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Topics => Economy => Topic started by: Libertas on August 11, 2011, 11:46:02 AM

Title: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Libertas on August 11, 2011, 11:46:02 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/10/carney_unemployment_benefits_could_create_up_to_1_million_jobs.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/10/carney_unemployment_benefits_could_create_up_to_1_million_jobs.html)

OK dipsh*t, cut $1m checks to every American of working age, we ought to add millions of new jobs and really send this economy in orbit!

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What a freaking moron!

People

Individuals

Entrepreneurs

The productive class

These people create jobs! 

The Big Government your boss is pushing down on us is destroying jobs and punishing the productive, you asshat!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Predator Don on August 11, 2011, 12:07:17 PM
He must have spoke to pelosi before his press conference.

Layghter should have broke out in the room.
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Libertas on August 11, 2011, 01:15:52 PM
Or as Al (Race-baiter) Sharpton would say...

Laughter, we much!
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Glock32 on August 11, 2011, 04:20:27 PM
Unemployment benefits creating jobs is about like getting power to the other 5 outlets by plugging a surge protector into itself.
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Pandora on August 11, 2011, 04:27:24 PM
It's like a closed-circuit water fountain with a leak.
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Glock32 on August 11, 2011, 04:35:53 PM
It seems completely lost on them that their argument, i.e. that people spend the benefit money on consumer items thereby stimulating the economy, could just as easily apply to people paying the taxes. IOW, let people keep their own money and they too will spend it on consumer items.

But, as we have noted often, being a liberal means never having to worry about contradictions or consistency. It's all about enlisting whatever position helps the march of leftism at a particular time and place.
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Pandora on August 11, 2011, 04:43:00 PM
It seems completely lost on them that their argument, i.e. that people spend the benefit money on consumer items thereby stimulating the economy, could just as easily apply to people paying the taxes. IOW, let people keep their own money and they too will spend it on consumer items.

And without the government getting their skim.  Ya have to wonder how they miss that.

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But, as we have noted often, being a liberal means never having to worry about contradictions or consistency. It's all about enlisting whatever position helps the march of leftism at a particular time and place.

*sigh*
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Pandora on August 11, 2011, 04:48:40 PM
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Carney answers the question: "It is one of the most direct ways to infuse money directly into the economy because people who are unemployed and obviously aren't running a paycheck are going to spend the money that they get. They're not going to save it, they're going to spend it. And with unemployment insurance, that way, the money goes directly back into the economy, dollar for dollar virtually."

"Every place that, that money is spent has added business and that creates growth and income for businesses that leads them to decisions about jobs, more hiring. So, there are few other ways that can directly put money into the economy than applying unemployment insurance, Carney said.

Carney says President Obama is pushing for unemployment benefits to be extended "as we continue to emerge from this recession."

Carney also says this is only one item of a "variety of things to grow the economy and create jobs."

Yep, there it is; every dollar goes right back into the economy, dollar for dollar.

None of that is subtracted from receipts for gummint employees and handling; no sir.  Every dollar recycled right back into the economy.

I'm being driven mad.
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Glock32 on August 11, 2011, 05:04:22 PM
Which hits on another assumption of theirs that infuriates me: this idea that people and businesses who "hoard" their money are somehow denying the greater economy the stimulating influence of that hoarded money. Where do they think this money is? Stuffed in a mattress somewhere? Sure, you can "hoard" money in an investment or even a bank account, but the idea that it's economically neutral is ridiculous. Investments drive economic activity somewhere else, your deposits at the bank allow them to loan money to someone expanding their business, etc, etc. This is why I get beyond irritated when the Republicans go to lengths to maintain this illusion of comity and peerage with the Dumbocrats. These people are economic morons, why should we pretend their ideas are at all valid and useful to the conversation?

Again though, it's not about actual results. If it were about revenue, they would slash taxes because it's been proven time and again that when taxes go down, the government ends up getting more revenue in absolute terms. The"hoarding" argument is no different -- it's not about the actual economic consequence, it's about setting the narrative, the pretext, for confiscation of "hoarded" wealth.
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 11, 2011, 05:57:58 PM
Or as Al (Race-baiter) Sharpton would say...

Laughter, we much!

I noticed that he was starting to bear a resemblance to a Bloated Yoda... ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: John Florida on August 11, 2011, 06:39:53 PM
  He's got to feel like a total ass making statements like that out loud. ::speechless::
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: Pandora on August 11, 2011, 07:14:41 PM
  He's got to feel like a total ass making statements like that out loud. ::speechless::

Who does?  Carney or Sharpton?
Title: Re: WH Press Gal Carney - Unemployment Benefits Create Jobs!
Post by: John Florida on August 11, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
  He's got to feel like a total ass making statements like that out loud. ::speechless::

Who does?  Carney or Sharpton?

 ::rimshot::