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Topics => Military News/Veterans => Topic started by: Libertas on January 22, 2013, 11:54:47 AM
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Obama reconfiguring military in order to issue Order 66 (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/hmm-report-obama-only-wants-military-leaders-who-will-fire-on-u-s-citizens/)
Y'all know me well enough to know what I am thinking now is, well, y'all know what I'm thinking because you're thinking it too...
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I cannot figure out Jim Hoft. Too often, he overstates or misstates the case, particularly in his headlines; this time he downplays with this:
"Hmm… It’s a stretch to believe Obama would want to fire on all US citizens. But, if Garrow is just talking about Republicans he might be on to something."
If it gets to the point where the military is firing on us, Obama and his merry band of thugs won't be targeting just Republicans once the EBT cards stop working; he'll need to *start* in the inner cities.
Oh, and yeah, tell me something I didn't know -- that the true patriots were being purged out of the military. 'S okay, better they're out here with us.
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It won't be the first time. The only thing necessary is for them to believe the orders are valid.
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That whole oath to the Constitution thing will be barely even a speed bump, because the Constitution will mean whatever the leadership says it means.
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And while I well understand that some "sources" don't want to out themselves (doing so also puts insider info availability at risk), I want names.
::foilhathelicopter:: is getting redundant and is not helpful.
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Yeah, this may be an infowars -drum of the site traffic post. I don't want to be bothered with hear-say. If you heard or saw it yourself I will listen. but without names , this post is pretty much the run of the mill for infowars and has been for years- way before Obama.
Our biggest advantage is liberals have huge and predictable blindspots. They think that if they control military leadership, they control the military. Its that whole "we can control and engineer the world" arrogance. When things don't work in the real world, I think they are always genuinely surprised, and start looking for outside actors, to blame it upon. Dang wreckers! MAYBE the ones at the very top pulling Obama's strings know better, but I wouldn't say it was a given. The true believers like Obama- they never catch on. I suspect 1/2 of the military will follow orders, and the other half will leave or try to, and with as much gear as they can carry.
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Yeah, this may be an infowars -drum of the site traffic post. I don't want to be bothered with hear-say. If you heard or saw it yourself I will listen. but without names , this post is pretty much the run of the mill for infowars and has been for years- way before Obama.
Our biggest advantage is liberals have huge and predictable blindspots. They think that if they control military leadership, they control the military. Its that whole "we can control and engineer the world" arrogance. When things don't work in the real world, I think they are always genuinely surprised, and start looking for outside actors, to blame it upon. Dang wreckers! MAYBE the ones at the very top pulling Obama's strings know better, but I wouldn't say it was a given. The true believers like Obama- they never catch on. I suspect 1/2 of the military will follow orders, and the other half will leave or try to, and with as much gear as they can carry.
Having the gear would be good, but I'd rather have them out before push comes to shove. There will always be the temptation to comply if it means feeding and housing one's family.
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This Link (http://militarytimes.com/projects/air/health-welfare-findings) says volumes.
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This Link (http://militarytimes.com/projects/air/health-welfare-findings) says volumes.
Yah, all bad.
Removed "nose art"? It's the freakin' AIR FORCE, ya stupid asses!
Have no idea what "doofer" is; looked it up, no definitive answer.
They're so worried about "sexual assault"? What did they think would come of mixing women in with men and then not permitting them to BE men?
None of this has to do with health/welfare; it's 'there will be no representation of that which we do not permit you to see/hear/THINK'.
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In one or two generations I can see "all military" families.
A child will be born either a private or Lieutenant; it would be necessary to opt out in order to be a civilian.
And by that time why would he want to, we will be reliving the time of the Caesars.
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About the "Doofer Books":
After the stories, the Doofer Book came out. The squadron “Doofer Book” is another fighter pilot ritual (which has spread to other services and career fields in one form or another). It is generally a running compilation of the missteps of the various members of the squadron that may be updated daily, or at weekly or monthly meetings. While entertaining as a day-to-day squadron chronicle, they are most interesting when kept during deployments—they serve as a unique collection of history (and often humor) for a unit. There was also a scrap book of photos from the many picnics and Christmas parties they had over the years. Some photos were from the flight line, but most of the content was candid shots of people in everyday situations.
http://photorecon.net/usaf-aggressors-40th-reunion (http://photorecon.net/usaf-aggressors-40th-reunion)
I had never heard of them either...
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Holy Crap, back in my day...well, they never went to these extremes, I guess this is all part of the New Praetorian Plan.
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And while I well understand that some "sources" don't want to out themselves (doing so also puts insider info availability at risk), I want names.
::foilhathelicopter:: is getting redundant and is not helpful.
