Topic: JFK Assassination Files - To release or not to release?

[Libertas]

FBI's rep is going downhill fast.

Yup!

H/T-CTH

That would be a good start...with a buttload more flushing of anti-American goons to follow in succeeding waves until no treacherous lout remains!

[Libertas]

https://rumble.com/v6jsb84-anna-paulina-luna-investigating-second-shooter-of-jfk.html

Well, isn't that an interesting preview, eh?

[Libertas]

https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-and-rep-luna-announce-republican-appointments-to-declassification-and-transparency-task-force/

Doesn't matter who the demonazis appoint...all they do is throw tantrums, toss their pooh in the air and make fools of themselves...

This will be no different...

[Libertas]

Sundance outlines his process again...it is good...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/03/13/the-process-president-trump-can-use-to-release-any-information-regardless-of-classification-level/

I hope he sent this to them.

But I would add a lot more to the requests to include the Seth Rich files, Epstein files, Watergate files, all files related to Extraterrestrials/UAP's/recovered alien tech, etc, Gulf of Tonkin files, all files regarding chemtrails or any form of weather modification, Euromaidan files, 2017 Vegas shooting files, Tea Party files, 9/11 files, Hunter Biden files, Special Consul report on Joe Biden, COVID-19 & mRNA vaccine files, climate change files, ...

Go for the full meal deal, heck why not?  May not get another shot...

[paulh]

I remember walking to the mess hall in Kaneohe after an over nighter. Couldn't believe it. Fast forward to Vietnam.

[Syzygy]

So,  you had the chance to kill baby Obama,  Paul.  Knowing then what you know now,  would you have?

[paulh]

Interesting. Was he even there is 63?

[patentlymn]

Sundance outlines his process again...it is good...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/03/13/the-process-president-trump-can-use-to-release-any-information-regardless-of-classification-level/

I hope he sent this to them.

But I would add a lot more to the requests to include the Seth Rich files, Epstein files, Watergate files, all files related to Extraterrestrials/UAP's/recovered alien tech, etc, Gulf of Tonkin files, all files regarding chemtrails or any form of weather modification, Euromaidan files, 2017 Vegas shooting files, Tea Party files, 9/11 files, Hunter Biden files, Special Consul report on Joe Biden, COVID-19 & mRNA vaccine files, climate change files, ...

Go for the full meal deal, heck why not?  May not get another shot...

It would further destroy any good reputation the deep state has left.

[Syzygy]

Interesting. Was he even there is 63?

Yep.  Two years old then,  as of August of that year. 

Just a hypothetical "what if" like what if you had the chance to kill baby Hitler,  would you?  Easy to say in retrospect what one would do,  but if I actually had to do one or the other,  it would be Obama,  not Hitler.  Hitler never attacked America.  Obama did. 

[paulh]

 

[Libertas]

Sundance outlines his process again...it is good...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/03/13/the-process-president-trump-can-use-to-release-any-information-regardless-of-classification-level/

I hope he sent this to them.

But I would add a lot more to the requests to include the Seth Rich files, Epstein files, Watergate files, all files related to Extraterrestrials/UAP's/recovered alien tech, etc, Gulf of Tonkin files, all files regarding chemtrails or any form of weather modification, Euromaidan files, 2017 Vegas shooting files, Tea Party files, 9/11 files, Hunter Biden files, Special Consul report on Joe Biden, COVID-19 & mRNA vaccine files, climate change files, ...

Go for the full meal deal, heck why not?  May not get another shot...

It would further destroy any good reputation the deep state has left.

Who thinks they have any bit of a good reputation left?   

[Libertas]

Interesting. Was he even there is 63?

Yep.  Two years old then,  as of August of that year. 

Just a hypothetical "what if" like what if you had the chance to kill baby Hitler,  would you?  Easy to say in retrospect what one would do,  but if I actually had to do one or the other,  it would be Obama,  not Hitler.  Hitler never attacked America.  Obama did.

I will be Devil's advocate.

Being a history buff I've had these thoughts about a myriad of individuals...

Consider this...if not for the reign of terror of Obamunism...would any Trump Presidency been possible?  UP to that time the GOP since GHW Bush stabbed Reaganism in the back was firmly in the grip of the RINO/AINO/Cuck's...I don't see why that would not have continued...if you recall the Establishment Pubbies were every bit as motivated to slay the Tea Party movement as the Obamians were...GOPe members of Congress started doing the Demoscat thing and astro-turfed "town halls" loaded with pre-selected questioners throwing up softballs...Trump laid waste to the GOPe and survived the DeepState/Demoscat coups against him and now has both of them on the run...

[Syzygy]

Interesting. Was he even there is 63?

Yep.  Two years old then,  as of August of that year. 

Just a hypothetical "what if" like what if you had the chance to kill baby Hitler,  would you?  Easy to say in retrospect what one would do,  but if I actually had to do one or the other,  it would be Obama,  not Hitler.  Hitler never attacked America.  Obama did.

