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Topics => 2nd Amendment/Firearms => Topic started by: robins111 on March 04, 2014, 01:17:23 PM

Title: RCMP (Canada's BATF) unilaterally decide to ban rifles
Post by: robins111 on March 04, 2014, 01:17:23 PM
Canada's RCMP decided, even though they were told 'to not proceed' decided to ban 2 rifles from the Canadian Public.  1 the Swiss Arms Classic Green, and the CZ family of rifles, called in Canada, the 858.  (CZ 58)

This is shortly after they were caught breaking and entering over 1,900 homes during a flood situation in High River Alberta.

Many of my American friends, have some misconceptions about our Mounties, they wrongly assume they are a version of Dudley Do-right, when in reality, they are an out-of-control, agency, attempting to regulate firearms ownership out of Canadians hands.

What people assume the Mounties are like.
RCMP Musical Ride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LjwhZ9Y5pU#)


How the Mounties treat innocent Gun Owners
Kelowna RCMP Police Brutality Investigation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLo18EcZxsY#ws)
Title: Re: RCMP (Canada's BATF) unilaterally decide to ban rifles
Post by: Glock32 on March 04, 2014, 01:42:20 PM
Many Americans do have misconceptions about the Canadian Mounties, but many Americans also have misconceptions about our own police. I think both of these police forces trade on their history and imagery of being upstanding, honest, and immune to bribery/corruption (especially compared to much of the world). That's all ancient history at this point.

The real struggle is that of the individual against the almighty state, and it manifests in different ways in different places. They're all the same though. They even openly speak of their desire to merge into one giant, global superstate. Notice how the executive agencies of government, in both Canada and the USA, have taken for themselves the role of legislatures? So much is done by fiat now. The operate behind the fig leaf of legitimacy that comes from some overly broad and misinterpreted legislation or constitutional premise -- such as the Commerce Clause in America's case.

Government is evil. Not this government or that government, but all government. The very idea of government is predicated on coercion and violence. We have always rationalized to ourselves that while it may be an evil, it is a necessary evil. As the train of abuses grows, though, that whole "necessary" part becomes increasingly up for debate.
Title: Re: RCMP (Canada's BATF) unilaterally decide to ban rifles
Post by: robins111 on March 04, 2014, 01:53:13 PM
Well said Glock..

I guess, the fact that our government is taking action on the gun owners side is room for optimism.  However, the reality is, thys shouldn't be even involved at any level, because they shouldn't have any business in the so-called gun control issue.
Title: Re: RCMP (Canada's BATF) unilaterally decide to ban rifles
Post by: Pandora on March 04, 2014, 01:59:54 PM
Well said Glock..

I guess, the fact that our government is taking action on the gun owners side is room for optimism.  However, the reality is, thys shouldn't be even involved at any level, because they shouldn't have any business in the so-called gun control issue.

Which is why none of this is going to end well.

What does Canada have in the way of what might resemble our Second Amendment?
Title: Re: RCMP (Canada's BATF) unilaterally decide to ban rifles
Post by: robins111 on March 04, 2014, 02:14:11 PM
No second amendment Pandora.. Point of fact, we don't even have property rights, after the socialist PE Trudeau created or Charter.. There is the English 'Bill of Rights' still accepted by courts but its a trap shoot based on if you get a liberal appointed judge. The Conservative government is trying to change this but its running into massiv3 resistance from the entrenched bean counters.
Title: Re: RCMP (Canada's BATF) unilaterally decide to ban rifles
Post by: Libertas on March 05, 2014, 06:40:43 AM
If there are no rights to property then there are no rights to person...our Founders learned this from Locke.  Everybody should read up on their Locke and Montesquieu and Jefferson and Madison.

Jeesh!  Those who fail to understand natural law and inalienable human rights shall enjoy no liberty!
Title: Re: RCMP (Canada's BATF) unilaterally decide to ban rifles
Post by: Glock32 on March 05, 2014, 07:56:14 PM
Sounds like the head of your RCMP needs to go. Sun News is calling for it:  http://blogs.canoe.ca/lilleyspad/politics/video-mark-steyn-on-byline/ (http://blogs.canoe.ca/lilleyspad/politics/video-mark-steyn-on-byline/)
Title: Re: RCMP (Canada's BATF) unilaterally decide to ban rifles
Post by: robins111 on March 06, 2014, 07:55:27 AM
I hear you Glock, and hopefully this is the straw that broke the camels back, for the first time in almost 20 years, there's serious consideration of tossing the entire gun control, social engineering scheme, invented by Canadian Liberals into the trash.  Paulson may have authored his own demise.    ::bustamove::