registry is the key for all the laws, without it, bill c68 is a hollow shell.  However the rest needs to go, and that's the next battle..
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2012, 10:34:09 PM »

Glock, as a follow up to the above, never ever allow your legislators to create a gun registry, it has no other purposes than to enable confiscation, there's no evidence that in the 17 years of its festering in Canadian law that it ever stopped a crime, nor was it ever used to convict a criminal, other than law abiding gun owners charged for paperwork violations, which were prosecuted under the criminal code of Canada... a. Felony charge in the US, for having the wrong papers.

Fight any attempt to enact such legislation,  if you don't it'll be like hell on earth.
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2012, 10:51:48 PM »


Isn't our background check a virtual registry?
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Isn't our background check a virtual registry?


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