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Topics => World/Foreign Affairs => Topic started by: Libertas on January 13, 2016, 07:43:11 AM
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35299930 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35299930)
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US Secretary of State John Kerry has contacted Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif over the incident.
Giving his assessment of the talks, Gen Fadavi said "Mr Zarif had a firm stance, saying that they were in our territorial waters and should not have been, and saying that they [the US] should apologise".
"This has been done and it will not take long, and the naval force, according to its hierarchy, will act immediately upon the orders it receives," he added.
Unh hunh. Yesterday, it was our people "will be returned promptly".
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(CNN)The 10 American sailors captured by Iran were freed Wednesday, but the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and U.S. officials appear to be at odds over whether the U.S. apologized for the incident before their release.
Iranian authorities let the sailors go after determining that their vessels' entry into Iranian waters was unintentional and "after they extended an apology," according to a statement from Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps, quoted in the country's semi-official FARS News Agency. The statement went on to say, "The Americans have undertaken not to repeat such mistakes."
But the State Department quickly rebutted that report Wednesday morning.
"There is no truth in reporting that Secretary Kerry apologized to the Iranians," Kerry spokesman John Kirby told reporters Wednesday, later tweeting that the claim had "zero" validity. "As the Secretary said in his statement this morning, he expressed gratitude to Iranian authorities for their cooperation in swiftly resolving this matter, and noted that the peaceful and efficient resolution of this issue is a testament to the critical role diplomacy plays in keeping our country safe, secure, and strong."
Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif, who has maintained open lines with Kerry and U.S. officials, made no mention of an apology in a tweet he sent after the sailors were released.
"Happy to see dialog and respect, not threats and impetuousness, swiftly resolved the #sailors episode. Let's learn from this latest example," Zarif wrote.
... The wait for the sailors' release Wednesday morning dragged on for hours, with Iranian officials interrogating the sailors about their motives and demanding a U.S. apology.
But an Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps spokesman told state-run media the boats strayed into Iranian waters by accident.
"The evidence suggests that they unintentionally entered the Iranian waters because of the failure of their navigational system," IRGC spokesman Ramazan Sharif said.
On Wednesday afternoon, the sailors traveled on their two boats to a rendezvous point in the Persian Gulf, a U.S. official said. They were escorted by Iranian boats, which turned back when they reached the rendezvous point in international waters.
The sailors then boarded the guided missile cruiser USS Anzio, where they underwent medical checks Wednesday.
"There are no indications that the Sailors were harmed during their brief detention," the U.S. Navy said in a statement.
The Navy said it would investigate how the sailors ended up in Iranian territory.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/13/politics/iran-us-sailors/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/13/politics/iran-us-sailors/index.html)
This whole thing stinks.
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No indication...
http://www.weaselzippers.us/250657-iran-violates-geneva-convention-with-pics-video-humiliating-us-sailors-forcing-female-to-wear-headscarf/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/250657-iran-violates-geneva-convention-with-pics-video-humiliating-us-sailors-forcing-female-to-wear-headscarf/)
Like Obama, the REMF's ignore the Geneva Convention as much as they do the Constitution...
Me? I would have mooned that effing camera operator and tore that headscarf off my shipmate and wiped my nads with it and toss it in their face!
And then I would be court martialed by my own ...
And it looks like the Persians pilfered all our stuff!
http://www.weaselzippers.us/250637-john-kerry-thanks-iran-for-releasing-captured-sailors-pic-of-sailors-with-hands-on-heads-under-arrest/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/250637-john-kerry-thanks-iran-for-releasing-captured-sailors-pic-of-sailors-with-hands-on-heads-under-arrest/)
Why am I getting the feeling the Obama Regime made sure navigation went SNAFU right at the most opportune time for the Persians to seize them? HTF does satellite-driven GPS go wrong? Somebody mucked with the downlink signal? Our military-grade GPS systems are a lot more precise than civilian devices...and now the Persians have the information needed to tap into our systems.
Mistake?
::cussing:: Obama! ::cussing:: REMF's!
http://www.weaselzippers.us/250610-wait-what-rep-gohmert-kerry-ash-carter-called-iran-to-help-when-u-s-sailors-boats-had-trouble/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/250610-wait-what-rep-gohmert-kerry-ash-carter-called-iran-to-help-when-u-s-sailors-boats-had-trouble/)
No effing mistake...intentional!
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The whole thing makes my blood boil.
The PR opportunities for the iranians at our expense humiliates us. The video enrages me. I make make some mad (sue me) but the sailors shouldn't have eaten the iranians slop. They should have ignored it.
I'm disgusted with the whole thing.
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sigh,,,,,,,this is going to be a long year.......
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I agree 'Soup....
There is nothing to be gained by being nice to these clowns...
It is beyond embarrassing...
But they were obeying their masters...Obama & the REMF's...
Another whole story there, but...blame aplenty to go around...but it starts at the top!
This is the same clowns that put stealth drone tech into Persian hands!
Some are speculating this was a SpecOps operation gone wrong...but that still does not explain being told to surrender to the Iranians...but I am not buying that angle...these are not SpecOps people.
WeaponsMan does a good breakdown - http://weaponsman.com/?p=28693#more-28693 (http://weaponsman.com/?p=28693#more-28693)
I pretty much agree with everything he said.
It's bad enough to follow crap leaders...everything rolls downhill though...and the top of this hill can't be any crappier.
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/original_zpsc1u9ytic.jpg)
ETA - Expecting this POS to care about "real" America is a foolish notion...he cannot even get the nation's age correct (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3398652/The-United-States-200-err-50-years-Obama-struggles-work-America-s-age-wondering-Mr-President-240-year.html), because he is as un-American as it gets...all he does is constantly prove it...while the Progs cheer on and the E-GOP does nothing...
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READ! (http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/01/submission-american-style/)
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I can't! My work filter is blocking it! ::gaah::
I saw this though - http://www.weaselzippers.us/250940-navigational-error-not-lack-of-fuel-led-u-s-sailors-into-iranian-waters/ (http://www.weaselzippers.us/250940-navigational-error-not-lack-of-fuel-led-u-s-sailors-into-iranian-waters/)
Pure 100% undiluted bullshat!!!
These systems do not lie, unless they are altered or ignored...period!!!
Ash Carter is LYING!!!