Topic: Last straw for NATO to exist?

[patentlymn]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-approves-heavy-weapon-sales-newest-nato-applicant

Gonna suck us dry...

I think selling US arms is one reason for expanding NATO. I saw some numbers for what percent of arms in some NATO countries were from US. Some were over 80 or even 90%.

[Libertas]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-approves-heavy-weapon-sales-newest-nato-applicant

Gonna suck us dry...

I think selling US arms is one reason for expanding NATO. I saw some numbers for what percent of arms in some NATO countries were from US. Some were over 80 or even 90%.

It is after all about the only way to recoup some of the 90% load the US bears by carrying these louts...

In other news, see this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/erdogan-rival-handed-nearly-3-years-prison-insulting-election-authority

And remember...the Euro's have been dragging Uke membership over "corruption" concerns...let that sink in...the Euro's and their Brussels Bullies threatening Eastern member states...suiciding itself with ESG bullcrap and forcing their people to freeze and starve to retain a foothold in another corrupt nation...while NATO ally Turkey run by a longtime dictator (popularly elected Putin-style as opposition has been outlawed...not much different than the CCP et al) supposedly is corruption free?

Seems to me if these people were honest, ethical and consistent they would either immediately and fully admit Ukraine into NATO...or boot Turkey from NATO...

 

[Libertas]

According to another biased post by AntiWar (ha!) making extensive use of Russian State Media seems to indicate Russia wants Syria cleared of all other players...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-brokered-turkey-deal-are-foreign-forces-their-way-out-syria

...and I do not believe for one second Mad King Erdogan has given up his lust to exterminate Kurds form the Earth...but I do believe Russia wants less cover for the Americans...and at the end of whatever sh*tshow is planned here...I expect the Mad King will return to finish its genocide.  And I am guessing the pillow-biters at AntiWar will be OK with that...as will the Rus.

[patentlymn]

According to another biased post by AntiWar (ha!) making extensive use of Russian State Media seems to indicate Russia wants Syria cleared of all other players...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-brokered-turkey-deal-are-foreign-forces-their-way-out-syria

...and I do not believe for one second Mad King Erdogan has given up his lust to exterminate Kurds form the Earth...but I do believe Russia wants less cover for the Americans...and at the end of whatever sh*tshow is planned here...I expect the Mad King will return to finish its genocide.  And I am guessing the pillow-biters at AntiWar will be OK with that...as will the Rus.

Can you summarize? Who would be left in Syria? What is the change?

[Libertas]

According to another biased post by AntiWar (ha!) making extensive use of Russian State Media seems to indicate Russia wants Syria cleared of all other players...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-brokered-turkey-deal-are-foreign-forces-their-way-out-syria

...and I do not believe for one second Mad King Erdogan has given up his lust to exterminate Kurds form the Earth...but I do believe Russia wants less cover for the Americans...and at the end of whatever sh*tshow is planned here...I expect the Mad King will return to finish its genocide.  And I am guessing the pillow-biters at AntiWar will be OK with that...as will the Rus.

Can you summarize? Who would be left in Syria? What is the change?

It means there would be primarily Syrians, Russians, Americans and whatever/whoever's jihadis...Kurds would be unmolested and not likely engaging anybody with Turks gone...

To me it seems the Russians want to see how exposed the Americans are...

[patentlymn]

I will never pretend to understand Erdogan.

[patentlymn]

 How does the US get the Syrian oil out of the country? Does that involve the US?

[patentlymn]

This guy gives his view of Syria and Turkey. Kurds get a lot of money from occupied Syrian oil fields and ag land thanks to Americans.

Syria asks for help. Russia says if Turkey normalizes things with Syrians and withdraws  then Syria will attack Kurds.
So what will the Americans respond?  Maybe Syrian refugees return from Turkey to Syria?


https://youtu.be/3lilMAimfEw
TG 979: Geopolitical Shift As Turkey and Syria Move To Normalize Relations
The Ceaser act penalizes any country that helps Syria?

Also 3 years ago.
https://youtu.be/-CSeXtdZAO4
 Did We Abandon The Kurds?
Kim Iversen
505K subscribers
90K views  3 years ago

[Libertas]

I dunno...nice to see we are thusly accused...wish it was going here to relieve our misery...but no such luck...

In a digital age, how hard is it to document the act of taking it and transporting it?