I will be Devil's advocate.

Being a history buff I've had these thoughts about a myriad of individuals...

Consider this...if not for the reign of terror of Obamunism...would any Trump Presidency been possible?  UP to that time the GOP since GHW Bush stabbed Reaganism in the back was firmly in the grip of the RINO/AINO/Cuck's...I don't see why that would not have continued...if you recall the Establishment Pubbies were every bit as motivated to slay the Tea Party movement as the Obamians were...GOPe members of Congress started doing the Demoscat thing and astro-turfed "town halls" loaded with pre-selected questioners throwing up softballs...Trump laid waste to the GOPe and survived the DeepState/Demoscat coups against him and now has both of them on the run...

Meh....Obama was a Manchurian Candidate groomed by the PTB to "fundamentally transform" America to be more to their liking.  In his absence,  they would have definitely groomed another.  And I'm sure that McCain would have called him his "good friend,"  as well.

[Libertas]

Interesting. Was he even there is 63?

Yep.  Two years old then,  as of August of that year. 

Just a hypothetical "what if" like what if you had the chance to kill baby Hitler,  would you?  Easy to say in retrospect what one would do,  but if I actually had to do one or the other,  it would be Obama,  not Hitler.  Hitler never attacked America.  Obama did.

I will be Devil's advocate.

Being a history buff I've had these thoughts about a myriad of individuals...

Consider this...if not for the reign of terror of Obamunism...would any Trump Presidency been possible?  UP to that time the GOP since GHW Bush stabbed Reaganism in the back was firmly in the grip of the RINO/AINO/Cuck's...I don't see why that would not have continued...if you recall the Establishment Pubbies were every bit as motivated to slay the Tea Party movement as the Obamians were...GOPe members of Congress started doing the Demoscat thing and astro-turfed "town halls" loaded with pre-selected questioners throwing up softballs...Trump laid waste to the GOPe and survived the DeepState/Demoscat coups against him and now has both of them on the run...

Meh....Obama was a Manchurian Candidate groomed by the PTB to "fundamentally transform" America to be more to their liking.  In his absence,  they would have definitely groomed another.  And I'm sure that McCain would have called him his "good friend,"  as well.

Yup!

[Libertas]

FYI - Today is supposed to be "the day"...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/03/17/president-trump-says-jfk-files-to-be-released-tomorrow-by-tulsi-gabbard/

APL has a link -

https://x.com/RepLuna/status/1901792052121141584

Goes to this - https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk

How Will The National Archives Make Records Available?
The National Archives is ready to receive and process any further declassification decisions made by President Trump or by other agencies of the United States Government.

As determinations are made and records are digitized, the National Archives will post the records online, at this webpage, on a rolling basis.

Nothing rolled out as yet...

[Libertas]

They are out there now...a real sh*t-ton of docs!

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release-2025

I asked GROK for key findings...

Based on the information available as of March 19, 2025, the key findings from the JFK assassination files released by the National Archives on March 18, 2025, appear to align with the following points derived from various sources:

The release, totaling over 80,000 pages, was mandated by President Donald Trump’s directive on March 17, 2025, under Executive Order 14176. This batch includes all records previously withheld for classification, supplemented by approximately 2,400 newly discovered FBI records. The National Archives has made these documents accessible online and in person at their College Park, Maryland facility, with digitization ongoing.

Initial analyses suggest that the files reinforce the Warren Commission’s conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in assassinating President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. No definitive evidence of a second shooter or a broader conspiracy involving agencies like the CIA or FBI has surfaced in the immediate reviews. The documents detail CIA surveillance of Oswald, particularly his activities in Mexico City prior to the assassination, but indicate no prior knowledge or direct involvement by the agency in the event itself.

One intriguing detail noted in early reports is a pre-assassination phone call that reportedly predicted Jack Ruby would kill Oswald, though this has not been elaborated upon as a game-changer. The files also shed light on agency operations, including CIA propaganda efforts and Oswald’s interactions with Soviet and Cuban entities, providing context rather than rewriting the established narrative.

Researchers, such as Jefferson Morley from the Mary Ferrell Foundation, have called the release an “encouraging start,” noting that about one-third of previously redacted documents (around 1,124 out of 3,500) are now fully available. However, two-thirds of the anticipated files, along with over 500 IRS records and the newly discovered FBI files, may not be fully included yet, suggesting that further insights could emerge as analysis continues. Despite the lack of immediate bombshells, the unredacted nature of the release eliminates much of the prior overclassification, fueling ongoing public and scholarly scrutiny.

These findings are preliminary, as experts emphasize that a comprehensive review of the extensive collection will take time. The absence of major revelations so far has not quelled skepticism, as reflected in public discourse, but the documents currently support the lone gunman theory over conspiracy alternatives.

