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Title: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: patentlymn on December 22, 2019, 04:02:39 PM


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/12/our-sincerest-compliments-come-from-our-enemies.php (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/12/our-sincerest-compliments-come-from-our-enemies.php)
POSTED ON DECEMBER 21, 2019 BY JOHN HINDERAKER IN CLIMATE, LEFTISM
OUR SINCEREST COMPLIMENTS COME FROM OUR ENEMIES
Minnesota’s Democratic governor has initiated a rule-making proceeding intended to import California’s vehicle emission standards to Minnesota. Basically, a large percentage of vehicles sold in the state would have to be electric. In order to meet that mandate, electric cars would be subsidized by higher prices for gasoline-powered vehicles, the ones a large majority of people want to buy.
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Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: ToddF on December 22, 2019, 05:44:42 PM
I went for a nice walk, today, as the temperature hit the mid 50's.  Have I stated how much I miss Minnesota?

Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: John Florida on December 23, 2019, 07:18:34 PM
  Why not tax rainwater too to pay for electric cars?
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: Alphabet Soup on December 23, 2019, 08:32:39 PM
Found out today that our leftist rulers plan to institute a tax/mile scheme. If they think I'm gonna put a tracker on my Mustang they got another thing coming!
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 23, 2019, 09:09:22 PM
  Why not tax rainwater too to pay for electric cars?

They're actually trying to tax rainwater in NJ: taxing businesses & (maybe) eventually property owners for the "excessive" water that runs off your macadam/driveway & into the sewers (thus damaging our beloved Mother Earth) -- based upon square footage.

The agency that collects/enforces is a nebulous entity with a politically appointed commissioner.

Someone has suggested that a bullet-pointed memo may serve as a counter to the measure.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: Libertas on December 24, 2019, 02:34:33 PM
The current mumbling socialist ass-puppet is no different than the preceding one...er ones...but if this current imbecile wants to spill his guts in a vain pursuit I say hack away at yourself!
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: IronDioPriest on December 25, 2019, 11:58:25 AM
What would prevent a person from driving across the border to Wisconsin, Iowa, North or South Dakota, and purchasing a vehicle there?
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: John Florida on December 25, 2019, 04:01:16 PM
What would prevent a person from driving across the border to Wisconsin, Iowa, North or South Dakota, and purchasing a vehicle there?


   Nothing but you have to register the car there first and bring it in as a used car.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: ToddF on December 25, 2019, 05:53:52 PM
What would prevent a person from driving across the border to Wisconsin, Iowa, North or South Dakota, and purchasing a vehicle there?

You'd have to register it in Minnesota and that's where they'd get you with a tax.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: John Florida on December 25, 2019, 10:13:23 PM
What would prevent a person from driving across the border to Wisconsin, Iowa, North or South Dakota, and purchasing a vehicle there?

You'd have to register it in Minnesota and that's where they'd get you with a tax.


 Nope because if it comes in as a used car the only thing that it would cost is a second registration and a title fee that's it all the sales taxes were paid in the other state to a po box or a friends home address . the end.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: ToddF on December 26, 2019, 03:03:32 AM
Minnesota has already had that problem with people registering in Wisconsin.  They will get you.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: John Florida on December 26, 2019, 01:32:17 PM
Minnesota has already had that problem with people registering in Wisconsin.  They will get you.

 For what? The car purchased legally taxes paid tags legal what can they charge you with. We are free to register anywhere we have a mailing address that you can use. They can get mad but that's it.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: benb61 on December 26, 2019, 03:58:30 PM
Minnesota has already had that problem with people registering in Wisconsin.  They will get you.

 For what? The car purchased legally taxes paid tags legal what can they charge you with. We are free to register anywhere we have a mailing address that you can use. They can get mad but that's it.

California makes you pay the difference in tax upon registering in Ca if the car was purchased less than 1 year prior.  New or used is irrelevant


Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: John Florida on December 26, 2019, 04:46:24 PM
Minnesota has already had that problem with people registering in Wisconsin.  They will get you.

