It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => 2nd Amendment/Firearms => Topic started by: John Florida on December 12, 2012, 09:10:26 AM
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The Truth About Wolf Ammo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ZB3UfG960#ws)
Any opinions?
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One of the ranges I go to won't even let you shoot Wolf. They don't advertise why, but I've always assumed it was just because they collect left-behind brass, and don't want to have to sort out the steel casings.
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Agreed, I too think it is the non-brass casings. They don't like Blazer rounds either.
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It's usually that or their belief in 3rd-hand information about it destroying range backstops (it won't). Some outdoor ranges in dry areas may have a good reason to prohibit ammo with steel in the jacket, since it can spark when it hits rocks and such. Even that is probably exaggerated. I recall the anti-gun forces tried to blame some forest fires this summer on recreational shooters.
I shoot Wolf in Eastern Bloc firearms, and it works fine. Generally among the cheap Russian fodder, I think Barnaul (the various Bear brands) and Vympel (Golden Tiger) are better. I don't shoot it in any Western firearms. I don't think it would be a problem, it just feels too much like putting 87 octane price club gas in a Ferrari.
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My Kimber will shoot anything just fine. Some of the other 1911s -- Springfield -- don't like the steel casings.
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What happens with the Springfield? Extraction problems?
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What happens with the Springfield? Extraction problems?
Jams. Won't fire. I hate jams ... clearing them makes me anxious.
Otherwise, the Springfield is just fine with brass.
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Yeah, I just stick with brass in the more refined Western guns. One of the main issues with steel cases is that they lack the elastic properties of brass, so after firing they don't spring back to size like brass. That can cause extraction issues in some guns, where the steel case is still tight against the chamber wall.
As for the AKs, they've never eaten anything but steel case stuff. I also like the lacquered primers and case mouths for long term storage.
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Yeah, I just stick with brass in the more refined Western guns. One of the main issues with steel cases is that they lack the elastic properties of brass, so after firing they don't spring back to size like brass. That can cause extraction issues in some guns, where the steel case is still tight against the chamber wall.
As for the AKs, they've never eaten anything but steel case stuff. I also like the lacquered primers and case mouths for long term storage.
I'm not clear on what you mean by "more refined Western guns".
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i.e. without the sloppy tolerances and machining often seen on the Eastern bloc guns.
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I read an article where my PX4 storm didn't like it so I never bought it.
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If I have an opportunity this weekend, I will chronograph Wolf vs. Brown Bear vs. Golden Tiger. I have heard that Wolf consistently comes in underpowered and less consistent.
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I just bought a Ruger Mini-14 and the salesman said that it would eat any ammo with out a hiccup. I asked specifically about Wolf ammo and he said his mini-14 has devoured more than 2000 rounds without as much as a burp.
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It sounds like several of you have had an early Christmas. Congrats to all on your acquisitions!
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Waa. I'm jealous.
Not really. I have all I can use, need or want.
I had a friend lecture me on Saturday evening about my lack of desire for a more powerful rifle than my beloved M1 Carbine.
Fellas, I can't MANAGE a bigger rifle without a gun rest (okay, yeah; my biceps could use some work), so, by necessity, utility and accuracy, it's my go-to gun. And because we (me and my M1) love each other, I'm betting I can do more damage with it than dealing with the prerequisite conditions for handling a bigger, more powerful rifle.
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Plenty of Nazis and Imperial Japs became worm food courtesy of the humble M1 Carbine. Plus it has unique ties to North Carolina. They are interesting rifles. I've never fired one, but ballistically it's similar to a .357 Magnum.
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Plenty of Nazis and Imperial Japs became worm food courtesy of the humble M1 Carbine. Plus it has unique ties to North Carolina. They are interesting rifles. I've never fired one, but ballistically it's similar to a .357 Magnum.
Gunsmith and I have one each. (I had mine first, nyah, nyah). Get yer ass out here someday soon and we'll fix that "never fired one" and you'll see. Sweeeeet.
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Aren't we all supposed to move to eastern Tennessee? Still gets my vote! Out of curiosity, which factory made your M1s? They were made by the most unlikely factories. It's all very interesting stuff.
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Aren't we all supposed to move to eastern Tennessee? Still gets my vote! Out of curiosity, which factory made your M1s? They were made by the most unlikely factories. It's all very interesting stuff.
All? Did I miss you casting your vote?
I dunno where we're going. We're looking at TN and at OK. Whereverthehell we end up, you're welcome.
I don't know which factory, Glock. I can look at it and see.
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I tried that stuff with my AR and had extraction problems every time. After three or four rounds I gave up. I haven't tried it in my mini-14 yet but I'm guessing that it will handle them better.
And, no, I didn't buy the stuff. I inherited about a 1000 rounds from my brother-in-law when he passed away a couple of years back.
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Aren't we all supposed to move to eastern Tennessee? Still gets my vote! Out of curiosity, which factory made your M1s? They were made by the most unlikely factories. It's all very interesting stuff.
Yeah it wasn't just Springfield, weapons were being made by Singer Sewing Machine Co and outfits like that during the war, we had a manufacturing base to use back then.
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Yep. Supposedly the most highly sought after ones were made by the Rock-O-La jukebox company. IBM's typewriter machinery was repurposed to make them as well.
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Rock-O-La would look pretty cool stamped in gun metal. ::thumbsup::
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::thumbsup::
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Yep. Supposedly the most highly sought after ones were made by the Rock-O-La jukebox company. IBM's typewriter machinery was repurposed to make them as well.
I have a friend who works for IBM and he has 3 IBM manufactured M-1's.
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Yeah, I would imagine having an IBM and a Rock-O-La in your collection would be a plum.