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Topics => Science, Technology, & Medicine => Topic started by: Libertas on November 03, 2015, 11:35:41 AM

Title: Say hello to the Coywolf
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2015, 11:35:41 AM
(http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/full-width/images/print-edition/20151031_STP001_0.jpg)

http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21677188-it-rare-new-animal-species-emerge-front-scientists-eyes (http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21677188-it-rare-new-animal-species-emerge-front-scientists-eyes)

Pretty interesting.

Nature happens.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Coywolf
Post by: Pandora on November 03, 2015, 11:46:52 AM
For Pete's sake, it isn't a "new species", it's a damn hybrid is all.  We have them here in NC becaaaaaause the environuts "re-introduced" coyote pairs into five counties in northeastern NC some twenty-or-so years ago, in "protected areas", and they not only did not do well in terms of thriving and reproduction (which is the reason I figure they disappeared from here/there in the first place), they migrated into unprotected areas and mated with what was available, hence the hybrid mix.

And, as the article states, they're bigger than your run-of-the-mill coyote.  Smaller dogs, small animals and chickens tend to go missing around here if not properly tended.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Coywolf
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2015, 12:03:47 PM
You are correct, not new...hybrid...stuff happens and it happens because creatures adapt, always have, always will.

Not sure we have any in this nape of the woods...purebred Coyotes and Wolves...doesn't mean there aren't any, just means maybe the need hasn't arisen yet.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Coywolf
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 03, 2015, 03:40:39 PM
You are correct, not new...hybrid...stuff happens and it happens because creatures adapt, always have, always will.

Not sure we have any in this nape of the woods...purebred Coyotes and Wolves...doesn't mean there aren't any, just means maybe the need hasn't arisen yet.

That coyote that was getting my chickens was usually big. He may have been a crossbreed too-- don't forget the domestic dog... which is probably where my chicken stealing critter came from on side side or another.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Coywolf
Post by: Glock32 on November 03, 2015, 04:48:32 PM
Yes, like Pan says these hybrids are nothing new.  The animals reintroduced in eastern NC are called red wolves, and are said to be native animals.  But increasingly evidence has suggested that there never was a species called red wolf, and the animals in question were hybrids that arose from crossings between wolves, coyotes, and feral dogs.
Title: Re: Say hello to the Coywolf
Post by: Libertas on November 04, 2015, 07:18:04 AM
We see the same thing in the urban zoos...crossbreeding ferals with idiots and such...

 ::facepalm::