 For what? The car purchased legally taxes paid tags legal what can they charge you with. We are free to register anywhere we have a mailing address that you can use. They can get mad but that's it.

California makes you pay the difference in tax upon registering in Ca if the car was purchased less than 1 year prior.  New or used is irrelevant

  Keep it a year on the plates but the point was to bring it in without crazy smog that they insist on not beating the taxes.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: ToddF on December 26, 2019, 05:45:53 PM
Minnesota has already had that problem with people registering in Wisconsin.  They will get you.

 For what? The car purchased legally taxes paid tags legal what can they charge you with. We are free to register anywhere we have a mailing address that you can use. They can get mad but that's it.

You homestead status can be matched.  Your income tax status can be matched to your car.  Whether they use one, both, or another method, Minnesota does make sure you're paying Minnesota taxes on your Minnesota car.  There WAS a problem with Minnesota residents buying Wisconsin tags through some kind of loophole.  That was closed.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: John Florida on December 26, 2019, 06:47:05 PM
  Once again this was about avoiding smog controls on the cars.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: ToddF on December 27, 2019, 05:35:04 AM
And about taxing cars that don't make the grade.  And Minnesotan can buy a car in South Dakota.  They would be liable for sales tax as soon as it was registered in Minnesota.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on December 27, 2019, 08:19:59 AM
Does it work that way everywhere? My kids both bought cars in Pennsylvania & were not charged sales tax @ the point of sale.
When they registered their cars in NJ, they paid the registration fee as well as NJ tax to Motor Vehicles.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: Libertas on December 27, 2019, 11:48:38 AM
Things get messy with states that have reciprocity on such matters like MN & WI do...what loop holes left to exploit will be closed...they are forcing people to behave outside the law...another area in which the UniParty statists hate competition, but competition they will get...and they'll learn they are at a disadvantage.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: John Florida on January 03, 2020, 04:56:58 PM
Does it work that way everywhere? My kids both bought cars in Pennsylvania & were not charged sales tax @ the point of sale.
When they registered their cars in NJ, they paid the registration fee as well as NJ tax to Motor Vehicles.

 That's how it works .You get temp plates and pay taxes in home state when you buy from a dealer.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: patentlymn on August 22, 2020, 08:06:28 PM

https://www.americanexperiment.org/2020/08/xcels-electric-vehicle-scheme-will-give-wealthy-liberals-more-of-your-money/ (https://www.americanexperiment.org/2020/08/xcels-electric-vehicle-scheme-will-give-wealthy-liberals-more-of-your-money/)
Xcel’s Electric Vehicle Scheme Will Give Wealthy Liberals More of Your Money
 Written by Isaac Orr
 in Energy
 on August 21, 2020


Last weekend, the Minneapolis Star Tribune wrote an article about Xcel Energy’s plans to increase the number of electric vehicles (EVs) on the road by giving rebates of up to $2,500 to people who purchase EVs. These rebates, which would most likely be paid to wealthy urban liberals, would be paid for using your money.
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Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: John Florida on August 22, 2020, 08:14:11 PM
 You folks need to get the hell out of there.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2020, 08:43:08 AM
I'm trying...continued anarchy and destruction wrought by Marxists idiots oblivious to how bad their asses are about to be kicked is making a feisty egress more likely...
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: John Florida on August 31, 2020, 11:09:40 AM
  Go look at fuel costs in CA. that will light a fire under your ass.
Title: Re: MN Gov initiates rule making to import CA vehicle emission rules to MN
Post by: Libertas on August 06, 2021, 09:14:18 AM
Should be called FTO/PTE-V's...

Fleece The Owners/Pollute The Earth-Vehicles...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/evs-cost-16-23-times-more-service-internal-combustion-vehicles-new-study-shows (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/evs-cost-16-23-times-more-service-internal-combustion-vehicles-new-study-shows)

Pat yourselves on the back for being back-birth virtue-signaling muppets!!!

 ::laughonfloor::