Topic: Oh Noes! Fukushima Radiation!

[Weisshaupt]

Infowars has gone off the deep end on this one.. even suggesting  Conjoined Whales  may be related.
Is so bad, they are claiming its in the snow apparenlty put there by venting at the plant.

I personally think they are trying to sell Potassium Iodide pills and other shield products.  There are two realtime crowd sourced maps to keep your eye on, and owning a gieger counter of your own isn't a bad idea ( nor is having a supply of PI pills)  - but from what I can tell this situation doesn't warrant the panic infowars is surrounding it with. The videos may simply be taken in an area with higher radiation, or they brought in some radioactive rocks to help - or simply tampered with the counters so they can get their 15 minutes of fame in u-tube.

This first map has a high number of detectors - independantly owned and operated, and therefore not calibrated with each other - its like Weather underground for counts per minute.. and there is amix of detectors, with the "pancake" detectors being 3X more sensitive.. so divide or multiple by 3 to sync them with other detectors.  In Denver my non pancake detector would read 20 cpm, in the mountain location it would read closer to 35 ( altitude, big mountains with radioactive rocks all around)

There is a second, lower participation map to look at also

Bottom line, I don't see increased levels on either map. Not in snow. No where.  Or at least,  not enough that there is any cause for concern - at least no in the US
This article does a good job debunking the maps you may have seen... Japan is another matter, and I would be certain I understood where my Fish was caught before eating, but unless you are local to the disaster,  you are probably fine.

  That plume of cesium is very real, but  unless that plume is caught in some sort of current that is maintaining its concentration,  its being diluted. Greatly. Literally in an OCEAN OF WATER.  It is not enough radiation to kill an ocean ( and yes I have seen an artile asserting that as well) .  IN fact most of the radiation isn't going to propagate more than a few meters in water.  A fish would literally have to swim through a concentration and breathe it in.  Yes some particulates could get stuck I suppose, but the fish have a greater chance of getting cancer than they have of carrying a large amount of radiation to your plate. ( but if you ingest radio active particles, you are likely to get cancer as well, so yeah, no reason to play around with it)

We are awash in this stuff 24/7 - and your body has some natural ability to deal with it if it stays within limits. 



  If you live in Japan there is a LOT of cause for concern. You are probably in danger.  In the United States? This looks like infowars is trying to boost sales of its "shield" products.

[trapeze]

Infowars is not a site that I would ever quote as a source for a serious thread topic (although it is used for here as thread topic I understand that it is being ridiculed right from the get go so I'm not criticizing the thread author). I consider Infowars to be a sort of current events porn for Birchers. But that's me.

Drudge has used Infowars several times now for sensationalistic headlines (albeit minor headlines) on his site in recent months. It is "link bait" I suppose and I find it irritating.

[Weisshaupt]

Infowars is not a site that I would ever quote as a source for a serious thread topic (although it is used for here as thread topic I understand that it is being ridiculed right from the get go so I'm not criticizing the thread author). I consider Infowars to be a sort of current events porn for Birchers. But that's me.

Drudge has used Infowars several times now for sensationalistic headlines (albeit minor headlines) on his site in recent months. It is "link bait" I suppose and I find it irritating.

Yeah, I used to think the same.  Sadly, infowars had has at lot of stuff "first" - including the large govt ammo buys, the Snowden releases etc.. Usually days if not weeks before others will touch it.  Yes that means its unverified. Its also means I can't dismiss infowars as I used to, and I now page through to see whats there.   I don't believe out of hand anything I read there but I don't  dismiss it as mad ravings either. A lot of the time  the facts appear to be  correct even if the interpretation has been bent to fit Alex's preconceived notions. of the NWO etc.  This is one times where  the facts are way off and its getting picked up elsewhere.
 



 

[IronDioPriest]

IW is kind of like the National Enquirer for conservatives. They get just enough right - or what they get wrong is based on right facts enough of the time - to where you have to at least raise an eyebrow of curiosity when they come out with something that could be big.

BTW, right now, the National Enquirer is saying unequivocally that Barack and Zira are officially on the outs, with people having heard her screaming at him in the White House behind closed doors after the Mandela funeral.

[warpmine]

IW is kind of like the National Enquirer for conservatives. They get just enough right - or what they get wrong is based on right facts enough of the time - to where you have to at least raise an eyebrow of curiosity when they come out with something that could be big.

BTW, right now, the National Enquirer is saying unequivocally that Barack and Zira are officially on the outs, with people having heard her screaming at him in the White House behind closed doors after the Mandela funeral.

Looks like Tammy Bruce got it right years before anyone else.

[AlanS]

BTW, right now, the National Enquirer is saying unequivocally that Barack and Zira are officially on the outs, with people having heard her screaming at him in the White House behind closed doors after the Mandela funeral.

And you know this how?

[Pandora]

Zira?

[Libertas]

POTA reference!   

And Trap, if IW links give you pause, the last one in Weisshaupts post is from Deep Sea News, which looks like a decent site on balance.

[Weisshaupt]

Good Artivcle on Zerohedge concerning the difference between radiation and contamination and why you should be far more concerned with the latter.

All of my research and understanding of the risks of radiation at this point indicate that people living in the west coast of the US or in Hawaii are currently not in danger from the radiation released in the wake of the Fukushima tragedy.

While the background levels are elevated somewhat, those detected so far remain well within what I consider to be a safe zone.  However, should there be another accident at the damaged facility leading to the release of another large plume of radioactive matter, then this assessment could, understandably, change.

The exception to this assessment is for those living within a hundred kilometers of Fukushima. For those people, my analysis points to serious risks, especially for those living with a kilometer or two of the coast, extending 100 kilometers in either direction. The details behind my assessment are contained in the full report below. The intent of this report is to help readers understand the likely implications of the Fukushima situation with more clarity, as well as to provide a useful framework for identifying the risks posed by any future nuclear incidents and what your response to them should be.

The most important takeaway from this analysis should be this: Radiation, itself, is less a threat than most people imagine. But radioactive contamination is an entirely different and far more dangerous beast.

[Libertas]

I think we've got this somewhere else around here too, but, I'll put it here as well -



Now that that is established...where's all the FukuContamination at again? 

[Glock32]

There's also a phenomenon in metrology, or the science of measuring things, when dealing with very small magnitudes. With very small magnitudes, a slight change in the amount can shift it several orders of magnitude. This can be seized upon for sensationalism by people who don't know any better.

If something is concentrated at say 1 part in 10 million, that's such a small amount that the slightest increase could easily push it up to say 1 part per million.  OMG there's ten times the amount as before!

Infowars does have its place, but it has its place in the same way that the National Enquirer does for breaking cases like John Edwards.