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The legacy car market is collapsing, and high tariffs cannot save it.
North America, Western Europe, and Japan are high-priced car markets, with average prices now over $50,000 for new cars in the United States.  Legacy car brands enjoy very large per-unit profits, by selling large SUV's and pickup trucks, and by locking out low-cost Chinese-built models.

But they are also in mature markets, with overall car sales far below those of ten years ago, and ever farther below industry estimates of where new car demand would be at this time.

Ironically, it is US, Japanese, and European carmakers that are struggling with overcapacity.  Factory utilization is at near-record levels for the past five years, and companies are laying off, reorganizing, and merging to buy time.

China, meanwhile, is playing a different game, and dominating markets in Southeast Asia, South and Central America, Africa, and East Europe, where our legacy brands cannot compete on price.
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Re: The legacy car market is collapsing, and high tariffs cannot save it.
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2025, 04:35:19 PM »
Inside China?  White frackin' devil narrating?

WTF, man?!

Propaganda by reds and red-lovers!

The Big Three here struggling because they drank the FJB-BHO-Soros "Jim Jones" kool-aid and shot precious capital down a sh*t-hole on EV bullsh*t and (now) half-assed "hybrids" (that cannot recharge batteries while running, lol!)...and nodding like morons to new edicts by eco-nazi cultists...

I see they didn't throw South Korea under their bus...

And if morons in thrid-world countries want that cheap crap, let 'em have it...they'll have to keep buying new cheap sh*t as it falls apart and/or cannot take to beating on rough roads in harsh climates and mountain passes...

 ::mooning::

Let's make and sell what people want on a fair level playing field...

Fart-sniffing leftists can buy the Chy-na crap...American's can buy crap that works...
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Re: The legacy car market is collapsing, and high tariffs cannot save it.
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2025, 05:03:54 PM »

The guy is some  portfolio manager who has been in China for many years. I recall the US govt fuel economy standards made small efficient cars impossible. Maybe I am wrong.

Here is the guy. He is mostly warning the US on impending issues. Below is an intro. He is former US military.

https://youtu.be/cMYDrtGgmtQ
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Re: The legacy car market is collapsing, and high tariffs cannot save it.
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2025, 08:03:46 AM »
Ugh, maybe it's the thin whine in his voice, maybe he didn't get laid much here...finding it difficult to listen to this guy...

Seems to me he is experiencing an Oswaldian dissolusionment with home...

Good luck with all that!
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