I think it is obvious GROK hasn't digested the 80k files, not surprising, that's a lot of data to chew and cross-reference et al, it seems to be relying on other early opinions.  And it was a quick response...and a bit lazy IMO saying it seems to confirm the Warren Commission report of Oswald being the lone shooter when that report has more holes in it than FJB's brain!  IN fact I heard one longtime credible researcher last night say early review of the new files indicates support for the debunking of the "magic bullet" and thus proof at least one other shooter had to be in play.  But but GROK & others I've heard so far agrees it has a ton of stuff about CIA ops and info tangential to Oswald et al. 

Going to take time to chew all this.  And, this is just the first tranche of the full releases, more is coming...and the "newly discovered" FBI files need to come out yet too...

[Libertas]

Some interesting stuff being kicked around following these latest releases...

I think APL & Philip Shenon in the GP article are talking about the same withheld CIA info...

https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/1902150430723076331

There were several highlights, especially concerning alleged JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. The files reveal Oswald was reportedly considered a “poor shot” during his target practice in the USSR, was under surveillance by the CIA 59 days before the assassination, and was a spy.

The files also show that former CIA agent Gary Underhill claimed the agency was responsible for JFK’s assassination. He was later found dead in what was ruled a “suicide.” More shockingly, a man named Sergy Czornonoh reportedly knew that Oswald would be killed after assassinating Kennedy and that legendary civil rights activist Martin Luther King Jr. would also be assassinated. Czornonoh also allegedly knew in advance that Kennedy would be killed in Dallas.

But there remain unanswered questions, particularly surrounding the CIA and the man who succeeded Kennedy as president following the assassination: Lyndon Baines Johnson.

James Johnston, author of “Murder, Inc.: The CIA under John F. Kennedy,” explained to the USA Today revealed that a crucial document exists but has not been turned over to the National Archives. This paper concerns the first one-on-one conversation between President Lyndon Johnson and CIA Director John McCone, which occurred after Johnson assumed power following JFK’s assassination.

Philip Shenon, author of “A Cruel and Shocking Act: The Secret History of the Kennedy Assassination.” notes that McCone has been long suspected of hiding crucial details from the Warren Commission, the panel Johnson created to supposedly ‘investigate’ the assassination. Shenon wrote a 2015 story in Politico that McCone was kept on as CIA director by Johnson and previously pledged full cooperation with the commission.

McCone claimed during his testimony that the agency had zero evidence to conclude that Oswald was part of a conspiracy. Instead, Oswald was supposedly just a former Marine and Marxist who operated as a lone wolf.

The Warren Commission took McCone at his word. But as noted by Shenon, the CIA later acknowledged that McCone had hidden information from commission investigators.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/author-jfk-expert-reveals-critical-jfk-file-that/

Lots of interesting excerpts here...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/here-are-some-biggest-bombshells-uncovered-internet-sleuths/

...one can understand why the CIA wanted to sit on this, it seems under JFK the rogue DeepState nature of the outfit gained traction by this point...and seeing as how there was talk in the JFK Admin to de-couple research & analysis from Op's, that it was calling the shots in foreign policy and State was its puppet, acting like a "state within a state"...certainly isn't flattering!

And here at Ace is some interesting Hunt info...

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/414095.php#414095

Can expect more tidbits in coming days and weeks...

[Syzygy]

At this point,  it is obvious to me that no matter what is revealed to be true in the files,  the conspiracy theories will persist unabated.
I'm sticking with what I've said all along (a la the game Clue):
Lee Harvey Oswald
in the
Texas school book depository
with a
Mannlicher–Carcano rifle
Only three shots were heard fired that day (what was thought to be a forth turned out to be a cop's motorcycle backfiring).
All three rounds were accounted for and all came from Oswald's rifle.

The real mystery that remains is whether Oswald was a CIA asset,  a Russian asset,  or a Mafia asset,  or all three or a combination of two,  or acting on his own.
But the lone gunman theory as the Warren Commission concluded is still the best explanation about the assassination. 
Now,  let the conspiracy theories fly,  in even greater numbers and even greater claims. 

[paulh]

What was his rifle range medal? I read that while in Russia they said he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, and O'reilly said he was an expert sniper in the Corp.

[Syzygy]

What was his rifle range medal? I read that while in Russia they said he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, and O'reilly said he was an expert sniper in the Corp.

In the picture I saw of him in trop uniform,  he was wearing a sharpshooter badge.  I qualified sharpshooter in boot camp,  expert every time thereafter.  There was only one recruit that shot higher in a platoon of about 80 privates.  I shot 216 and he shot 219,  and one other recruit tied my score.  No one shot expert (220 and higher). (O'Reilly is way off base.)

Another thing that pizzzez me off said about his shooting abilities,  is people that say "no way he could cycle 3 rounds off in the amount of time he did."    They fail to take into consideration that he only had to cycle the rifle 2 times,  not three.  The first round he would already have locked and loaded,  ready to fire at trigger pull.