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Topics => Military News/Veterans => Topic started by: Libertas on June 03, 2024, 10:17:03 AM

Title: Anybody think this is the only flag officer guilty of corruption?
Post by: Libertas on June 03, 2024, 10:17:03 AM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/06/01/retired-four-star-admiral-arrested-for-bribery/

I looked up his record, started as a bubblehead on attack subs and boomers, pretty solid career lot of recognition...

If a fairly straight arrow looking chap can fall prey to the lure of post-service riches...it is almost certain others have/are doing to same now...especially in latter day lax contracting practices, little oversight/consequences and rubber-stamped funding bills...
Title: Re: Anybody think this is the only flag officer guilty of corruption?
Post by: patentlymn on June 03, 2024, 12:19:42 PM

I recall a news story about flag rank officers. In order to reach flag rank naval officers had to command a ship of a certain size.
So many of such ships were built recently even though they were not needed.

Also, in WWII four stars had x number of troops under them. Now it is 63 times x.
Title: Re: Anybody think this is the only flag officer guilty of corruption?
Post by: Libertas on June 03, 2024, 12:53:29 PM
All flag officers don't get there without major commands...it's not size of ships or planes or tanks...it's operational commands...and WWII by its nature had a sh*tload of flag officers...4 Admirals, 2 USA Generals and 1 USAF General made it to 5 stars...  War on a global scale ramps everything up, especially conventional like that...

Conventional war now days will be short-lived...it's just what follows may or may not be so swell...
Title: Re: Anybody think this is the only flag officer guilty of corruption?
Post by: patentlymn on June 06, 2024, 04:30:46 PM
All flag officers don't get there without major commands...it's not size of ships or planes or tanks...it's operational commands...and WWII by its nature had a sh*tload of flag officers...4 Admirals, 2 USA Generals and 1 USAF General made it to 5 stars...  War on a global scale ramps everything up, especially conventional like that...

Conventional war now days will be short-lived...it's just what follows may or may not be so swell...

???
I heard that CURRENT US 4 stars are 63x more bloated than in WWII. If current Us 4 stars had the same number of troops under them as in WWII  there would be 63 times fewer 4 stars.
Title: Re: Anybody think this is the only flag officer guilty of corruption?
Post by: Libertas on June 07, 2024, 08:15:59 AM
All flag officers don't get there without major commands...it's not size of ships or planes or tanks...it's operational commands...and WWII by its nature had a sh*tload of flag officers...4 Admirals, 2 USA Generals and 1 USAF General made it to 5 stars...  War on a global scale ramps everything up, especially conventional like that...

Conventional war now days will be short-lived...it's just what follows may or may not be so swell...

???
I heard that CURRENT US 4 stars are 63x more bloated than in WWII. If current Us 4 stars had the same number of troops under them as in WWII  there would be 63 times fewer 4 stars.

It's more the denominator than the numerator...less GFO's overall, but the drop in personnel from WWII (well, duh, WWII!) make percentage of total a bit higher, but it doesn't look as bad as you're saying...and you have to account for coalition operations (NATO et al), joint operation commands etc...

Check this out - https://sgp.fas.org/crs/natsec/R44389.pdf

Near the end they make recommendations/considerations that to me the technological and restructuring lesser commands to Colonel's/Captains & Lt. Colonel's/Commanders.
Title: Re: Anybody think this is the only flag officer guilty of corruption?
Post by: patentlymn on June 21, 2024, 06:58:26 PM
Had Judge Nap on with guest ret Col  Wilkerson.
He said that the goal of a promotable Col is to get a defense job on retirement.
Of 32 3 and 4 stars last year 26 went to work for defense contractors at hundreds of thousands per year. 4 star may be millions per year.

time not certain
https://youtu.be/i3NM_H-lwZc?t=715
Title: Re: Anybody think this is the only flag officer guilty of corruption?
Post by: Libertas on June 24, 2024, 10:01:12 AM
All flag officers don't get there without major commands...it's not size of ships or planes or tanks...it's operational commands...and WWII by its nature had a sh*tload of flag officers...4 Admirals, 2 USA Generals and 1 USAF General made it to 5 stars...  War on a global scale ramps everything up, especially conventional like that...

Conventional war now days will be short-lived...it's just what follows may or may not be so swell...

???
I heard that CURRENT US 4 stars are 63x more bloated than in WWII. If current Us 4 stars had the same number of troops under them as in WWII  there would be 63 times fewer 4 stars.

There was a larger denominator in a world war...today the larger numerator is driven by more commands...ya dig?  They are never going to be comparable...for most nations of military size...
Title: Re: Anybody think this is the only flag officer guilty of corruption?
Post by: Libertas on June 24, 2024, 10:03:35 AM
Had Judge Nap on with guest ret Col  Wilkerson.
He said that the goal of a promotable Col is to get a defense job on retirement.
Of 32 3 and 4 stars last year 26 went to work for defense contractors at hundreds of thousands per year. 4 star may be millions per year.

time not certain
https://youtu.be/i3NM_H-lwZc?t=715

And it is just a coincidence it occurs during a time of hyper-politicization of the military begun under The Kenyan...lay mostly dormant during the first Trump term and surges under puppet FJB...