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« on: June 04, 2012, 05:16:00 PM »

Battle of Midway: 4-7 June 1942
The Battle of Midway, fought near the Central Pacific island of Midway, is considered the decisive battle of the war in the Pacific.


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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2012, 08:32:59 PM »

Yup, often cited as the most consequential naval battle in history.  It also highlights how much luck comes into play, and knowing your own limitations.  We had three carriers protecting the entire Pacific and keeping the Japanese from invading the mainland.  Estimates at the time showed if Japan had destroyed our carriers they could have gotten as far as Chicago before bogging down.  Even if overstated, it represented a clear threat should Japan gain the upper hand.  We were fortunate to crack their naval code and learn Midway was the target and that an unknown diversion was also planned.  We were fortunate that our carriers were not sighted let alone dewstroy ed on Dec 7th, but our fuel depots and dry docks were left intact, allowing operations to continue and the Yorktown patched up and dispatched in time to be a factor at Midway.  We were fortunate the Japanese blew their French Frigate Shoals scout refueling mission, since they did that a couple months earlier and thus we had ships in the area.  We were fortunate Nagumo's air group had a hard time filling out squadrons and delayed him one day, allowing the Aleutian operation to kick in a day before Midway, when they were supposed to be simultaneous, thus enabling Nimitz to stick to his battle plan.  We were fortunate that Spruance (replacing the bed-ridden Halsey) was aggressive and not tentative in going after the enemy and fortunate that Nagumo blew his handling of carrier ops, allowing us to catch them with their pants down.  But the Japanese were a strict regimented people, and deviating from established procedures was unheard of.  Had Nagumo split his land/air attack forces by carriers and not on each carrier, he could have recovered land attack aircraft and launched sea attack aircraft simultaneously.  As it stood we took out their cream of the crop both in carriers and pilots.  They would not recover from such loses and our production was just beginning to spit out planes, ships, guns and bombs at a stagerring rate.  Their fate was sealed, but unfortunately their militaristic nature, devotion to emperor and ancestors and fanaticism too many more would die rolling them up.

Pivotal battle, controversial battle and still greatly analyzed and dissected to this day.

Good on our boys for earning the victory.

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2012, 12:29:30 AM »

 
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2012, 06:51:44 AM »

Yup.  Somebody up there was looking out for us.   Wink   thumbsup
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2012, 02:25:02 PM »

High praise also belongs to the crews of those torpedo bombers attacking the Japanese fleet.  They were absolutely decimated by Japanese fighters, but their perseverance kept the Japanese air cover down low, allowing the US dive bombers to come in virtually unopposed up high.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 03:15:02 PM »

    The Grumman "Iron Works" almost inevitably would be the supplier. Leroy Grumman, an engineer by background, helped design the torpedo bomber that would meet the navy's specs. The prototype was designated XTBF-1:
http://acepilots.com/planes/avenger.html

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http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq10-1.htm
When San Jacinto returned to Guam, the squadron, which had suffered 50 percent casualties of its pilots, was replaced and sent to the United States.

  • was commissioned as an ensign in the U.S. Naval Reserve on 9 June 1943, several days before his 19th birthday; making him the youngest naval aviator then.
  • 19 June [1944], the task force triumphed in one of the largest air battles of the war. During the return of his aircraft from the mission, Ensign Bush's aircraft made a forced water landing. The destroyer, USS Clarence K. Bronson, rescued the crew, but the plane was lost. On 25 July, Ensign Bush and another pilot received credit for sinking a small cargo ship.
  • 2 September 1944, Bush piloted one of four aircraft from VT-51 that attacked the Japanese installations on Chi Chi Jima.
  • Throughout 1944, he had flown 58 combat missions



Bush was not twenty one years old.  I imagine that the elder men in the squadron were not much older than he. 

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2012, 03:38:59 PM »

This is good:

World War II Database
Battle of Midway and the Aleutian Islands:

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Avenger photographs
http://ww2db.com/photo.php?source=all&color=all&list=search&foreigntype=A&foreigntype_id=31


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Ordinancemen loading a 1,000-pound bomb into the bombay of a TBM-1C aboard USS Intrepid,
1943-1945; note flame arrester on the plane's exhaust port

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http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=3134


ETA: The images are high resolution and may be greatly enlarged.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 07:27:17 AM »

Good stuff CO, I'll spend hours going over this stuff!   thumbsup
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