Exactly. If you have credible knowledge that such things are occurring, it needs to be revealed openly. Remaining anonymous isn't really helping anything. For one thing it only casts doubt on the assertion, making it easier for the claim to be discredited, which in turn has a chilling effect on anyone else who might want to come forward with evidence of their own.
There is a time and a place for anonymity. There is also a time and a place for "My name is so-and-so, I hold the rank of Whatever, and this is what they are doing". I don't doubt for a minute that they employ litmus tests for political reliability, I am just skeptical that they're already that overt about it coming down to the question of firing on American civilians. If it's a wide ranging litmus test, wouldn't there be other officers who "failed" the test?
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A singleton may easily be demonized.
More than one must come forward at the same time.
It must be a group of heretofore solid professionals.
Then it will be their turn to wrangle cats.
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Yeah there won't be any faces put to accusations unless there is more cover. Is anybody else of authority stepping up? Anybody in Congress? Anybody willing to come forth with evidence of any kind? Perhaps the alarm is preceding the actual act, and these warnings are meant to delay their imposition? We are speculating too much, but such are our times, but we cannot afford to miss any warnings.
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You got to read this (http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/citizens.asp).
Is SNOPES on the Obama payroll?
Follow the link at the bottom to see what they say about the Sandy Hook fiasco.
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You got to read this (http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/citizens.asp).
Is SNOPES on the Obama payroll?
Follow the link at the bottom to see what they say about the Sandy Hook fiasco.
Anything that didn't add up with the final story - that was "misreported" - you see that way the final narrative the media works out on Journalist always wins.
And Obama, he is perfect. You would have to be a loon to think he was purging top brass military and making sure they would obey orders to shoot Americans. Those preggo targets, in city training, and ammunition purchases are incidental. The fact that they have arelady tried to give illegal American Soldiers in Katrina and various training missions, is just not relevant.
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Yeah, Snopes like Wiki, you have to take with a grain of salt, anything politically oriented you are better off going somewhere else.
No probably about it! ;)
(Like how those asshats say the military purging is "probably" false! Yeah, and Hitler was "probably" not a bad guy, ya know?!) ::) ::mooning::
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I mean its not like a lot of Generals have been forced to retire recently or anything. (http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/022013-645024-john-allen-is-fourth-general-to-retire-from-command-nato.htm)
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If these generals are truly being let go for the sake of the Leftist political agenda, and these generals are the patriots the country likes to believe they are, then one would think it is incumbent upon every one of them to speak out.
F**k protocol. F**k "Commander in Chief". The country needs men to stand and be counted, now.
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Yeah, that bothers me too IDP, I just don't get it...it's not like the asshole can do anymore to them after they've been sacked...
I just don't get it...
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Yeah, that bothers me too IDP, I just don't get it...it's not like the asshole can do anymore to them after they've been sacked...
I just don't get it...
Mysterious accidents have occurred, threatening ones family is another possibility.
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As we've all heard a million times, all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
I think part of our overall problem with the crisis of confidence in the West can be generally tied into the waning influence of religion, and particularly the religion of the West, Christianity. By that I mean, if the culture has reoriented itself to a materialist, atheistic view of human existence then that means everything that is, was, or will be can be accessed by human senses and intellect alone. This is my convoluted way of suggesting that the moral cowardice we are witnessing is ultimately because modern Westerners are less willing to lay down their lives, and are governed more by individual cravenness because this right here is all there is. There's no hereafter or greater spiritual purpose, we're just sacks of organic molecules on a big rock circling a star called Sol, right? Sacrifice for a deep spiritual ideal, why that's just a fool's prize. That is the prevailing ethos of the modern West. I think it is disastrously wrongheaded, but that is another debate.
Now obviously I'm not suggesting that life is anything but precious, and it should be guarded and held sacrosanct. But I think past generations were more willing to expose themselves to personal risk in defense of what they knew was righteous, and a big part of that is because they had religion. I can't think of the author right off hand, but there's a quote along the lines of "Death is a bad thing, but it is not the worst of things. Far worse is to live in an existence where there is nothing worth dying for".
I think this partly explains what IDP asks, about why these men are not standing to be counted if indeed they know what is going on. They don't consider it worth the personal risk.
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I mean its not like a lot of Generals have been forced to retire recently or anything. (http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/022013-645024-john-allen-is-fourth-general-to-retire-from-command-nato.htm)
IBD should have included:
The Navy on Monday dismissed two commanders (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7230.msg83969.html#msg83969) and AFRICOM Commander Replaced Oct. 18. WHY? (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7066.msg81154.html#msg81154)
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Heroes and true patriots are coming up short.
Last days of Rome and all. . .
I think G's point is quite valid, part of what doomed Rome was their loss of morals, once man becomes omnipotent and no longer needs a higher power, any manner of evil will occur.
Same shyt, different epoch, same tragic result.