It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => The "Educators" => Topic started by: patentlymn on August 15, 2024, 06:56:16 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/education/comments/1esuokp/in_an_interview_with_elon_musk_trump_said_one_of/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/education/comments/1esuokp/in_an_interview_with_elon_musk_trump_said_one_of/)
In an interview with Elon Musk, Trump said one of his first plans is to shut down the department of education
I'm just curious how educators think this plan to dismantle the DoEd and give all rights and responsibilities to the states would look like in their neck if the woods? In his interview he states that he believes at least 15 states would really struggle. How far behind would your students be if suddenly the state took over funding and curriculum? What would this look like in rural areas? Are there enough charter schools for all our students, should the plan to offer vouchers for charter schools take effect? (adapted from u/InyerPockette )
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I'm a public school teacher and local district union president. Eliminating the Dept of Ed, combined with plans to weaken labor organizing and worker protections while strengthening vouchers and private schools plus restricting what teachers can talk about in the classroom will be the death knell of public schools as we know them. States will get less or no money from the federal gov, and in turn funding for public schools will fall. Teachers will be laid off or vacancies not filled. Those that remain will face strict rules about their content and what they can say/teach.
Class sizes will increase, and teachers will be given pre packaged approved curriculum to administer, making it possible to hire less qualified teachers and reduce salaries across the board. The quality of education in public schools will fall, justifying the claims on the right that public schools suck and charters/private schools are the best option. Eventually, wealthy parents will pull their kids out of public schools ensuring that the elite still have access to quality education (or indoctrination depending on the parents' ideologies), while the masses (who will also be disproportionately people of color) will be stuck at public schools that do nothing more than prepare them to be compliant workers in low wage jobs. This is just K-12, I'm sure the higher ed outcomes will be equally dire.
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meanwhile kids are doing so well as is /s
https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/1es0oap/what_caused_the_illiteracy_crisis_in_the_us/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/1es0oap/what_caused_the_illiteracy_crisis_in_the_us/)
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Should be vouchers and choice, pro-choice, der!
Don't feel sorry for bad teachers, corrupt Marxist school boards & rotten schools...this is their fault for failing with their woke PC BS!
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A liberal school teacher in Madison WI was complaining about how disruptive and even violent students made teaching so hard.
I asked why they were not expelled or at least suspended for days. She looked at me like I was a monster.
They like to complain.
The posters go from legitimate complaints about kids, parents, and admins to posting about what the horrible GOP will do and how they will ruin education and force their right wing religious views on kids.
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So, in a nutshell they make it easy to despise them and not GAFF about them at all.
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Yes When teachers complain about things making their job harder they seldom say what they would do to change that, except spend more money.
I knew a Russian exchange student who went to Eagan HS. It was around 1994-95. Like most Russians she had been taught about how blacks were mistreated in the US. Then she came here and reported how blacks acted in school and how they put their kids in free school day care.
In recent history there was some woke St. Paul superintendent who was eventually thrown out after too many teachers were put in the hospital by students.
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Glenn Beck wrote a good book-"Conform"- about the sad education system here in the USA
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/universities-dysfunctional-incubators-socialism (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/universities-dysfunctional-incubators-socialism)
Zero federal taxpayer dollars for any university too, time to cut all teats! All these outfits do is poison minds and leave us falling behind year after year in hard sciences, math, engineering...any pursuit leading to actual productive citizens.