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Topics => Weather, Climate, & Natural Disasters => Topic started by: Libertas on August 02, 2011, 07:39:18 AM

Title: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Libertas on August 02, 2011, 07:39:18 AM
Hopefully for y'all in Florida it remains tame, but the likely tracks all have Florida in play.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/AL0511W5.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/AL0511W5.gif)

http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/53183/tropcal-system-threatens-antil.asp (http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/53183/tropcal-system-threatens-antil.asp)
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Dan on August 02, 2011, 09:52:57 AM
My Emily is just as fierce and unpredictable. I don't think I should even mention it if it becomes a full-blown 'cane. She doesn't need any more incentive to lay waste to all in her path!
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Dagwood on August 02, 2011, 11:11:18 AM
Certainly no disrespect, disregard, or ill-will for the folks along ANY coastline, but we here in Texas (and most certainly in Dallas) could use a good, hard soaking rain. Even if models show Emily tracking toward south FL, it bears watching on a daily basis to see of the track changes...
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Libertas on August 02, 2011, 11:42:30 AM
You want rain?  Come up to Minnie, every storm is a monsoon!

But I understand Texas to Arizona is pretty parched.

Obviously, it all must be Bush's fault, him and is damned weather machine!

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Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: John Florida on August 02, 2011, 01:06:36 PM
It's got our attention. I'm at the not really worried stage but that's subject to change. I'm as usual pretty well ready and what's left will take about 4/5 hours to put to bed.At this point is just a question of if the shutters are going up or not and how much fuel I want in the house for the generator.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 02, 2011, 02:55:39 PM
Certainly no disrespect, disregard, or ill-will for the folks along ANY coastline, but we here in Texas (and most certainly in Dallas) could use a good, hard soaking rain. Even if models show Emily tracking toward south FL, it bears watching on a daily basis to see of the track changes...

Man, please take some of ours. I don't remember a July as wet as the one we just went through. There is so much water standing, lakes all over central Minnesota have been placed under a blanket "no wake zone" for boat travel. Homes along shorelines are under water, and lakefront property is being eroded into the lakes. I've never seen anything like it. Usually floodwaters crest, peak, and then recede. These lakes are not going down. They keep getting bombarded with storms.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 02, 2011, 02:59:13 PM

Hey hey, Minnesota,

Link (http://www.lcra.org/water/drought/index.html)
The nine months from October 2010 through June 2011 have been the driest for that nine-month period in Texas since 1895,


(http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/pics/tx_dm.png)

(http://www.connectamarillo.com/uploadedImages/kvii/News/Stories/drought.jpg)
Drought conditions in Texas are back, and they weren't gone long.

Drought by area impacted is worst ever – though majority of US still drought free (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/01/drought-by-area-impacted-is-worst-ever-though-majority-of-us-still-drought-free/#more-44470)

Currently, 18 percent of the country is classified as under either extreme or exceptional drought, Fuchs said. Much of it is in the south, particularly Texas, where the entire state is experiencing drought — three-fourths considered exceptional.

Other states that are at least 85 percent abnormally dry or in drought according to the report include:

   
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 02, 2011, 03:13:23 PM
Buy your beef and freeze it, whatever you pay for it today is less than it will be when the culling is done.

Link (http://www.agweb.com/article/drought_monitor_shows_severe_situation_in_the_south/)

Deeper culling of cowherds is not just a possibility but reality in some states.

The latest drought monitor doesn't offer much in the way of good news for the southern plains. And the latest pasture condition report form USDA shows that in Texas for instance, 50% of pastures are in very poor condition, Georgia at 44% and New Mexico at 42% in very poor condition.

“As we go another week without any measurable rains and above normal temperatures, forage conditions continue to deteriorate under normal grazing pressure,” said Lee Dudley, Texas AgriLife Extension agent for Panola County. “Many producers have already culled once and are now looking to cull deeper into their herds as they are running out of standing grass.”

(http://www.agweb.com/assets/1/9/drought.gif)

IDP, pipe all you can,  it's needed everywhere.

Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Dan on August 02, 2011, 08:01:00 PM
We have aqueducts and fuel lines running cross country underground...why can't we have tunnels carrying overflow to dry regions?
That would be  a legitimate task of the fed govt, I think.

Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 02, 2011, 08:28:16 PM

Or an enterprising entrepreneur.  It looks like less than 600 miles from Minnesota to that Crimson on the map.  And also, that water could run both ways.

Blood Red (http://news.yahoo.com/end-times-texas-lake-turns-blood-red-215004338.html)

A drought has left the OC Fisher Reservoir in San Angelo State Park in West Texas almost entirely dry. The water that is left is stagnant, full of dead fish — and a deep, opaque red.


Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: John Florida on August 02, 2011, 08:35:01 PM

Or an enterprising entrepreneur.  It looks like less than 600 miles from Minnesota to that Crimson on the map.  And also, that water could run both ways.

Blood Red (http://news.yahoo.com/end-times-texas-lake-turns-blood-red-215004338.html)

A drought has left the OC Fisher Reservoir in San Angelo State Park in West Texas almost entirely dry. The water that is left is stagnant, full of dead fish — and a deep, opaque red.




EWWW
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 07:39:07 AM
I guess I wasn't aware of the conditions in the SE Charles.  Having dry conditions in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico & Arizona should not come as a surprise to anyone, but the SE?  Especially a state like Florida surrounded by water on 3 sides.  That is one bizarre looking map.

The water pipeline is an interesting idea, but regardless if it is via that mode or pulled from river systems...other states are usually pretty jealous of their water rights.  (Remember all the SW states still wrangling over the Colorado?)  And getting the Fed's to sign off on plans?  Ufda!  Especially this Regime packed full of commies & eco-terrorists?  Forget about it!
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 03, 2011, 09:16:56 AM

For sure. 

Future reference though, it seems that oscillation thing causes one area or the other to have excess.
Sharing is good for the soul.  ::angel::

Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 09:24:59 AM
I sure would like to share my rain away!
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 09:52:06 AM
I guess I wasn't aware of the conditions in the SE Charles.  Having dry conditions in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico & Arizona should not come as a surprise to anyone, but the SE?  Especially a state like Florida surrounded by water on 3 sides.  That is one bizarre looking map.

The water pipeline is an interesting idea, but regardless if it is via that mode or pulled from river systems...other states are usually pretty jealous of their water rights.  (Remember all the SW states still wrangling over the Colorado?)  And getting the Fed's to sign off on plans?  Ufda!  Especially this Regime packed full of commies & eco-terrorists?  Forget about it!

 Florida is no more than a big sand bar rain just washes through the top layer and that that. If the rainy season doesn't dump into the lakes it's just gone. Take ant place along the shoreline and if you get dry weather with all the irrigation that goes on and it has to because of all the farming and lawns none of which would survive with out regular watering what happens is the ocean starts to come in and render the wells useless because of salt content.


The center of the state would be a desert if it wasn't for irrigation and those are three foot pipes hooked to those pumps and there are out there by the thousands.


 In my case because of restrictions on watering I'm down to twice a week.But when the pump fires up it's on for 5 1/2 hours to the tune of =/-1250/1400 gallons of water and that's just me.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 11:34:36 AM
We all have a regional issues I guess...

But watering bans sure seem universal!

 :P
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Pandora on August 03, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
I guess I wasn't aware of the conditions in the SE Charles.  Having dry conditions in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico & Arizona should not come as a surprise to anyone, but the SE?  Especially a state like Florida surrounded by water on 3 sides.  That is one bizarre looking map.

The water pipeline is an interesting idea, but regardless if it is via that mode or pulled from river systems...other states are usually pretty jealous of their water rights.  (Remember all the SW states still wrangling over the Colorado?)  And getting the Fed's to sign off on plans?  Ufda!  Especially this Regime packed full of commies & eco-terrorists?  Forget about it!

 Florida is no more than a big sand bar rain just washes through the top layer and that that. If the rainy season doesn't dump into the lakes it's just gone. Take ant place along the shoreline and if you get dry weather with all the irrigation that goes on and it has to because of all the farming and lawns none of which would survive with out regular watering what happens is the ocean starts to come in and render the wells useless because of salt content.


