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Topics => 2nd Amendment/Firearms => Topic started by: Weisshaupt on October 16, 2012, 01:53:59 PM

Title: Gun Porn
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 16, 2012, 01:53:59 PM
Don't sell those gun magazines to underage kids.. (http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/shooting-magazines-sale-14s/story-17088590-detail/story.html)

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Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: Pandora on October 16, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
Nanny and Daddy states, all over the world. 
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: Glock32 on October 16, 2012, 03:32:50 PM
I came here expecting a pictures thread!  I need to take some snaps of my latest acquisition, a Beretta Px4 Storm.  Beretta does make a very handsome pistol.

As for this story, I'm honestly sort of surprised they even have shooting publications over there anymore.  It's depressing to see what has become of Britain.  I recall a similar story about some Australian olympic athletes getting into trouble over some pictures they posted of their trip to a shooting range in the USA.
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 16, 2012, 04:35:18 PM
 
::outrage::
                 Where are the guns?
                                              Where are the naked guns?
                                                                                             ::outrage::


Edit: Had to look - http://www.great-lakes.org/reviews/review-03-06-06.html#Beretta_Px4_Storm,_a_revolutionary_handgun_ (http://www.great-lakes.org/reviews/review-03-06-06.html#Beretta_Px4_Storm,_a_revolutionary_handgun_)

Nice.
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2012, 07:53:37 PM
Yeah, what a teaser thread title.   ::facepalm::

What flavor did you get G?
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: Glock32 on October 17, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Yeah, what a teaser thread title.   ::facepalm::

What flavor did you get G?

I got the 9mm version.  I really like it.  It's probably the softest shooting pistol I've fired.  It has a rotary locking barrel rather than the more typical tilting barrel lockup, and supposedly that rotation offsets some of the torque from the bullet spinning down the barrel.  Real pleased with it.
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: John Florida on October 17, 2012, 06:08:45 PM
Yeah, what a teaser thread title.   ::facepalm::

What flavor did you get G?

I got the 9mm version.  I really like it.  It's probably the softest shooting pistol I've fired.  It has a rotary locking barrel rather than the more typical tilting barrel lockup, and supposedly that rotation offsets some of the torque from the bullet spinning down the barrel.  Real pleased with it.

 I love my PX4 storm I have got to be up around the one thousand round mark and not a problem be be seen,I got a .40

 Next I'm starting to look at either an AK or AR and an M4. Just in the looking stages.
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2012, 06:52:07 PM
Yeah, what a teaser thread title.   ::facepalm::

What flavor did you get G?

I got the 9mm version.  I really like it.  It's probably the softest shooting pistol I've fired.  It has a rotary locking barrel rather than the more typical tilting barrel lockup, and supposedly that rotation offsets some of the torque from the bullet spinning down the barrel.  Real pleased with it.

Cool, so far I've heard nothing but good things about them.  Wonder how that CX line is doing for them.  It is attractive to have weapons that fire the same rounds, just not sure performance wise how those rounds do in a longer barrel vs standard calibers in the AR line.  But Beretta makes good stuff, and I think a lot SEALs still like their nine's with the threaded barrels.
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: John Florida on October 17, 2012, 06:54:13 PM
  Anybody have any idea how long barrels last?
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2012, 07:41:06 PM
Gunsmith should be able to provide the definitive answer to that.  My logical brain calls up basic physics.  I would think it is a function of energy, mass and velocity, the higher the caliber and the greater the grain and charge, the more heat and wear.  A lot of AR's have chrome-lined barrels to resist heat and corrosion.  I think it is also why AR's that come in 5.56 are popular since you can shoot less expensive .223 rounds through them and the latter IIRC do not expand as much as the 5.56 when fired so the wear should be less when plinking.
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: Glock32 on October 17, 2012, 08:32:32 PM
Properly taken care of, a barrel will easily last many thousands of rounds. Given the low velocities, a pistol barrel will probably never wear out, especially a chrome lined one like the Storm has. The gun writer Chuck Taylor supposedly has a Glock 17 with over 300,000 rounds documented through it.  Anyhow at the thousand round mark your Beretta is still just a baby :)

I've not heard of barrel wear really becoming a problem except in high velocity varmint and target rifles. Some of those can push bullets over 4,000 fps. To get that sort of velocity you're usually looking at a fat case necked down to a much smaller bullet. It's an arrangement called overbore and can cause erosion in the first section of the barrel due to such a comparatively large amount of burning powder in a small caliber bore. But most of those guys are serious rifle shooters who expect to wear out barrels anyway.

I think if we actually made a point of trying, we would wear out before the gun would.
Title: Re: Gun Porn
Post by: John Florida on October 17, 2012, 09:03:38 PM
Properly taken care of, a barrel will easily last many thousands of rounds. Given the low velocities, a pistol barrel will probably never wear out, especially a chrome lined one like the Storm has. The gun writer Chuck Taylor supposedly has a Glock 17 with over 300,000 rounds documented through it.  Anyhow at the thousand round mark your Beretta is still just a baby :)

I've not heard of barrel wear really becoming a problem except in high velocity varmint and target rifles. Some of those can push bullets over 4,000 fps. To get that sort of velocity you're usually looking at a fat case necked down to a much smaller bullet. It's an arrangement called overbore and can cause erosion in the first section of the barrel due to such a comparatively large amount of burning powder in a small caliber bore. But most of those guys are serious rifle shooters who expect to wear out barrels anyway.

I think if we actually made a point of trying, we would wear out before the gun would.

 Thanks!!