 

As for other question...US will do nothing, watch Kurds be slaughtered...they've done it numerous times...

[patentlymn]

A couple years old.


Last I heard the US takes around 70-80% of Syrian oil.

[patentlymn]

https://youtu.be/YjkjteDPwSQ
Turkey, Syria coming together. Bolton fumes, wants Turkey out of NATO

[Libertas]

Burton, lol...

A maniac his ilk helped create and keep propped up...now he sings my song?

Unfortunately...his weight casts no power...

Thanks for nothing...

Still wanting to know the full papertrail of this Syrian oil...wherefore art thou?

[Libertas]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-bid-derailed-turkey-wants-what-we-cant-give-them

Should be a no-brainer...all you have to do is ask yourself "who would you rather have as an ally"?

Either way I am sure I will be disappointed...as we should be the ones exiting NATO...

[patentlymn]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-bid-derailed-turkey-wants-what-we-cant-give-them

Should be a no-brainer...all you have to do is ask yourself "who would you rather have as an ally"?

Either way I am sure I will be disappointed...as we should be the ones exiting NATO...

I recall the Duran joking about this long ago. Is this even new? Not criticizing the post, but Sweden getting all indignant now.

[Libertas]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedens-nato-bid-derailed-turkey-wants-what-we-cant-give-them

Should be a no-brainer...all you have to do is ask yourself "who would you rather have as an ally"?

Either way I am sure I will be disappointed...as we should be the ones exiting NATO...

I recall the Duran joking about this long ago. Is this even new? Not criticizing the post, but Sweden getting all indignant now.

No, not new, came up as soon as word got out an invitation to NATO was extended to Sweden & Finland, this latest reiteration from the Turks is likely after backroom discussions for months got nowhere...what is ironic or more like pathetic is the FJB regime and DeepState who like to use the Kurds when it suits them and abandon them also when it suits them if they had any balls should have told the Turk's "fine, we'll get them to agree for that if we also have the right to extradite your people conducting ethnic cleansing of Kurds...

But, as we all know they have to balls, brains, ethics or anything...

Frankly, I would tell the Turks to go screw themselves...

But everybody gets to be equally disappointed with all of these morons...

[Libertas]

See what happens when you don't tell the Turks to FO?!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/sweden-wont-meet-turkey-demands-win-its-vote-nato-membership

They want to be bribed.

[Libertas]

Turkey on Thursday summoned Sweden's ambassador to complain about issues related to the country's attempt at NATO ascension, at a moment Stockholm has lately admitted that Turkey is asking what it cannot give.

This latest example of Turkey's anger is perhaps among the most absurd examples of Turkish overreach regarding its demands that Sweden clamp down on dissident Kurdish groups, given it involves a mere tweet and a group exercising free speech.

The offending tweet by a Swedish-based activist group called Rojava Committee of Sweden is described by AFP as follows: "A tweet by the Rojava Committee of Sweden on Wednesday compared Erdogan to Italy's Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, who was hung upside down after his execution in the closing days of World War II."

And more provocatively the tweet included imagery of a dummy made to look like Erdogan swinging from a rope, continuing the Mussolini death comparisons. Apparently the group staged the "hanging" of the dummy on a street in Stockholm as part of a demonstration.

"History shows how dictators end up," the group wrote as part of the message. "It is time for Erdogan to resign. Take this chance and quit so that you don't end up hanging upside down on (Istanbul's) Taksim Square."



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-rages-sweden-summons-ambassador-over-kurdish-groups-tweet

 

I'm with the Kurds on this one...Erdogan is a murderous thug waging genocide against the Kurdish people.  Knock that sh*t off!

[Libertas]

Spoken like a true Muslim...and remembering that the myth of the moderate Muslim is just that, pure myth...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogan-tells-sweden-dont-expect-join-nato-after-quran-burning-incident

...it's like having Satan a member of Heaven...

...totally batshyt-effing-insane...

[patentlymn]

Erdogan is so predictable. He was going to torment the Swedes from day 1. This is no surprise.
I cannot recall the details but  Kim Iversen did a special on the Kurds. I think the US agreed to throw them under the bus long ago.  I like the Kurds but they are screwed.

[Libertas]

In this bat-crap stupid world...everybody is screwed...some only more so than some right now...but everybody is or will be soon completely porked!