The center of the state would be a desert if it wasn't for irrigation and those are three foot pipes hooked to those pumps and there are out there by the thousands.


 In my case because of restrictions on watering I'm down to twice a week.But when the pump fires up it's on for 5 1/2 hours to the tune of =/-1250/1400 gallons of water and that's just me.

Are watering out of your well?  They have restrictions on that too?
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Dagwood on August 03, 2011, 11:54:37 AM
Here in the Dallas area, the county I'm in is the only one on the map (here in the immediate Dallas area) that's still not considered drought-striken. Other counties not drought-stricken continue to the OK border and go east to AR, pretty much along the Red River. Other than that, it's either moderate or severe drought. So strange was our spring this year; we got the rain where many others did not. It's like my corner of the metroplex was the lucky bulls-eye. Yesterday, we hit 110. And it looks very much like we're on target to either sharing or breaking the summer heat wave of 1980 in terms of total and consecutive 100+ days...

Yes, I'll take the rain from MN any day...
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 03, 2011, 12:27:45 PM
Here in the Dallas area, the county I'm in is the only one on the map (here in the immediate Dallas area) that's still not considered drought-striken. Other counties not drought-stricken continue to the OK border and go east to AR, pretty much along the Red River. Other than that, it's either moderate or severe drought. So strange was our spring this year; we got the rain where many others did not. It's like my corner of the metroplex was the lucky bulls-eye. Yesterday, we hit 110. And it looks very much like we're on target to either sharing or breaking the summer heat wave of 1980 in terms of total and consecutive 100+ days...

Yes, I'll take the rain from MN any day...

We'd give it to you if we could. We just got pounded again the night before last. Usually July and August are pretty dry. I've never been able to forgo watering the lawn in over 20 years of home ownership. I haven't watered once yet this year, and my lawn is green and plush as if it were early June. And it's been hotter than snot here too. It's not as if we're getting Spring weather in Summer. We're getting Spring rain in an unusually hot Summer.

As a tangent, expect this sweltering Summer to be hailed as concrete evidence of Global Climate Change™ - even though last Winter all around the world was a brutally cold and unforgiving as this Summer is hot.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Dan on August 03, 2011, 02:38:06 PM
Hey, JF, can cisterns be used in regions subject to frost?
A well is on my list, and we have 220 gals of rain barrels on hand, but not in the winter. I'll keep 'em inside this winter and treat for storage, rotate if need be, but a cistern seems like time and money well-spent.

And the tunnels may hafta' wait till after the big to-do and responsible people are in charge.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 03:35:05 PM
Hey, JF, can cisterns be used in regions subject to frost?
A well is on my list, and we have 220 gals of rain barrels on hand, but not in the winter. I'll keep 'em inside this winter and treat for storage, rotate if need be, but a cistern seems like time and money well-spent.

And the tunnels may hafta' wait till after the big to-do and responsible people are in charge.

 Bury it below the frost line.Temp 6/8 feet down stabilizes at about 55 degrees.

 But is you have a well and a power source(generator) the cistern would be a back up to that or use it to catch rainwater for irrigation and drinking if need be with the proper sanitation steps taken.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Libertas on August 04, 2011, 07:15:06 AM
Looks like Emily might be veering off into the Atlantic, y'all might be off the hook.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0511W5_NL+gif/205513W5_NL_sm.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0511W5_NL+gif/205513W5_NL_sm.gif)
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: John Florida on August 04, 2011, 09:41:08 AM
Looks like Emily might be veering off into the Atlantic, y'all might be off the hook.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0511W5_NL+gif/205513W5_NL_sm.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0511W5_NL+gif/205513W5_NL_sm.gif)

 Were hoping for the rain and not the winds.We need the water.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Emily
Post by: Libertas on August 04, 2011, 11:45:28 AM
Looks like Emily might be veering off into the Atlantic, y'all might be off the hook.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0511W5_NL+gif/205513W5_NL_sm.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0511W5_NL+gif/205513W5_NL_sm.gif)

 Were hoping for the rain and not the winds.We need the water.

 ::thumbsup::

 ::praying::