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Topics => Science, Technology, & Medicine => Topic started by: Pandora on September 12, 2015, 05:21:07 AM

Title: Fed researchers urge older adults to aim for much lower blood pressure
Post by: Pandora on September 12, 2015, 05:21:07 AM
The new research advises people with high blood pressure to keep their “systolic” pressure — the top number in the reading that health-care providers routinely tell patients — at 120 or below. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/federal-researchers-urge-older-adults-to-aim-for-much-lower-blood-pressure/2015/09/11/4f63e72c-5895-11e5-8bb1-b488d231bba2_story.html)

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Clinical guidelines have commonly called for systolic blood pressure of 140 for healthy adults and 130 for adults with kidney disease or diabetes.

Physicians have complained that there was no clear evidence for any specific standard on systolic blood pressure, compelling them to decide on their own how aggressive to be in treating the condition. Now there is a number, and it is significantly lower than the current targets.

... The research, primarily sponsored by the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, showed that using medication to keep systolic blood pressure at 120 or below reduced the rate of heart attacks, strokes and heart failure by a third and the risk of death by almost 25 percent, compared with keeping it at 140.

... About 70 million U.S. adults — nearly 1 in 3 — have high blood pressure, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Right.  And we can expect that statistic to rocket in the near future -- "A high blood pressure epidemic.

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... That doesn’t mean that doctors will suddenly begin prescribing blood pressure medication to everyone older than 50 with systolic pressure above 120, according to experts. *

... Even if a lower blood pressure is recommended for a patient, physicians will make individual decisions for each person that include consideration of age and health and the possible impact of lifestyle changes and medications, experts said.  **

*  The hell they won't. 

**  Too many are still pushing "cut the salt" on normal, healthy adults.
Title: Re: Fed researchers urge older adults to aim for much lower blood pressure
Post by: AlanS on September 12, 2015, 09:44:07 AM
The new research advises people with high blood pressure to keep their “systolic” pressure — the top number in the reading that health-care providers routinely tell patients — at 120 or below. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/federal-researchers-urge-older-adults-to-aim-for-much-lower-blood-pressure/2015/09/11/4f63e72c-5895-11e5-8bb1-b488d231bba2_story.html)

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Clinical guidelines have commonly called for systolic blood pressure of 140 for healthy adults and 130 for adults with kidney disease or diabetes.

Physicians have complained that there was no clear evidence for any specific standard on systolic blood pressure, compelling them to decide on their own how aggressive to be in treating the condition. Now there is a number, and it is significantly lower than the current targets.

... The research, primarily sponsored by the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, showed that using medication to keep systolic blood pressure at 120 or below reduced the rate of heart attacks, strokes and heart failure by a third and the risk of death by almost 25 percent, compared with keeping it at 140.

... About 70 million U.S. adults — nearly 1 in 3 — have high blood pressure, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Right.  And we can expect that statistic to rocket in the near future -- "A high blood pressure epidemic.

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... That doesn’t mean that doctors will suddenly begin prescribing blood pressure medication to everyone older than 50 with systolic pressure above 120, according to experts. *

... Even if a lower blood pressure is recommended for a patient, physicians will make individual decisions for each person that include consideration of age and health and the possible impact of lifestyle changes and medications, experts said.  **

*  The hell they won't. 

**  Too many are still pushing "cut the salt" on normal, healthy adults.

The prog way. There's no evidence, but we'll do it anyway.
Title: Re: Fed researchers urge older adults to aim for much lower blood pressure
Post by: Pandora on September 12, 2015, 01:46:52 PM
Well, now, due to this study OF ADULTS WITH KIDNEY DISEASE OR DIABETES, there is evidence.  Trouble is, I have found with doctors, only some of the information trickles down to them, resulting in a general "prescription" to apply broadly.

I betcha this time next year, people who today have "normal" BP are going to find themselves badgered by their MDs over this, too, like with cholesterol.
Title: Re: Fed researchers urge older adults to aim for much lower blood pressure
Post by: Glock32 on September 12, 2015, 06:57:15 PM
We'll see if the blood pressure meds they push are the generic ones that have been around for decades, or new fangled pills that are not surprisingly still on patent.  You know pharma is getting something out of this.
Title: Re: Fed researchers urge older adults to aim for much lower blood pressure
Post by: Libertas on September 13, 2015, 11:08:39 AM
Just like cholesterol, I flat out tell my doc " no meds".  Don't like it? Tough sh*t!
Title: Re: Fed researchers urge older adults to aim for much lower blood pressure
Post by: AlanS on September 14, 2015, 08:36:25 AM
Just like cholesterol, I flat out tell my doc " no meds".  Don't like it? Tough sh*t!

Mine still hasn't reached quadruple digits, so I'm good.
Title: Re: Fed researchers urge older adults to aim for much lower blood pressure
Post by: Libertas on September 14, 2015, 09:47:48 AM
Just like cholesterol, I flat out tell my doc " no meds".  Don't like it? Tough sh*t!

Mine still hasn't reached quadruple digits, so I'm good.

I'm borderline.

OK, cue the one-liners.  :)
Title: Re: Fed researchers urge older adults to aim for much lower blood pressure
Post by: Pandora on September 14, 2015, 09:55:49 AM
Bwaha.